Re: woody is killing me
Hans Ekbrand wrote: On Thu, May 30, 2002 at 06:16:10AM -0400, Tom Allison wrote: OK, I'll fess up. I am dying over here with woody's recent release resolved for real? I don't know that it is as simple as doing another apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade as I've already tried that one. What next? apt-get dist-upgrade for an installation that I've had for 6 months on 'testing'? Seems odd. I think I found part of the problem. Many of the mirrors I was using were stagnant. Mostly universities in the USA. I redefined everything back to tier one and got most of it working again. ucspi qmail are majorly hosed, but I think everything else is OK. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: woody is killing me
On Fri, 31 May 2002 05:14:31 -0400 Tom Allison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Many of the mirrors I was using were stagnant. Mostly universities in the USA. I redefined everything back to tier one and got most of it working again. ucspi qmail are majorly hosed, but I think everything else is OK. I've often found with mirrors that some are not updated properly. Is there a list of mirrors known to be reliable? - Richard. -- Richard Kimber Political Science Resourceshttp://www.psr.keele.ac.uk/ UK-Euro FAQ http://www.psr.keele.ac.uk/docs/efaq.htm -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: woody is killing me
Many of the mirrors I was using were stagnant. Mostly universities in the USA. I redefined everything back to tier one and got most of it working again. ucspi qmail are majorly hosed, but I think everything else is OK. I've often found with mirrors that some are not updated properly. Is there a list of mirrors known to be reliable? I don't know of a list, but never had problems with http.de.debian.org, which is not that far from where you are living, I presume :-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
woody is killing me
OK, I'll fess up. I am dying over here with woody's recent release status and the facts that: I have seen zero package updates in the past month. and I have a pile of stuff that is running into dependency problems and it's been a month or better on all of them. Major level of frustration here. apache apache-common are in disagreement about versioning and therefore I have no web server. ucspi-tcp is in disarray over libc6 libraries, yet there is nothing else available from Debian. Interestingly enough I haven't heard about any of these problems from anyone else out there So, in hopes of getting something useful out of what would otherwise be a rant, how would / should I go about getting some of this resolved for real? I don't know that it is as simple as doing another apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade as I've already tried that one. What next? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: woody is killing me
On Thu, May 30, 2002 at 06:16:10AM -0400, Tom Allison wrote: OK, I'll fess up. I am dying over here with woody's recent release resolved for real? I don't know that it is as simple as doing another apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade as I've already tried that one. What next? apt-get dist-upgrade -- Note that I use Debian version 3.0 Linux emac140 2.4.17 #1 sön feb 10 20:21:22 CET 2002 i686 unknown Hans Ekbrand pgpaMVd831oob.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: woody is killing me
On Thu, May 30, 2002 at 06:16:10AM -0400, Tom Allison wrote: OK, I'll fess up. I am dying over here with woody's recent release status and the facts that: I have seen zero package updates in the past month. Funny that :) and I have a pile of stuff that is running into dependency problems and it's been a month or better on all of them. Major level of frustration here. apache apache-common are in disagreement about versioning and therefore I have no web server. You probably need to upgrade using a less anaemic tool than 'apt-get upgrade', which (as documented) only upgrades if it doesn't involve installing or removing packages. apache and apache-common are in sync and installable on woody. ucspi-tcp is in disarray over libc6 libraries, yet there is nothing else available from Debian. ucspi-tcp is a package you have to build yourself from source using ucspi-tcp-src. I suggest rebuilding it. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: woody is killing me
On Thu, 30 May 2002 06:16:10 -0400 Tom Allison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: apache apache-common are in disagreement about versioning and therefore I have no web server. Just installed a woody system yesterday from my local mirror (updated nightly) and have apache running with no problem. Nor have I had any problems with updating my mirror. ucspi-tcp is in disarray over libc6 libraries, yet there is nothing else available from Debian. Installed this a few days before on another woody system I have with no problems. So, in hopes of getting something useful out of what would otherwise be a rant, how would / should I go about getting some of this resolved for real? I don't know that it is as simple as doing another apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade as I've already tried that one. Does apt-get -u upgrade list any packages that are _not_ being upgraded? -- Jamin W. Collins -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: woody is killing me
