xfstt + urxvt + mc causes crash

2008-01-06 Thread Haines Brown
I'm running debian etch, and installed xfstt to use TT anti-aliased
fonts in my emacs23. 

I'm trying out urxvt (rxvt-unicode) in place of xterm. It seems to work
OK, but when I use it to start mc (MidnightCommander), the urxvt
terminal hangs. This prevents my starting xterm, another urxvt, or
logging out or even reboot. I have to do a dirty shutdown. 

I assume the problem is a font issue. When I tried mc with plain rxvt,
the line characters in mc were replaced by garbage charcters that seem
to me to represent unknown characters (A-circumflex followed by two
bytes). 

I'm running xfstt, but not xfstt:

  $ ps aux | grep xfs
  root 2897  0.0  0.0 2828 752 ? S 12:28 0:00 /usr/bin/xfstt --daemon
   --notcp 
  root 3202  0.0  0.0 7444 632 ? S 12:29 0:00 /usr/bin/xfstt --daemon 
   --notcp

So my Type 1 fonts are being offered by the X server instead of xfs. 

I run the following command and it returns a lot of lines suggesting
that TT but not Type 1 fonts are being served:

  $ fslsfonts -server unix/:7101
  ...
  -msttcorefonts-courier new-bold-i-normal-bold
  -italic-0-0-0-0-m-0-iso8859-1 
  -bitstream-bernhardmod bt-bold-i-normal-bold
  -italic-0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-1 
  -ttf-dejavu-dejavu sans mono-bold-i-normal-bold
  -oblique-0-0-0-0-m-0-iso885
  ...

When I do to see if Type 1 Courier is served:

 $ showfont -fn courier
 can't open server localhost:7100

it shouldn't be trying to open port 7100 in debian, but 7101. 

When I do this, however, I may be getting Type 1:

 $ xlsfonts
 ...
 -adobe-courier-bold-o-normal--17-120-100-100-m-100-iso10646-1 

Does this mean Type 1 fonts are being served?

Do I have to be running xfs for mc or urxvt to access Type 1 fonts? Can
I run both xfs and xfstt together? 

The font being used by xterm and urxvt are a similar sans, but differ in
size. However, the urxvt font does not look it is anti-aliased. 

Before installing urxvt I had installed plain rxvt. While it could start
mc, it could not display the mc line characters, replacing them with two
byte garbage characters.  

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difference entre xfs-xtt et xfstt

2003-11-03 Thread Julien
bonjour,


pouvez-vous me dire quelles sont les différences concrètes sous debian unstable 
entre 

xfs-xtt - X-TrueType font server
xfstt - TrueType Font Server for X11


merci



Re: bizzarre X fontspecs from xfstt

2003-10-13 Thread Rob Weir
begin David Morse quote from Sat, Oct 11, 2003 at 10:32:11AM -0400
 I'm using the XFree that comes with the gnome-woody-backport.  Can I see 
 your FontPaths from /usr/X11/XF86Config-4?  Also, I have

I have 

FontPath/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType

And I installed x-ttcidfont, and now truetype font packages Just Work.
Just make sure you have Type1 at the bottom of the FontPath list, or you
will end up with some mighty ugly fonts.

 
 # This loads the Type1 and FreeType font modules
 Loadtype1
 Loadfreetype
 
 
 towards the top of that file.  Is this what you have?

That will be fine.

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Re: bizzarre X fontspecs from xfstt

2003-10-11 Thread David Morse
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Subject:
Re: bizzarre X fontspecs from xfstt
From:
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Date:
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David Morse [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


I apt-got xfstt in order to use bitstream-vera-sans-mono in emacs and
xterm, however, now I get strange, broken behavior.  Running
xlsfonts gets me, among other things:
-ttf-bitstream-vera-bitstream vera sans
mono-medium-r-normal-roman-0-0-0-0-m-0-iso8859-1
This makes no sense for a number of reasons.  Its Family is not vera
but bitstream.  Its weight is not bold but vera.  Its slant is
not italic but bitstream vera sans mono.  What!?


It looks like something tried to put ttf-bitstream-vera as the foundry
field, which is wrong.  (Note that your font spec has 16 fields,
rather than the usual 14.)  Does it work fine without xfstt?
In the sense that vera disappears from the list, yes it works fine.

Modern
XFree86, including what's in woody, can natively handle TrueType fonts
without an external font server.
I'm using the XFree that comes with the gnome-woody-backport.  Can I see 
your FontPaths from /usr/X11/XF86Config-4?  Also, I have


# This loads the Type1 and FreeType font modules
Loadtype1
Loadfreetype

towards the top of that file.  Is this what you have?


FWIW, my Bitstream Vera fonts look more like

-bitstream-bitstream vera sans mono-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-m-0-iso8859-1

which is much closer to what I'd actually expect.  (On sid, without
using any X font server at all.)





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bizzarre X fontspecs from xfstt

2003-10-10 Thread David Morse
I apt-got xfstt in order to use bitstream-vera-sans-mono in emacs and 
xterm, however, now I get strange, broken behavior.  Running xlsfonts 
gets me, among other things:

-ttf-bitstream-vera-bitstream vera sans 
mono-medium-r-normal-roman-0-0-0-0-m-0-iso8859-1

This makes no sense for a number of reasons.  Its Family is not vera 
but bitstream.  Its weight is not bold but vera.  Its slant is not 
italic but bitstream vera sans mono.  What!?  Type violations a 
plenty.  Applications like xterm refuse to use this font, typically 
saying they are unable to open it.

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Re: bizzarre X fontspecs from xfstt

2003-10-10 Thread David Z Maze
David Morse [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I apt-got xfstt in order to use bitstream-vera-sans-mono in emacs and
 xterm, however, now I get strange, broken behavior.  Running
 xlsfonts gets me, among other things:

 -ttf-bitstream-vera-bitstream vera sans
 mono-medium-r-normal-roman-0-0-0-0-m-0-iso8859-1

 This makes no sense for a number of reasons.  Its Family is not vera
 but bitstream.  Its weight is not bold but vera.  Its slant is
 not italic but bitstream vera sans mono.  What!?

It looks like something tried to put ttf-bitstream-vera as the foundry
field, which is wrong.  (Note that your font spec has 16 fields,
rather than the usual 14.)  Does it work fine without xfstt?  Modern
XFree86, including what's in woody, can natively handle TrueType fonts
without an external font server.

FWIW, my Bitstream Vera fonts look more like

-bitstream-bitstream vera sans mono-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-m-0-iso8859-1

which is much closer to what I'd actually expect.  (On sid, without
using any X font server at all.)

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Qual a diferença entre xfs-xtt e xfstt?

2003-04-12 Thread Semente
Oi gente, como vão? Espero que bem...

Qual a diferença entre xfs-xtt e xfstt? Alguém poderia me 
informar se
o xfs-xtt tb lê fontes truetype do win? E se não lê, para que ele serve?

Abraços,
Guilherme



xfstt superfluous?

2003-04-05 Thread David Wright
In an attempt to fix ugly fonts in gtk1.2 apps, I just added 
/usr/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType to the xfs configuration file 
/etc/X11/fs/config, and it worked! Does this mean that xfs can serve 
both PS and TT, making xfstt completely unnecessary?

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Re: xfstt

2002-11-11 Thread Frank Habermann (LordLamer)
Am Montag, 11. November 2002 00:17 schrieb Andreas Pakulat:
 On 10.Nov 2002 - 23:40:18, Frank Habermann (LordLamer) wrote:
  hi
 
  ich will truetype-fonts nutzen! hab mir xfstt installiert und

 Seit X 4.0 kann X11 auch ohne xfstt Truetype Fonts benutzen.

  die fonts in ein verzeichnis kopiert. dann hab ich die xconfig
  angepasst. aber ich kann unter x keine weiteren fonts auswählen?
  hab ich was vergessen?

 Hmm, mal schauen: X11 neu gestartet hast du sicherlich oder? Was für nen
 eintrag hast du in der XF86Config-3/4 (je nach Version des XServers)?
 Hast du den xfstt auch gestartet?

 Ich weiß jetzt nicht wie das mit xfstt ist, aber wenn man die Fonts
 direkt mit X11 benutzen will braucht man meines Wissens nur mit ttmkfdir
 eine fonts.dir in dem  Verzeichnis erzeugen und den X11 Server neu
 starten (es gibt auch ne Möglichkeit das ohne Neustart hinzukriegen, ich
 weiß aber nicht wie).

 Andreas

hi!

also ich hab XFree 4. hab jetzt versucht in die xfreeconfig die zeile 
einzufügen. hab ja die tt-fonts in nem verzeichnis! der x-server startet ohne 
probleme! aber ich kann unter x keine neuen fonts auswählen. irgendwie 
komisch. in dem verzeichnis der fonts hab ich nur die datei fonts.dir die ich 
mir erstellt hab. fehlt noch was?


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Re: xfstt

2002-11-11 Thread Andreas Pakulat
On 11.Nov 2002 - 16:02:47, Frank Habermann (LordLamer) wrote:
 Am Montag, 11. November 2002 00:17 schrieb Andreas Pakulat:
  On 10.Nov 2002 - 23:40:18, Frank Habermann (LordLamer) wrote:
   hi
  
   ich will truetype-fonts nutzen! hab mir xfstt installiert und
 
  Seit X 4.0 kann X11 auch ohne xfstt Truetype Fonts benutzen.
 
   die fonts in ein verzeichnis kopiert. dann hab ich die xconfig
   angepasst. aber ich kann unter x keine weiteren fonts auswählen?
   hab ich was vergessen?
 
  Hmm, mal schauen: X11 neu gestartet hast du sicherlich oder? Was für nen
  eintrag hast du in der XF86Config-3/4 (je nach Version des XServers)?
  Hast du den xfstt auch gestartet?
 
  Ich weiß jetzt nicht wie das mit xfstt ist, aber wenn man die Fonts
  direkt mit X11 benutzen will braucht man meines Wissens nur mit ttmkfdir
  eine fonts.dir in dem  Verzeichnis erzeugen und den X11 Server neu
  starten (es gibt auch ne Möglichkeit das ohne Neustart hinzukriegen, ich
  weiß aber nicht wie).
 
  Andreas
 
 hi!
 
 also ich hab XFree 4. hab jetzt versucht in die xfreeconfig die zeile 
 einzufügen. hab ja die tt-fonts in nem verzeichnis! der x-server startet ohne 
 probleme! aber ich kann unter x keine neuen fonts auswählen. irgendwie 
 komisch. in dem verzeichnis der fonts hab ich nur die datei fonts.dir die ich 
 mir erstellt hab. fehlt noch was?

