Re: what's the best html wordprocessor?
On Thu, Mar 18, 1999 at 10:01:40AM -0800, fockface dickmeat wrote: vi works best. There are few things worse than editing WSIWYG produced html. From: George Bonser [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Paul Puri [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: what's the best html wordprocessor? Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 23:55:42 -0800 (PST) On Wed, 10 Mar 1999, Paul Puri wrote: StarWriter is the best I've seen so far for Linux. The memory needs for this thing can be a bit too high for most users though. I can't wait to check out what the gnome word processor will do. Word perfect also has an html composer mode and I think LyX will allow you to save as html. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null Here here! After using Frontpage for the first 2 months of making web pages, I'm now happily using VIM and love it! One time, I imported an excel table with Frontpage and the HTML file was 200+K. Using search and replace and VIM, I got it down to 30K. -- Stephen Pitts [EMAIL PROTECTED] webmaster - http://www.mschess.org
Re: what's the best html wordprocessor?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 18 Mar 1999 19:11:47 -0600, Stephen Pitts wrote: vi works best. There are few things worse than editing WSIWYG produced html. Then you've been using the wrong tools. Macromedia's Dreamweaver (yeah, I know, Windows, but hear me out) is a WYSIWYG HTML editor that doesn't produce ugly code because it doesn't change the code you put into it and the code it does generate is quite nice. I rarely have problems with the code it generates and before Macromedia I used joe and did all my HTML by hand. - -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. - ---+- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.0 (C) 1997 Pretty Good Privacy, Inc iQA/AwUBNvGmvnpf7K2LbpnFEQLShgCeKprSYTroRNE5zh82mNcRGruDX9AAn2v6 lx4yJqbagI3LajZbuCdVP4Yh =bYZK -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: what's the best html wordprocessor?
Yeah, I know about (and use dreamweaver and fireworks); My question is more about linux based stuff. In addition, my focus simply about which app works more like a standard wordprocessor. Dreamweaver is a heavyduty web design tool. I mean basic text document formatting (in html). But you're right, Dreamweaver is the best of the best. Let's email the hell out of macromedia and make them do a linux port. NatePuri Certified Law Student Debian GNU/Linux Monk McGeorge School of Law [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ompages.com On Thu, 18 Mar 1999, Steve Lamb wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 18 Mar 1999 19:11:47 -0600, Stephen Pitts wrote: vi works best. There are few things worse than editing WSIWYG produced html. Then you've been using the wrong tools. Macromedia's Dreamweaver (yeah, I know, Windows, but hear me out) is a WYSIWYG HTML editor that doesn't produce ugly code because it doesn't change the code you put into it and the code it does generate is quite nice. I rarely have problems with the code it generates and before Macromedia I used joe and did all my HTML by hand. - -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. - ---+- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.0 (C) 1997 Pretty Good Privacy, Inc iQA/AwUBNvGmvnpf7K2LbpnFEQLShgCeKprSYTroRNE5zh82mNcRGruDX9AAn2v6 lx4yJqbagI3LajZbuCdVP4Yh =bYZK -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: what's the best html wordprocessor?
I don't intend to debate the pros and cons of editors v/ wysiwyg. My aim is to have secretaries, dilberts, etc. edit memos, documents, etc. and have it set in html. Therefore, it must have the functions of a word processor (i.e., wp8) but save in as clean an html format as possible. I do not foresee the need to have the html code itself edited. These documents are intended for web access, archival, and indexing. The code does not have to be perfect. Indexable is the real aim (to build a searchable library of internal documents). NatePuri Certified Law Student Debian GNU/Linux Monk McGeorge School of Law [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ompages.com On Thu, 18 Mar 1999, fockface dickmeat wrote: vi works best. There are few things worse than editing WSIWYG produced html. From: George Bonser [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Paul Puri [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: what's the best html wordprocessor? Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 23:55:42 -0800 (PST) On Wed, 10 Mar 1999, Paul Puri wrote: StarWriter is the best I've seen so far for Linux. The memory needs for this thing can be a bit too high for most users though. I can't wait to check out what the gnome word processor will do. Word perfect also has an html composer mode and I think LyX will allow you to save as html. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: what's the best html wordprocessor?
Steve Lamb wrote: Then you've been using the wrong tools. Macromedia's Dreamweaver (yeah, I know, Windows, but hear me out) is a WYSIWYG HTML editor that doesn't You are right Dreamweaver, Coldfusion (the one I use for HTML and Perl) are great products. I play with the page in Dreamwerver and Coldfusion till it looks good then move it into Perl. Rumor from the makers that they are porting Coldfusion to Linux, with luck one more of the reasons for using windows will disappear. Shanta
Re: what's the best html wordprocessor?
