Re: Problemas para instalar JAVA 1.3.1 en Debian 3.1 Sarge

2014-01-13 Thread Angel Claudio Alvarez
El Fri, 10 Jan 2014 14:45:39 +0100
fernando sainz fernandojose.sa...@gmail.com escribió:

 El 10 de enero de 2014, 14:30, Angel Claudio Alvarez 
 an...@angel-alvarez.com.ar escribió:
 
  El Wed, 08 Jan 2014 20:02:58 -0300
  tq tqlis...@gmail.com escribió:
 
  
 
 
  ./java -version
 
 
 solo tenes que poner ./ si ewstas en el mismo directorio
  para ejecutarlo desde cualquier lado directamente java -version
 
  Pone ademas el path del ejecutable de java antes que los demas paths en la
  variable PATH
 
 
 Hombre no, cuidado con los consejos que damos...
 en el path los primeros directorios han de ser los del sistema, y el último
 si se quiere poner, aunque desaconsejado, el ..
 

Que tiene que ver?? si necesitas que utilice determinado programa y le permitis 
utilizar la variable PATH para facilitarle las cosas, debes asegurarte que la 
version del programa que va a utilizar esta primero que las otras. En este caso 
debian a veces instala su version de java y si estan primeros los paths de 
sistema te va a fallar la aplicacion.
Ahora si realmente queres asegurar el sevidor, eliminas la variable PATH y que 
ejecute con paths absolutos. 
 
 En un ordenador personal puede que no sea muy importante, pero anda que no
 pueden meterse troyanos por ahí

el que este /opt/java/bin/ antes que /usr/java/bin/ no te va a permitir nunca 
que ente un troyano, si los permisos de los directorios estan asegurados , el 
orden importa si queres ejecutar determinada version, pero no amerita que 
instalen troyanos, porque para instalar un troyano en /opt/java/bin/ tenes que 
tenr permisos de root, y si tenes permisos de root... 
 
 S2.


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Re: Problemas para instalar JAVA 1.3.1 en Debian 3.1 Sarge

2014-01-13 Thread fernando sainz
El 14 de enero de 2014, 0:27, Angel Claudio Alvarez 
an...@angel-alvarez.com.ar escribió:

 El Fri, 10 Jan 2014 14:45:39 +0100
 fernando sainz fernandojose.sa...@gmail.com escribió:

  El 10 de enero de 2014, 14:30, Angel Claudio Alvarez 
  an...@angel-alvarez.com.ar escribió:
 
   El Wed, 08 Jan 2014 20:02:58 -0300
   tq tqlis...@gmail.com escribió:
  
   
 
  
   ./java -version
  
 
  solo tenes que poner ./ si ewstas en el mismo directorio
   para ejecutarlo desde cualquier lado directamente java -version
  
   Pone ademas el path del ejecutable de java antes que los demas paths
 en la
   variable PATH
  
  
  Hombre no, cuidado con los consejos que damos...
  en el path los primeros directorios han de ser los del sistema, y el
 último
  si se quiere poner, aunque desaconsejado, el ..
 

 Que tiene que ver?? si necesitas que utilice determinado programa y le
 permitis utilizar la variable PATH para facilitarle las cosas, debes
 asegurarte que la version del programa que va a utilizar esta primero que
 las otras. En este caso debian a veces instala su version de java y si
 estan primeros los paths de sistema te va a fallar la aplicacion.
 Ahora si realmente queres asegurar el sevidor, eliminas la variable PATH y
 que ejecute con paths absolutos.

  En un ordenador personal puede que no sea muy importante, pero anda que
 no
  pueden meterse troyanos por ahí

 el que este /opt/java/bin/ antes que /usr/java/bin/ no te va a permitir
 nunca que ente un troyano, si los permisos de los directorios estan
 asegurados , el orden importa si queres ejecutar determinada version, pero
 no amerita que instalen troyanos, porque para instalar un troyano en
 /opt/java/bin/ tenes que tenr permisos de root, y si tenes permisos de
 root...
 
  S2.


Lógicamente si lo instala root,con los permisos bien no va a haber troyanos.

Pero si es tu compañero el que instala java y tu cambias tu PATH metiendo
su directorio antes que los del sistema, nada le impide suplantar por
ejemplo el su e interceptar tus contraseñas.

Si necesitas usar una versión de java distinta, pues mejor pones la ruta
completa en los scripts y para ejecutar más cómodamente en consola, puedes
usar un alias.

S2.



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Re: Problemas para instalar JAVA 1.3.1 en Debian 3.1 Sarge

2014-01-10 Thread Angel Claudio Alvarez
El Wed, 08 Jan 2014 20:02:58 -0300
tq tqlis...@gmail.com escribió:

 On 08/01/14 19:17, Angel Claudio Alvarez wrote:
  El Wed, 08 Jan 2014 18:06:09 -0300
  tqtqlis...@gmail.com  escribió:
 
 
  Hola lista!
 
  Por una cuestión laboral debo instalar JAVA 1.3.1 sobre Debian Sarge 3.1
 
  Para ello baje estos 2 paquetes:
 
  j2re-1_3_1-linux-i386.bin
  j2sdk-1_3_1-linux-i386.bin
 
  Para instalarlos los copié a /usr y los ejecuté con:
 
  ./j2re-1_3_1-linux-i386.bin y ./j2sdk-1_3_1-linux-i386.bin
 
  Esto me generó 2 directorios dentro de /usr:
 
  drwxrwxr-x   9 root root  4096 May  6  2001 jdk1.3.1
  drwxrwxr-x   6 root root  4096 May  6  2001 jre1.3.1
 
  Luego de esto y para generar la variable $JAVA_HOME edité /etc/profile y
  agregé las rutas correspondientes:
 
  JAVA_HOME=/usr/jdk1.3.1
  export JAVA_HOME
  export PATH=$PATH:$/usr/jdk1.3.1/bin
 
  Ahora bien, cuando quiero probar si está todo instalado y ejecuto:
 
  cd /usr/jdk1.3.1/bin
  ./java -version
 
  Me dice:
 
  /usr/jdk1.3.1/bin/i386/native_threads/java: error while loading shared
  libraries: libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No
  such file or directory
 
  He buscado en Google encontrando el mismo problema [1] y una posible
  sugerencia [2], la cual no logro comprender.
 
  Alguien me podrá dar una mano con esto?
 
   
  el mensaje es claro te falta la biblioteca libstdc++
  Instala el paquete si existe para sarge o baja los fuentes y compilala
 
 
 Angel gracias por tu respuesta!
 
 Encontré cual era el problema:
 
 lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 24 Jan  8 23:05 libstdc++-lib6.1-1.so.2 - 
 libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3
 lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 24 Jan  9 01:35 libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2 - 
 libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3
 
 Había hecho mal el linkeo (fíjate que en el primero dice lib6 cuando 
 era libc6.
 
 Aprovecho para consultar:
 
 En esta instalación si hago:
 
 # echo $JAVA_HOME
 
 me devuelve:
 
 /usr/jdk1.3.1
 
 y si hago
 
 # echo $PATH
 
 me devuelve:
 
 /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:$/usr/jdk1.3.1/bin
 
 Ahora para poder probar la versión de java con:
 
 ./java -version
 

solo tenes que poner ./ si ewstas en el mismo directorio
para ejecutarlo desde cualquier lado directamente java -version

Pone ademas el path del ejecutable de java antes que los demas paths en la 
variable PATH

 Solo funciona cuando lo hago estando en el directorio
 
 /usr/jdk1.3.1/bin#
 
 y no en cualquier lugar.
 
 Esto es correcto o al estar en en PATH debería funcionar desde cualquier 
 directorio?
 
 Muchas Gracias.
 
 Saludos.
 
 
 
 
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Re: Problemas para instalar JAVA 1.3.1 en Debian 3.1 Sarge

2014-01-10 Thread fernando sainz
El 10 de enero de 2014, 14:30, Angel Claudio Alvarez 
an...@angel-alvarez.com.ar escribió:

 El Wed, 08 Jan 2014 20:02:58 -0300
 tq tqlis...@gmail.com escribió:

 


 ./java -version


solo tenes que poner ./ si ewstas en el mismo directorio
 para ejecutarlo desde cualquier lado directamente java -version

 Pone ademas el path del ejecutable de java antes que los demas paths en la
 variable PATH


Hombre no, cuidado con los consejos que damos...
en el path los primeros directorios han de ser los del sistema, y el último
si se quiere poner, aunque desaconsejado, el ..

En un ordenador personal puede que no sea muy importante, pero anda que no
pueden meterse troyanos por ahí

S2.


Problemas para instalar JAVA 1.3.1 en Debian 3.1 Sarge

2014-01-08 Thread tq

Hola lista!

Por una cuestión laboral debo instalar JAVA 1.3.1 sobre Debian Sarge 3.1

Para ello baje estos 2 paquetes:

j2re-1_3_1-linux-i386.bin
j2sdk-1_3_1-linux-i386.bin

Para instalarlos los copié a /usr y los ejecuté con:

./j2re-1_3_1-linux-i386.bin y ./j2sdk-1_3_1-linux-i386.bin

Esto me generó 2 directorios dentro de /usr:

drwxrwxr-x   9 root root  4096 May  6  2001 jdk1.3.1
drwxrwxr-x   6 root root  4096 May  6  2001 jre1.3.1

Luego de esto y para generar la variable $JAVA_HOME edité /etc/profile y 
agregé las rutas correspondientes:


JAVA_HOME=/usr/jdk1.3.1
export JAVA_HOME
export PATH=$PATH:$/usr/jdk1.3.1/bin

Ahora bien, cuando quiero probar si está todo instalado y ejecuto:

cd /usr/jdk1.3.1/bin
./java -version

Me dice:

/usr/jdk1.3.1/bin/i386/native_threads/java: error while loading shared 
libraries: libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No 
such file or directory


He buscado en Google encontrando el mismo problema [1] y una posible 
sugerencia [2], la cual no logro comprender.


Alguien me podrá dar una mano con esto?

Muchas Gracias.

Salu2.

[1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2007/10/msg01298.html
[2] https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2007/10/msg01320.html











/usr/jdk1.3.1/bin/i386/native_threads/java: error while loading shared 
libraries: libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No 
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Re: Problemas para instalar JAVA 1.3.1 en Debian 3.1 Sarge

2014-01-08 Thread Angel Claudio Alvarez
El Wed, 08 Jan 2014 18:06:09 -0300
tq tqlis...@gmail.com escribió:

 Hola lista!
 
 Por una cuestión laboral debo instalar JAVA 1.3.1 sobre Debian Sarge 3.1
 
 Para ello baje estos 2 paquetes:
 
 j2re-1_3_1-linux-i386.bin
 j2sdk-1_3_1-linux-i386.bin
 
 Para instalarlos los copié a /usr y los ejecuté con:
 
 ./j2re-1_3_1-linux-i386.bin y ./j2sdk-1_3_1-linux-i386.bin
 
 Esto me generó 2 directorios dentro de /usr:
 
 drwxrwxr-x   9 root root  4096 May  6  2001 jdk1.3.1
 drwxrwxr-x   6 root root  4096 May  6  2001 jre1.3.1
 
 Luego de esto y para generar la variable $JAVA_HOME edité /etc/profile y 
 agregé las rutas correspondientes:
 
 JAVA_HOME=/usr/jdk1.3.1
 export JAVA_HOME
 export PATH=$PATH:$/usr/jdk1.3.1/bin
 
 Ahora bien, cuando quiero probar si está todo instalado y ejecuto:
 
 cd /usr/jdk1.3.1/bin
 ./java -version
 
 Me dice:
 
 /usr/jdk1.3.1/bin/i386/native_threads/java: error while loading shared 
 libraries: libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No 
 such file or directory
 
 He buscado en Google encontrando el mismo problema [1] y una posible 
 sugerencia [2], la cual no logro comprender.
 
 Alguien me podrá dar una mano con esto?
 
el mensaje es claro te falta la biblioteca libstdc++
Instala el paquete si existe para sarge o baja los fuentes y compilala

 Muchas Gracias.
 