Ja eventuell. Stand schon in ner anderen Mail zu dem Problem, ich hatte
das ganz vergessen:

Folgende Zeile muss noch in die Modulsektion:

Load freetype

Dann sollte das wirklich gehen. Tut mir leid, aber wenn man nich in die
Config reinguckt entfallen einem solche Kleinigkeiten leicht

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xfstt

2002-11-10 Thread Frank Habermann (LordLamer)
hi

ich will truetype-fonts nutzen! hab mir xfstt installiert und die fonts in 
ein verzeichnis kopiert. dann hab ich die xconfig angepasst. aber ich kann 
unter x keine weiteren fonts auswählen? hab ich was vergessen?

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Re: xfstt

2002-11-10 Thread Andreas Pakulat
On 10.Nov 2002 - 23:40:18, Frank Habermann (LordLamer) wrote:
 hi
 
 ich will truetype-fonts nutzen! hab mir xfstt installiert und 

Seit X 4.0 kann X11 auch ohne xfstt Truetype Fonts benutzen.

 die fonts in ein verzeichnis kopiert. dann hab ich die xconfig
 angepasst. aber ich kann unter x keine weiteren fonts auswählen?
 hab ich was vergessen?

Hmm, mal schauen: X11 neu gestartet hast du sicherlich oder? Was für nen
eintrag hast du in der XF86Config-3/4 (je nach Version des XServers)?
Hast du den xfstt auch gestartet?

Ich weiß jetzt nicht wie das mit xfstt ist, aber wenn man die Fonts
direkt mit X11 benutzen will braucht man meines Wissens nur mit ttmkfdir
eine fonts.dir in dem  Verzeichnis erzeugen und den X11 Server neu
starten (es gibt auch ne Möglichkeit das ohne Neustart hinzukriegen, ich
weiß aber nicht wie).

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Re: xfstt

2002-11-10 Thread Goran Ristic
Hallo, Frank! 

Sonntag, der 10. November 2002

| ich will truetype-fonts nutzen! hab mir xfstt installiert und die fonts in 

Ich auch! ;)
Und daher habe ich in XFCfg4 dann einfach freetype eingetragen. Reicht
hier dicke aus.

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Re: xfstt

2002-11-10 Thread Hans Gerber
Hallo,

Frank Habermann (LordLamer) [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am Sun,
10 Nov 2002 23:40:18 +0100::

 hi
 
 ich will truetype-fonts nutzen! hab mir xfstt installiert und die
 fonts in ein verzeichnis kopiert. dann hab ich die xconfig angepasst.
 aber ich kann unter x keine weiteren fonts auswählen? hab ich was
 vergessen?

AFAIK musst Du noch ein Font-Liste erzeugen.
man mkttfdir

Gruß,
hans


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Re: xfs vs. xfs-xtt vs xfstt (was: Re: Euro-Zeichen nachtrglich)

2002-04-08 Thread Eduard Bloch

#include hallo.h
Kai Weber wrote on Mon Apr 08, 2002 um 12:19:46AM:

  Läuft bei mir alles über xfs und xfstt
 
 Sorry, dass ich hier den Thread einmal sprengen muss. Ich frage mich
 gerade, was die Unterschiede zwischen den Fontservern sind: es gibt den
 xfs, xfstt und xfs-xtt. Letztere rendern TrueType. Aber auch der xfs
 rendert bei mir TrueType.

Vor alles historische Unterschiede. xfs konnte ursrpünglich keine
TT-Fonts. Es entstanden (zu xf-3.3.6-Zeiten) zwei Projekte, um eine
Lösung zu finden: ein Fork des xfs, und ein neuer Server (xfstt). Heute
sind anscheinend die xfs-Erweiterungen in den xfs von Xfree86-4.x
eingeflossen, ausserdem kann Xfree86-4.x die Fonts direkt verarbeiten.

 Benutzt jmd. xfs-xtt/xfstt und kann deren Vorteile einmal erläutern?

Verschiedene Server haben verschiedene Macken bei der Darstellung der
Zeichensätze. Für latin1 nur selten relevant. xfstt kann je nach
Konfiguration xserver-xfree86 (xf4.0) killen.

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xfs vs. xfs-xtt vs xfstt (was: Re: Euro-Zeichen nachträglich)

2002-04-07 Thread Kai Weber

On Sat, Apr 06, 2002 at 07:33:03PM +0200, Udo Mueller wrote:

  Section Files
  FontPath unix/:7100
  EndSection
 
 Läuft bei mir alles über xfs und xfstt

Sorry, dass ich hier den Thread einmal sprengen muss. Ich frage mich
gerade, was die Unterschiede zwischen den Fontservern sind: es gibt den
xfs, xfstt und xfs-xtt. Letztere rendern TrueType. Aber auch der xfs
rendert bei mir TrueType.

Benutzt jmd. xfs-xtt/xfstt und kann deren Vorteile einmal erläutern?

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xfs-xtt a xfstt

2002-03-30 Thread krst

Moglby mi ktos wyjasnic roznice pomiedzy xfs-xtt a xfstt? Wlasnie
zauwazylem, ze ten pierwszy zzera mi dosc duzo pamieci, a po zastopowaniu
go nie zauwazylem wiekszej roznicy w dzialaniu Xow? Moze ktos wie czy w
takim razie warto go zostawiac w systemie?

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Re: xfs-xtt a xfstt

2002-03-30 Thread Krzysztof Krzyzaniak
On Thu, Mar 28, 2002 at 05:53:08PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Moglby mi ktos wyjasnic roznice pomiedzy xfs-xtt a xfstt? Wlasnie
 zauwazylem, ze ten pierwszy zzera mi dosc duzo pamieci, a po zastopowaniu
 go nie zauwazylem wiekszej roznicy w dzialaniu Xow? Moze ktos wie czy w
 takim razie warto go zostawiac w systemie?

Jeśli masz X-y 4.* (używane tylko lokalnie) to żaden z nich nie jest potrzebny.

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GTK crash - xfstt

2002-02-22 Thread Markus Garscha

Hi!

seit einiger zeit crashen bei mit gtk-apps wie z.b. gnomecal, etc.
beim start kommt folgende fehlermeldung:

Gdk-WARNING **: Missing charsets in FontSet creation
Gdk-WARNING **: ISO8859-15

je nach anwendung kommt ein paar sek. später ein crash:

GnomeUI-ERROR **: file gnome-icon-item.c: line 304 (get_default_font):
assertion failed: (default_font != NULL)
aborting...
Aborted

ich habe nach einigen stunden herausgefunden, dass das problem an
kaputten truetype fonts liegt. wenn ich den fontpath zum xfstt mit
xset -fp unix/:7101
deaktiviere, dann läuft die applikation einwandfrei - ich hab nur keine
ttf mehr (vgl. mit xlsfonts)

auch wenn ich in /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ den befehl mkttfdir aufrufe
dann folgt ein segmentation fault.

daraus ziehe ich den schluss, dass eine oder mehrere fonts kapput sind.
wie finde ich diese? ich hab keine lust font für font in das verzeichnis
zu spielen und die font zu prüfen!

danke
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Re: GTK crash - xfstt

2002-02-22 Thread Hartmut Figge

[Markus Garscha]:

 ich habe nach einigen stunden herausgefunden, dass das problem an
 kaputten truetype fonts liegt. wenn ich den fontpath zum xfstt mit

 daraus ziehe ich den schluss, dass eine oder mehrere fonts kapput sind.
 wie finde ich diese? ich hab keine lust font für font in das verzeichnis

Gruß,

alte truetype's beseitigen/backupen und msttcorefonts installieren.

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font servers: xfs vs. xfstt

2002-01-26 Thread Ron Johnson
Hi,

If I use lots of tt fonts, should I use xfstt instead?  Do I even 
need xfs* at all?

The reason I ask is that I just brought over tt fonts from my licensed
 copy of windows.  Then I ran mkttfontdir (well, apt-get ran it for me, 
when I installed it), and added the directory /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType 
to the catalogue list in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fs/config and restarted xfs.

Next, when I ran syplheed 0.7.0 from a terminal window, it died after 
spitting out a multitude of GDK-related font errors.  (Unfortunately,
I did not write them down.)

TIA,
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xfstt y abiword de ximian en potato

2001-12-31 Thread Julio Recalde
Hola colisteros, espero que la estén pasando muy bien en estas fiestas.
He instalado xfstt en  mi patata 2.2r2 y el abiword de ximian, he copiado
algunas fuentes ttf al directorio de donde xfstt las lee. Sé que funciona
pues en Sylpheed por ejemplo al elegir la fuente por defecto de la
aplicación veo las ttf pero en el cuadro de fuentes de abiword siguen
saliendo solamente las que ya venían. Alguna ayuda, por favor?

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Re: Xfstt problems?

2001-09-20 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 10:58:34AM +0200, Peczöli Zoltán ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I'm experiencing problems with the xfstt package, not sure if it's a
 bug so i thought i would ask you folks here before reporting one.
 
 Installing xfstt I follow the guide in the mini FAQ of TT-Debian. xlsfonts
 successfully lists all the *-ttf-* fonts I installed from the W*s
 partition, so does fslsfont -server unix/:7101, so I suppose xfstt is
 working. In spite of all these, I still can't see my truetype fonts,
 neither in my applications, nor in xfontsel (in fact, xfontsel knows about
 the ttfs, but does not render them at all, even messes up the rendering
 view)

Can you describe how the fonts are malformed when displayed?

Post a screenshot (small) if possible of an effected application, to a
website if possible, on-list if necessary. 

Peace.

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Xfstt problems?

2001-09-18 Thread Peczöli Zoltán
Hi,

I'm experiencing problems with the xfstt package, not sure if it's a
bug so i thought i would ask you folks here before reporting one.

Installing xfstt I follow the guide in the mini FAQ of TT-Debian. xlsfonts
successfully lists all the *-ttf-* fonts I installed from the W*s
partition, so does fslsfont -server unix/:7101, so I suppose xfstt is
working. In spite of all these, I still can't see my truetype fonts,
neither in my applications, nor in xfontsel (in fact, xfontsel knows about
the ttfs, but does not render them at all, even messes up the rendering
view)

If someone has any suggestions, please cc me, I'm not on the list.

Thanx,
  Pocok



Re: More problems with xfstt

2001-08-21 Thread Andrew Perrin
Thanks for this pointer - as it turns out, you're right; a barcode font
was the first returned when xfstt was on.  I've fixed it like this; a
hack, but it makes things work right:

1.) Make a new font directory:
mkdir /usr/lib/X11/fonts/default

2.) Put the default font in it:
cd /usr/lib/X11/fonts/default
ln -s ../misc/10x20.pcf.gz

3.) Edit /etc/X11/XF86Config:
Section Files
RgbPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb
FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/default/:unscaled
FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/default/
FontPathunix/:7101
FontPathunix/:7100
...


That causes non-picky applications (e.g., those that just use the first
font available) to be assigned the default (10x20), since it's the first
one returned by the fonts system.

