problem mounting large partition ...

2000-03-26 Thread Adam Shand

i'm sure this is a faq but i can't find the answer so i'm hoping someone
here can give me a quick pointer to the right direction.

i just got done installing slink on a 13Gb maxtor drive.  my /var (where i
like to keep everything) is just over 10Gb. 

when i boot it hangs on the message:

/dev/hda3 on /var/ type ext2 (rw)

i'm assuming that this is a problem with large partitions on 2.0.36 kernels
but i can't get the damn thing mounted to upgrade the kernel.

pointers or suggestions would be much appreciated.

thanks,
adam.


Re: problem mounting large partition ...

2000-03-26 Thread Eric G . Miller
On Sat, Mar 25, 2000 at 05:26:40PM -0900, Adam Shand wrote:
 
 i'm sure this is a faq but i can't find the answer so i'm hoping someone
 here can give me a quick pointer to the right direction.
 
 i just got done installing slink on a 13Gb maxtor drive.  my /var (where i
 like to keep everything) is just over 10Gb. 

I won't ask why, but you should probably follow the fhs standard or you
might break things.
 
 when i boot it hangs on the message:
 
 /dev/hda3 on /var/ type ext2 (rw)
 
 i'm assuming that this is a problem with large partitions on 2.0.36 kernels
 but i can't get the damn thing mounted to upgrade the kernel.

I don't recall what the limit is, but with a large partition that may
contain many small files, you're likely to run out of inodes. And that's
no fun. I'd suggest breaking up var into smaller partitions: /var,
/var/spool, /var/lib and /var/cache for instance.  Larger partitions
also have longer fsck times. 

You might try booting into single user mode, then see if you can mount
the partition -- there may be some other reason why it hangs.  For
instance, if you used a new version of mkfs you might have made a
filesystem that is incompatible with the older kernels. Also, their may
be an issue with addressing 8GB drives -- does the kernel report the
``correct'' geometry at boot (C/H/S)?

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Re: problem mounting large partition ...

2000-03-26 Thread Adam Shand

 I won't ask why, but you should probably follow the fhs standard or you
 might break things.

which is?

 I don't recall what the limit is, but with a large partition that may
 contain many small files, you're likely to run out of inodes. And that's
 no fun. I'd suggest breaking up var into smaller partitions: /var,
 /var/spool, /var/lib and /var/cache for instance.  Larger partitions
 also have longer fsck times.

i've had bad luck in the past with non primary partitions.  i try and avoid
them when i can.  i like to keep user stuff (home dirs, web pages etc) out
of /usr so i normally make a large /var and link stuff to it.

 You might try booting into single user mode, then see if you can mount
 the partition -- there may be some other reason why it hangs.  For
 instance, if you used a new version of mkfs you might have made a
 filesystem that is incompatible with the older kernels. 

i've done a stock slink install and it hangs on the re-boot before you get
to deselect.  i don't think that is the problem.

 Also, their may be an issue with addressing 8GB drives -- does the
 kernel report the ``correct'' geometry at boot (C/H/S)?

it didn't until i disabled the drive in bios and then cfdisk found it and
reported it with the correct size.

i'm gonna try an install with the potato disks and see if that helps.  sigh
... back to floppies :)

adam.


Re: problem mounting large partition ...

2000-03-26 Thread Eric G . Miller
On Sat, Mar 25, 2000 at 07:03:21PM -0900, Adam Shand wrote:
 
  I won't ask why, but you should probably follow the fhs standard or you
  might break things.
 
 which is?

See http://www.pathname.com/fhs/

 i've had bad luck in the past with non primary partitions.  i try and avoid
 them when i can.  i like to keep user stuff (home dirs, web pages etc) out
 of /usr so i normally make a large /var and link stuff to it.

I've heard others report the same, I've never been that lucky -- and I
do have several extended partitions. BTW, the fhs has users' dirs on
/home rather than /usr/home. You can also put webpage homes there as
well if you do virtual hosting or just /home/public_html for normal user
pages. You can get away with four primaries too: /, /usr, /home, /var.


 i've done a stock slink install and it hangs on the re-boot before you get
 to deselect.  i don't think that is the problem.
 
  Also, their may be an issue with addressing 8GB drives -- does the
  kernel report the ``correct'' geometry at boot (C/H/S)?
 
 it didn't until i disabled the drive in bios and then cfdisk found it and
 reported it with the correct size.
 
 i'm gonna try an install with the potato disks and see if that helps.  sigh
 ... back to floppies :)

Well, if you have networking, you'll only need five: Rescue.bin
Root.bin, and the three driver disks -- you can get the rest off of the
net.  I did this last week on a system -- works slick if you have a fast
connection, kind of a drag if you don't.

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Re: problem mounting large partition ...

2000-03-26 Thread Peter Wintrich

you must have a boot partition comlete into the lower 1024 cyl. 


On Sat, 25 Mar 2000, Adam Shand wrote:

 
 i'm sure this is a faq but i can't find the answer so i'm hoping someone
 here can give me a quick pointer to the right direction.
 
 i just got done installing slink on a 13Gb maxtor drive.  my /var (where i
 like to keep everything) is just over 10Gb. 
 
 when i boot it hangs on the message:
 
 /dev/hda3 on /var/ type ext2 (rw)
 
 i'm assuming that this is a problem with large partitions on 2.0.36 kernels
 but i can't get the damn thing mounted to upgrade the kernel.
 
 pointers or suggestions would be much appreciated.
 
 thanks,
 adam.
 
 
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