Re: saving mutt email headers

2003-09-20 Thread Pigeon
On Sat, Sep 20, 2003 at 03:34:06AM +, p wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 12, 2003 at 01:23:23AM +, p wrote:
  in mutt, when i save an email to a
  file, how do i save the headers, too?
 
 ...thought i'd report back to
 list.  
 
 if the pipe command | is 
 used, the _whole_ (mutt) e-
 mail, including the headers, 
 can then be saved into a file
 without the overhead of try-
 ing to keep bunches of 
 mailboxen straight. 
 
 for example:
 
 |
 cat  txt_printer_email_09192003_friday_1a.txt

I didn't see this originally, but there's also...

C (Copy to mailbox) saves the mail to a file without marking it
deleted.
s (save) saves the mail to a file and marks it deleted.

Both of these save the headers as well. An mbox-format mailbox is just
a file with emails in it, so you don't get any overhead of trying to
keep bunches of mailboxen straight apart from the expected overhead
of trying to keep bunches of files straight. :-)

What does appear to be missing is a quote headers in reply option.

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Re: saving mutt email headers

2003-09-20 Thread p
On Sat, Sep 20, 2003 at 06:14:57PM +0100, Pigeon wrote:
 On Sat, Sep 20, 2003 at 03:34:06AM +, p wrote:
  On Wed, Feb 12, 2003 at 01:23:23AM +, p wrote:
   in mutt, when i save an email to a
   file, how do i save the headers, too?
  
  ...thought i'd report back to
  list.  
  
  if the pipe command | is 
  used, the _whole_ (mutt) e-
  mail, including the headers, 
  can then be saved into a file
  without the overhead of try-
  ing to keep bunches of 
  mailboxen straight. 
  
  for example:
  
  |
  cat  txt_printer_email_09192003_friday_1a.txt
 
 I didn't see this originally, but there's also...
 
 C (Copy to mailbox) saves the mail to a file without marking it
 deleted.
 s (save) saves the mail to a file and marks it deleted.
 
 Both of these save the headers as well. An mbox-format mailbox is just
 a file with emails in it, so you don't get any overhead of trying to
 keep bunches of mailboxen straight apart from the expected overhead
 of trying to keep bunches of files straight. :-)


//

point, pigeon. 

i was thinking in terms of, say,
a thread by 50 different authors
about printing.  if i take the 
automatic mailbox default, i would 
be creating 50 different mailboxen.
then, finding emails about printing
would be a problem.  but i now real-
ize that i could just create a 
mailbox called, printing, and save
those 50 emails there.  (i guess it 
was the automatic mailbox naming 
feature that threw me off.

//
 
 What does appear to be missing is a quote headers in reply option.


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figure out what that means.)

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Re: saving mutt email headers

2003-09-20 Thread Pigeon
On Sun, Sep 21, 2003 at 01:02:43AM +, p wrote:
 On Sat, Sep 20, 2003 at 06:14:57PM +0100, Pigeon wrote:
 i was thinking in terms of, say,
 a thread by 50 different authors
 about printing.  if i take the 
 automatic mailbox default, i would 
 be creating 50 different mailboxen.
 then, finding emails about printing
 would be a problem.  but i now real-
 ize that i could just create a 
 mailbox called, printing, and save
 those 50 emails there.  (i guess it 
 was the automatic mailbox naming 
 feature that threw me off.

Sure, eg. Esct (tag thread) followed by ;C (copy tagged), then give
it a filename of your choice.

  What does appear to be missing is a quote headers in reply option.
 
 (give me another 7 months and i'll
 figure out what that means.)

Discussions on this list, for example, frequently make reference to
some feature of the headers of someone's posts, often for reasons like
pointing out misconfiguration. It would be handy to have a variant on
the include message in reply? option that allowed the inclusion of
the headers as well as the message body for purposes of geeky
nitpicking.

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Re: saving mutt email headers

2003-09-20 Thread p

  On Sat, Sep 20, 2003 at 06:14:57PM +0100, Pigeon wrote:

__snip__

   What does appear to be missing is a quote headers in reply option.
  
 On Sun, Sep 21, 2003 at 01:02:43AM +, p wrote:
  (give me another 7 months and i'll
  figure out what that means.)
 

  On Sat, Sep 20, 2003 at 06:14:57PM +0100, Pigeon wrote:
 Discussions on this list, for example, frequently make reference to
 some feature of the headers of someone's posts, often for reasons like
 pointing out misconfiguration. It would be handy to have a variant on
 the include message in reply? option that allowed the inclusion of
 the headers as well as the message body for purposes of geeky
 nitpicking.
 
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ah, now i see.

pigeon,...much appreciated.

kthxbye.

b.

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Re: saving mutt email headers

2003-09-19 Thread p
On Wed, Feb 12, 2003 at 01:23:23AM +, p wrote:
 debs,
 
 in mutt, when i save an email to a
 file, how do i save the headers, too?
 
 kthxbye.
 
 b.
 