 Salu2.
 
 [1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2007/10/msg01298.html
 [2] https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2007/10/msg01320.html
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 /usr/jdk1.3.1/bin/i386/native_threads/java: error while loading shared 
 libraries: libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No 
 such file or directory
 
 
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Re: Problemas para instalar JAVA 1.3.1 en Debian 3.1 Sarge

2014-01-08 Thread tq

On 08/01/14 19:17, Angel Claudio Alvarez wrote:

El Wed, 08 Jan 2014 18:06:09 -0300
tqtqlis...@gmail.com  escribió:

   

Hola lista!

Por una cuestión laboral debo instalar JAVA 1.3.1 sobre Debian Sarge 3.1

Para ello baje estos 2 paquetes:

j2re-1_3_1-linux-i386.bin
j2sdk-1_3_1-linux-i386.bin

Para instalarlos los copié a /usr y los ejecuté con:

./j2re-1_3_1-linux-i386.bin y ./j2sdk-1_3_1-linux-i386.bin

Esto me generó 2 directorios dentro de /usr:

drwxrwxr-x   9 root root  4096 May  6  2001 jdk1.3.1
drwxrwxr-x   6 root root  4096 May  6  2001 jre1.3.1

Luego de esto y para generar la variable $JAVA_HOME edité /etc/profile y
agregé las rutas correspondientes:

JAVA_HOME=/usr/jdk1.3.1
export JAVA_HOME
export PATH=$PATH:$/usr/jdk1.3.1/bin

Ahora bien, cuando quiero probar si está todo instalado y ejecuto:

cd /usr/jdk1.3.1/bin
./java -version

Me dice:

/usr/jdk1.3.1/bin/i386/native_threads/java: error while loading shared
libraries: libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No
such file or directory

He buscado en Google encontrando el mismo problema [1] y una posible
sugerencia [2], la cual no logro comprender.

Alguien me podrá dar una mano con esto?

 

el mensaje es claro te falta la biblioteca libstdc++
Instala el paquete si existe para sarge o baja los fuentes y compilala

   

Angel gracias por tu respuesta!

Encontré cual era el problema:

lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 24 Jan  8 23:05 libstdc++-lib6.1-1.so.2 - 
libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 24 Jan  9 01:35 libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2 - 
libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3


Había hecho mal el linkeo (fíjate que en el primero dice lib6 cuando 
era libc6.


Aprovecho para consultar:

En esta instalación si hago:

# echo $JAVA_HOME

me devuelve:

/usr/jdk1.3.1

y si hago

# echo $PATH

me devuelve:

/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:$/usr/jdk1.3.1/bin

Ahora para poder probar la versión de java con:

./java -version

Solo funciona cuando lo hago estando en el directorio

/usr/jdk1.3.1/bin#

y no en cualquier lugar.

Esto es correcto o al estar en en PATH debería funcionar desde cualquier 
directorio?


Muchas Gracias.

Saludos.




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Re: Problemas para instalar JAVA 1.3.1 en Debian 3.1 Sarge

2014-01-08 Thread Santiago José López Borrazás
El 09/01/14 00:02, tq escribió:
(...)
 Esto es correcto o al estar en en PATH debería funcionar desde cualquier
 directorio?

Puedes tener esto en el .bashrc:

JDK_HOME=/usr/java/jre1.7.0_45
PATH=$PATH:$JDK_HOME/bin

Sin más.

Una vez hecho esto, deberás reiniciar la consola que tengas en aquél momento
o, mismo, el escritorio que tengas y ya te funcionará perfectamente.

A mí me funciona sin problema.

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Re: Re: MySQL 4.0 (sarge) -- MySQL 5.0 (etch) -- Please do REPAIR TABLE

2012-05-09 Thread Rajeev tyagi
Dera Tech,


i m not able to see innodb table on mysql database can you pls help me out

Thanks  regards

Rajeev


Re: Re: MySQL 4.0 (sarge) -- MySQL 5.0 (etch) -- Please do REPAIR TABLE

2012-05-09 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen
Hi

On Wed, May 09, 2012 at 08:04:11AM +0100, Rajeev tyagi wrote:
 Dera Tech,
 
 
 i m not able to see innodb table on mysql database can you pls help me out

Difficult to help without more details

How are you attempting to see the table? (e.g. what SQL statement?)

Which error do you get?


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Re: what happened in sarge to lose 500 dd?

2012-01-13 Thread afuentes
It makes sense... thank you

Greets!
aL

On Thu, 2012-01-12 at 16:23 +0100, Florian Ernst wrote:
 Hello,
 
 On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 03:21:05PM +0100, afuentes wrote:
  http://claudiocomputing.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/infographic_debian_history-en-v08.png
  
  what happened in sarge to lose 500 dd?
 
 For the most part of it this:
 
 Handling of (inactive) Debian Accounts
 http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2007/02/msg8.html
 
 HTH,
 Flo
 
 




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Re: what happened in sarge to lose 500 dd?

2012-01-12 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2012 12 Jan 08:36 -0600, afuentes wrote:
 what happened in sarge to lose 500 dd?

Timewise, it coincides with the rise of Ubuntu.  I don't think that
necessarily accounts for the numeric loss, though.  Perhaps there was a
new way of counting devs about that time.  I'm a user and not a DD so I
don't track everything that happens in the project.

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Re: what happened in sarge to lose 500 dd?

2012-01-12 Thread Florian Ernst
Hello,

On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 03:21:05PM +0100, afuentes wrote:
 http://claudiocomputing.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/infographic_debian_history-en-v08.png
 
 what happened in sarge to lose 500 dd?

For the most part of it this:

Handling of (inactive) Debian Accounts
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2007/02/msg8.html

HTH,
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Re: los repositorios de Sarge no me funcionan? quién me ayuda

2011-11-23 Thread Lisi
On Wednesday 23 November 2011 00:21:01 Bob Proulx wrote:
 They said they wanted to upgrade.

So much for my Spanish. :-(  I thought that it was update.

Mea culpa :-(

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Re: los repositorios de Sarge no me funcionan? quién me ayuda

2011-11-23 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Alexis Herera wrote:

will see go as me with this lines
tanks 
and cuyalquier was an error of write




snip

Let us know how it went.

Avisa nos como se fue.

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Re: los repositorios de Sarge no me funcionan? quién me ayuda

2011-11-23 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 18:18:32 -0500, Alexis Herera wrote:

 Quién me ayuda, los repositorios de Sarge no me funcionan. Por cuál los
 puedo reemplazar porque quiero actualizar mi versión de Debian

Alexis, you have post to the English mailing list, you better try by 
resending your message to the Spanish one (debian-user-
span...@lists.debian.org) or rewrite/repost your query in English so 
people can give you some hints.

Anyway, and in reply to your query, I guess Sarge repository is now 
available at the archive mirror:

http://archive.debian.org/debian/dists/sarge/

If you want to update to Squeeze (the current stable) it will require a 
jump of three releases, (sarge → etch → lenny → squeeze) you will have to 
carefully read the Release Notes for Squeeze but AFAIK, it is only 
oficially supported to update from one release to the next one, so be 
very cautious if you plan to do a direct upgrade.

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Re: los repositorios de Sarge no me funcionan? quién me ayuda

2011-11-23 Thread Alexis Herrera

El 22/11/2011 08:41 p.m., Bob Proulx escribió:

Alexis Herera wrote:

Lo que pasa es cuando le doy update o upgrade o instalar cuyalquier
programa no lo hace por estar buscando en esta lista de repositorios:

Please pardon my inability to communicate in Spanish.  You CC'd an
incorrect address.  Trydebian-user-span...@lists.debian.org
instead.

Please do NOT crosspost.  Do not send to both lists in the same
message.  Pick one only.  Send to only one list at a time.

   http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-spanish/

But I think you are asking about a particular program called
cuyalquier??  I do not know about such a program.


# Security updates for stable
deb http://security.debian.org sarge/updates main contrib non-free
...

Sarge is out of support.  Sarge no longer has security upgrades.  Only
the last release is available.  All of the lines you showed were
obsolete or incorrect.

Eliminate all of them.  Delete.  Discard.


pero en http://archive.debian.org/ no veo sarge, que direciones de
repositorios me recomiendan? o cuáles son las direcciones para agregarlas
al source.list

For Sarge only the deep archive is available.  Use *only* these lines
in /etc/apt/sources.list:

   deb http://archive.debian.org/debian sarge main contrib non-free
   deb-src http://archive.debian.org/debian sarge main contrib non-free

Remove all other lines.

There is a possibility that you will have signing key problems and
will need to manually force an update of the debian-archive-keyring
and update after that in order to resolve expired key problems.

Bob
thank you all, with the that said Bob Proulx I'm working without 
problems in my server



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los repositorios de Sarge no me funcionan? quién me ayuda

2011-11-22 Thread Alexis Herera
Quién me ayuda, los repositorios de Sarge no me funcionan. Por cuál los
puedo reemplazar porque quiero actualizar mi versión de Debian


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Re: los repositorios de Sarge no me funcionan? quién me ayuda

2011-11-22 Thread Lisi
On Tuesday 22 November 2011 23:18:32 Alexis Herera wrote:
 Quién me ayuda, los repositorios de Sarge no me funcionan. Por cuál los
 puedo reemplazar porque quiero actualizar mi versión de Debian

This list is in English.  There is a Spanish language list: 
about.debian-user-span...@lists.debian.org
which might suit you better.

Sarge will be available only in the archives.  It is now fairly long in the 
tooth, having been superceded by: Etch - Lenny - Squeeze.

Is there a reason why you want to use such an old version of Debian?

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Re: los repositorios de Sarge no me funcionan? quién me ayuda

2011-11-22 Thread Bob Proulx
Lisi wrote:
 Alexis Herera wrote:
  Quién me ayuda, los repositorios de Sarge no me funcionan. Por cuál los
  puedo reemplazar porque quiero actualizar mi versión de Debian
 
 This list is in English.  There is a Spanish language list: 
 about.debian-user-span...@lists.debian.org
 which might suit you better.
 
 Sarge will be available only in the archives.  It is now fairly long in the 
 tooth, having been superceded by: Etch - Lenny - Squeeze.
 
 Is there a reason why you want to use such an old version of Debian?

They said they wanted to upgrade.  For that you will need to upgrade
through all of the major releases.  If you had a Sarge 3.1 system then
you would first want to upgrade to the latest Sarge 3.1 available and
then upgrade from Sarge to Etch.  Then from Etch to Lenny.  Then from
Lenny to Squeeze.  All of which can be easily done by using the
archive at archive.debian.org.  If you were starting at Etch 3.0 then
it is the same that you would want to be fully up to date with the
latest available Etch 3.0 first and then upgrade from Etch to Sarge.

  deb http://archive.debian.org/debian/ etch main

I happened to have done that to an old machine not very long ago
myself.  Debian is good for upgrades.

Bob


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Re: los repositorios de Sarge no me funcionan? quién me ayuda

2011-11-22 Thread Alexis Herera
Lo que pasa es cuando le doy update o upgrade o instalar cuyalquier
programa no lo hace por estar buscando en esta lista de repositorios:

# Security updates for stable
deb http://security.debian.org sarge/updates main contrib non-free
deb http://security.debian.org sarge/updates main
deb http://security.debian.org testing/updates main contrib non-free
deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/archive/debian-security/ sarge/updates main
deb http://archive.debian.org/debian-archive sarge/updates main

# Los paquetes de sarge
deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/pub/debian sarge main contrib non-free
deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/pub/debian sarge main
deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/pub/debian-non-US sarge/non-US main contrib
non-free
deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/archive/debian/ sarge main
deb http://archive.debian.org/debian-archive sarge main

pero en http://archive.debian.org/ no veo sarge, que direciones de
repositorios me recomiendan? o cuáles son las direcciones para agregarlas
al source.list

El 22 de noviembre de 2011 19:21, Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com escribió:

 Lisi wrote:
  Alexis Herera wrote:
   Quién me ayuda, los repositorios de Sarge no me funcionan. Por cuál los
   puedo reemplazar porque quiero actualizar mi versión de Debian
 
  This list is in English.  There is a Spanish language list:
  about.debian-user-span...@lists.debian.org
  which might suit you better.
 