Are you using the BF2.4 net install disks? I had the same problem until I realized that the apt sources list on the install set you to stable, not woody. So your get base of woody, and then the initial install packages pull from stable and it causes all kinds of problems. Wayne Tom Allison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote .. OK, I'll fess up. I am dying over here with woody's recent release status and the facts that: I have seen zero package updates in the past month. and I have a pile of stuff that is running into dependency problems and it's been a month or better on all of them. Major level of frustration here. apache apache-common are in disagreement about versioning and therefore I have no web server. ucspi-tcp is in disarray over libc6 libraries, yet there is nothing else available from Debian. Interestingly enough I haven't heard about any of these problems from anyone else out there So, in hopes of getting something useful out of what would otherwise be a rant, how would / should I go about getting some of this resolved for real? I don't know that it is as simple as doing another apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade as I've already tried that one. What next? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: woody is killing me
On Thu, May 30, 2002 at 11:34:52AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: | On Thu, May 30, 2002 at 06:16:10AM -0400, Tom Allison wrote: | OK, I'll fess up. I am dying over here with woody's recent release | status and the facts that: | I have seen zero package updates in the past month. | | Funny that :) It is funny since the Packages file changes rather frequently. (using 'testing' in my sources.list) I understand woody not being updated now, but I would expect that (like potato) the Packages and Release files wouldn't be changing so often. (at least, apt-get update re-downloads the files, so I presume they've changed) -D -- A)bort, R)etry, D)o it right this time GnuPG key : http://dman.ddts.net/~dman/public_key.gpg pgpLcLLJihTvB.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: woody is killing me
On Thu, May 30, 2002 at 09:59:48AM -0500, dman wrote: On Thu, May 30, 2002 at 11:34:52AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: | On Thu, May 30, 2002 at 06:16:10AM -0400, Tom Allison wrote: | OK, I'll fess up. I am dying over here with woody's recent release | status and the facts that: | I have seen zero package updates in the past month. | | Funny that :) It is funny since the Packages file changes rather frequently. (using 'testing' in my sources.list) I understand woody not being updated now, but I would expect that (like potato) the Packages and Release files wouldn't be changing so often. The modification time of dists/woody/main/binary-i386/Packages on ftp-master is on 24 May, so it isn't changing very often (your mirror might be strange, of course). Release does change every day at the moment, but won't when woody becomes stable. See the thread starting at http://lists.debian.org/debian-testing-0205/msg00104.html for more details. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: woody is killing me
On Thu, May 30, 2002 at 05:01:00PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: | On Thu, May 30, 2002 at 09:59:48AM -0500, dman wrote: | On Thu, May 30, 2002 at 11:34:52AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: | | On Thu, May 30, 2002 at 06:16:10AM -0400, Tom Allison wrote: | | OK, I'll fess up. I am dying over here with woody's recent release | | status and the facts that: | | I have seen zero package updates in the past month. | | | | Funny that :) | | It is funny since the Packages file changes rather frequently. (using | 'testing' in my sources.list) | | I understand woody not being updated now, but I would expect that | (like potato) the Packages and Release files wouldn't be changing so | often. | | The modification time of dists/woody/main/binary-i386/Packages on | ftp-master is on 24 May, so it isn't changing very often (your mirror | might be strange, of course). Release does change every day at the | moment, but won't when woody becomes stable. | | See the thread starting at | http://lists.debian.org/debian-testing-0205/msg00104.html for more | details. Ah, ok, I see now. Maybe I was wrong and just the Release file was downloaded. I probably didn't pay that much attention since the two usually go together. (the transfer was very fast, though) -D -- Emacs is a nice operating system, it lacks a decent editor though GnuPG key : http://dman.ddts.net/~dman/public_key.gpg pgpuJGCEr8fct.pgp Description: PGP signature