Paul I don't intend to debate the pros and cons of editors v/ wysiwyg. There are pros and con's here wysiyg get one into more trouble than it can be worth. processor (i.e., wp8) but save in as clean an html format as possible. I personal don't like WP HTML it put hard spaces into your document so if a browser is in a different resolution your page will not get rendered properly. WP8 has been ported to Linux and is available from Corel. I have yet to get it going though so I still use my Win version. For you needs though it seems that WP8 port or a until that puts in the codes you need. Shanta
Re: what's the best html wordprocessor?
vi works best. There are few things worse than editing WSIWYG produced html. From: George Bonser [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Paul Puri [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: what's the best html wordprocessor? Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 23:55:42 -0800 (PST) On Wed, 10 Mar 1999, Paul Puri wrote: StarWriter is the best I've seen so far for Linux. The memory needs for this thing can be a bit too high for most users though. I can't wait to check out what the gnome word processor will do. Word perfect also has an html composer mode and I think LyX will allow you to save as html. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: what's the best html wordprocessor?
Paul Puri [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've used netscape composer, amaya, emacs (which is more of an html code editor), I'm looking for wysiwyg (word processor type). Now I think soffice's StarWriter is the best around. It acts just like a word processor, it has footnotes, doublespace, etc. It also uses good html. I checked my docs in lynx and they were quite viewable, and the double spacing etc looked great. I'm interested in this because my goal is to write all documents in an open file type that can be easily indexed and searchable in htdig. That way I can have a permanent and growing personal (searchable) library (one that would also be searchable over the network). I know there are lots of great word processors, but .wpd, .doc, .dvi, etc. are not acceptable. I hear gnome will have an xml word processor, that is something to look forward to. I find the idea to use HTML as an exchangeable format for documents REALLY scary, because it doesn't use content based tagging and the documents look different on each browser. You can't carefully design a document and be sure that it will look the same even with a new browser version. For searching, HTDIG and the like, HTML is great, however. My suggestion is to keep 2 copies of a document around: one in a format that ideally uses content tagging and can reproduce faithful copies for printing (dvi, I suppose) and a HTML copy for browsing, indexing and the like. I would try to learn SGML. From SGML you can create all types of documents, including HTML. Even LaTeX is better, and Latex-documents usually are searchable, too. Using the right style files, you can even have content-tagging. LaTeX2HTML translates LaTeX into HTML. The editor: I don't care. WYSIWYG doesn't bother me, because in LaTeX I trust (after having made my own style files). Emacs+AucTeX+RefTeX is my favourite combination, but vi would do the same job. -- Michael Bonetsmüller The least we can do is wave to each other [EMAIL PROTECTED] --Van der Graaf Generator
what's the best html wordprocessor?
I've used netscape composer, amaya, emacs (which is more of an html code editor), I'm looking for wysiwyg (word processor type). Now I think soffice's StarWriter is the best around. It acts just like a word processor, it has footnotes, doublespace, etc. It also uses good html. I checked my docs in lynx and they were quite viewable, and the double spacing etc looked great. I'm interested in this because my goal is to write all documents in an open file type that can be easily indexed and searchable in htdig. That way I can have a permanent and growing personal (searchable) library (one that would also be searchable over the network). I know there are lots of great word processors, but .wpd, .doc, .dvi, etc. are not acceptable. I hear gnome will have an xml word processor, that is something to look forward to. StarWriter is the best I've seen so far for Linux. The memory needs for this thing can be a bit too high for most users though. I can't wait to check out what the gnome word processor will do.
Re: what's the best html wordprocessor?
Original Message On 3/9/99, 11:55:42 PM, George Bonser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding Re: what's the best html wordprocessor?: On Wed, 10 Mar 1999, Paul Puri wrote: StarWriter is the best I've seen so far for Linux. The memory needs for this thing can be a bit too high for most users though. I can't wait to check out what the gnome word processor will do. Word perfect also has an html composer mode and I think LyX will allow you to save as html. I'm aware of this. However, I'm a little disappointed in wp8's use of X screen fonts. They are very blurry, and on my lcd on my laptop, sometimes word's or letters disappear. This can be very frustrating when one's editing documents. Even though soffice is bloated as hell, they do a good job overall with their product. It's pretty well polished. I'm still excited about what gnome will come up with. And Corel's Office 2000 (WP9, etc.) will be out at the end of this year. Until then, I'm afraid WP8 will only get attention from me when I need to print docs with the pleading lines... -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: what's the best html wordprocessor?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 10 Mar 1999 07:55:56 GMT, Paul Puri wrote: In all honesty, on all platforms, Macromedia's DreamWeaver is the best HTML WYSIWYG editor I've seen, hands down. Of course, it is Windows and ~$300 so I don't think that is exactly what you were looking for. :/ - -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. - ---+- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.0 (C) 1997 Pretty Good Privacy, Inc iQA/AwUBNuZJJXpf7K2LbpnFEQIYawCghTFHiXxRmkCJSH8/ra+VJCleiMUAoN9g 7blTmzD2CCropPYWJ+4JMtdz =IlN6 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