Thanks for your help,
Andy

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On Mon, 20 Aug 2001, Alan Shutko wrote:

 Andrew Perrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  But the same problem is popping up in other places, including xdvi
  and xfontsel.  In both of these places, all buttons and menus are
  displayed in a barcode font, making them unusable to anyone without
  a photographic memory.
 
 If you don't specify a default font for many apps, they'll choose the
 first one they see in the list.  This is often bad.  Unfortunately, I
 know of no way to change the order of the list (it's not based on
 directory order in the search path, afaict), so I just added a 
 
 *font: fixed
 
 to my .Xdefaults.
 
 The reason it happens only on one machine and not the other, and only
 with xfstt, is that you have a TT font on one machine but not the
 other, and that's the one that showing up.
 
 Or, that's as far as I can tell.
 
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More problems with xfstt

2001-08-20 Thread Andrew Perrin
Well, I fixed the emacs problem I asked about earlier by specifying a
particular font for emacs menus. But the same problem is popping up in
other places, including xdvi and xfontsel.  In both of these places, all
buttons and menus are displayed in a barcode font, making them unusable to
anyone without a photographic memory. 

Can someone who understands font selection help with what might be
happening? This happens only when using truetype fonts via xfstt. When I
turn off xfstt, everything works as normal. Oddly enough, it happens only
on my office machine; my home machine is happy with xfstt.

Details:
- IBM Netvista A40
- nVidia video card
- Debian 2.2r3, all patches

Thanks.

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Re: More problems with xfstt

2001-08-20 Thread Alan Shutko
Andrew Perrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 But the same problem is popping up in other places, including xdvi
 and xfontsel.  In both of these places, all buttons and menus are
 displayed in a barcode font, making them unusable to anyone without
 a photographic memory.

If you don't specify a default font for many apps, they'll choose the
first one they see in the list.  This is often bad.  Unfortunately, I
know of no way to change the order of the list (it's not based on
directory order in the search path, afaict), so I just added a 

*font: fixed

to my .Xdefaults.

The reason it happens only on one machine and not the other, and only
with xfstt, is that you have a TT font on one machine but not the
other, and that's the one that showing up.

Or, that's as far as I can tell.

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Re: xfstt and emacs: weird fonts

2001-08-16 Thread Andrew Perrin
Interestingly enough, that didn't do it; I got the same thing as
before. However, this did:

Emacs*menubar*background: gray
Emacs*menubar*font: -misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed--0-0-75-75-c-0-iso8859-1
Emacs*menu*font: -misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed--0-0-75-75-c-0-iso8859-1
Emacs*menu*background: gray


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On Wed, 15 Aug 2001, Alan Shutko wrote:

 Andrew Perrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Has anyone experienced this before? Any way to get emacs to use a
  somewhat more normal font for the menus?
 
 I use 
 
 Emacs*menubar*background: gray
 Emacs*menubar*font: -monotype-arial-medium-r-normal-*-*-90-*-*-p-*-iso8859-1
 Emacs*menu*font: -monotype-arial-medium-r-normal-*-*-90-*-*-p-*-iso8859-1
 Emacs*menu*background: gray
 
 in my .Xresources.
 
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xfstt and emacs: weird fonts

2001-08-15 Thread Andrew Perrin
Greetings-

I've just been experimenting with xfstt on my two machines (home and
work), each running debian linux 2.2r3 (kernel 2.2.17pre19) to be able
to use truetype fonts.  

At home, it worked fine until today.

At the office, emacs' menus showed up in a bizarre, bar-code font that
made emacs impossible to use. I turned off xfstt (actually just took
out the line that set X to use xfstt) and the problem went away.

Today, I had to reboot my home machine (first time in several weeks)
and when I did so, the emacs menus showed up in another strange
truetype font (looks like old west saloon writing).  It's useable, but
very odd.

Has anyone experienced this before? Any way to get emacs to use a
somewhat more normal font for the menus?

Thanks.


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Re: xfstt and emacs: weird fonts

2001-08-15 Thread Alan Shutko
Andrew Perrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Has anyone experienced this before? Any way to get emacs to use a
 somewhat more normal font for the menus?

I use 

Emacs*menubar*background: gray
Emacs*menubar*font: -monotype-arial-medium-r-normal-*-*-90-*-*-p-*-iso8859-1
Emacs*menu*font: -monotype-arial-medium-r-normal-*-*-90-*-*-p-*-iso8859-1
Emacs*menu*background: gray

in my .Xresources.

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xfstt kills emacs

2001-08-09 Thread Andrew Perrin
I finally got around to using some truetype fonts, following the
directions in the truetype fonts under debian mini HOWTO.  Everything
worked fine (all the way through the fslsfonts business), and the truetype
fonts made Netscape look much prettier. Unfortunately though, they killed
emacs! The menu titles are displayed in a very tall, barcode font, making
them both illegible and take up half the screen. If I comment out the
FontPath unix/:7101 line in XF86Config and restart X, emacs is fine, so
I'm pretty sure it's the truetype that's causing the problem.

Specifics:

Debian 2.2r3, kernel 2.2.17pre19 (compiled here)
Gnu Emacs 20.7.2

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xfstt in Debian

2001-04-22 Thread Michael P. Soulier
So, I installed xfstt, and I followed the instructions in the Debian mini
HOWTO for setting up truetypes. Now, when I try to start X, I get an error
about not being able to find the default font, fixed. 

Section Files
RgbPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb
FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled
FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled
FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc/:unscaled
FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic/:unscaled
FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/
FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/
FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc/
FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic/
FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/
FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/
FontPathunix/:7101
FontPathunix/:7100
ModulePath /usr/X11R6/lib/modules
EndSection

Both servers are running. fslsfonts -server unix/:7101 returns my
installed truetype fonts. 

How can servers that are only supposed to add fonts to the available list,
remove fonts from being available?? If I comment out the 7101 line for xfstt,
X starts up fine. 

Help?

Mike

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Re: X/xfstt won't render truetype fonts -- SOLVED

2001-01-22 Thread Viktor Rosenfeld
mike polniak wrote:

 You may have to re-create the fonts.scale and fonts.dir.

Never mind.  I copied the fonts again from a fresh Win98 install,
resynced xfstt and now everything works fine.  Dunno, why it wouldn't
work before.

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Re: X/xfstt won't render truetype fonts

2001-01-18 Thread mike polniak
Viktor Rosenfeld wrote:
 mike polniak wrote:
 
  Check the paths to search for fonts in the font server config file.
   Mine are located in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType.
 
 The default dir here is /usr/share/fonts/truetype.  I have 16 TTF files
 there and `xfstt --sync` will find them all:
 
   # xfstt --sync
   xfstt: sync in directory /usr/share/fonts/truetype/.
   Found 16 fonts.
   #
 
 `xlsfonts` will list them, but they won't render in X.  X reverts to
 some default font, fixed I think.

You may have to re-create the fonts.scale and fonts.dir.
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Re: X/xfstt won't render truetype fonts

2001-01-18 Thread Viktor Rosenfeld
mike polniak wrote:

 Check the paths to search for fonts in the font server config file.
  Mine are located in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType.

The default dir here is /usr/share/fonts/truetype.  I have 16 TTF files
there and `xfstt --sync` will find them all:

# xfstt --sync
xfstt: sync in directory /usr/share/fonts/truetype/.
Found 16 fonts.
#

`xlsfonts` will list them, but they won't render in X.  X reverts to
some default font, fixed I think.

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Re: X/xfstt won't render truetype fonts

2001-01-18 Thread Viktor Rosenfeld
mike polniak wrote:

# xfstt --sync
xfstt: sync in directory /usr/share/fonts/truetype/.
Found 16 fonts.
#
 
  `xlsfonts` will list them, but they won't render in X.  X reverts to
  some default font, fixed I think.
 
 You may have to re-create the fonts.scale and fonts.dir.

There has never been a fonts.scale and fonts.dir file on my old machine
regarding true type fonts.  Also, putting the following into fonts.scale
and running `mkfontdir` did not produce a meaningfull fonts.dir file:

arial.ttf -ttf-arial-medium-r-normal-tt-18-240-75-75-p-123-iso8859-1

Still no luck.
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X/xfstt won't render truetype fonts

2001-01-17 Thread Viktor Rosenfeld
Hi all,

I've been using true type fonts with xfstt on my slink machine for years
now without troubles.  Recently I installed potato on a new machine,
copied the fonts from the old machine into /usr/share/fonts/truetype and
did:

# /etc/init.d/xfstt stop
# xfstt --sync
# /etc/init.d/xfstt start
# xset fp+ unix/:7101

This shows no error messages, but I still can't use true type fonts. 
`xlsfonts` will list them and I can select them in `xfontsel`.  However,
the rendering of the example text in `xfontsel` won't change when
selecting a truetype font.  (It changes when I select any other font.)

Any ideas what I could be missing?

Thanks,
Viktor
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Re: X/xfstt won't render truetype fonts

2001-01-17 Thread mike polniak
-Viktor Rosenfeld wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I've been using true type fonts with xfstt on my slink machine for years
 now without troubles.  Recently I installed potato on a new machine,
 copied the fonts from the old machine into /usr/share/fonts/truetype and
 did:
 
   # /etc/init.d/xfstt stop
   # xfstt --sync
   # /etc/init.d/xfstt start
   # xset fp+ unix/:7101
 
 This shows no error messages, but I still can't use true type fonts. 
 `xlsfonts` will list them and I can select them in `xfontsel`.  However,
 the rendering of the example text in `xfontsel` won't change when
 selecting a truetype font.  (It changes when I select any other font.)
 
 Any ideas what I could be missing?

Check the paths to search for fonts in the font server config file.
 Mine are located in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType.
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xfstt??

2001-01-16 Thread Xucaen

--- David B. Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 'xfs' is the X Font Server. I'm not *positive*
 about what ths has over
 the regular way X handles fonts, but I use
 'xfstt', which handles
 truetype fonts.
 


is xfstt a font server that can be used in place
of xfs?

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Re: xfstt??

2001-01-16 Thread David B . Harris
To quote Xucaen [EMAIL PROTECTED],
# is xfstt a font server that can be used in place
# of xfs?

I don't know if it can be used in place of xfs, but I know it can be
used alongside xfs. I've got plenty of resources to burn on my machine,
so I've never tried setting up xfstt to handle all my fonts. It just
handles the TrueType sort.

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Re: xfstt??

2001-01-16 Thread Hall Stevenson
  'xfs' is the X Font Server. I'm not *positive*
  about what ths has over
  the regular way X handles fonts, but I use
  'xfstt', which handles
  truetype fonts.
 


 is xfstt a font server that can be used in place
 of xfs?

I believe that xfstt is a font server for TrueType fonts *only*, hence
the tt in it's name. If you're running XFree86 v4.x, you don't need it
either.


Regards
Hall



Re: xfstt??