  Sarge will be available only in the archives.  It is now fairly long in
 the
  tooth, having been superceded by: Etch - Lenny - Squeeze.
 
  Is there a reason why you want to use such an old version of Debian?

 They said they wanted to upgrade.  For that you will need to upgrade
 through all of the major releases.  If you had a Sarge 3.1 system then
 you would first want to upgrade to the latest Sarge 3.1 available and
 then upgrade from Sarge to Etch.  Then from Etch to Lenny.  Then from
 Lenny to Squeeze.  All of which can be easily done by using the
 archive at archive.debian.org.  If you were starting at Etch 3.0 then
 it is the same that you would want to be fully up to date with the
 latest available Etch 3.0 first and then upgrade from Etch to Sarge.

  deb http://archive.debian.org/debian/ etch main

 I happened to have done that to an old machine not very long ago
 myself.  Debian is good for upgrades.

 Bob




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Re: los repositorios de Sarge no me funcionan? quién me ayuda

2011-11-22 Thread Bob Proulx
Alexis Herera wrote:
 Lo que pasa es cuando le doy update o upgrade o instalar cuyalquier
 programa no lo hace por estar buscando en esta lista de repositorios:

Please pardon my inability to communicate in Spanish.  You CC'd an
incorrect address.  Try debian-user-span...@lists.debian.org
instead.

Please do NOT crosspost.  Do not send to both lists in the same
message.  Pick one only.  Send to only one list at a time.

  http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-spanish/

But I think you are asking about a particular program called
cuyalquier??  I do not know about such a program.

 # Security updates for stable
 deb http://security.debian.org sarge/updates main contrib non-free
 ...

Sarge is out of support.  Sarge no longer has security upgrades.  Only
the last release is available.  All of the lines you showed were
obsolete or incorrect.

Eliminate all of them.  Delete.  Discard.

 pero en http://archive.debian.org/ no veo sarge, que direciones de
 repositorios me recomiendan? o cuáles son las direcciones para agregarlas
 al source.list

For Sarge only the deep archive is available.  Use *only* these lines
in /etc/apt/sources.list:

  deb http://archive.debian.org/debian sarge main contrib non-free
  deb-src http://archive.debian.org/debian sarge main contrib non-free

Remove all other lines.

There is a possibility that you will have signing key problems and
will need to manually force an update of the debian-archive-keyring
and update after that in order to resolve expired key problems.

Bob


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Re: los repositorios de Sarge no me funcionan? quién me ayuda

2011-11-22 Thread Alexis Herera
will see go as me with this lines
tanks
and cuyalquier was an error of write



El 22 de noviembre de 2011 20:41, Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com escribió:

 Alexis Herera wrote:
  Lo que pasa es cuando le doy update o upgrade o instalar cuyalquier
  programa no lo hace por estar buscando en esta lista de repositorios:

 Please pardon my inability to communicate in Spanish.  You CC'd an
 incorrect address.  Try debian-user-span...@lists.debian.org
 instead.

 Please do NOT crosspost.  Do not send to both lists in the same
 message.  Pick one only.  Send to only one list at a time.

  http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-spanish/

 But I think you are asking about a particular program called
 cuyalquier??  I do not know about such a program.

  # Security updates for stable
  deb http://security.debian.org sarge/updates main contrib non-free
  ...

 Sarge is out of support.  Sarge no longer has security upgrades.  Only
 the last release is available.  All of the lines you showed were
 obsolete or incorrect.

 Eliminate all of them.  Delete.  Discard.

  pero en http://archive.debian.org/ no veo sarge, que direciones de
  repositorios me recomiendan? o cuáles son las direcciones para agregarlas
  al source.list

 For Sarge only the deep archive is available.  Use *only* these lines
 in /etc/apt/sources.list:

  deb http://archive.debian.org/debian sarge main contrib non-free
  deb-src http://archive.debian.org/debian sarge main contrib non-free

 Remove all other lines.

 There is a possibility that you will have signing key problems and
 will need to manually force an update of the debian-archive-keyring
 and update after that in order to resolve expired key problems.

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Resolu: debain, Glib et round() = comportement bizarre sous sarge gLib 2.3.2

2011-04-05 Thread Yann Cohen
Bonjour,

Pb de version de gcc et de dialecte C = -std=gnu99 et round
fonctionne !

Yann.
 Le Sun, 3 Apr 2011 18:33:50 +0200,
Yann Cohen y...@ianco.org a écrit :

 Bonjour,
 
 Je rentre d'une mise en service d'une nouvelle version soft sur une
 ancienne plate forme debian sous sarge et je me suis rendu compte que
 sur cette version j'avais des comportements inattendus lors des
 calculs et de l'utilisation de la fonction round() de la bibliothèque
 mathématique.
 
 J'ai donc réalisé un petit programme de test de la fonction round
 (round.c)
 
 et je l'ai fait fonctionner sur trois cibles différentes : la cible
 sarge, une cible lenny et ma station en sid.
 
 le comportement est uniquement différent sur la version sarge où :
 round(0) retourne autre chose que 0 et qu'après quelque utilisation de
 round la variable n n'est plus reconnue comme un double.
 
 Je ne vois pas où pourrait être la différence ou la mauvaise
 utilisation de round().
 
 Je n'ai pas trouvé non plus de point d'entrée sur la glib pour
 round(), mais là je ne suis pas sûr d'avoir bien cherché.
 
 Est-ce quelqu'un a déjà rencontré ce type de problème ?
 
 Bien entendu, la mise à jour de la cible n'est pas une option viable
 pour pleins de mauvaises raisons bien terre à terre !
 
 Merci d'avance.
 
 En pièces jointes :
 - round.c le programme simple de test
 - test.sh le srcipt de test executé sur chaque cible,
 - sid.txt résultat sur sid
 - lenny.txt résultat sur lenny
 - sarge.txt résultat sur sarge
 
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debain, Glib et round() = comportement bizarre sous sarge gLib 2.3.2

2011-04-03 Thread Yann Cohen
Bonjour,

Je rentre d'une mise en service d'une nouvelle version soft sur une
ancienne plate forme debian sous sarge et je me suis rendu compte que
sur cette version j'avais des comportements inattendus lors des calculs
et de l'utilisation de la fonction round() de la bibliothèque
mathématique.

J'ai donc réalisé un petit programme de test de la fonction round
(round.c)

et je l'ai fait fonctionner sur trois cibles différentes : la cible
sarge, une cible lenny et ma station en sid.

le comportement est uniquement différent sur la version sarge où :
round(0) retourne autre chose que 0 et qu'après quelque utilisation de
round la variable n n'est plus reconnue comme un double.

Je ne vois pas où pourrait être la différence ou la mauvaise
utilisation de round().

Je n'ai pas trouvé non plus de point d'entrée sur la glib pour round(),
mais là je ne suis pas sûr d'avoir bien cherché.

Est-ce quelqu'un a déjà rencontré ce type de problème ?

Bien entendu, la mise à jour de la cible n'est pas une option viable
pour pleins de mauvaises raisons bien terre à terre !

Merci d'avance.

En pièces jointes :
- round.c le programme simple de test
- test.sh le srcipt de test executé sur chaque cible,
- sid.txt résultat sur sid
- lenny.txt résultat sur lenny
- sarge.txt résultat sur sarge

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uname
Linux lenny 2.6.26-2-486 #1 Tue Mar 9 17:10:34 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux

glibc
GNU C Library stable release version 2.7, by Roland McGrath et al.

Compilation
round.c: In function ‘main’:
round.c:14: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function 
‘round’

Sans utilisation de round()
-0./2.=-0.
0.0010/2.=0.5000
0.0020/2.=1.
0.0030/2.=1.5000
0.0040/2.=2.
0.0050/2.=2.5000
0.0060/2.=3.
0.0070/2.=3.5000
0.0080/2.=4.
0.0090/2.=4.5000
0.0100/2.=5.
0.0110/2.=5.5000
0.0120/2.=6.
0.0130/2.=6.5000
0.0140/2.=7.
0.0150/2.=7.5000
0.0160/2.=8.
0.0170/2.=8.5000
0.0180/2.=9.
0.0190/2.=9.5000

Avec utilisation de round()
-0./2.=-0. round(-0. 0)
0.0010/2.=0.5000 round(1. 1)
0.0020/2.=1. round(1. 1)
0.0030/2.=1.5000 round(2. 2)
0.0040/2.=2. round(2. 2)
0.0050/2.=2.5000 round(3. 3)
0.0060/2.=3. round(3. 3)
0.0070/2.=3.5000 round(4. 4)
0.0080/2.=4. round(4. 4)
0.0090/2.=4.5000 round(5. 5)
0.0100/2.=5. round(5. 5)
0.0110/2.=5.5000 round(6. 6)
0.0120/2.=6. round(6. 6)
0.0130/2.=6.5000 round(7. 7)
0.0140/2.=7. round(7. 7)
0.0150/2.=7.5000 round(8. 8)
0.0160/2.=8. round(8. 8)
0.0170/2.=8.5000 round(9. 9)
0.0180/2.=9. round(9. 9)
0.0190/2.=9.5000 round(10. 10)
#include stdio.h
#include stdlib.h
#include math.h

main(int argc, char *argv[])
{
	double n, d=2, q, r;
	int nb = 20;
	
	while(nb--) {
		q = n / d * 1E3;
		printf(%.4lf/%.4lf=%.4lf, n, d, q);
		if (argc  1) {
			r = round(q);
			printf( round(%.4lf %ld), r, (long)r);
		}
		printf(\n, r, (long)r);
		n += 0.001;
		//d *= 1.3;
	}
}
uname
Linux sarge 2.6.8-2-386 #1 Tue Aug 16 12:46:35 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux

glibc
GNU C Library stable release version 2.3.2, by Roland McGrath et al.

Compilation

Sans utilisation de round()
0./2.=0.
0.0010/2.=0.5000
0.0020/2.=1.
0.0030/2.=1.5000
0.0040/2.=2.
0.0050/2.=2.5000
0.0060/2.=3.
0.0070/2.=3.5000
0.0080/2.=4.
0.0090/2.=4.5000
0.0100/2.=5.
0.0110/2.=5.5000
0.0120/2.=6.
0.0130/2.=6.5000
0.0140/2.=7.
0.0150/2.=7.5000
0.0160/2.=8.
0.0170/2.=8.5000
0.0180/2.=9.
0.0190/2.=9.5000

Avec utilisation de round()
0./2.=0. round(32. 32)
0.0010/2.=0.5000 round(14368. 14368)
0.0020/2.=1. round(0. 0)
0.0030/2.=1.5000 round(534560. 534560)
0.0040/2.=2. round(0. 0)
0.0050/2.=2.5000 round(268320. 268320)
0.0060/2.=3. round(0. 0)
nan/2.=nan round(2047. 2047)
nan/2.=nan round(2047. 2047)
nan/2.=nan round(2047. 2047)
nan/2.=nan round(2047. 2047)
nan/2.=nan round(2047. 2047)
nan/2.=nan round(2047. 2047)
nan/2.=nan round(2047. 2047)
nan/2.=nan round(2047. 2047)
nan/2.=nan round(2047. 2047)
nan/2.=nan round(2047. 2047)
nan/2.=nan round(2047. 2047)
nan/2.=nan round(2047. 2047)
nan/2.=nan round(2047. 2047)
uname
Linux yan 2.6.32-5-amd64 #1 SMP Mon Mar 7 21:35:22 UTC 2011 x86_64 GNU/Linux

glibc
GNU C Library (Debian EGLIBC 2.11.2-11) stable release version 2.11.2, by 
Roland McGrath et al.

