Re: way indulgent on my part--was Re: paint
ben wrote: colin, thanks for the response, but given that a huge majority of the spam that makes its way through the list filters emanates from .cn, .tw, and .kr domains, where there are obviously huge relay holes, what does it take to have the list's spam guardians address the issue? the spam pollution on the list has increased hugely over the last six months. who's responsible for the filter? Would RBL help? -- * Knghtbrd unleashes a pair of double barreled snurf guns and covers jesus with snurf darts jesus meany :P -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: way indulgent on my part--was Re: paint
Colin Watson wrote: On Tue, Oct 29, 2002 at 01:00:23AM -0800, ben wrote: on the other hand, isn't there more that can be done to spare us all from this crap? if the f*ckin' big interrogators and the corporate insulation association can develop a means of tracking potentially injurious content, why can't we get it together, on this list, to agree on a commonly appropriate filtering apparatus to eliminate obvious spam from this list? People seem to keep assuming there's no filtering at all! We do have spamassassin running; it's just a matter of tweaking it (and, in the meantime, accepting that nothing's perfect). I've also noticed that a lot of the spam is getting much smarter. Spamassassin is only so good. If you can figure out the words and phrases that spamassassin is expecting, you can work towards avoiding them. That last piece I saw was a completely different format than anything I've seen before. They are evolving. Personally, I would think RBL could help. -- * Knghtbrd unleashes a pair of double barreled snurf guns and covers jesus with snurf darts jesus meany :P -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: way indulgent on my part--was Re: paint
On Tue, Oct 29, 2002 at 01:00:23AM -0800, ben wrote: on the other hand, isn't there more that can be done to spare us all from this crap? if the f*ckin' big interrogators and the corporate insulation association can develop a means of tracking potentially injurious content, why can't we get it together, on this list, to agree on a commonly appropriate filtering apparatus to eliminate obvious spam from this list? People seem to keep assuming there's no filtering at all! We do have spamassassin running; it's just a matter of tweaking it (and, in the meantime, accepting that nothing's perfect). -- Colin Watson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: way indulgent on my part--was Re: paint
On Tuesday 29 October 2002 02:32 am, Colin Watson wrote: On Tue, Oct 29, 2002 at 01:00:23AM -0800, ben wrote: on the other hand, isn't there more that can be done to spare us all from this crap? if the f*ckin' big interrogators and the corporate insulation association can develop a means of tracking potentially injurious content, why can't we get it together, on this list, to agree on a commonly appropriate filtering apparatus to eliminate obvious spam from this list? People seem to keep assuming there's no filtering at all! We do have spamassassin running; it's just a matter of tweaking it (and, in the meantime, accepting that nothing's perfect). colin, thanks for the response, but given that a huge majority of the spam that makes its way through the list filters emanates from .cn, .tw, and .kr domains, where there are obviously huge relay holes, what does it take to have the list's spam guardians address the issue? the spam pollution on the list has increased hugely over the last six months. who's responsible for the filter? i'm not assuming that there's no filtering; rather wondering if the filterer is keeping up with current degree of infiltration. if i can help with that task, let me know how. ben -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: way indulgent on my part--was Re: paint
On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, ben wrote: Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 02:59:26 -0800 From: ben [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Craig Genner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: way indulgent on my part--was Re: paint Resent-Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 05:55:39 -0600 (CST) Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] first off, i don't understand your point. second, please keep it on the list, simply because it's a list issue, that's best resolved by the most people having the opportunity to respond. i'm top-posting so that others have the chance to review and perhaps make sense of what i concede i don't understand. ben SNIP I cut much stuff about spam and gripes because it has increased on debian-user to say thanks. I am subscribed to several lists. It is certainly true that spam has increased in all lists over the last year, nevertheless I get the LEAST spam from debian-user. If it can be decreased, and if I can help, please let me know. Thanks to the guys who do the hard work that I cannot. David Teague who depends on this list for support of Debian Distribution. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: way indulgent on my part--was Re: paint
On Tuesday 29 October 2002 02:29, ben wrote: colin, thanks for the response, but given that a huge majority of the spam that makes its way through the list filters emanates from .cn, .tw, and .kr domains, where there are obviously huge relay holes, what does it take to have the list's spam guardians address the issue? the spam pollution on the list has increased hugely over the last six months. who's responsible for the filter? i'm not assuming that there's no filtering; rather wondering if the filterer is keeping up with current degree of infiltration. if i can help with that task, let me know how. ben the lists were only fairly recently switched to spamassassin. We are currently using a slightly out of date version because the server we are running it on does not have all of the depends for the latest version. That is being looked into presently. Secondly, look at the header of each mail and there is a spamassassin added to each one. So you can further filter the mail. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