2001-01-16 Thread mike
On at 10:44 on Tue 16 Jan, Hall Stevenson wrote:
   'xfs' is the X Font Server. I'm not *positive*
   about what ths has over
   the regular way X handles fonts, but I use
   'xfstt', which handles
   truetype fonts.
  
 
 
  is xfstt a font server that can be used in place
  of xfs?
 
 I believe that xfstt is a font server for TrueType fonts *only*, hence
 the tt in it's name. If you're running XFree86 v4.x, you don't need it
 either.

There is a third option xfs-xtt which replaces xfs for normal fonts
and xfstt for TrueType fonts. I use it with XFree-4 and the biggest
difference is that the fonts in Netscape are scaled properly and look good.
This is what the docs say:

This package provide X-TrueType font server. This is compatible  normal X
font server, but added X-TrueType font handling scheme support instead of
FreeType backend. XFree86 4.0's font server can handle TrueType too, but it
can not handle TTCap. By using TTCap description, support for font
transformations, such as slanting, adjusting glyph width, pseudo-bolding,
etc.
  
-- 

~~~



Re: Cannot use TrueType fonts (xfstt)

2000-12-27 Thread Hall Stevenson
* Richard Cobbe ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [001226 15:45]:
   Did you add xfstt to your X server's font path?  In /etc/X11/XF86Config,
   section Files, the following line should work for the default setup:
   
   FontPath   unix/:7101
   
   See also /usr/doc/xfstt/FAQ.gz, esp question 1.2.
  
  I've tried adding the following:
  
  FontPath  unix/:7101# truetype font server
  FontPath  tcp/127.0.0.1:7101
  FontPath  inet/127.0.0.1:7101
  
  all seperately (with two of the three commented out each try). Using
  the inetc/127.0.0.1... line *does* cause TT fonts to work, but various
  windows take *too* long to open up. Mutt, for example, opens up almost
  instantly in it's normal Eterm window, but no text shows up for at least
  15 seconds (if not longer).
 
 What error message do you get off the unix:/7101 entry?  (This should be
 written to the terminal from which you start X.)

According to /var/log/XFree86.0.log, *none* ;-). Everything works, just very, 
very slowly...

Also affected are (3) epplets that I have running under Enlightenment.

Hall



Re: Cannot use TrueType fonts (xfstt)

2000-12-27 Thread Hall Stevenson
* John Foster ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [001226 19:42]:
 Richard Cobbe wrote:
 
   all seperately (with two of the three commented out each try). Using
   the inetc/127.0.0.1... line *does* cause TT fonts to work, but various
   windows take *too* long to open up. Mutt, for example, opens up almost
   instantly in it's normal Eterm window, but no text shows up for at least
   15 seconds (if not longer).
 ---

 I think the mutt will not use any of the fonts designated by your
 xserver fonts system. It uses those from console-tools and the basic
 system font.

Actually, I have mutt running in an Eterm window and I tell Eterm to use the 
bright font, which does exist in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc

I've tried playing with the order of my FontPath entries with no success so far.

Regards
Hall Stevenson



Re: Cannot use TrueType fonts (xfstt)

2000-12-26 Thread Hall Stevenson
* Richard Cobbe ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [001225 21:03]:

 Did you add xfstt to your X server's font path?  In /etc/X11/XF86Config,
 section Files, the following line should work for the default setup:
 
 FontPath   unix/:7101
 
 See also /usr/doc/xfstt/FAQ.gz, esp question 1.2.

I've tried adding the following:

FontPath  unix/:7101# truetype font server
FontPath  tcp/127.0.0.1:7101
FontPath  inet/127.0.0.1:7101

all seperately (with two of the three commented out each try). Using the 
inetc/127.0.0.1... line *does* cause TT fonts to work, but various windows 
take *too* long to open up. Mutt, for example, opens up almost instantly in 
it's normal Eterm window, but no text shows up for at least 15 seconds (if not 
longer).

Any ideas there ??

Regards
Hall



Re: Cannot use TrueType fonts (xfstt)

2000-12-26 Thread Richard Cobbe
Lo, on Tuesday, December 26, Hall Stevenson did write:

 * Richard Cobbe ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [001225 21:03]:
 
  Did you add xfstt to your X server's font path?  In /etc/X11/XF86Config,
  section Files, the following line should work for the default setup:
  
  FontPath   unix/:7101
  
  See also /usr/doc/xfstt/FAQ.gz, esp question 1.2.
 
 I've tried adding the following:
 
 FontPath  unix/:7101# truetype font server
 FontPath  tcp/127.0.0.1:7101
 FontPath  inet/127.0.0.1:7101
 
 all seperately (with two of the three commented out each try). Using
 the inetc/127.0.0.1... line *does* cause TT fonts to work, but various
 windows take *too* long to open up. Mutt, for example, opens up almost
 instantly in it's normal Eterm window, but no text shows up for at least
 15 seconds (if not longer).

What error message do you get off the unix:/7101 entry?  (This should be
written to the terminal from which you start X.)

Richard



Re: Cannot use TrueType fonts (xfstt)

2000-12-26 Thread John Foster
Richard Cobbe wrote:

  all seperately (with two of the three commented out each try). Using
  the inetc/127.0.0.1... line *does* cause TT fonts to work, but various
  windows take *too* long to open up. Mutt, for example, opens up almost
  instantly in it's normal Eterm window, but no text shows up for at least
  15 seconds (if not longer).
---
I think the mutt will not use any of the fonts designated by your
xserver fonts system. It uses those from console-tools and the basic
system font.
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Cannot use TrueType fonts (xfstt)

2000-12-25 Thread Patrick Schnorbus
Hi,

I´ve just installed xfstt, put some TrueType Fonts in 
/usr/share/fonts/truetype and updated the xfstt fonts list.
But i can´t use the fonts. First I tried them to use with konqueror, then 
with the GIMP, but in no program they are available. xfstt-daemon is running.
any hints?

Patrick



Re: Cannot use TrueType fonts (xfstt)

2000-12-25 Thread kmself
on Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 02:38:56AM +0100, Patrick Schnorbus ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I´ve just installed xfstt, put some TrueType Fonts in 
 /usr/share/fonts/truetype and updated the xfstt fonts list.
 But i can´t use the fonts. First I tried them to use with konqueror, then 
 with the GIMP, but in no program they are available. xfstt-daemon is running.
 any hints?

xset fp+ unix/:7101

...should be in ~/.xinitrc or /etc/X11/Xsession.

You can also run it from the command line of a shell within your X
session.

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Re: Cannot use TrueType fonts (xfstt)

2000-12-25 Thread Richard Cobbe
Lo, on Tuesday, December 26, Patrick Schnorbus did write:

 Hi,
 
 I´ve just installed xfstt, put some TrueType Fonts in 
 /usr/share/fonts/truetype and updated the xfstt fonts list.
 But i can´t use the fonts. First I tried them to use with konqueror, then 
 with the GIMP, but in no program they are available. xfstt-daemon is running.
 any hints?

Did you add xfstt to your X server's font path?  In /etc/X11/XF86Config,
section Files, the following line should work for the default setup:

FontPath   unix/:7101

See also /usr/doc/xfstt/FAQ.gz, esp question 1.2.

Richard



Highendian X-Terminal and lowendian xfstt

2000-10-08 Thread Jan Ulrich Hasecke
Hi debian!

I had problems to see truetype fonts on my sparcLX, which I use as a
X-Terminal. The fontserver is xfstt and runs on my Intel-PC. Someone
gave me the hint that sun is bigendian and intel lowendian so that
xfstt will never work.

Will xfs-xtt do the job?

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Re: fonts scaling w/h xfstt

2000-10-06 Thread Wayne Topa

Subject: Re: fonts scaling w/h xfstt
Date: Thu, Oct 05, 2000 at 03:30:23PM -0400

In reply to:mike

Quoting mike([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
   I  needed two utilities: 'ttmkfdir' and 'mkfontdir' to do this
 in Mandrake before i started using Debian. However. i have
 been unable to locate mkfontdir since then.
   If anyone can point me to 'mkfontdir' i'd appreciate it.
 Then its just a matter running 'ttmkfdir' to create a file called
 fonts.scale, which is used by 'mkfontdir' to create the new font
 files in fonts.dir and then adding this to font path.
 

VT2 root-Deb-Potato:~# dpkg -S mkfontdir
xbase-clients: /usr/X11R6/bin/mkfontdir
xbase-clients: /usr/X11R6/man/man1/mkfontdir.1x.gz

dists/potato/main/binary-i386/x11/xbase-clients_3.3.6-10.deb

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fonts scaling w/h xfstt

2000-10-05 Thread Joel Dinel
I've got xfstt up and running and serving me with nice TrueType fonts. Now, is 
there a way to scale those fonts ? Right now I can only seem to get one default 
size. I remember having scaled TTF under RedHat. I'm sure there's a way to do 
it in Debian, I just don't know how...

Thanks !




Re: fonts scaling w/h xfstt

2000-10-05 Thread mike
I  needed two utilities: 'ttmkfdir' and 'mkfontdir' to do this
in Mandrake before i started using Debian. However. i have
been unable to locate mkfontdir since then.
If anyone can point me to 'mkfontdir' i'd appreciate it.
Then its just a matter running 'ttmkfdir' to create a file called
fonts.scale, which is used by 'mkfontdir' to create the new font
files in fonts.dir and then adding this to font path.


On Thu, 5 Oct 2000 06:15:16 -0400, Joel Dinel said:

 I've got xfstt up and running and serving me with nice TrueType fonts. Now, 
 is there a way to scale those fonts ? Right now I can only seem to get one 
 default size. I remember having scaled TTF under RedHat. I'm sure there's a 
 way to do it in Debian, I just don't know how...
fdir  
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xfstt listening on *:7101

2000-09-23 Thread Jonas Moberg
According to lsof, my xfstt is listening on *:7101.
xfs on the other hand does not. I noticed the 
no-listen = tcp in /etc/X11/xfs/config and was
just wondering if there was something similar for
xfstt. Couldn't seem to find any in the manpage..
Or perhaps this would be a reason to switch to xfs-xtt?
(if it supports what I'm looking for that is..)




Re: xfstt gives only one true type font size

2000-08-22 Thread mike


I have set up xfstt and am able to use true type fonts but when i 
choose a font , e.g. in Netscape i get only one font size to choose
from (listed as size 0).
When i set up true type fonts in Linux/Mandrake I also created 
a fonts.dir and fonts.scale in the truetype directory and then had
a choice of font sizes.
The Debian How-To doesn't mention creating fonts.dir and
fonts.scale  and using mkfontdir just created an empty file.
What is missing to produce multiple ttf sizes?
 
On Sun, 20 Aug 2000, Nate Bargmann wrote:

 Hi Mike.
 
 Sorry for the delay in my reply.  My finding was that xfstt did a better
 job with the TT fonts than xfs-xtt as xfs-xtt seemed to be more ragged
 than with xfstt.  Also, with xfstt, the Netscape and Mozilla text
 displays are larger, which is a big help on a 14 inch LCD locked in
 1024x768 mode.  I recommend xfstt as it is also a simpler install.
 The TT-Debian mini-HOWTO will do a good job of leading you through
 the steps of getting xfstt running.
 
 Feel free to ask any questions if you want to know how I implemented
