getting and keeping existing webpages up-to-date (Re: Wanted: introductory page for all teams)
(Moving from debian-devel to debian-www.) On Sun, 2007-05-27 at 02:13 +0200, Frans Pop wrote: contributing to specific pages or parts is trivial. My major issue with people complaining about the website is that keeping the _existing content_ of the website up to date is relatively little work. It just requires people caring about general pages and areas they are involved with and proposing updates on the debian-www list. In most cases someone with commit access will commit concrete proposals quite quickly. The problem is with reports that go this is broken/should be improved, but I can't be bothered to propose a replacement. Hi Frans, This page [0] points to this page about talks [1]. It seems that there have been no talks since 2005. Last update was 17 months ago [2]. The obvious short term solution is to remove the link to the talks page on this page [0]. The obvious short term solution is to remove the link to the horribly outdated talks page, so that's in this wml [3]. [0]: http://www.debian.org/intro/help [1]: http://www.debian.org/events/talks [2]: http://cvs.debian.org/webwml/english/events/?root=webwml [3]: http://cvs.debian.org/webwml/english/intro/help.wml?rev=1.9root=webwmlview=auto Can any DD do this trivial change? Or does this require a proposal on debian-www ? My point is that it is no surprise to me that many webpages have alternative wiki pages, simply because it is s much more efficient to edit the wiki pages. I strongly suggest to give all DD's commit access to the wml files and to launch a call on debian-www to massively merge the wiki pages with the outdated webpages. I'm willing to spend some of my time participating in such merging effort. After that I might also volunteer to keep some pages up-to-date, actively watching related sources of information (like the Debian wiki). How I get commit access? Or do I already have that? Regards, Bart Martens signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: getting and keeping existing webpages up-to-date (Re: Wanted: introductory page for all teams)
On Sun, May 27, 2007 at 01:39:30PM +0200, Bart Martens wrote: My point is that it is no surprise to me that many webpages have alternative wiki pages, simply because it is s much more efficient to edit the wiki pages. It's not necessarily efficient, it's just simple. But yes, some things are better edited in another format. I was never an advocate of the events/ section in webwml, it was always out-of-dateness waiting to happen. I strongly suggest to give all DD's commit access to the wml files and to launch a call on debian-www to massively merge the wiki pages with the outdated webpages. While letting all developers edit WML will have the obvious advantage of letting them do simple fixes, it will also make it possible for people to violate various conventions simply because they haven't needed to read a modicum of documentation. Contrary to popular belief, there are a lot of things that can go wrong and piss people off when people make newbie mistakes editing web pages (be they in a wiki engine or in wml). With people mailing debian-www saying 'please add me', at least we have the opportunity to tell that person 'please read docs', as well as a clear record of when they started contributing. It isn't really an unbearable overhead, is it? Please let's not overdo the solution to this problem :) -- 2. That which causes joy or happiness. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
