Re: Info on this site
Hi, On Sunday 11 November 2007 12:01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This concerns only end-users of unstable, and to a lesser extent of testing. Sure, but surely there is a middle way between sending out a message with critical priority and not communication the issue to our users at all?I've had quite a few question on irc already from users who were wondering what is wrong. Would it really hurt to send a messaeg to debian-news or so and putting a notige on the website? I think users of unstable should subscribe to debian-devel-announce (at least). And if they dont, I have hartly sympathy. The news was on d-d-a. You cannot distribute developer related information, which ftp-master is down is, further within debian's current news systems. That the debian webpage can be made better is a completly different topic. And a news frame with content from d-d-a _might_ be a nice idea. regards, Holger P.S./BTW: the host was down, not compromised. pgpT6LTVX1Wim.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Info on this site
- Original Message - From: Bas Zoetekouw [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, November 10, 2007 1:18 pm Subject: Re: Info on this site Hi Josip! You wrote: I'm not sure what you mean with the main server is down, but as far as I'm aware there's nothing down that's relevant to end-users - only developers. The mirror network seems to function just fine. Hmm, maybe I am wrong, but as endusers might wonder, why there are suddenly no new versions, they ask themselves, what happens. This concerns only end-users of unstable, and to a lesser extent of testing. That's a far cry from everyone, thankfully :) stable users are unaffected, security for stable is unaffected, so the news doesn't warrant critical priority. Sure, but surely there is a middle way between sending out a message with critical priority and not communication the issue to our users at all?I've had quite a few question on irc already from users who were wondering what is wrong. Would it really hurt to send a messaeg to debian-news or so and putting a notige on the website? I agree with Bas. Most Polish users who I know from forums etc. use Sid or Lenny. They may be wondered and affected, don't they? Some information is needed on the Debian web pages, I think. Not all people subscribe announce lists. Regards Wojciech Zareba -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Info on this site
On Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 01:39:20PM +0100, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: Also, when the main server is down, everyone should be informed about the non-reachable server (like at the moment). I'm not sure what you mean with the main server is down, but as far as I'm aware there's nothing down that's relevant to end-users - only developers. The mirror network seems to function just fine. Hmm, maybe I am wrong, but as endusers might wonder, why there are suddenly no new versions, they ask themselves, what happens. This concerns only end-users of unstable, and to a lesser extent of testing. That's a far cry from everyone, thankfully :) stable users are unaffected, security for stable is unaffected, so the news doesn't warrant critical priority. -- 2. That which causes joy or happiness. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Info on this site
Hi Josip! You wrote: I'm not sure what you mean with the main server is down, but as far as I'm aware there's nothing down that's relevant to end-users - only developers. The mirror network seems to function just fine. Hmm, maybe I am wrong, but as endusers might wonder, why there are suddenly no new versions, they ask themselves, what happens. This concerns only end-users of unstable, and to a lesser extent of testing. That's a far cry from everyone, thankfully :) stable users are unaffected, security for stable is unaffected, so the news doesn't warrant critical priority. Sure, but surely there is a middle way between sending out a message with critical priority and not communication the issue to our users at all? I've had quite a few question on irc already from users who were wondering what is wrong. Would it really hurt to send a messaeg to debian-news or so and putting a notige on the website? Best regards, Bas. -- Kind regards, ++ | Bas Zoetekouw | GPG key: 0644fab7 | || Fingerprint: c1f5 f24c d514 3fec 8bf6 | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | a2b1 2bae e41f 0644 fab7 | ++ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Info on this site
Am Freitag 09 November 2007 schrieb Thijs Kinkhorst: On Fri, November 9, 2007 12:43, MJ Ray wrote: Hans-J. Ullrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I think, if a debian server would have been compromised, this should be appear at once on the webside. Also, when the main server is down, everyone should be informed about the non-reachable server (like at the moment). IMO , these informations belong to open source policy as well, don't you think so ? As I understand it, the choice of which news appears on the front page is made by the press team and the security team. I'm forwarding your question to them too. Hello team-members ! Your (Hans's) mail seems to have the assumption that such news isn't put on the home page, while in fact it is. See for example this overview of older news items where you can see that a compromise is announced: http://www.debian.org/News/2006/ Yes, I saw this at that time on the side, but the announcement was real late (IMO), just 2 days after the compromise, I remember. I'm not sure what you mean with the main server is down, but as far as I'm aware there's nothing down that's relevant to end-users - only developers. The mirror network seems to function just fine. Hmm, maybe I am wrong, but as endusers might wonder, why there are suddenly no new versions, they ask themselves, what happens. I'm not sure whether the debian-infrastructure-announce launch means we should add another section to the front page containing its news - what do others on debian-www think? News targeted purely at developers, e.g. d-d-a and d-i-a could maybe be listed on www.debian.org/devel, but I see no added value of listing it on the home page. Yes, this is my fault, I will put me on the list, so that I will get more informations. Please apologize, but I just thought, the website should be the main information point for everyone and not a list. My fault, I did not understand the kind of policy, informations are shared. So, I will subscribe some more lists. Sorry for the noise ! Cheers Hans-J. Ullrich Thijs -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Info on this site
Dear webmasters and maintainers, please apologize my disturbance, but I would like to ask you, why important debian related messages are never shown on the homepages. What I mean with important messages ? Well, I think, if a debian server would have been compromised, this should be appear at once on the webside. Also, when the main server is down, everyone should be informed about the non-reachable server (like at the moment). IMO , these informations belong to open source policy as well, don't you think so ? My intension is, just a wish to you, you might populate such important things not only in blogs, but on the homepage as well. If I am wrong, just let me know or forget this mail. Thank you for your attention ! Best regards Hans-J. Ullrich -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