 it here.
 
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xfstt the Gimp

2000-08-21 Thread Erik Mathisen
Hi, 

I have xfstt running and a bunch of fonts copied into
/usr/share/fonts/truetype/  First question, do I have to do anything
besides having the .ttf in the directory and running xfstt?  Second
question, how do I get the Gimp to see these fonts?

Thanks in advance,

Erik



Re: xfs-xtt or xfstt --which font server for potato

2000-08-19 Thread Henrique M Holschuh
   Whats the difference and which is better? Just looking for some clues
 before i make the changes.

xfs-xtt is better for very big, unicode fonts (hint: most far east ones).
If you like configuring fonts, it allows you to do some font transforms as
well.

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xfs-xtt or xfstt --which font server for potato

2000-08-18 Thread mike

My recent Debian potato installed xfs-xtt as the font server. I also see
another 
very similar font server pkg named xfstt. 
Whats the difference and which is better? Just looking for some clues
before i
make the changes.

On Thu, 17 Aug 2000, Nate Bargmann wrote:
 Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 22:11:05 -0500
 
 

 
 I've had good success after following the TT-Debian mini-HOWTO which
 demonstrates installing xfstt and a number of True-Type fonts.  NS
 will use them and I found it to make a tremendous difference.  Also,
 I've found that the latest builds of Mozilla use TT fonts even better
 than NS, so it really is a good solution.  There is another True Type
 font server that Potato wants to install that depends on the FreeType
 library.  My results weren't satisfactory so I went back to xfstt.
 

 
 
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RE: xfs+xfstt or xfs-xtt

2000-08-14 Thread Konstantinos E Maras
I ve done this change a few weeks ago.
Both worked fine for me.
I believe that (xfs + xfstt) use less memory than xfs-xtt,
right now on my system RSS of xfs-xtt is ~3.5K
but this seems to depend on configuration 
and usage (how many TTF requests from your apps)
Main advantages for me:
- I can use font aliases now for the TTFs
 (i need that to properly display greek sites in Netscape)
- A little better rendering
 (maybe just my imagination, dont count on this)
Difficulties:
Not many,
although documentation of xfs-xtt seems a little scary at first glance.
I just wrote a fonts.dir by hand with entries like:

arial.ttf -ttf-arial-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-1

I made also a relevant fonts.alias
put them together with all TTFs in a directory
Then add the directory name in xfs catalogue
(/etc/X11/xfs/config)
and restart xfs.
I still dont fully understand the dpi-relevant options of the story
currently i have to add a -dpi 100 in my startx command
to see TTFs a little bigger on my screen.

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On 13-Aug-2000 Jan Ulrich Hasecke wrote:
 Hi!
 
 I am currently running xfs + xfstt on Potato with xserver-i128. Would
 you recommend to change to xfs-xtt? Does it uses less memory? What
 advantages are there?  Are there problems changing the Font Server?
 
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xfs+xfstt or xfs-xtt

2000-08-13 Thread Jan Ulrich Hasecke
Hi!

I am currently running xfs + xfstt on Potato with xserver-i128. Would
you recommend to change to xfs-xtt? Does it uses less memory? What
advantages are there?  Are there problems changing the Font Server?

TIA
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xfstt and font not available

2000-08-04 Thread Matthew Davis
Hi all,

I have just wiped my system and reinstalled Debian (thanks completely to
Windows 2000 and my dual booting).  I was attempting to setup my
truetype fonts for use in X, and I seem to be doing something wrong.
Here's what I've done and what it happening:

Copied /WINNT/Fonts/* /user/share/fonts/truetype to obtain the font
library.

apt-get install xfstt

added the quoted line to /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc
xset fp+ unix/:7101

restarted xfstt daemon with . /etc/init.d/xfstt restart

And here's what happens:

I am running Helix-gnome, so I go into gnomecc to change my default
fonts.  When I hit browse to select a font, and highlight any of the
new ttf fonts (they do appear in the font list), I am told the font is
not available and the default 'fixed' font is used in it's place.

The same phenomenon occurs in both Mozilla M16-1 and in Netscape, and
seemingly any GTK program (i.e. Gnotepad+)

Have I left something out?  I don't know what is wrong.  It obvisouly
sees the path.  I have also tried running X as root, and that doesn't
work either; root gets the same errors as user.

Thanks in adavance for any help.

Matt



Re: xfstt and font not available

2000-08-04 Thread Eric G . Miller
On Fri, Aug 04, 2000 at 09:18:47PM -0500, Matthew Davis wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I have just wiped my system and reinstalled Debian (thanks completely to
 Windows 2000 and my dual booting).  I was attempting to setup my
 truetype fonts for use in X, and I seem to be doing something wrong.
 Here's what I've done and what it happening:
 
 Copied /WINNT/Fonts/* /user/share/fonts/truetype to obtain the font
 library.
 
 apt-get install xfstt
 
 added the quoted line to /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc
 xset fp+ unix/:7101

I don't think that is the preffered way to set a FontPath globally.  Try
putting the line:

FontPath  unix/:7101

in /etc/X11/XF86Config  in the Files section.  Then stop X, restart
xfstt, and restart X to see if it works.  Everything else you did looks
correct.

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Re: xfstt package and fonts; xfstt and xfs-xtt

2000-06-01 Thread Viktor Rosenfeld
Antonio Rodriguez wrote:

 I have been looking at the info xfstt, and i really didn't understand whats
 that with xset fp+ unix/:7101
 Can you explain what this means, and what exactly I have to do?

Okay, this is of the top of my head, because I don't have Linux at
work.  The X server can get his fonts from a directory or over a network
connection.  So the fp+ tells the X-Server to look for fonts in an
additional location and the unix/:7101 tells him where to look.

I think you have to issue that command as root, after starting X.  So to
try out xfstt, do the following in a xterm:

xfstt  -- start xfstt in the background
-- wait a couple of seconds
xset fp+ unix/:7101 -- add the new fontpath

After that you should have true type fonts until you end your current X
session.

If you like xfstt, you can automate that job, by installing an init
script that starts xfstt at boot time (which Debian does for you if you
install xfstt from dselect or apt-get) and adding the unix/:7101 to
your fontpath in the global XF86Config file (which you have to do
yourself).  Man XF86Config should help you with the latter.

Hope that helps,
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xfstt package and fonts; xfstt and xfs-xtt

2000-05-30 Thread Antonio Rodriguez
It is said there that you must get the fonts separately for xfstt to
work. Can you use the fonts from windows? If so, how do you do it? Or
otherwise, how do you get the fonts?
Which is better, xfstt or xfs-xtt, since they seem to conflict with one
another?



Re: xfstt package and fonts; xfstt and xfs-xtt

2000-05-30 Thread Joseph de los Santos
Hello, there is a mini-howto for installing ttf for debian and you can find 
all the information you need to know there. the link is

http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/mini/TT-Debian.html#toc6

Good Luck.



Re: xfstt package and fonts; xfstt and xfs-xtt

2000-05-30 Thread kmself
On Tue, May 30, 2000 at 08:31:54PM +, Antonio Rodriguez wrote:
 It is said there that you must get the fonts separately for xfstt to
 work. 

Yes.

 Can you use the fonts from windows? 

Yes.

 If so, how do you do it? 

Copy your MS Windows fonts to some location, you can copy them
directly or archive them first (winzip, tar, or other multiplatform
utility).  Copy or unarchive them into a folder.  Default is, IIRC,
/usr/share/fonts/truetype.

Note that the MS EULA for fonts specifically allows their use on
different machines.  Some of the fonts, however, don't render for me.

 Or otherwise, how do you get the fonts?

There are various sources of TT fonts, including websites, CDs available
at office supply stores, peddlers on street corners, large men in dark
alleys  Just copy the *.ttf files to the appropriate directory.

You'll then need to tell the font server you've got fonts.  RTFM.

 Which is better, xfstt or xfs-xtt, since they seem to conflict with one
 another?

Whichever works for you.  I'm running xfstt.  There is TT support built
directly in to XFree86 v4, you won't need a third-party font server for
this.

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xfstt question

2000-04-09 Thread john smith
I have managed to install xfstt and xfs since I can verify them using (both 
as root and user accounts)
$fslsfonts -server unix/:7100 fslsfonts -server/:7101. /etc/init.d/xfs or 
xfstt restart works properly. my problem is when trying to verify them using 
xlsfonts | grep ttf so that the server sees all of them..but it does'nt see 
any fonts what could be the problem?

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Re: xfstt question

2000-04-09 Thread Lehel Bernadt
On Sun, 09 Apr 2000, john smith wrote:
 I have managed to install xfstt and xfs since I can verify them using (both 
 as root and user accounts)
 $fslsfonts -server unix/:7100 fslsfonts -server/:7101. /etc/init.d/xfs or 
 xfstt restart works properly. my problem is when trying to verify them using 
 xlsfonts | grep ttf so that the server sees all of them..but it does'nt see 
 any fonts what could be the problem?

Did you set up the xfstt font directory ?
(or : have you RTFM ?)


Re: xfs vs xfstt vs native

2000-02-15 Thread Joey Hess
Eric G . Miller wrote:
 Personally, xfs doesn't make any sense unless you're sharing fonts to
 other machines.

Not really true. If you've ever been say, using the Gimp, and decided to
enter some text in a very large font, and then been annoyed when X locked up
for a minute to render that font, you are a prime candidate for running a
standalone xfs.

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Re: xfs vs xfstt vs native

2000-02-09 Thread dan
On Tue, Feb 08, 2000 at 02:59:24PM -0600, Kent West wrote:
 Not exactly Debian-specific
 
 Can anyone point me to some layman's=style docs concerning
 xfs vs xfstt vs using native Linux fonts? I've read the
 DeUglification mini-Howto, but it didn't make clear whether
 you'd want to use xfs or xfstt or both or what.
 
 It seems to me that the use of xfs/xfstt for true-type font
 support is sort of like cheating, i.e. Linux uses its own
 native fonts and you shouldn't introduce a foreign font
 system to it.
 
 Thanks for any input.
 
 
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END OF QUOTE

I am running both xfs and xfstt. You can specify where X will get its fonts 
from in XF86Config. TTF fonts render much better, so it's nice to use them 
whenever you want or have to. One excellent example is Netscape. If you are on 
a network, you can set up a centralized font server, and point all your X 
servers to that server.


Re: xfs vs xfstt vs native

