Re: old Wheezy will not upgrade linux-kernel
On Tue, Jan 09, 2018 at 06:51:22AM +, Bonno Bloksma wrote: > I understand the difference between upgrade and dist-upgrade, but could not > find a reason for needing dist-upgrade A new package is being installed.
RE: old Wheezy will not upgrade linux-kernel
Hello Roberto, >> After apt-get update I do an upgrade and it seems the kernel package >> will not install but is held back [] >> # apt-get upgrade -V The following packages have been kept back: >>linux-image-686-pae (3.2+46 => 3.2+46+deb7u1) [] I understand the difference between upgrade and dist-upgrade, but could not find a reason for needing dist-upgrade > The reason that you are encountering this issue is because the changes to the > kernel necessitated an ABI change. > The Linux kernel package name includes the ABI version to allow you to have > multiple versions of the same > kernel with different ABIs. > Plus, it makes it easy to boot back into the previous version with any custom > built modules (e.g., through > DKMS) that may not work or be built for the new kernel ABI. Ok, so it is not a dependency in the kernel module itself but more everything else that is dependent on it. Ok now I understand the reason for dist-upgrade. In my mind I could find anything the kernel was dependent on so why would it be held back due to a dependency issue Bonno Bloksma
Re: old Wheezy will not upgrade linux-kernel
On Mon, Jan 08, 2018 at 06:38:16AM +, Bonno Bloksma wrote: > Hi, > > Running al old wheezy system that is up-2-date on patches but > > I am running the v3.2.x kernel > # uname -a > Linux linbobo 3.2.0-4-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 3.2.96-2 i686 GNU/Linux > > After apt-get update I do an upgrade and it seems the kernel package will not > install but is held back > [] > # apt-get upgrade -V > The following packages have been kept back: >linux-image-686-pae (3.2+46 => 3.2+46+deb7u1) > >From apt-get(1): upgrade upgrade is used to install the newest versions of all packages currently installed on the system from the sources enumerated in /etc/apt/sources.list. Packages currently installed with new versions available are retrieved and upgraded; under no circumstances are currently installed packages removed, or packages not already installed retrieved and installed. New versions of currently installed packages that cannot be upgraded without changing the install status of another package will be left at their current version. An update must be performed first so that apt-get knows that new versions of packages are available. > Doing a manual install it seems the v3.2.0-4 kernel needs to be upgraded to a > v3.2.0.-5 kernel. > > # apt-get install linux-image-686-pae > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree > Reading state information... Done > The following extra packages will be installed: > linux-image-3.2.0-5-686-pae > Suggested packages: > linux-doc-3.2 debian-kernel-handbook > The following NEW packages will be installed: > linux-image-3.2.0-5-686-pae > The following packages will be upgraded: > linux-image-686-pae > 1 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 6 not upgraded. > Need to get 23.0 MB of archives. > After this operation, 80.0 MB of additional disk space will be used. > Do you want to continue [Y/n]? > > Should that then not simply be a upgrade? > Is there any reason not to just simply do the apt-get install ? > > I have this "problem" on at least 2 Wheezy machines. One I cannot upgrade to > Lenny. Which is the reason I have at least one other (not critical) machine > also at Wheezy so I can compare and test. > The reason that you are encountering this issue is because the changes to the kernel necessitated an ABI change. The Linux kernel package name includes the ABI version to allow you to have multiple versions of the same kernel with different ABIs. Plus, it makes it easy to boot back into the previous version with any custom built modules (e.g., through DKMS) that may not work or be built for the new kernel ABI. I recommend that you use dist-upgrade (which will pull in new packages) or use the install command as you found that also works. Regards, -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sánchez
Re: old Wheezy will not upgrade linux-kernel
On Mon, Jan 08, 2018 at 06:38:16AM +, Bonno Bloksma wrote: > The following NEW packages will be installed: > linux-image-3.2.0-5-686-pae > The following packages will be upgraded: > linux-image-686-pae > Should that then not simply be a upgrade? When a new package is required to fulfill a dependency, you have to use "dist-upgrade" instead of just "upgrade". The same thing happened in stretch.
old Wheezy will not upgrade linux-kernel
Hi, Running al old wheezy system that is up-2-date on patches but I am running the v3.2.x kernel # uname -a Linux linbobo 3.2.0-4-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 3.2.96-2 i686 GNU/Linux After apt-get update I do an upgrade and it seems the kernel package will not install but is held back [] # apt-get upgrade -V The following packages have been kept back: linux-image-686-pae (3.2+46 => 3.2+46+deb7u1) Doing a manual install it seems the v3.2.0-4 kernel needs to be upgraded to a v3.2.0.-5 kernel. # apt-get install linux-image-686-pae Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done The following extra packages will be installed: linux-image-3.2.0-5-686-pae Suggested packages: linux-doc-3.2 debian-kernel-handbook The following NEW packages will be installed: linux-image-3.2.0-5-686-pae The following packages will be upgraded: linux-image-686-pae 1 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 6 not upgraded. Need to get 23.0 MB of archives. After this operation, 80.0 MB of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue [Y/n]? Should that then not simply be a upgrade? Is there any reason not to just simply do the apt-get install ? I have this "problem" on at least 2 Wheezy machines. One I cannot upgrade to Lenny. Which is the reason I have at least one other (not critical) machine also at Wheezy so I can compare and test. Bonno Bloksma