Compilation

Sans utilisation de round()
0./2.=0.
0.0010/2.=0.5000
0.0020/2.=1.
0.0030/2.=1.5000
0.0040/2.=2.
0.0050/2.=2.5000
0.0060/2.=3.
0.0070/2.=3.5000
0.0080/2.=4.
0.0090/2.

Smart Array P212 and Sarge

2010-11-09 Thread Toomas Aas

Hello!

I'm looking for new hardware for a server which is running a  
customized Linux version based on Debian Sarge. The hardware I'm being  
offered has a Smart Array P212 controller, and I'm not sure whether it  
would work with Sarge. Has anyone tried this combination?


The system which is installed on this hardware is installed from a  
custom CD and there is no way to modify the underlying Linux by adding  
drivers, changing boot loader parameters or anything like that - the  
hardware just has to work with what is on CD:

Linux 2.6.20.10
cciss driver 3.6.14

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Re: Smart Array P212 and Sarge

2010-11-09 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 09 Nov 2010 14:24:49 +0200, Toomas Aas wrote:

 I'm looking for new hardware for a server which is running a customized
 Linux version based on Debian Sarge. The hardware I'm being offered has
 a Smart Array P212 controller, and I'm not sure whether it would work
 with Sarge. Has anyone tried this combination?

http://cciss.sourceforge.net/#supportedhardware

P212 seems to be covered by cciss _but_ you should look into 3.6.14 
release and check from the source files (readme, release notes and/or 
doc) if P212 is supported specifically under this version.

If you are thinking in getting a Proliant server, you can also look here:

http://wiki.debian.org/HP/ProLiant
 
 The system which is installed on this hardware is installed from a
 custom CD and there is no way to modify the underlying Linux by adding
 drivers, changing boot loader parameters or anything like that - the
 hardware just has to work with what is on CD: Linux 2.6.20.10
 cciss driver 3.6.14

If 100% compatibility is a must, maybe buying the same controller you are 
currently using with your server would be the best approach. Is the only 
way to ensure the new piece of hardware will work in the same manner as 
it does now.

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Re: Smart Array P212 and Sarge

2010-11-09 Thread Toomas Aas

T, 09 nov   2010 kirjutas Camaleón noela...@gmail.com:


P212 seems to be covered by cciss _but_ you should look into 3.6.14
release and check from the source files (readme, release notes and/or
doc) if P212 is supported specifically under this version.


That's exactly my concern, having done some reading it seems to me  
that support for P212 was added in 3.6.20. What I don't know is  
whether before that it wouldn't work at all or maybe it worked as  
generic Unknown Smart Array controller. I was hoping that someone  
here happens to have tried it.


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Re: Where to find sarge (3.1) packages?

2010-09-24 Thread Clemens Eisserer
Hi Sven,

 Any idea where I could still find packages for debian sarge for manual
 download?

 http://archive.debian.net/
 You need to download dhcp3-common as well, if it's not installed yet.

Thanks a lot, you saved my day. The P90 is now happily sending out
DHCPOFFER packages ;)

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Where to find sarge (3.1) packages?

2010-09-23 Thread Clemens Eisserer
Hi,

Any idea where I could still find packages for debian sarge for manual
download?

I have a quite old and very broken sarge installation running on a
Pentium-90 machine.
I would like to install dhcp3-server by hand, because apt-get's
database destroyed itself some years ago ;)
The machine simply acts as a fail-save router for our current server -
I don't have the time to re-setup that old machine - nor is it
connected to the internet, so no security risks.

Thank you in advance, Clemens


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Re: Where to find sarge (3.1) packages?

2010-09-23 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2010-09-23 11:53 +0200, Clemens Eisserer wrote:

 Any idea where I could still find packages for debian sarge for manual
 download?

http://archive.debian.net/

 I have a quite old and very broken sarge installation running on a
 Pentium-90 machine.
 I would like to install dhcp3-server by hand, because apt-get's
 database destroyed itself some years ago ;)

You need to download dhcp3-common as well, if it's not installed yet.

Sven



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Re: Where to find sarge (3.1) packages?

2010-09-23 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 23 Sep 2010 11:53:06 +0200, Clemens Eisserer wrote:

 Any idea where I could still find packages for debian sarge for manual
 download?

Using the Snapshot server? :-?

 I have a quite old and very broken sarge installation running on a
 Pentium-90 machine.
 I would like to install dhcp3-server by hand, because apt-get's database
 destroyed itself some years ago ;) The machine simply acts as a
 fail-save router for our current server - I don't have the time to
 re-setup that old machine - nor is it connected to the internet, so no
 security risks.

Check if this helps:

http://snapshot.debian.org/binary/dhcp3-server/

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Debian 3.1 (sarge)

2010-02-06 Thread mateuszeskadra
Witam czy jest dostepna wersja Debian 3.1 (sarge) i ile by kosztowała bardzo
potrzebna.


Re: Debian 3.1 (sarge)

2010-02-06 Thread Frans Pop
(Reply-to set to d-u-polish)

mateuszeska...@vp.pl wrote:
 Witam czy jest dostepna wersja Debian 3.1 (sarge) i ile by kosztowała
 bardzo potrzebna.

I don't read Polish, but I suspect you're looking for this:
http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/

Cheers,
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Debian 3.1 (sarge)

2010-02-06 Thread mateuszeskadra
Witam czy jest dostepna wersja Debian 3.1 (sarge) chodzi mi o pierwsze
wydanie z roku 2005.06.06 i ile by kosztowała
bardzo potrzebna.


Re: Debian 3.1 (sarge)

2010-02-06 Thread Wojciech Ziniewicz
Witam,
np tutaj :

http://tinyurl.com/y9djfyf

debian jest darmowym systemem operacyjnym

W dniu 6 lutego 2010 17:03 użytkownik  mateuszeska...@vp.pl napisał:
 Witam czy jest dostepna wersja Debian 3.1 (sarge) chodzi mi o pierwsze
 wydanie z roku 2005.06.06 i ile by kosztowała
 bardzo potrzebna.




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Re: Debian 3.1 (sarge)

2010-02-06 Thread Krzysztof Zubik
 mateuszeska...@vp.pl napisał.
 Witam czy jest dostepna wersja Debian 3.1 (sarge) chodzi mi o pierwsze
 wydanie z roku 2005.06.06 i ile by kosztowała
 bardzo potrzebna.
Witam.
Debiany. One przeciez darmowe. Pewnie jezeli juz ktos koniecznie chce
moze i kupic
razem z jakims czasopismem linuxowym. Moze najpiew zajrzyj do googli
linuxowych np.
pod http://www.google.pl/linux?hl=plq=Debian+3.1btnG=Szukajlr=lang_pl
Oczywiscie bmozna dalej pokombinowac ze slopwem kluczowym wprowadzonym
pod http://www.google.pl/linux i jezeli ma sie ochote przeszukiw3ac
jedynie
polskie strony. Powodzenia. :) Uda sie cos znalezc. Najpierw sciagnac 
obraz *.iso Nagrac go zaleznmie od potrazeb na CD, lub DVD. Z tej plytki
uruchomic
komputer i zainstalowac.
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chroot + upgrader une ancienne version Debian-Sarge

2010-01-15 Thread corbie
Bonsoir,

Je souhaite réhabiliter une ancienne version Debian Sarge, 
kernel 2.6.18-5-486, encore en bon état.
(et oui, le temps passe vite)

Je la monte depuis Lenny et tape :
chroot /media/hdb1
Réponse :
chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': Permission denied
Quid ?

Ceci dit, je peux booter sur cette partition qui est encore en bon état.
Comment l'upgrader vers Lenny, si cela est encore possible ?

Merci !

henri

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Re: chroot + upgrader une ancienne version Debian-Sarge

2010-01-15 Thread David Prévot
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On 15/01/2010 18:14, cor...@free.fr wrote:
 Bonsoir,

Bonsoir,

 Je la monte depuis Lenny et tape :
 chroot /media/hdb1
 Réponse :
 chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': Permission denied
 Quid ?

Deux hypothèses :
- - tu n'es pas root (d'où le « Permission denied ») ;
- - tu essaies de faire un chroot vers une infrastructure différente de
l'hôte (un chroot vers une 64 bits depuis une 32 bits par exemple).

 Comment l'upgrader vers Lenny, si cela est encore possible ?

Par étape : Sarge - Etch puis Etch - Lenny. Etch (oldstable) est
toujours sur les miroirs, donc tu n'as même pas besoin d'aller chercher
dans les archives. Pour faire les mises à jour de versions, tu suis les
notes de publication :

http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/releasenotes
http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/releasenotes

Amicalement

David

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PHP5 for Sarge

2009-11-23 Thread i
Hello debian-user,

  google failed, I can`t find any source with function packages PHP5
  for Sarge distribution.


  fleg

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Re: PHP5 for Sarge

2009-11-23 Thread Wayne

i wrote:

Hello debian-user,

  google failed, I can`t find any source with function packages PHP5
  for Sarge distribution.


Sarge is OLD.  Your best option id to upgrade, to etch, or the now 
stable lenny.


WT



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Re: debian sarge update mysql z 4.0.2 do 4.1

2009-08-11 Thread Robert Socha

Aleksander Kurczyk pisze:
Proponuję zamienić w /etc/apt/sources.list, wszystkie sarge na lenny, a 
następnie puścić aktualizację. Żeby uniknąć problemów, można na początek 
wpisać etch, a później lenny.
P.S. Nigdy nie pracowałem na sarge, więc niewiem jak się zachowa, ale 
robiłem aktualizacje etch do lennego (apache+php+mysql) i poszło bez 
problemów.



Witaj,

Po pierwsze przygotuj środowisko testowa i przeprowadź na nim próbny 
proces upgradu. (vmware, virtualbox, fizyczna maszyna etc.)


Jeśli na  tym serwerze masz dedykowaną aplikację to podnoszenie wersji 
dystrybucji może okazać sie katastrofalne. Aplikacja może nie działać z 
nowym glibc i nowym jądrem (upgrade ze standardowego sarge do lennegy 
pociąga za sobą instalację nowej wersji glibc, a to pociąga za sobą 
instalację nowego kernela). W pierwszej kolejności przeprowadź testy.


Jeśli chcesz podnieść wyłącznie serwer MySQL do nowszej wersji to być 
może najprostszym rozwiązaniem będzie kompilacja wymaganej przez Ciebie 
wersji MySQL ze źródeł. Skompilować możesz na maszynie wirtualnej i 
gotowe binarki przenieść na maszynę produkcyjną.


Na koniec powtórzę jeszcze raz bo moim zdaniem to podstawa sukcesu tej 
operacji:


Wykonaj testy w środowisku testowym :)


Pozdrawiam
Robert Socha


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debian sarge update mysql z 4.0.2 do 4.1

2009-08-10 Thread Paweł Bogaczewicz
Witam

mam potrzebę upgradu mysql do wersji 4.1 . problem jest taki że na serwerze
jest debian sarge, a aplikacja na nim jest dosyć ważna. nie mogę pozwolić
sobie na eksperymenty, to musi pójść za pierwszym razem.  czy warto
przeczytać (i zastosować) coś oprócz
http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/4.1/en/upgrading-from-previous-series.html ?
ktoś wykonywał taki upgrade i może się podzielić wrażeniami?

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Re: debian sarge update mysql z 4.0.2 do 4.1

2009-08-10 Thread Wojciech Ziniewicz
W dniu 10 sierpnia 2009 21:06 użytkownik Paweł Bogaczewicz
bogac...@gmail.com napisał:
 Witam

 mam potrzebę upgradu mysql do wersji 4.1 . problem jest taki że na serwerze
 jest debian sarge, a aplikacja na nim jest dosyć ważna. nie mogę pozwolić
 sobie na eksperymenty, to musi pójść za pierwszym razem.  czy warto
 przeczytać (i zastosować) coś oprócz
 http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/4.1/en/upgrading-from-previous-series.html ?
 ktoś wykonywał taki upgrade i może się podzielić wrażeniami?

to bylo tyle lat temu .
;)

opcja jest prosta - zrob backup, upgradnij , jak cos bedzie nie tak to wrocisz.


upewnij sie TYLKO ze silnik ktorego uzywa baza danych (pewnie masz
wersje 3.x) istnieje jeszcze w 4 bo pamietam ze cos tam zobsoletowali.

pozdr.