2000-02-09 Thread Eric G . Miller
On Tue, Feb 08, 2000 at 06:45:19PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, Feb 08, 2000 at 02:59:24PM -0600, Kent West wrote:
  Not exactly Debian-specific
  
  Can anyone point me to some layman's=style docs concerning
  xfs vs xfstt vs using native Linux fonts? I've read the
  DeUglification mini-Howto, but it didn't make clear whether
  you'd want to use xfs or xfstt or both or what.
  
  It seems to me that the use of xfs/xfstt for true-type font
  support is sort of like cheating, i.e. Linux uses its own
  native fonts and you shouldn't introduce a foreign font
  system to it.
  
  Thanks for any input.
 END OF QUOTE
 
 I am running both xfs and xfstt. You can specify where X will get its
 fonts from in XF86Config. TTF fonts render much better, so it's nice
 to use them whenever you want or have to. One excellent example is
 Netscape. If you are on a network, you can set up a centralized font
 server, and point all your X servers to that server.
 

Personally, xfs doesn't make any sense unless you're sharing fonts to
other machines. However, xfstt or xfs-tt are really the only way to have
TT fonts displayed.  Since there's no English documents for xfs-tt, I
used xfstt (which is quite easy).  There's a preliminary font HOWTO
here: http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/font_howto/html .

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Re: xfs vs xfstt vs native

2000-02-09 Thread Howard Mann
Eric G . Miller wrote:
 
 On Tue, Feb 08, 2000 at 06:45:19PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Tue, Feb 08, 2000 at 02:59:24PM -0600, Kent West wrote:
   Not exactly Debian-specific
  
   Can anyone point me to some layman's=style docs concerning
   xfs vs xfstt vs using native Linux fonts? I've read the
   DeUglification mini-Howto, but it didn't make clear whether
   you'd want to use xfs or xfstt or both or what.
  
   It seems to me that the use of xfs/xfstt for true-type font
   support is sort of like cheating, i.e. Linux uses its own
   native fonts and you shouldn't introduce a foreign font
   system to it.
  
   Thanks for any input.
  END OF QUOTE
 
  I am running both xfs and xfstt. You can specify where X will get its
  fonts from in XF86Config. TTF fonts render much better, so it's nice
  to use them whenever you want or have to. One excellent example is
  Netscape. If you are on a network, you can set up a centralized font
  server, and point all your X servers to that server.
 
 
 Personally, xfs doesn't make any sense unless you're sharing fonts to
 other machines. However, xfstt or xfs-tt are really the only way to have
 TT fonts displayed.  Since there's no English documents for xfs-tt, I
 used xfstt (which is quite easy).  There's a preliminary font HOWTO
 here: http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/font_howto/html .



Here is another great reference :

http://www.dimensional.com/~bgiles/debian-tt.html#toc3

Cheers,


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xfs vs xfstt vs native

2000-02-08 Thread Kent West
Not exactly Debian-specific

Can anyone point me to some layman's=style docs concerning
xfs vs xfstt vs using native Linux fonts? I've read the
DeUglification mini-Howto, but it didn't make clear whether
you'd want to use xfs or xfstt or both or what.

It seems to me that the use of xfs/xfstt for true-type font
support is sort of like cheating, i.e. Linux uses its own
native fonts and you shouldn't introduce a foreign font
system to it.

Thanks for any input.


Re: xfstt and xfs-xtt

2000-01-31 Thread Shao Zhang
Nathan E Norman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, 27 Jan 2000, Shao Zhang wrote:
 
  : Hi,
  :Can someone please explain the difference between the two??
 
 xfstt is a hack; it runs on a different port than xfs.
 
 xfs-xtt is intended to replace xfs and serve up TrueType fonts as well
 as the standard X fonts.

Then shouldn't xfs-xtt replace both xfs-tt and xfs rather than
just xfs-tt??

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Re: xfstt and xfs-xtt

2000-01-28 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Thu, 27 Jan 2000, Shao Zhang wrote:

 : Hi,
 :  Can someone please explain the difference between the two??

xfstt is a hack; it runs on a different port than xfs.

xfs-xtt is intended to replace xfs and serve up TrueType fonts as well
as the standard X fonts.

xfstt is pretty easy to set up.

xfs-xtt is somewhat difficult to set up, mostly due to lack of
documentation in a language I can read (it's written in Japan).  It
works well though!

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xfstt and xfs-xtt

2000-01-27 Thread Shao Zhang
Hi,
Can someone please explain the difference between the two??
Thanks.

Shao.

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Re: xfstt and xfs-xtt

2000-01-27 Thread Henrique M Holschuh
Hi Shao!

On Thu, 27 Jan 2000, Shao Zhang wrote:
   Can someone please explain the difference between the two??
   Thanks.

xfs-xtt is better for dealing with CJK fonts, and can also do some
transformations (such as bold, slant...)

For western fonts, xfstt is probably enough. I personally use xfs-xtt.

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Re: xfstt and xfs-xtt

2000-01-27 Thread Chanop Silpa-Anan
Some what recently, Shao Zhang [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote about xfstt and xfs-xtt

:) Hi,
:) Can someone please explain the difference between the two??
:) Thanks.
:) 
:) Shao.
:) 
I have to use xfs-xtt inorfor to use tis620 encoding


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Re: xfstt vs. xfs-xtt

1999-11-22 Thread Dwayne C . Litzenberger
 Is there any program which lists all used ports? (Haven't this been
 asked before?)

Try lsof -i and lsof -U to see which sockets are bound.
 
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True type fonts and xfstt once again...

1999-09-24 Thread virtanen
On Thu, 23 Sep 1999, Aaron Stromas wrote:

After seeing the discussion concerning ttf fonts and xfstt Idecided to try
this thing as well. 

There was no problem to put the fonts in their position and reading the
FAG doc... 

But if I'll give the command 

'make xfstt  make install' 

The machine responds 'no rule to make target xfstt. Stop.' 

What is wrong?


'xfstt --sync' 

tells to have found the fonts.

-hv
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Re: True type fonts and xfstt once again...

1999-09-24 Thread Seth R Arnold
On Fri, Sep 24, 1999 at 10:24:45AM +0300, virtanen wrote:
 On Thu, 23 Sep 1999, Aaron Stromas wrote:
 
 After seeing the discussion concerning ttf fonts and xfstt Idecided to try
 this thing as well. 
 
 There was no problem to put the fonts in their position and reading the
 FAG doc... 
 
 But if I'll give the command 
 
 'make xfstt  make install' 
 
 The machine responds 'no rule to make target xfstt. Stop.' 
 
 What is wrong?

Absolutely nothing is wrong. :) Well, nothing is wrong with respect to that
error message. You do not actually need to compile and install xfstt, since
the .deb package already is compiled, and dpkg installs it for you in the
proper place.

you should be good to go, ready to use ttf. :)

 'xfstt --sync' 
 
 tells to have found the fonts.
 
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Re: true type fonts and xfstt (again)

1999-09-23 Thread Aaron Stromas
seth,

i've read and followed the faq before i asked for advice. the xfontsel -pattern
found no matches. xcoral is not on my system - what is it?

-a

Seth R Arnold wrote:

 Aaron, there is a bit more involved than just adding it to the config files.
 here is the relevant section snipped from /usr/doc/xfstt/FAQ.gz:

 1.1 How do I test it?
 mkdir /usr/share/fonts/truetype and put some *ttf fonts there, now run

 make xfstt  make install
 xfstt --sync
 xfstt 
 xset fp+ unix/:7101
 xlsfonts
 xcoral -fn TTM20_Times New Roman
 xfontsel -pattern -*-*-*-*-*-tt-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
 xset -fp unix/:7101

 If your X server cannot handle the unix protocol replace the
 unix/:7101 part by inet/127.0.0.1:7101 (assuming the machine
 running xfstt has 127.0.0.1 as internet address).

 1.2 How do I use it?
 Add unix/:7101 to the fontpath in your X11 configuration file.
 Start xfstt a few seconds before starting X11.

 Once you do these things, it will probably work nicer. :)

 On Wed, Sep 22, 1999 at 08:54:19AM -0400, Aaron Stromas wrote:
  hi,
 
  in an attempt to use the true type fonts i installed the xfstt, copied
  the fonts from a windows machine and added FontPath unix/:7101 to my
  XF86Config. unfortunately, my X server will not start. it quits with
  could not open default font 'fixed'.
 
  i have also tried this: 1) commented out the unix:7101 font path, 2)
  started x, 3) started xfstt (xfstt ), 4) added font path (xset fp+
  unix/:7101), and 5) ran xfontsel -pattern -*-*-*-*-tt-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
  which produced no match. it appears, i'm not getting the true type
  fonts.
 
  any explanations of what is wrong and how to correct the problem would
  be much appreciated.
 
  also, the windows font directory contain a bunch of *.fon which 'file'
  says is ms-dos executable. what is it? it has 8514fix.fon, so maybe it
  has something to do with the fixed font. quite a few font names are
  capitalised, does it matter?
 
  please, cc me, as for a variety of reasons, i'm not currently on the
  list. tia,
 
  -a
 
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Re: true type fonts and xfstt (again)

1999-09-23 Thread Seth R Arnold
Hmm. My next thought -- and I must apologize for asking -- have you actually
installed ttf files into /usr/share/fonts/truetype? And, are they named
*ttf? I got many of mine from a DOS machine, and it had many TTF files that
I renamed to ttf. (my machine has a nifty rename script, written by larry
wall in perl, and expanded upon by others, that does the renaming job very
nicely... :)

BTW, the *.fon files are not true-type. They are windows bitmap fonts. If
you have any of these in your /usr/share/fonts/truetype directory, it might
not hurt to delete them. I would hope such a silly thing wouldn't prevent
xfstt from working, but one never knows.

hth :)

On Thu, Sep 23, 1999 at 06:39:38AM -0400, Aaron Stromas wrote:
 seth,
 
 i've read and followed the faq before i asked for advice. the xfontsel 
 -pattern
 found no matches. xcoral is not on my system - what is it?
 
 -a
 
 Seth R Arnold wrote:
 
  Aaron, there is a bit more involved than just adding it to the config files.
  here is the relevant section snipped from /usr/doc/xfstt/FAQ.gz:
 
  1.1 How do I test it?
  mkdir /usr/share/fonts/truetype and put some *ttf fonts there, now 
  run
 
  make xfstt  make install
  xfstt --sync
  xfstt 
  xset fp+ unix/:7101
  xlsfonts
  xcoral -fn TTM20_Times New Roman
  xfontsel -pattern -*-*-*-*-*-tt-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
  xset -fp unix/:7101
 
  If your X server cannot handle the unix protocol replace the
  unix/:7101 part by inet/127.0.0.1:7101 (assuming the machine
  running xfstt has 127.0.0.1 as internet address).
 
  1.2 How do I use it?
  Add unix/:7101 to the fontpath in your X11 configuration file.
  Start xfstt a few seconds before starting X11.
 
  Once you do these things, it will probably work nicer. :)
 
  On Wed, Sep 22, 1999 at 08:54:19AM -0400, Aaron Stromas wrote:
