Re: xemacs und emacs

2003-05-27 Thread Simon Schweizer
Am Sonntag, 25. Mai 2003 20:04 schrieb Kai Großjohann:

 Ich weiß leider nicht genau, wie das entsprechende XEmacs-Feature
 heißt, aber das gibt es im XEmacs natürlich auch.  Du kannst den
 XEmacs-Teil entsprechend behandeln.

werd mich da mal schlau machen ...

 Eine andere Möglichkeit wäre, den Kram aus ~/.emacs rauszuschmeißen
 und eine ~/.emacs für Emacs und eine ~/.xemacs/init.el für XEmacs zu
 warten.  Dann hast du keine Probleme mit Kompatibilität, musst
 Änderungen aber evtl. doppelt machen.

Ja, so hab ich's gemacht, schien mir am einfachsten zu sein,
vielen Dank.

Weiß jemand, ob man den (X)Emacs auch auf Deutsch umstellen kann ?

Gruß,
Simon


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xemacs and emacs

1997-10-20 Thread John Overton
Hi all,

Installing from a Debian 1.3.1 CD:

1. I'd like to make both xemacs and emacs available on my system, but
   dselect prohibits both.  Why?  Should not there be an automatic way
   for coexistence?

2. Also, I'd like to make bbdb and auctex available to xemacs, but
   using dselect doesn't permit this?  What's the right automatic
   way to give xemacs bbdb and auctex support?

Thanks,
John


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Xemacs vs. Emacs

1997-06-17 Thread Pedro I. Sanchez
Hello,

I remember seeing some messages in this list not long ago saying that
the maintainers of these two packages had agreed on a format that would
allow both to coexist in the same machine. What's the status of this?

I'd like to try Xemacs but I don't want to give up my old friend Emacs!

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Re: Xemacs vs. Emacs

1997-06-17 Thread Buddha Buck
 Hello,
 
 I remember seeing some messages in this list not long ago saying that
 the maintainers of these two packages had agreed on a format that would
 allow both to coexist in the same machine. What's the status of this?

It works.  The XEmacs19 package and Emacs package from unstable (what 
will be Debian 2.0) coexist perfectly fine.  Until this morning I did 
have both of them installed.

If you want to try XEmacs, I'd suggest grabbing that installation

However, XEmacs19 as it currently stands in unstable doesn't work with 
the XFree86 3.3 binaries also in unstable.  So if you use dselect to 
install it via FTP, make certain that you do -not- upgrade your X 
packages.  XEmacs19 works fine with XFree86 3.2.  I'll probably 
reinstall XEmacs19 when the onflict between it and X is resolved.

 
 I'd like to try Xemacs but I don't want to give up my old friend Emacs!

XEmacs is just like Emacs, but a bit prettier, with a few new features, 
and only slightly slower.
 
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Re: xemacs and emacs

1997-04-08 Thread Douglas Bates
 Jean == Jean Pierre LeJacq [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Jean I have both working fine on my system which is based on the
  Jean unstable branch.  Didn't have to do anything special.

  Jean On Mon, 7 Apr 1997, Steve Hsieh wrote:

   Can someone explain why the xemacs and emacs packages can't
   coexist on the same Debian system?  (What would it take to make
   them coexist?)

I have the emacs package (i.e. GNU emacs) installed. If I try to
select the xemacs package with dselect, I am told that there is a
dependency conflict and I must remove emacs, w3, vm and several other
packages to install xemacs.  At least at the level of Debian packages
they still appear to conflict.


Re: xemacs and emacs

1997-04-08 Thread Alair Pereira do Lago
Steve Hsieh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Can someone explain why the xemacs and emacs packages can't coexist on the
 same Debian system?  (What would it take to make them coexist?) 

I have both on my computer at home.  All that I know is that there are some
conflict in some few auxiliary binaries like /usr/bin/etags. (There was such a
question few months ago.)  Both packages provide them.  Such binaries does not
have the same syntax and their usage may be quite different.

Someone mentioned on /etc/alternative. I do not know this well but I think
this could be used to resolve the conflicts.  For sure some package would loss
a few of its functionality.


Other idea: split emacs package in emacs and emacs-utils. In emacs-utils you
put all these conflicting binaries.  Do the same for xemacs and install only
one of emacs-utils and xemacs-utils.  We could have something like:

emacs depends emacsutl
emacs suggests emacs-utils
xemacs depends emacsutl
xemacs suggests xemacs-utils
emacs-utils provides emacsutl
xemacs-utils provides emacsutl
emacs-utils conflicts xemacs-utils  (would it be necessary to explicit?)

Another idea: (feasible?) move the conflicting binaries of xemacs to some
internal directory (like we have with movemail, hexl) and configure the
specific variables in site-start if these is a problem.
Perhaps renaming some bins like etags to xetags could be done.

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Re: xemacs and emacs

1997-04-08 Thread J . R . Goncalves

The maintainers of these two packages reached an agreement on
how to make possible to install both without any conflicts.
They uploaded corrected versions to master.debian.org/Incoming
but for some reason they were not transferred to Bo. I downloaded
these two packages from Incoming and installed them without problems.

Ramos.

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Re: xemacs and emacs

1997-04-08 Thread Alair Pereira do Lago
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 The maintainers of these two packages reached an agreement on
 how to make possible to install both without any conflicts.
 They uploaded corrected versions to master.debian.org/Incoming
 but for some reason they were not transferred to Bo. I downloaded
 these two packages from Incoming and installed them without problems.

It would be very nice if these packages reachs frozen.  It is annoying that
dselect reclaims both are conflicting every time I update my system.

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xemacs and emacs

1997-04-07 Thread Steve Hsieh

Can someone explain why the xemacs and emacs packages can't coexist on the
same Debian system?  (What would it take to make them coexist?) 




Re: xemacs and emacs

1997-04-07 Thread Martin Schulze
Steve Hsieh writes:
 
 Can someone explain why the xemacs and emacs packages can't coexist on the
 same Debian system?  (What would it take to make them coexist?) 

I was thinking of this lately.  I also was wondering whey they
don't use update-alternatives - like the three vi clones do.
Both provide similar functionality so imho they should use
this mechanism.

Regards

Joey

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Re: xemacs and emacs

1997-04-07 Thread Jean Pierre LeJacq
I have both working fine on my system which is based on the
unstable branch.  Didn't have to do anything special.

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On Mon, 7 Apr 1997, Steve Hsieh wrote:

 Can someone explain why the xemacs and emacs packages can't coexist on the
 same Debian system?  (What would it take to make them coexist?)