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Re: debian sarge update mysql z 4.0.2 do 4.1

2009-08-10 Thread Paweł Bogaczewicz
W dniu 10 sierpnia 2009 21:52 użytkownik Aleksander Kurczyk 
pin...@gmail.com napisał:

 ale robiłem aktualizacje etch do lennego (apache+php+mysql) i poszło bez
 problemów.


well, ja czytam na
http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/4.1/en/upgrade.htmlprzeżycia gościa
podnoszącego mysql z 5.0 do 5.1

(...) -- Now the fatal part: Embarked on reinstating MYSQL-python, dovecot,
php-mysql and perl-DBD-MySQL. Yum says all are dependent on mysql 5.0.45 .
After finding no guidance on this, I let yum proceed... whereupon yum
promptly UNinstalled 5.1 community client AND server (with no prompt or
warning).

Bottom line: the final sentence of this article It's a good idea to rebuild
and reinstall [Perl, PHP and Python modules]. Good idea You can't
proceed unless you uninstall them, and then where are the replacements that
are compatible? I realize that it's not the job of mysql to provide them,
but if upgrading MySQL results in no Perl, Python or PHP to interact with
it, perhaps something more helpful could be mentioned here.(...)

i jestem co najmniej niespokojny.




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Re: debian sarge update mysql z 4.0.2 do 4.1

2009-08-10 Thread Wojciech Ziniewicz
W dniu 10 sierpnia 2009 23:04 użytkownik Paweł Bogaczewicz
bogac...@gmail.com napisał:

 Bottom line: the final sentence of this article It's a good idea to rebuild
 and reinstall [Perl, PHP and Python modules]. Good idea You can't
 proceed unless you uninstall them, and then where are the replacements that
 are compatible? I realize that it's not the job of mysql to provide them,
 but if upgrading MySQL results in no Perl, Python or PHP to interact with
 it, perhaps something more helpful could be mentioned here.(...)


yum != apt-get
fedora lub cokolwiek w tym stylu != debian

ten komentarz odnosi sie do jakiejs innej dystrybucji  niz debian.
mozesz zawsze sprawdzic zaleznosci mysqla za pomoca apt-cache show
nazwa pakietu


podzr.

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Re: debian sarge update mysql z 4.0.2 do 4.1

2009-08-10 Thread Paweł Bogaczewicz
chcę zainstalować Sarge w virtualbox, zeby mieć na czym przećwiczyć. na
debian.org nie znajduję już sarge, google wskazuje różne linki, ale same
puste- nie ma pod nimi już plików. zna ktoś serwer gdzie lezą takie stare
iso?


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Re: debian sarge update mysql z 4.0.2 do 4.1

2009-08-10 Thread Rafał Konrad Pawłaszek

Paweł Bogaczewicz pisze:


chcę zainstalować Sarge w virtualbox, zeby mieć na czym przećwiczyć. 
na debian.org http://debian.org nie znajduję już sarge, google 
wskazuje różne linki, ale same puste- nie ma pod nimi już plików. zna 
ktoś serwer gdzie lezą takie stare iso

http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/index.en.html

Pozdrawiam,
Rafał


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upgrade Sarge - Etch - Lenny

2009-06-08 Thread Lisi Reisz
Is Etch still available in the standard repositories?  I.e. can I just change 
Sarge to etch, then etch to lenny in etc. in sources.list?

TIA

Lisi


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Re: upgrade Sarge - Etch - Lenny

2009-06-08 Thread Graham
On Mon, 8 Jun 2009 23:43:06 +0100
Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:

 Is Etch still available in the standard repositories?  I.e. can I
 just change Sarge to etch, then etch to lenny in etc. in sources.list?
 
 TIA

Yes, Etch is still available (use etch or oldstable in your
sources.list). If you upgrade from Sarge to Etch, then from that to
Lenny, make sure you read up the relevant release notes (first Etch's,
then after you've upgraded, Lenny's). Also read up on the relevant
erratas, too. It should be fine doing it in stages, but make sure you
read up first so that your transition is as smooth as it can be.


Graham


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Re: upgrade Sarge - Etch - Lenny

2009-06-08 Thread Steve Reilly
Lisi Reisz wrote:
 Is Etch still available in the standard repositories?  I.e. can I just change 
 Sarge to etch, then etch to lenny in etc. in sources.list?
 
 TIA
 
 Lisi
 
 
take a look here http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEtch  as far as i know
etch should be supported for a year after lenny was released.  i just
updated my etch server a couple weeks ago with no problems.


steve



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Problemas al actualizar sarge

2009-05-14 Thread J M
Buenas, tengo un servidor con debian sarge y veo que han cambiado los
repositorios de sarge a oldstable.
Para actualizar ahora qué tengo que hacer, ¿cambiar sólo en
/etc/apt/sources.list donde pone sarge por oldstable?.
Al hacer apt-get update  apt-get upgrade me da como resultado:
Err http://security.debian.org sarge/updates/main Packages
  404 Not Found [IP: 128.31.0.36 80]
Err http://security.debian.org sarge/updates/contrib Packages
  404 Not Found [IP: 128.31.0.36 80]
Fetched 1B in 1s (1B/s)
Failed to fetch
http://security.debian.org/dists/sarge/updates/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz404
Not Found [IP: 128.31.0.36 80]
Failed to fetch
http://security.debian.org/dists/sarge/updates/contrib/binary-i386/Packages.gz404
Not Found [IP: 128.31.0.36 80]


Muchas gracias.


Re: Problemas al actualizar sarge

2009-05-14 Thread Alberto Vicat

J M escribió:
Buenas, tengo un servidor con debian sarge y veo que han cambiado los 
repositorios de sarge a oldstable.
Para actualizar ahora qué tengo que hacer, ¿cambiar sólo en 
/etc/apt/sources.list donde pone sarge por oldstable?.

Al hacer apt-get update  apt-get upgrade me da como resultado:
Err http://security.debian.org sarge/updates/main Packages
  404 Not Found [IP: 128.31.0.36 80]
Err http://security.debian.org sarge/updates/contrib Packages
  404 Not Found [IP: 128.31.0.36 80]
Fetched 1B in 1s (1B/s)
Failed to fetch 
http://security.debian.org/dists/sarge/updates/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz 
404 Not Found [IP: 128.31.0.36 80]
Failed to fetch 
http://security.debian.org/dists/sarge/updates/contrib/binary-i386/Packages.gz 
404 Not Found [IP: 128.31.0.36 80]


Muchas gracias.


Si en tu sources.list usás los nombres propios de las versiones (..., 
Sarge, Etch, Lenny) estarán dirigidos a ellas en particular.
Si en cambio los nombrás por la clasificación (oldstable, stable, 
experimental, etc.) serán redirigidos cada vez que se libera una versión 
como estable.
Lo que ocurrió con Etch que pasó de stable a oldstable a partir de 
mediados de Febrero, en que Lenny es la stable.
Creo, pero solamente creo y no se bien porqué, la única que no cambia es 
Sid.

Alguien con más tiempo en Debian seguramente te lo explicará mejor.

Saludos



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Re: Problemas al actualizar sarge

2009-05-14 Thread Leonardo Vizcaya
 Buenas, tengo un servidor con debian sarge y veo que han cambiado los
 repositorios de sarge a oldstable.
 Para actualizar ahora qué tengo que hacer, ¿cambiar sólo en
 /etc/apt/sources.list donde pone sarge por oldstable?.
 Al hacer apt-get update  apt-get upgrade me da como resultado:
 Err http://security.debian.org sarge/updates/main Packages
  404 Not Found [IP: 128.31.0.36 80]
 Err http://security.debian.org sarge/updates/contrib Packages
  404 Not Found [IP: 128.31.0.36 80]
 Fetched 1B in 1s (1B/s)
 Failed to fetch
 http://security.debian.org/dists/sarge/updates/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz
 404 Not Found [IP: 128.31.0.36 80]
 Failed to fetch
 http://security.debian.org/dists/sarge/updates/contrib/binary-i386/Packages.gz
 404 Not Found [IP: 128.31.0.36 80]


Hola, el problema que se te esta presentando es porque los paquetes
que pertenecen a debian sarge ya
pasaron a permanecer en lo que se conoce como los archivos de Debian.

Esto lo solucionas editando tu source.list, comentando tus antiguos
repocitorios (todas las lineas), y colocando

deb http://archive.debian.org/debian-archive/debian/ sarge main contrib non-free

luego:

#aptitude update

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Re: De Sarge à Etch?

2009-05-05 Thread François Boisson
Le Sun,  3 May 2009 18:45:49 +0200 (CEST)
Alex PADOLY alex.pad...@laposte.net a écrit:

 Bonsoir à tous, 
 
 J'ai un serveur Linux (HP TC3100) avec une distribution Debian 3.1,
 l'avantage de cette distribution est sa stabilité. Je souhaiterai la faire
 évoluer, j'ai donc deux choix: 
 - mettre à jour uniquement les paquets installés sur le serveur; 
 - upgrader la distribution vers la version 4.0r2 dont j'ai les DVD
 
Il est impératif de commencer par installer le noyau 2.6.8 de la sarge, puis
udev et enfin de faire un upgrade classique (apt-get update, upgrade,
dist-upgrade).

François Boisson

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De Sarge à Etch?

2009-05-03 Thread Alex PADOLY
Bonsoir à tous, 

J'ai un serveur Linux (HP TC3100) avec une distribution Debian 3.1, l'avantage 
de cette distribution est sa stabilité.
Je souhaiterai la faire évoluer, j'ai donc deux choix: 
- mettre à jour uniquement les paquets installés sur le serveur; 
- upgrader la distribution vers la version 4.0r2 dont j'ai les DVD

Le disque système est sur sda et à l'aide de la commande dd j'ai un backup 
complet du disque système sur sdb.
Que me conseillez-vous sachant que je ne recherche pas la performance pure mais 
la stabilité, ce serveur sert de serveur de fichier, d'impression et fait 
office de routeur avec squid.

Pourriez-vous me décrire les étapes que je devrais suivre dans le cas d'une 
mise à jour du serveur?

Je vous remercie.
Alex PADOLY

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Re: De Sarge à Etch?

2009-05-03 Thread Alain Baeckeroot
Le 03/05/2009 à 18:45, Alex PADOLY a écrit :
 Bonsoir à tous, 
 
 J'ai un serveur Linux (HP TC3100) avec une distribution Debian 3.1, 
 l'avantage de cette distribution est sa stabilité.
 Je souhaiterai la faire évoluer, j'ai donc deux choix: 
 - mettre à jour uniquement les paquets installés sur le serveur; 
 - upgrader la distribution vers la version 4.0r2 dont j'ai les DVD
 
 Le disque système est sur sda et à l'aide de la commande dd j'ai un backup 
 complet du disque système sur sdb.
 Que me conseillez-vous sachant que je ne recherche pas la performance pure 
 mais la stabilité, ce serveur sert de serveur de fichier, d'impression et 
 fait office de routeur avec squid.
 
 Pourriez-vous me décrire les étapes que je devrais suivre dans le cas d'une 
 mise à jour du serveur?
 
 Je vous remercie.
 Alex PADOLY
 
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  1 Go d'espace de stockage, anti-spam et anti-virus intégrés.
 

en anglais :
http://wiki.debian.org/Sarge2EtchUpgrade

normalement (après avoir fait un backup), mettre etch au lieu de
sarge dans /etc/apt/sources/list
puis 
aptitude update
aptitude upgrade
et hop c'est fini, mais mieux vaut lire la doc et les release-note avant,
si ca plante je n'y suis pour rien ;-)

Alain

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Re: De Sarge à Etch?