   hi,
  
   in an attempt to use the true type fonts i installed the xfstt, copied
   the fonts from a windows machine and added FontPath unix/:7101 to my
   XF86Config. unfortunately, my X server will not start. it quits with
   could not open default font 'fixed'.
  
   i have also tried this: 1) commented out the unix:7101 font path, 2)
   started x, 3) started xfstt (xfstt ), 4) added font path (xset fp+
   unix/:7101), and 5) ran xfontsel -pattern -*-*-*-*-tt-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
   which produced no match. it appears, i'm not getting the true type
   fonts.
  
   any explanations of what is wrong and how to correct the problem would
   be much appreciated.
  
   also, the windows font directory contain a bunch of *.fon which 'file'
   says is ms-dos executable. what is it? it has 8514fix.fon, so maybe it
   has something to do with the fixed font. quite a few font names are
   capitalised, does it matter?
  
   please, cc me, as for a variety of reasons, i'm not currently on the
   list. tia,
  
   -a
  
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Re: true type fonts and xfstt (again)

1999-09-23 Thread Aaron Stromas
Seth R Arnold wrote:

 Hmm. My next thought -- and I must apologize for asking -- have you actually
 installed ttf files into /usr/share/fonts/truetype? And, are they named
 *ttf? I got many of mine from a DOS machine, and it had many TTF files that
 I renamed to ttf. (my machine has a nifty rename script, written by larry
 wall in perl, and expanded upon by others, that does the renaming job very
 nicely... :)

aha! i was wondering if i should rename them but i didn't. i don't have the 
script but
it should be just a couple of perl lines to this one thing. i followed the faq 
in
/usr/doc/xfstt plus there is a font deuglification minihowto. so i'm fairly 
sure i
didn't miss any necessary steps.



 BTW, the *.fon files are not true-type. They are windows bitmap fonts. If
 you have any of these in your /usr/share/fonts/truetype directory, it might
 not hurt to delete them. I would hope such a silly thing wouldn't prevent
 xfstt from working, but one never knows.

that's what they are! at first, i removed them, then when i got errors i put 
them
back.



 hth :)

so do i. thanks.

-a



 On Thu, Sep 23, 1999 at 06:39:38AM -0400, Aaron Stromas wrote:
  seth,
 
  i've read and followed the faq before i asked for advice. the xfontsel 
  -pattern
  found no matches. xcoral is not on my system - what is it?
 
  -a
 
  Seth R Arnold wrote:
 
   Aaron, there is a bit more involved than just adding it to the config 
   files.
   here is the relevant section snipped from /usr/doc/xfstt/FAQ.gz:
  
   1.1 How do I test it?
   mkdir /usr/share/fonts/truetype and put some *ttf fonts there, 
   now run
  
   make xfstt  make install
   xfstt --sync
   xfstt 
   xset fp+ unix/:7101
   xlsfonts
   xcoral -fn TTM20_Times New Roman
   xfontsel -pattern -*-*-*-*-*-tt-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
   xset -fp unix/:7101
  
   If your X server cannot handle the unix protocol replace the
   unix/:7101 part by inet/127.0.0.1:7101 (assuming the machine
   running xfstt has 127.0.0.1 as internet address).
  
   1.2 How do I use it?
   Add unix/:7101 to the fontpath in your X11 configuration file.
   Start xfstt a few seconds before starting X11.
  
   Once you do these things, it will probably work nicer. :)
  
   On Wed, Sep 22, 1999 at 08:54:19AM -0400, Aaron Stromas wrote:
hi,
   
in an attempt to use the true type fonts i installed the xfstt, copied
the fonts from a windows machine and added FontPath unix/:7101 to my
XF86Config. unfortunately, my X server will not start. it quits with
could not open default font 'fixed'.
   
i have also tried this: 1) commented out the unix:7101 font path, 2)
started x, 3) started xfstt (xfstt ), 4) added font path (xset fp+
unix/:7101), and 5) ran xfontsel -pattern -*-*-*-*-tt-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
which produced no match. it appears, i'm not getting the true type
fonts.
   
any explanations of what is wrong and how to correct the problem would
be much appreciated.
   
also, the windows font directory contain a bunch of *.fon which 'file'
says is ms-dos executable. what is it? it has 8514fix.fon, so maybe it
has something to do with the fixed font. quite a few font names are
capitalised, does it matter?
   
please, cc me, as for a variety of reasons, i'm not currently on the
list. tia,
   
-a
   
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Re: true type fonts and xfstt - solved

1999-09-23 Thread Aaron Stromas


when i typed 'fairly sure" before i hesitated a second. the problem was
xfstt runs on port 7101 but in XFConfig i managed to put 7100. one looks
but does not see... thanks again to all respondents,
-a
Aaron Stromas wrote:
Seth R Arnold wrote:
> Hmm. My next thought -- and I must apologize for asking -- have you
actually
> installed ttf files into /usr/share/fonts/truetype? And, are they
named
> *ttf? I got many of mine from a DOS machine, and it had many TTF
files that
> I renamed to ttf. (my machine has a nifty rename script, written
by larry
> wall in perl, and expanded upon by others, that does the renaming
job very
> nicely... :)
aha! i was wondering if i should rename them but i didn't. i don't have
the script but
it should be just a couple of perl lines to this one thing. i followed
the faq in
/usr/doc/xfstt plus there is a font deuglification minihowto. so i'm
fairly sure i
didn't miss any necessary steps.
>
>
> BTW, the *.fon files are not true-type. They are windows bitmap fonts.
If
> you have any of these in your /usr/share/fonts/truetype directory,
it might
> not hurt to delete them. I would hope such a silly thing wouldn't
prevent
> xfstt from working, but one never knows.
that's what they are! at first, i removed them, then when i got errors
i put them
back.
>
>
> hth :)
so do i. thanks.
-a
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 23, 1999 at 06:39:38AM -0400, Aaron Stromas wrote:
> > seth,
> >
> > i've read and followed the faq before i asked for advice. the xfontsel
-pattern
> > found no matches. xcoral is not on my system - what is it?
> >
> > -a
> >
> > Seth R Arnold wrote:
> >
> > > Aaron, there is a bit more involved than just adding it to the
config files.
> > > here is the relevant section snipped from /usr/doc/xfstt/FAQ.gz:
> > >
> > > 1.1 How do I test it?
> > > mkdir /usr/share/fonts/truetype
and put some *ttf fonts there, now run
> > >
> > > make xfstt 
make install
> > > xfstt --sync
> > > xfstt 
> > > xset fp+ unix/:7101
> > > xlsfonts
> > > xcoral -fn "TTM20_Times
New Roman"
> > > xfontsel -pattern
"-*-*-*-*-*-tt-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*"
> > > xset -fp unix/:7101
> > >
> > > If your X server
cannot handle the unix protocol replace the
> > > unix/:7101 part
by inet/127.0.0.1:7101 (assuming the machine
> > > running xfstt
has 127.0.0.1 as internet address).
> > >
> > > 1.2 How do I use it?
> > > Add unix/:7101
to the fontpath in your X11 configuration file.
> > > Start xfstt a
few seconds before starting X11.
> > >
> > > Once you do these things, it will probably work nicer. :)
> > >
> > > On Wed, Sep 22, 1999 at 08:54:19AM -0400, Aaron Stromas wrote:
> > > > hi,
> > > >
> > > > in an attempt to use the true type fonts i installed the xfstt,
copied
> > > > the fonts from a windows machine and added "FontPath "unix/:7101"
to my
> > > > XF86Config. unfortunately, my X server will not start. it quits
with
> > > > "could not open default font 'fixed'".
> > > >
> > > > i have also tried this: 1) commented out the unix:7101 font
path, 2)
> > > > started x, 3) started xfstt (xfstt ), 4) added font path
(xset fp+
> > > > unix/:7101), and 5) ran xfontsel -pattern "-*-*-*-*-tt-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*"
> > > > which produced "no match". it appears, i'm not getting the
true type
> > > > fonts.
> > > >
> > > > any explanations of what is wrong and how to correct the problem
would
> > > > be much appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > also, the windows font directory contain a bunch of *.fon which
'file'
> > > > says is ms-dos executable. what is it? it has 8514fix.fon,
so maybe it
> > > > has something to do with the fixed font. quite a few font names
are
> > > > capitalised, does it matter?
> > > >
> > > > please, cc me, as for a variety of reasons, i'm not currently
on the
> > > > list. tia,
> > > >
> > > > -a
> > > >
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true type fonts and xfstt (again)

1999-09-22 Thread Aaron Stromas


hi,
in an attempt to use the true type fonts i installed the xfstt,
copied the fonts from a windows machine and added "FontPath "unix/:7101"
to my XF86Config. unfortunately, my X server will not start. it quits with
"could not open default font 'fixed'".
i have also tried this: 1) commented out the unix:7101 font path,
2) started x, 3) started xfstt (xfstt ), 4) added font path (xset
fp+ unix/:7101), and 5) ran xfontsel -pattern "-*-*-*-*-tt-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*"
which produced "no match". it appears, i'm not getting the true type fonts.
any explanations of what is wrong and how to correct the problem
would be much appreciated.
also, the windows font directory contain a bunch of *.fon which
'file' says is ms-dos executable. what is it? it has 8514fix.fon, so maybe
it has something to do with the fixed font. quite a few font names are
capitalised, does it matter?
please, cc me, as for a variety of reasons, i'm not currently on
the list. tia,
-a
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Re: true type fonts and xfstt (again)

1999-09-22 Thread M. K. Honeycutt
Aaron Stromas wrote:
 
 hi,
 
 in an attempt to use the true type fonts i installed the xfstt, copied
 the fonts from a windows machine and added FontPath unix/:7101 to
 my XF86Config. unfortunately, my X server will not start. it quits
 with could not open default font 'fixed'.
 
 i have also tried this: 1) commented out the unix:7101 font path, 2)
 started x, 3) started xfstt (xfstt ), 4) added font path (xset fp+
 unix/:7101), and 5) ran xfontsel -pattern
 -*-*-*-*-tt-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* which produced no match. it appears,
 i'm not getting the true type fonts.
 
 any explanations of what is wrong and how to correct the problem would
 be much appreciated.
 
 also, the windows font directory contain a bunch of *.fon which 'file'
 says is ms-dos executable. what is it? it has 8514fix.fon, so maybe it
 has something to do with the fixed font. quite a few font names are
 capitalised, does it matter?
 
 please, cc me, as for a variety of reasons, i'm not currently on the
 list. tia,
 
 -a
 
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  Adding FontPath  unix/:7101 as the last line in XF86Config and
running xfstt --sync worked for me.

  I only copied the *.ttf fonts.  I don't think xfstt can use the 
*.fon ones.

  I, also, rebooted my machine to get rid of the error msg, however, I'm
not sure that's necessary.

regards,

Mary


true type fonts and xfstt (yet again)

1999-09-22 Thread Aaron Stromas


when i posted the note below earlier i forgot to mention that i did
indeed ran xfstt --sync (it tells me it found 118 fonts), and the xfstt
is indeed started by /etc/init.d/xfstt. a number of people suggested that