 //

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debs,

...thought i'd report back to
list.  

if the pipe command | is 
used, the _whole_ (mutt) e-
mail, including the headers, 
can then be saved into a file
without the overhead of try-
ing to keep bunches of 
mailboxen straight. 

for example:

|
cat  txt_printer_email_09192003_friday_1a.txt


kthxbye.

b.

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Re: saving mutt email headers

2003-02-12 Thread Vineet Kumar
* p ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030211 18:39]:
 On Tue, Feb 11, 2003 at 05:41:16PM -0800, Vineet Kumar wrote:
  * p ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030211 17:26]:
   debs,
   
   in mutt, when i save an email to a
   file, how do i save the headers, too?
  
  How do you _not_ save the headers?
 
 in view mode, i try to save
 the email into a file.  

Ah, I see.  You know that 'v' is really bound to 'view-attachments',
yes?  I suspect you may be hitting 'v' on each message you want to view,
rather than just hitting enter?  I only ever use 'v' to view, save, or
delete individual attachments.  Using 's' from either the index or pager
will save the whole message (including all headers and all body parts),
rather than a particular attachment part (in the case you were seeing,
just the text/plain body)

good times,
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saving mutt email headers

2003-02-11 Thread p
debs,

in mutt, when i save an email to a
file, how do i save the headers, too?

kthxbye.

b.

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Re: saving mutt email headers

2003-02-11 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Feb 12, 2003 at 01:23:23AM +, p wrote:
 in mutt, when i save an email to a file, how do i save the headers,
 too?

What are you using to save the mail to a file at the moment? If you use
's' or 'C' to move or copy the mail to a file, it's exactly the same as
moving or copying to another mailbox: everything is saved, including
headers and the mbox From  header.

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Re: saving mutt email headers

2003-02-11 Thread Seneca
On Wed, Feb 12, 2003 at 01:23:23AM +, p wrote:
 in mutt, when i save an email to a
 file, how do i save the headers, too?

I just saved a copy of your message in mutt.  I looked at the saved copy
with less, and the headers were there.

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Re: saving mutt email headers

2003-02-11 Thread Vineet Kumar
* p ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030211 17:26]:
 debs,
 
 in mutt, when i save an email to a
 file, how do i save the headers, too?

How do you _not_ save the headers?

good times,
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Re: saving mutt email headers

2003-02-11 Thread p
On Wed, Feb 12, 2003 at 01:32:01AM +, Colin Watson wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 12, 2003 at 01:23:23AM +, p wrote:
  in mutt, when i save an email to a file, how do i save the headers,
  too?
 
 What are you using to save the mail to a file at the moment? If you use
 's' or 'C' to move or copy the mail to a file, it's exactly the same as
 moving or copying to another mailbox: everything is saved, including
 headers and the mbox From  header.
 
 Cheers,
 
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hi,

 1) i hit v (for view);

 2) then i hit, s (for save);

 3) then i give the email a file-
name.

i just get the body of the email,
which is cool, of course, but i'd
like to capture the headers with
it.

kthxbye.

b.

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Re: saving mutt email headers

2003-02-11 Thread p
On Tue, Feb 11, 2003 at 05:41:16PM -0800, Vineet Kumar wrote:
 * p ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030211 17:26]:
  debs,
  
  in mutt, when i save an email to a
  file, how do i save the headers, too?
 
 How do you _not_ save the headers?
 
 good times,
 Vineet
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 the result of an unsolicited email message. Nor will I forward chain
 letters, petitions, mass mailings, or virus warnings to large numbers
 of others. This is my contribution to the survival of the online
 community. - Roger Ebert, The Boulder Pledge

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hi,

in view mode, i try to save
the email into a file.  

(am i wrong for trying to save emails
as files? -- ...seems like a reason-
able approach to keeping the mbox
a decent size.  also it's easier
for me to keep track of great emails,
especially by the deb community, 
simply by giving them catagory-type
file names, e.g., email_debian_printers_
_info_ 02112003_tuesday_1a, *1b, *1c)

kthxbye.

b.

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Re: saving mutt email headers

2003-02-11 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Wed, Feb 12, 2003 at 02:22:05AM +, p wrote:
  1) i hit v (for view);
 
  2) then i hit, s (for save);
 
  3) then i give the email a file-
 name.
 
 i just get the body of the email,
 which is cool, of course, but i'd
 like to capture the headers with
 it.

If you also want to save the headers, save the message from the
initial pager without going into the 'v'iew screen first.

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Re: saving mutt email headers

2003-02-11 Thread Carel Fellinger
On Wed, Feb 12, 2003 at 02:36:43AM +, p wrote:
...
 in view mode, i try to save
 the email into a file.  

don't go into view mode, but save from the index instead.

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