2009-05-03 Thread Pascal Hambourg

Salut,

Alex PADOLY a écrit :


J'ai un serveur Linux (HP TC3100) avec une distribution Debian 3.1,
l'avantage de cette distribution est sa stabilité.


Je n'ai pas souvenir que sarge ait été plus (ou moins) stable que les 
versions suivantes (ou précédentes). En revanche sarge n'étant plus 
maintenue depuis belle lurette, elle contient à coup sûr des versions de 
logiciels ayant des vulnérabilité connues.


Je souhaiterai la faire évoluer, j'ai donc deux choix: 
- mettre à jour uniquement les paquets installés sur le serveur; 
- upgrader la distribution vers la version 4.0r2 dont j'ai les DVD


Je ne vois pas trop la différence entre les deux. Dans tous les cas on 
ne met à jour que les paquets installés (avec éventuellement 
installation de nouveaux paquets pour satisfaire aux dépendances des 
nouvelles versions des paquets).



Pourriez-vous me décrire les étapes que je devrais suivre dans le cas
d'une mise à jour du serveur?


Les grandes lignes sont là :
http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/i386/release-notes/ch-upgrading.fr.html

Mais quitte à mettre à jour, pourquoi s'arrêter à etch qui est 
aujourd'hui l'ancienne stable, et qui ne sera plus maintenue dans moins 
d'un an ? Ceci dit, je ne sais pas s'il est sage de sauter deux versions 
et passer directement de sarge à lenny ou s'il vaut mieux passer par 
etch temporairement.


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Re: De Sarge à Etch?

2009-05-03 Thread François Cerbelle

Alex PADOLY a écrit :
Pourriez-vous me décrire les étapes que je devrais suivre dans le cas 
d'une mise à jour du serveur?


Salut,

Je suis à peu près dans le même cas que toi professionnellement, mais je 
n'envisage pas une mise a jour car le serveur est un serveur interne et 
que les fonctionnalités qu'il propose sont suffisantes pour l'instant. 
Je ne le mettrai à jour que si j'ai vraiment besoin de changer/installer 
plusieurs paquets d'un coup. Au pire, je ferai peut etre une 
installation toute fraiche a coté, je la testerai et je transfererai les 
données.


Peut etre n'as tu pas les mêmes contraintes de mise à jour que moi.

Si tu as peur de tout basculer d'un coup, tu peux toujours selectionner 
les paquets à mettre à jour un par un, mais ca te demandera plus de 
temps et sera à coup sûr plus risqué. En plus, tu risques de ne pas 
bénéficier du marquage magique automatique des paquets par aptitude si 
tu les selectionnes un par un.


Si tu n'as pas de configuration trop tordue ou de paquets 
patchés/recompilés, ca devrait aller tout seul, surtout si tu n'as pas 
trop de paquets. Dans tous les cas, commence par vérifier que tu peux 
bien restaurer la sauvegarde sur un disque et qu'elle est bien complete 
(il pourrait manquer la table de partition, le MBR ou encore le secteur 
de boot d'une partition). La verification prend un peu de temps, mais ce 
n'est rien comparé au temps que tu pourrais perdre si ta sauvegarde 
etait incomplete. Ensuite, à ta place, j'éviterai de sauter deux 
versions d'un coup. Enfin, il faudra peut etre que tu installes cron-apt 
car si les mises à jour de sarge sont terminées, celles de lenny ne font 
que commencer. ;-)


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Re: De Sarge à Etch?

2009-05-03 Thread Alain Baeckeroot
Le 03/05/2009 à 21:34, Pascal Hambourg a écrit :
 
 Salut,
 
 Alex PADOLY a écrit :

  Je souhaiterai la faire évoluer, j'ai donc deux choix: 
  - mettre à jour uniquement les paquets installés sur le serveur; 
  - upgrader la distribution vers la version 4.0r2 dont j'ai les DVD
 
 Je ne vois pas trop la différence entre les deux. Dans tous les cas on 
 ne met à jour que les paquets installés (avec éventuellement 
 installation de nouveaux paquets pour satisfaire aux dépendances des 
 nouvelles versions des paquets).
 
  Pourriez-vous me décrire les étapes que je devrais suivre dans le cas
  d'une mise à jour du serveur?
 
 Les grandes lignes sont là :
 http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/i386/release-notes/ch-upgrading.fr.html
 
 Mais quitte à mettre à jour, pourquoi s'arrêter à etch qui est 
 aujourd'hui l'ancienne stable, et qui ne sera plus maintenue dans moins 
 d'un an ? Ceci dit, je ne sais pas s'il est sage de sauter deux versions 
 et passer directement de sarge à lenny ou s'il vaut mieux passer par 
 etch temporairement.
 
en étant très précautionneux
D'abord  mettre a jour de sarge vers la dernière sarge disponible
 Dans /etc/apt/source.list mettre :
 deb http://archive.debian.org/debian-archive/ sarge main contrib non-free 

ou sinon graver un dvd et faire la maj depuis le dvd
 Dans /etc/apt/source.list:
 deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 3.1 r4 _Sarge_ - Official i386 Binary-2 
(20061116)]/ main contrib non-free

puis seulement ensuite faire la mise jour vers etch, tant qu'a faire
utiliser la dernière etch a jour 4.0r8.

puis éventuellement mettre a jour vers lenny, mais c'est moins urgent
car etch est encore maintenu qq temps.

Il me semble qu'il faut passer par les distributions intermédiaires
(sarge -  etch - lenny et ne pas sauter de version afin de garantir
une mise a jour sans soucis.

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Comment de passer un serveur de sarge en lenny

2009-04-29 Thread Stéphane GAUDICHE

Bonjour,
mon entreprise possède un certain nombre de serveur en sarge, d'autres 
en etch.
Je me demande comment gérer ces décalages / sauts de versions pour les 
mettre à jour en lenny.


En test, j'ai installé une Sarge à partir d'un CD, install° minimal.
lancé un apt-get update puis apt-get dist-upgrade
j'ai trituré le sources.list mais cela n'a pas été très fructueux.

pour les plus avisés d'entre-vous,
Pourriez-vous m'aider à structurer mon problème de mise à jour de serveur
en me posant des questions?
---srv-1---

   srv-1:~# cat /etc/apt/sources.list
   deb http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ sarge main 
   deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US sarge/non-US main


   deb http://security.debian.org/ sarge/updates main
   srv-1:~# uname -a
   Linux srv-1 2.4.27-2-686-smp #1 SMP Mon May 16 16:55:31 JST 2005
   i686 GNU/Linux

---srv-2---

   svr-2:~# cat /etc/apt/sources.list
   #deb file:///cdrom/ sarge main

   deb http://ftp2.fr.debian.org/debian/ stable main
   deb-src http://ftp2.fr.debian.org/debian/ stable main

   deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main
   srv-2:~# uname -a
   Linux srv-2 2.4.27-2-686-smp #1 SMP Mon May 16 16:55:31 JST 2005
   i686 GNU/Linux

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Re: Comment de passer un serveur de sarge en lenny

2009-04-29 Thread Jordi Montanard

Stéphane GAUDICHE a écrit :

Bonjour,
mon entreprise possède un certain nombre de serveur en sarge, d'autres 
en etch.
Je me demande comment gérer ces décalages / sauts de versions pour les 
mettre à jour en lenny.


Passe en premier lieu tes serveurs Sarge en Etch puis l'ensemble de tes 
serveurs Etch en Lenny.



En test, j'ai installé une Sarge à partir d'un CD, install° minimal.
lancé un apt-get update puis apt-get dist-upgrade
j'ai trituré le sources.list mais cela n'a pas été très fructueux.

pour les plus avisés d'entre-vous,
Pourriez-vous m'aider à structurer mon problème de mise à jour de serveur
en me posant des questions?
---srv-1---

   srv-1:~# cat /etc/apt/sources.list
   deb http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ sarge maindeb 
http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US sarge/non-US main


   deb http://security.debian.org/ sarge/updates main
   srv-1:~# uname -a
   Linux srv-1 2.4.27-2-686-smp #1 SMP Mon May 16 16:55:31 JST 2005
   i686 GNU/Linux

---srv-2---

   svr-2:~# cat /etc/apt/sources.list
   #deb file:///cdrom/ sarge main

   deb http://ftp2.fr.debian.org/debian/ stable main
   deb-src http://ftp2.fr.debian.org/debian/ stable main

   deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main
   srv-2:~# uname -a
   Linux srv-2 2.4.27-2-686-smp #1 SMP Mon May 16 16:55:31 JST 2005
   i686 GNU/Linux

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Re: Comment de passer un serveur de sarge en lenny

2009-04-29 Thread François Boisson
Le Wed, 29 Apr 2009 18:02:03 +0200
Stéphane GAUDICHE stephane.gaudi...@esc-rennes.fr a écrit:

 Bonjour,
 mon entreprise possède un certain nombre de serveur en sarge, d'autres 
 en etch.
 Je me demande comment gérer ces décalages / sauts de versions pour les 
 mettre à jour en lenny.
 
 En test, j'ai installé une Sarge à partir d'un CD, install° minimal.
 lancé un apt-get update puis apt-get dist-upgrade
 j'ai trituré le sources.list mais cela n'a pas été très fructueux.
 
 pour les plus avisés d'entre-vous,
 Pourriez-vous m'aider à structurer mon problème de mise à jour de serveur
 en me posant des questions?
 ---srv-1---
 
 srv-1:~# cat /etc/apt/sources.list
 deb http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ sarge main 
 deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US sarge/non-US main
 
 deb http://security.debian.org/ sarge/updates main
 srv-1:~# uname -a
 Linux srv-1 2.4.27-2-686-smp #1 SMP Mon May 16 16:55:31 JST 2005
 i686 GNU/Linux
 [..]

Bon le principal problème est le noyau.

Je suggère la chose suivante:
1) Backup des données essentielles
2) Ecriture de
deb http://archive.debian.org/debian/ sarge main contrib non-free
dans le sources.list
puis
# apt-get update
# apt-get dist-upgrade
(vérification que tout va bien, pas ou peu changements sans doute)
# apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.8-4-686 
(architecture à adapter, 686-SMP ou amd64).
vérification que tout fonctionne, puis si ça n'a pas été fait
# apt-get install udev
(c'est l'un des gros changement, passage de hotplug à udev)

Là bien vérifier que les périphériques sont bien reconnus au départ, les
messages au boot seront beaucoup plus courts. udev est une véritable
révolution.

3) Si tout va bien, passage à etch:
Ecriture de

deb http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian etch main contrib non-free

dans le source.list
# apt-get update
# apt-get upgrade (facultatif mais bon...)
# apt-get dist-upgrade
avec vérification que tout marche bien. Seul souci à prévoir, le passage de
XFree86 à Xorg qui peut poser souci, quelques soucis dans le noms des disques
(hd-sd souvent) et changement de noms de certaines interfaces réseaux
(éditer /etc/udev/rules.d/-persistent-net.rules)
Vérifier l'installation du noyau (2.6.18)
4) Passage à lenny
deb http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ lenny main contrib non-free
dans le sources.list et même manoeuvre. Penser à installer le noyau.

5) Rajout de
deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main contrib non-free
deb http://ftp.ens-cachan.fr/ftp/debian-volatile lenny/volatile main contrib

et apt-get update
apt-get upgrade.

Voilà, ça devrait bien se passer. Mais il y aura des impondérables sans
doute...

François Boisson

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Re: howto: downgrade lenny-sarge -or- fresh sarge install?

2009-04-19 Thread tom campbell
On Sat, 2009-04-18 at 13:58 +0200, Sven Joachim wrote:
snip
 Just out of curiosity: do you intend to open a museum of modern
 software, or why else do you want to install sarge?

:)  I'm doing some embedded development on an arm board that ships with
sarge and wanted a desktop up to plow around and look at files,
experiment with packages in a friendly, slightly more stable
environment.


snip

 Your best bet is probably to set up a sarge chroot with debootstrap,

Worked like a champ!
Thanks so much.
I continue to be impressed with debian.

tc



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howto: downgrade lenny-sarge -or- fresh sarge install?