was the cause of the x server not starting. unfortunately, it's not.
-a

hi,

in an attempt to use the true type fonts i installed the xfstt, copied the
fonts from a windows machine and added "FontPath "unix/:7101" to my
XF86Config. unfortunately, my X server will not start. it quits with "could
not open default font 'fixed'".

i have also tried this: 1) commented out the unix:7101 font path, 2) started
x, 3) started xfstt (xfstt ), 4) added font path (xset fp+ unix/:7101), and
5) ran xfontsel -pattern "-*-*-*-*-tt-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*" which produced "no
match". it appears, i'm not getting the true type fonts.

any explanations of what is wrong and how to correct the problem would be
much appreciated.

also, the windows font directory contain a bunch of *.fon which 'file' says
is ms-dos executable. what is it? it has 8514fix.fon, so maybe it has
something to do with the fixed font. quite a few font names are capitalised,
does it matter?

please, cc me, as for a variety of reasons, i'm not currently on the list.
tia,

-a


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Re: true type fonts and xfstt (yet again)

1999-09-22 Thread Mark Wagnon
On Wed 09/22/99 02:45PM, Aaron Stromas wrote:

Do you have the xfonts-base package installed? When you comment out
the FontPath stuff for the TT fonts, does X start or not?
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Re: true type fonts and xfstt (again)

1999-09-22 Thread Seth R Arnold
Aaron, there is a bit more involved than just adding it to the config files.
here is the relevant section snipped from /usr/doc/xfstt/FAQ.gz:

1.1 How do I test it?
mkdir /usr/share/fonts/truetype and put some *ttf fonts there, now run

make xfstt  make install
xfstt --sync
xfstt 
xset fp+ unix/:7101
xlsfonts
xcoral -fn TTM20_Times New Roman
xfontsel -pattern -*-*-*-*-*-tt-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
xset -fp unix/:7101

If your X server cannot handle the unix protocol replace the
unix/:7101 part by inet/127.0.0.1:7101 (assuming the machine
running xfstt has 127.0.0.1 as internet address).

1.2 How do I use it?
Add unix/:7101 to the fontpath in your X11 configuration file.
Start xfstt a few seconds before starting X11.

Once you do these things, it will probably work nicer. :)

On Wed, Sep 22, 1999 at 08:54:19AM -0400, Aaron Stromas wrote:
 hi,
 
 in an attempt to use the true type fonts i installed the xfstt, copied
 the fonts from a windows machine and added FontPath unix/:7101 to my
 XF86Config. unfortunately, my X server will not start. it quits with
 could not open default font 'fixed'.
 
 i have also tried this: 1) commented out the unix:7101 font path, 2)
 started x, 3) started xfstt (xfstt ), 4) added font path (xset fp+
 unix/:7101), and 5) ran xfontsel -pattern -*-*-*-*-tt-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
 which produced no match. it appears, i'm not getting the true type
 fonts.
 
 any explanations of what is wrong and how to correct the problem would
 be much appreciated.
 
 also, the windows font directory contain a bunch of *.fon which 'file'
 says is ms-dos executable. what is it? it has 8514fix.fon, so maybe it
 has something to do with the fixed font. quite a few font names are
 capitalised, does it matter?
 
 please, cc me, as for a variety of reasons, i'm not currently on the
 list. tia,
 
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Re: TrueType fonts, xfstt and freefont

1999-09-02 Thread Aaron M. Stromas


thanks to all responders. xlsfonts shows that freefonts are installed.
i didn't have to use 'type1inst' which is not currently on my machine but,
i'm guessing, debian package added
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/freefont/"
to my /etc/X11/XF86Config.
it appears, i must find a windoz box to copy the fonts from. i've seen
some around ;-)
-a
On Wed, 1 Sep 1999, Aaron M. Stromas wrote:
>
> hi,
>
> i've got tired of the tiny fonts in netscape and installed the xfstt
and
> the freefont package. when i ran the 'xfstt --sync' it complained
about
> not finding any *.ttf files. i looked at what is in the freefont
package
> and discovered that the fonts are in .pbf format.
>
I'm not completly sure, but pbf aren't ttf fonts. I think they are Type
1
fonts. Instead of xfstt use xfs and type1inst. Of course you can have
both
installed at a time.
> so, xfstt is not meant to use freefont?
>
> according to freefont's documentation all that's needed is to restart
> the x server but that does not solve the netscape problem. i've searched
> for the basic .ttf fonts without success, although i've seen some
> suggestions to use fonts off the m$ site. after a while i tried it
but
> all i see are .exe files. can somebody explain the business
with
> freefont and also point me to the source of .ttf? please, cc me
as i'm
> temporary unsubscribed. tia,
>
> -a
>
>
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Re: TrueType fonts, xfstt and freefont

1999-09-02 Thread John Foster
Aaron M. Stromas wrote:
 
 thanks to all responders. xlsfonts shows that freefonts are installed.
 i didn't have to use 'type1inst' which is not currently on my machine
 but, i'm guessing, debian package added
 
  FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/freefont/
 
 to my /etc/X11/XF86Config.

I did not see this anywhere in this thread.
Be sure to add this line to your /etc/X11/XF86Config  file also.

Fontpath   unix/:7101

This will add the truetype fonts to the available  list of fonts for X
windows. You might also search the mail list archives at debian.org
regarding the use of ttf files. There is a great deal of info there on
this subject.
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Re: TrueType fonts, xfstt and freefont

1999-09-02 Thread Aaron M. Stromas


right, there is a "font deuglification mini-howto" i came across that mentions
that. unfortunately, i can't remember where i found it. thanks,
-a
John Foster wrote:
"Aaron M. Stromas" wrote:
>
> thanks to all responders. xlsfonts shows that freefonts are installed.
> i didn't have to use 'type1inst' which is not currently on my machine
> but, i'm guessing, debian package added
>
> FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/freefont/"
>
> to my /etc/X11/XF86Config.

I did not see this anywhere in this thread.
Be sure to add this line to your /etc/X11/XF86Config file also.
Fontpath "unix/:7101"
This will add the truetype fonts to the available list of fonts
for X
windows. You might also search the mail list archives at debian.org
regarding the use of ttf files. There is a great deal of info there
on
this subject.
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Re: TrueType fonts, xfstt and freefont

1999-09-02 Thread Eric Gillespie, Jr.
On Thu, Sep 02, 1999 at 11:37:25AM -0400,
Aaron M. Stromas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 right, there is a font deuglification mini-howto i came across that
 mentions that. unfortunately, i can't remember where i found it. thanks,
 

http://members.aa.net/~swear/pedia/fonts.html

This page has a lot of information about fonts, including a link to the
Font Deuglification Mini-Howto.

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TrueType fonts, xfstt and freefont

1999-09-01 Thread Aaron M. Stromas



hi,
i've got tired of the tiny fonts in netscape and installed the xfstt
and the freefont package. when i ran the 'xfstt --sync' it complained about
not finding any *.ttf files. i looked at what is in the freefont package
and discovered that the fonts are in .pbf format.
so, xfstt is not meant to use freefont?
according to freefont's documentation all that's needed is to restart
the x server but that does not solve the netscape problem. i've searched
for the basic .ttf fonts without success, although i've seen some suggestions
to use fonts off the m$ site. after a while i tried it but all i see are
.exe files. can somebody explain the business with freefont and also
point me to the source of .ttf? please, cc me as i'm temporary unsubscribed.
tia,
-a

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Re: TrueType fonts, xfstt and freefont

1999-09-01 Thread Armin Wegner
 [...] i've seen some
 suggestions to use fonts off the m$ site. after a while i tried it but
 all i see are .exe files.  can somebody explain the business with
 freefont and also point me to the source of .ttf? please, cc me  as i'm
 temporary unsubscribed. tia,
 
Windows stores the truetype fonts in \Windows\fonts. Copy them to
/usr/share/fonts/truetype in Linux and type xfstt --sync.
There should be a man page and you should read it. Have a look
at /usr/doc/xfstt, too. A list of servers to download truetype fonts
from is given there.


Re: TrueType fonts, xfstt and freefont

1999-09-01 Thread Juli-Manel Merino Vidal
On Wed, 1 Sep 1999, Aaron M. Stromas wrote:

 
 hi,
 
 i've got tired of the tiny fonts in netscape and installed the xfstt and
 the freefont package. when i ran the 'xfstt --sync' it complained about
 not finding any *.ttf files. i looked at what is in the freefont package
 and discovered that the fonts are  in .pbf format.


I'm not completly sure, but pbf aren't ttf fonts. I think they are Type 1
fonts. Instead of xfstt use xfs and type1inst. Of course you can have both
installed at a time.
 
 so,  xfstt is not meant to use freefont?
 
 according to freefont's documentation all that's needed is to restart
 the x server but that does not solve the netscape problem. i've searched
 for the basic .ttf fonts without success, although i've seen some
 suggestions to use fonts off the m$ site. after a while i tried it but
 all i see are .exe files.  can somebody explain the business with
 freefont and also point me to the source of .ttf? please, cc me  as i'm
 temporary unsubscribed. tia,
 
 -a
 
 
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Re: TrueType fonts, xfstt and freefont

1999-09-01 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
The fonts included with the freefont package are not TrueType fonts,
they're Postscript Type 1 fonts. These fonts can be used directly by the
X server without the intercession of xfstt (which is only for TrueType
fonts).

Aaron M. Stromas wrote:


 hi,

 i've got tired of the tiny fonts in netscape and installed the xfstt
 and the freefont package. when i ran the 'xfstt --sync' it complained
 about not finding any *.ttf files. i looked at what is in the freefont
 package and discovered that the fonts are  in .pbf format.

 so,  xfstt is not meant to use freefont?

 according to freefont's documentation all that's needed is to restart
 the x server but that does not solve the netscape problem. i've
 searched for the basic .ttf fonts without success, although i've seen
 some suggestions to use fonts off the m$ site. after a while i tried
 it but all i see are .exe files.  can somebody explain the business
 with freefont and also point me to the source of .ttf? please, cc me
 as i'm temporary unsubscribed. tia,

 -a


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xfs/xfstt

1999-08-08 Thread Bek Oberin

I'm a bit confused about xfs and xfstt.  I understand that
xfstt is for truetype fonts, and I have it working.

But as far as I can tell, xfs doesn't offer any advantage
(for a regular user) over just putting directories in
the FontPath bits of the X configs.  Is this true?


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