2009-04-18 Thread tom campbell
Hello all:

Seeking some guidance on how to get a sarge install up on a x86 desktop.
There aren't any hardware issues, lenny installs fine from CD+net.

I tried booting from debian-sarge-3.1-mini.iso (downloaded from sarge
archive).  I manually adusted the mirrors to point to
archive.debian.org/debian-archive.debian. and installer found the
Releases file.

When it hit the installer page of which...? stable, unstable... it
couldn't find the files (presumably because directory structure changed
when it was archived).  I couldn't find a way to manually tell it files
to install.

I did a full of install of lenny (which is now up).

Anyone have any suggestions on how to:
downgrade the running lenny  -or-
how to install sarge directly?

any pointers appreciated.

I'm an experienced linux user, but new to Debian.  I'm coming from rpm
world of Fedora/RedHat/Centos so I'm new to apt,synaptic et all also.

BTW I certainly like everything I see so far about debian.  The
developers certainly appear to get it

thanks in advance
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Re: howto: downgrade lenny-sarge -or- fresh sarge install?

2009-04-18 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2009-04-18 11:35 +0200, tom campbell wrote:

 Seeking some guidance on how to get a sarge install up on a x86 desktop.
 There aren't any hardware issues, lenny installs fine from CD+net.

Just out of curiosity: do you intend to open a museum of modern
software, or why else do you want to install sarge?

 I tried booting from debian-sarge-3.1-mini.iso (downloaded from sarge
 archive).  I manually adusted the mirrors to point to
 archive.debian.org/debian-archive.debian. and installer found the
 Releases file.

 When it hit the installer page of which...? stable, unstable... it
 couldn't find the files (presumably because directory structure changed
 when it was archived).  I couldn't find a way to manually tell it files
 to install.

The reason is probably that there aren't any {{old,,un}stable,testing}
symlinks on archive.debian.org; it would be unclear to which
distributions they should point anyway.

 I did a full of install of lenny (which is now up).

 Anyone have any suggestions on how to:
   downgrade the running lenny  -or-
   how to install sarge directly?

 any pointers appreciated.

Your best bet is probably to set up a sarge chroot with debootstrap,
i.e. with the command

# debootstrap sarge ./sarge-chroot http://archive.debian.org/debian

If that works, you can chroot to that basic installation and install
more software.  Note that setting up fstab and networking, installing a
kernel and a bootloader still needs to be done if you want to boot into
sarge; and you need an extra partition then as well.

Sven


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Re: Problème sur backuppc sous debian sarge (backuppc's problem on debian)

2009-02-25 Thread bruno

KOUAO aketchi wrote:

Bonjour,
 
Depuis quelques jours, nous avons un problème sur notre serveur 
backuppc sous debian sarge , en effet, nous ne savons pour quelle 
raison la partition / est montée jusqu'à 86% et la partition de 
sauvegarde /backup est quant à elle à 97% . Nous avons essayé de 
chercher les raisons de cette montée surtout pour la partition / , 
nous n'avons pour le moment pas trouvé. Pourriez svp avoir quelques 
pistes pour désarmorcer cela.

Nous serions reconnaissants de votre aide.
Merci et A bientôt.
 
Hello,
We have some problems with our backuppc server on debian sarge . We 
don't know the reason why the partition /  is growing up 86%. and the 
partition of data /backup also to 97% (perhaps due to the volume of 
stored data) . The main problem is how to make down the  partition /  
( before , this partition is about 16%). Could you give us some ideas 
in order to help us. Thanks a lot . 




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Re: Migrando de Debian sarge para Debian etch

2009-02-13 Thread Sávio M. Ramos
Em Mon, 9 Feb 2009 12:15:24 -0400
Flávio Barros flaviobar...@gmail.com escreveu:

 Alguém tem um passo a passo que seja seguro ?

Não tenho experiência no assunto. Mas, quando instalo a estável e
atualizo para a instável a primeira coisa que atualizo é o núcleo.

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Re: Migrando de Debian sarge para Debian etch

2009-02-13 Thread linuser
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 07:10:00 -0200
Sávio M. Ramos savio.deb...@gmail.com wrote:

 Em Mon, 9 Feb 2009 12:15:24 -0400
 Flávio Barros flaviobar...@gmail.com escreveu:
 
  Alguém tem um passo a passo que seja seguro ?
 
 Não tenho experiência no assunto. Mas, quando instalo a estável e
 atualizo para a instável a primeira coisa que atualizo é o núcleo.
 
Acho boa a sugestão.
Até hoje fiz duas atualizações: a primeira, direta (apt-get dist-upgrade). Tive 
alguns milhões de problemas (vejam o que é a inexperiência!). Na segunda, 
atualizei primeiramente o kernel e depois o resto. Rolou direitinho.

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Migrando de Debian sarge para Debian etch

2009-02-09 Thread Flávio Barros
Alguém tem um passo a passo que seja seguro ?


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Re: Migrando de Debian sarge para Debian etch

2009-02-09 Thread Fabiano Pires
On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Flávio Barros flaviobar...@gmail.comwrote:

 Alguém tem um passo a passo que seja seguro ?



Da ultima vez fiz um dist-upgrade que funcionou sem problema, mas YMMV. Um
backupinho e uma janela larga de manutenção (se possível) ajuda. Por outro
lado, passou uma mensagem por aqui dizendo que o Lenny deve passar a estável
em um mês. Porque não agurada mais um pouco?


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Re: Migrando de Debian sarge para Debian etch

2009-02-09 Thread Tiago Saboga
On Mon, Feb 09, 2009 at 04:11:24PM -0200, Fabiano Pires wrote:
 On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Flávio Barros flaviobar...@gmail.comwrote:
 
  Alguém tem um passo a passo que seja seguro ?
 
 
 
 Da ultima vez fiz um dist-upgrade que funcionou sem problema, mas YMMV. Um
 backupinho e uma janela larga de manutenção (se possível) ajuda. Por outro
 lado, passou uma mensagem por aqui dizendo que o Lenny deve passar a estável
 em um mês. Porque não agurada mais um pouco?

Normalmente, não é recomendado pular versões, de modo que talvez seja
melhor fazer logo o upgrade para o etch, dar um tempo para ver se dá
algum problema (corrigi-los se for o caso) e aí sim passar para o
lenny. Não?

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Re: Migrando de Debian sarge para Debian etch

2009-02-09 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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On 09-02-2009 14:15, Flávio Barros wrote:
 Alguém tem um passo a passo que seja seguro ?

http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/releasenotes


Que dentro de alguns dias passará a ser oldstable, já que
a meta atual é lançar o Debian em 14.fevereiro, nesta ocasião,
o link acima apontará para as Notas de Lançamento do Lenny. :)

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Re: Migrando de Debian sarge para Debian etch

2009-02-09 Thread Flávio Barros
Acho que seria melhor ir subindo a escala. Do sarge pro Etch e depois do
Etch pro Lenny. Posso está errado.
Pensei no dist-upgrade mas tenho receio pois o servidor em questão é de
produção.

Abraços,


2009/2/9 Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) f...@funlabs.org

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  Alguém tem um passo a passo que seja seguro ?

 http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/releasenotes


 Que dentro de alguns dias passará a ser oldstable, já que
 a meta atual é lançar o Debian em 14.fevereiro, nesta ocasião,
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Re: Migrando de Debian sarge para Debian etch

2009-02-09 Thread Nicholas Amorim
aptitude safe-upgrade ?

depois de efetuado cmo sucesso.. .aptitude full-upgrade.

Se é um servidor de produção eu faria isso.

2009/2/9 Flávio Barros flaviobar...@gmail.com

 Acho que seria melhor ir subindo a escala. Do sarge pro Etch e depois do
 Etch pro Lenny. Posso está errado.
 Pensei no dist-upgrade mas tenho receio pois o servidor em questão é de
 produção.

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 http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/releasenotes


 Que dentro de alguns dias passará a ser oldstable, já que
 a meta atual é lançar o Debian em 14.fevereiro, nesta ocasião,
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Re: Migrando de Debian sarge para Debian etch

2009-02-09 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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On 09-02-2009 17:51, Flávio Barros wrote:
 Acho que seria melhor ir subindo a escala. 
 Do sarge pro Etch e depois do Etch pro Lenny.

Sim, é melhor migrar do Sarge pro Etch e depois do Etch pro Lenny.


 Posso está errado. 
 Pensei no dist-upgrade mas tenho receio pois o servidor em questão é de
 produção. 

Você não leu o link que eu mandei, leu?

Ele explica como atualizar do Sarge pro Etch. :)

E dentro de alguns dias você encontrará documentação sobre como
migrar do Etch pro Lenny.

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Re: Migrando de Debian sarge para Debian etch

2009-02-09 Thread Flávio Barros
Vou ler Felipe.
Abraços,


2009/2/9 Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) f...@funlabs.org

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  Acho que seria melhor ir subindo a escala.
  Do sarge pro Etch e depois do Etch pro Lenny.

 Sim, é melhor migrar do Sarge pro Etch e depois do Etch pro Lenny.


  Posso está errado.
  Pensei no dist-upgrade mas tenho receio pois o servidor em questão é de
  produção.

 Você não leu o link que eu mandei, leu?

Ele explica como atualizar do Sarge pro Etch. :)

E dentro de alguns dias você encontrará documentação sobre como
 migrar do Etch pro Lenny.

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Problème sur backuppc sous debian sarge (backuppc's problem on debian)

2009-02-06 Thread KOUAO aketchi
Bonjour,
 
Depuis quelques jours, nous avons un problème sur notre serveur backuppc sous 
debian sarge , en effet, nous ne savons pour quelle raison la partition / est 
montée jusqu'à 86% et la partition de sauvegarde /backup est quant à elle à 97% 
. Nous avons essayé de chercher les raisons de cette montée surtout pour la 
partition / , nous n'avons pour le moment pas trouvé. Pourriez svp avoir 
quelques pistes pour désarmorcer cela.
Nous serions reconnaissants de votre aide.
Merci et A bientôt.
 
Hello, 
We have some problems with our backuppc server on debian sarge . We don't know 
the reason why the partition /  is growing up 86%. and the partition of data 
/backup also to 97% (perhaps due to the volume of stored data) . The main 
problem is how to make down the  partition /  ( before , this partition is 
about 16%). Could you give us some ideas in order to help us. Thanks a lot . 


  
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mirroir debian sarge

2008-12-11 Thread Anthony
bonjour,

je ne parviens plus a trouver le mirroir officiel sarge.
A t-il été supprimé, ou deplacé ?
Nous avons encore des machines en sarge...

merci

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Re: mirroir debian sarge

2008-12-11 Thread François Cerbelle
Le Jeu 11 décembre 2008 15:59, Anthony a écrit :
 je ne parviens plus a trouver le mirroir officiel sarge.
 A t-il été supprimé, ou deplacé ?
 Nous avons encore des machines en sarge...

Salut Anthony,

Voici la question à poser à Google :
http://www.google.fr/search?q=debian+archivesie=utf-8oe=utf-8aq=trls=org.mozilla:fr:officialclient=firefox-a

Voici le premier résultat :
http://www.debian.org/distrib/archive.fr.html

Ca devrait te rassurer par rapport à tes sarges encore en vie. ;-)

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Re: mirroir debian sarge

2008-12-11 Thread David Prévot
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Anthony a écrit :
 bonjour,

Bonjour,

 je ne parviens plus a trouver le mirroir officiel sarge.
 A t-il été supprimé, ou deplacé ?

Déplacé sur archive.debian.org, effectivement (et n'est plus suivie par
l'équipe de sécurité au passage).

Amicalement

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Re: mirroir debian sarge

2008-12-11 Thread Daniel Caillibaud

Anthony a écrit :

bonjour,

je ne parviens plus a trouver le mirroir officiel sarge.
A t-il été supprimé, ou deplacé ?


Déplacé, cela a été annoncé sur debian-news-french le 3/11.


Debian GNU/Linux 3.1 « Sarge » a été deplacé des miroirs habituels vers 
archive.debian.org.


http://lists.debian.org/debian-mirrors-announce/2008/11/msg0.html


Nous avons encore des machines en sarge...


Sarge n'est plus supporté, donc machines à surveiller de près (vérifier les failles sécu, je pense à bind et ssh surtout, mais pas seulement), et à 
patcher à la main éventuellement, à moins qu'elles ne soient sur un LAN sûr et bien protégé. (c'est la dernière faille bind qui m'a poussé à 
accélérer le renouvellement du parc).


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Re: mirroir debian sarge

2008-12-11 Thread François Boisson
Le Thu, 11 Dec 2008 17:24:28 +0100
Daniel Caillibaud m...@editionsdidier.com a écrit:

 patcher à la main éventuellement, à moins qu'elles ne soient sur un LAN
 sûr et bien protégé. (c'est la dernière faille bind qui m'a poussé à
 accélérer le renouvellement du parc).

J'ai fait un backport de bind9 pour sarge pour régler ce problème là, il se
trouve sur

deb http://boisson.homeip.net/debian sarge divers

(Il n'est pas toujours possible de basculer un serveur en prod)

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mirroir debian sarge

2008-12-11 Thread Anthony
bonjour,

je ne parviens plus a trouver le mirroir officiel sarge.
A t-il été supprimé, ou deplacé ?
Nous avons encore des machines en sarge...

merci


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Re: mirroir debian sarge

2008-12-11 Thread François Cerbelle
Le Jeu 11 décembre 2008 15:59, Anthony a écrit :
 je ne parviens plus a trouver le mirroir officiel sarge.
 A t-il été supprimé, ou deplacé ?
 Nous avons encore des machines en sarge...

Salut Anthony,

Voici la question à poser à Google :
http://www.google.fr/search?q=debian+archivesie=utf-8oe=utf-8aq=trls=org.mozilla:fr:officialclient=firefox-a

Voici le premier résultat :
http://www.debian.org/distrib/archive.fr.html

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Re: mirroir debian sarge

2008-12-11 Thread subscriptions
On Thu, 2008-12-11 at 15:59 +0100, Anthony wrote:
 
 bonjour,
 
 je ne parviens plus a trouver le mirroir officiel sarge.
 A t-il été supprimé, ou deplacé ?
 Nous avons encore des machines en sarge...
 
 merci

Bonjour,

Je ne connais pas la réponse, mais si vous poser la question en anglais,
vous obtenez plus de réponses. 

Salut

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any sarge repository?

2008-11-27 Thread Angel L. Mateo
Hello,

We need to install some packages in an old sarge server. It seems that
debian doesn't have this repository online. Is there any sarge
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Re: any sarge repository?

2008-11-27 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
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Angel L. Mateo wrote:
   We need to install some packages in an old sarge server. It seems that
 debian doesn't have this repository online. Is there any sarge
 repository online?

Googling the last two words of your subject should get you:

http://archive.debian.org/

Cheers,

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[OT] Re: sarge, aptitude, archives

2008-11-25 Thread s. keeling
jeremy bentham [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  I can only plead that as a recent emigre from slackware land, I
  became dazzled by Debian's slick package-management system and
  began to expect it to read my mind.

Have you looked at Zenwalk?  It's a SW downstream, and its netpkg
rivals apt for dazzle factor.  Fits on a ca. 2 Gb disk, and they've a
live version CD you can try.


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dépot Sarge/old-stable

2008-11-24 Thread Jean-Michel Schelcher
Bonjour à tous,

j'ai un vieux serveur autonome qui tourne encore avec une Sarge. J'ai voulu
installer un paquet mais malheureusement, il semble que tout ce qui touche à
Sarge à disparu des dépots Debian.

Par ailleurs, je n'ai pas prévu de faire la mise à jour vers Etch ou Lenny de
cette machine (noyau 2.4 spécifique, etc.).

Donc question: existe t'il encore un dépot Sarge quelque part ? Ou quelle autre
solution me proposez-vous, hors màj ?

merci,

Jean-Michel

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Re: dépot Sarge/old-stable

2008-11-24 Thread François Cerbelle
Le Lun 24 novembre 2008 16:16, Jean-Michel Schelcher a écrit :
 Donc question: existe t'il encore un dépot Sarge quelque part ? Ou quelle
 autre solution me proposez-vous, hors màj ?

Salut,

Essaye de jeter un oeil sur cette page :

http://www.debian.org/distrib/archive.fr.html

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Re: dépo t Sarge/old-stable

2008-11-24 Thread Jean-Michel Schelcher
On 24/11 16:27, François Cerbelle  wrote :
 Le Lun 24 novembre 2008 16:16, Jean-Michel Schelcher a écrit :
  Donc question: existe t'il encore un dépot Sarge quelque part ? Ou quelle
  autre solution me proposez-vous, hors màj ?
 
 Essaye de jeter un oeil sur cette page :
 
 http://www.debian.org/distrib/archive.fr.html

ah ben nickel !
Merci :-)

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Re: sarge, aptitude, archives

2008-11-19 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mon,17.Nov.08, 19:32:42, jeremy bentham wrote:

   My sources.list
 
   deb http://archive.debian.org/debian-archive/ sarge main contrib non-free
 
   per the README at the archive site.
 
  That README is wrong, since there is no debian-archive directory on
  archive.debian.org, only a debian directory.  This has already been
  reported: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=505754.
 
  So you just need to s/debian-archive/debian/ in your sources.list.
 
 Alas, that was the first thing I tried--well,
 s/archive.debian.org/http.us.deb.org/.
 
 Suppose I should have put that in my first post [-; .

I think you misunderstood, the correct line would be

deb http://archive.debian.org/debian/ sarge main contrib non-free

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Re: tardy sarge to etch upgrade proceedure

2008-11-19 Thread Nate Duehr

Mark Copper wrote:


Economics aside, I am still amazed after all these years at the power
free software has provided to the ordinary person.  No university or
corporation needed; just read and ask questions.  Cool.


And in what way does a GOOD closed-source software vendor break that?

I've worked with plenty of closed-source applications and OS's over the 
years who's creators encouraged reading their excellent documentation 
and asking questions, and answered them.  MS isn't one of them, but they 
are out there.


It's not just an open-source phenomenon.  It's a Customer Service and 
QUALITY phenomenon.


Start using WindRiver, Microware, or Green Hills software and give them 
a call with a real programming problem, and see how they respond, for 
example.


Even the Solaris team at Sun Microsystems, HP-UX team within HP, and the 
AIX team at IBM are all more responsive than MS about things.


Claiming this transparency or power for the end-user wasn't there 
before open-source is disingenuous.  Plenty of GREAT closed-source OS 
and application vendors out here still.  The hype/religious experience 
of open-source notwithstanding...


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Re: sarge, aptitude, archives

2008-11-19 Thread jeremy bentham
On Nov 19 you wrote:

 On Mon,17.Nov.08, 19:32:42, jeremy bentham wrote:

My sources.list

deb http://archive.debian.org/debian-archive/ sarge main contrib 
non-free

per the README at the archive site.

   That README is wrong, since there is no debian-archive directory on
   archive.debian.org, only a debian directory.  This has already been
   reported: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=505754.

   So you just need to s/debian-archive/debian/ in your sources.list.

  Alas, that was the first thing I tried--well,
  s/archive.debian.org/http.us.deb.org/.

  Suppose I should have put that in my first post [-; .

 I think you misunderstood, the correct line would be

 deb http://archive.debian.org/debian/ sarge main contrib non-free

I see I didn't put that very well; no matter.  I got the line
right.  My problem was simply not understanding aptitude.

After getting those error messages I merely needed to press
return, then u, select become root, type root's password
and watch the progress bar

I can only plead that as a recent emigre from slackware land, I
became dazzled by Debian's slick package-management system and
began to expect it to read my mind.

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Why sarge? (was:) sarge, aptitude, archives

2008-11-19 Thread jeremy bentham
On Nov 19 s. keeling wrote:

 jeremy bentham [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

   Please, no {advice, orders} to upgrade to etch.  Consider this a
   question about aptitude/sources.list/archives.

That does look kind of trollish.  Sorry.  Post in haste, repent
at leisure.

 Fine.  Why would you expect Sarge to work anymore?  Just curious.

Laziness.  Fear.

I have _never_ done an upgrade that didn't break something,
and after lurking here for a while I suspect that udev and
x.org would have me thrashing about for several days.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it:  sarge works for my simple
needs, and I'll probably stick with it until progress breaks
something _I_ use.

Or until my hardware fails and I have to go with a new
install anyway.  Given the age of my stuff, that's the most
likely scenario.

If the gift CDs I used to install Debian had been buzz, I'd probably
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Re: Why sarge?

2008-11-19 Thread Ron Johnson

On 11/19/08 22:02, jeremy bentham wrote:

On Nov 19 s. keeling wrote:


jeremy bentham [EMAIL PROTECTED]:



 Please, no {advice, orders} to upgrade to etch.  Consider this a
 question about aptitude/sources.list/archives.


That does look kind of trollish.  Sorry.  Post in haste, repent
at leisure.


Fine.  Why would you expect Sarge to work anymore?  Just curious.


Laziness.  Fear.


I must not fear.
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing.
Only Geeky Hardware Hacking will remain.


I have _never_ done an upgrade that didn't break something,
and after lurking here for a while I suspect that udev and
x.org would have me thrashing about for several days.


You never tried *ix either, until the first time you tried it.

It was weird, and none of the command qualifiers had any 
commonality.  But, by making mistakes, you learned and adjusted.



If it ain't broke, don't fix it:  sarge works for my simple
needs, and I'll probably stick with it until progress breaks
something _I_ use.

Or until my hardware fails and I have to go with a new
install anyway.  Given the age of my stuff, that's the most
likely scenario.

If the gift CDs I used to install Debian had been buzz, I'd probably
be sticking with _that_.


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Re: sarge, aptitude, archives

2008-11-18 Thread s. keeling
jeremy bentham [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  Please, no {advice, orders} to upgrade to etch.  Consider this a
  question about aptitude/sources.list/archives.

Fine.  Why would you expect Sarge to work anymore?  Just curious.


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sarge, aptitude, archives

2008-11-17 Thread jeremy bentham
I can't use aptitude anymore.

It was working, pre-sarge-archive.

Typing aptitude on the command line gives me this:

W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.debian.org sarge/main
Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.debian.org_debian-archive_dists_sarge_
main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.debian.org sarge/contrib
Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.debian.org_debian-archive_dists_sarge
_contrib_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.debian.org sarge/non-free
Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.debian.org_debian-archive_dists_sarge
_non-free_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)

(That's 3 _long_ lines; I broke them up for e-mail convenience.)

My sources.list

deb http://archive.debian.org/debian-archive/ sarge main contrib non-free

per the README at the archive site.

My /var/lib/apt/lists contains line referring to http.us.debian.org
[...]; I tried moving the directory out of the way (renaming it) but
no joy.

Please, no {advice, orders} to upgrade to etch.  Consider this a
question about aptitude/sources.list/archives.

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Re: sarge, aptitude, archives

2008-11-17 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2008-11-17 23:44 +0100, jeremy bentham wrote:

 I can't use aptitude anymore.

 It was working, pre-sarge-archive.

 Typing aptitude on the command line gives me this:

 W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.debian.org sarge/main
 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.debian.org_debian-archive_dists_sarge_
 main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
 W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.debian.org sarge/contrib
 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.debian.org_debian-archive_dists_sarge
 _contrib_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
 W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.debian.org sarge/non-free
 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.debian.org_debian-archive_dists_sarge
 _non-free_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)

 (That's 3 _long_ lines; I broke them up for e-mail convenience.)

 My sources.list

 deb http://archive.debian.org/debian-archive/ sarge main contrib non-free

 per the README at the archive site.

That README is wrong, since there is no debian-archive directory on
archive.debian.org, only a debian directory.  This has already been
reported: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=505754.

So you just need to s/debian-archive/debian/ in your sources.list.

Sven


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