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E-card proves to be anything but a friendly greeting http://www.techrepublic.com/article_guest.jhtml?id=r00320021121jdt01.htmpage=1 TechRepublic provides content, context and community to IT strategists, network administrators and other enterprise computing professionals so they can be more successful. Enjoy this article and if you find it useful, join TechRepublic to take full advantage of all our services. www.techrepublic.com/promotion.jhtml?pc=TR1002 --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
[Declude.JunkMail] Blacklisting based on % of bad addresses
Does anyone know if any of the Imail log analyzers reports number of good and bad deliveries by remote servers? I want to look at blacklisting remote addresses that send high percentage of messages to invalid addresses. These are most likely from mailing lists and therefore likely spam. I keep getting bogged down by postmaster errors to invalid return addresses, and it only keeps getting worse. I want to start tracking and blacklisting servers or originating IP's, anything, that causes these problems routinely. Thanks, Chuck Frolick ArgoNet, Inc. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Blacklisting based on % of bad addresses
Several people have mentioned about getting bogged down with postmaster errors to return addresses. I assume you mean that you bounce messages from Declude. Is there any reason why people shy away from using bogus address on your system so the undeliverable messages are discarded? Darrell -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Charles Frolick Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 12:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Blacklisting based on % of bad addresses Does anyone know if any of the Imail log analyzers reports number of good and bad deliveries by remote servers? I want to look at blacklisting remote addresses that send high percentage of messages to invalid addresses. These are most likely from mailing lists and therefore likely spam. I keep getting bogged down by postmaster errors to invalid return addresses, and it only keeps getting worse. I want to start tracking and blacklisting servers or originating IP's, anything, that causes these problems routinely. Thanks, Chuck Frolick ArgoNet, Inc. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filtering E-Greetings
We are filtering, if found hold and send a copy to a special account we have were we review the message. If it is legit, the original files go back into the spool for delivery. John Tolmachoff MCSE, CSSA IT Manager, Network Engineer RelianceSoft, Inc. Fullerton, CA 92835 www.reliancesoft.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of David Delbridge Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 10:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Filtering E-Greetings Hi all, What's the best approach for filtering the e-greetings scumware? I run both Declude Virus and JunkMail, and from what I've read in the forum archives, JunkMail is the tool to use. The options discussed so far don't appear to be conclusive. Filtering by phrase in the body will catch legit mail. Filtering by e-greeting domains will require frequent updates, and there is no authoritative source for such a list. What to do? Any advice is greatly appreciated. Dave --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Blacklisting based on % of bad addresses
Actually I am referring to postmaster messages from Imail. I do not use the bounce action in declude because it was such a problem. I would use declude to help control the messages since it appears declude gets them before any attempt at local delivery, existing or not. Probably use the hold action. And by mailing lists I mean they are from spam CD's, most list servers will pull an address after x number of failed attempts, they won't keep banging their heads against the wall. I have single IP's that make 20+ attempts at the same address in one day. Thanks, Chuck Frolick ArgoNet, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Darrell L. Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 12:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Blacklisting based on % of bad addresses Several people have mentioned about getting bogged down with postmaster errors to return addresses. I assume you mean that you bounce messages from Declude. Is there any reason why people shy away from using bogus address on your system so the undeliverable messages are discarded? Darrell -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Charles Frolick Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 12:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Blacklisting based on % of bad addresses Does anyone know if any of the Imail log analyzers reports number of good and bad deliveries by remote servers? I want to look at blacklisting remote addresses that send high percentage of messages to invalid addresses. These are most likely from mailing lists and therefore likely spam. I keep getting bogged down by postmaster errors to invalid return addresses, and it only keeps getting worse. I want to start tracking and blacklisting servers or originating IP's, anything, that causes these problems routinely. Thanks, Chuck Frolick ArgoNet, Inc. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filtering E-Greetings
Get JunkMail, then add Sniffer and let them do the filtering for you. My time spent filtering has dropped off dramatically since installing it. Cris Porter JVC America -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of David Delbridge Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 12:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Filtering E-Greetings Hi all, What's the best approach for filtering the e-greetings scumware? I run both Declude Virus and JunkMail, and from what I've read in the forum archives, JunkMail is the tool to use. The options discussed so far don't appear to be conclusive. Filtering by phrase in the body will catch legit mail. Filtering by e-greeting domains will require frequent updates, and there is no authoritative source for such a list. What to do? Any advice is greatly appreciated. Dave --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Filtering E-Greetings
You need junkmail pro to filter E-Greetings. If you have a firewall with http proxy, then block www.friendgreetings.com www.friendgreetings.net www.cool-downloads.net www.cool-downloads.com www.friend-greetings.com www.friend-greetings.net www.friend-cards.net www.friend-greeting.com www.friend-greeting.net www.friend-card.com www.friend-card.net www.friend-cards.com Also, desktop av (most) detects E-Greetings as a virus. -- Dan Cris Porter wrote: Get JunkMail, then add Sniffer and let them do the filtering for you. My time spent filtering has dropped off dramatically since installing it. Cris Porter JVC America -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of David Delbridge Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 12:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Filtering E-Greetings Hi all, What's the best approach for filtering the e-greetings scumware? I run both Declude Virus and JunkMail, and from what I've read in the forum archives, JunkMail is the tool to use. The options discussed so far don't appear to be conclusive. Filtering by phrase in the body will catch legit mail. Filtering by e-greeting domains will require frequent updates, and there is no authoritative source for such a list. What to do? Any advice is greatly appreciated. Dave --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Email without any declude headers?
Is there any way to eliminate the aDditional declude header info on one email, but not all? I have a few users that send email to a pager or phone (text messaging) that limits the # of characters, and the entire message is filled up with headers. No, the global headers (such as the X-Declude-Sender: and X-Spoolname: headers) can not be turned off for individual users or domains. However, that sounds like a flaw with the page/messaging system -- if it has limits, it should either only send the headers it thinks should be sent, or not send the headers at all. Otherwise, recipients will be very restricted in what they receive (lots of mailservers add 5-10 headers just for an abuse@ contact, for example). -Scott --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filtering E-Greetings
Junkmail with Message Sniffer will also handle it. All of these and more are included in the Message Sniffer Scumware Greetings rule group (Symbol 62). We are still looking for a reliable source for additional domains as they arise. This was an experimental group but we have had no false positive reports on these rules so it looks like it will stay in place. _M | -Original Message- | From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dan Star | Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 5:10 PM | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Filtering E-Greetings | | | You need junkmail pro to filter E-Greetings. If you have a | firewall with http proxy, then block | | www.friendgreetings.com | www.friendgreetings.net | www.cool-downloads.net | www.cool-downloads.com | www.friend-greetings.com | www.friend-greetings.net | www.friend-cards.net | www.friend-greeting.com | www.friend-greeting.net | www.friend-card.com | www.friend-card.net | www.friend-cards.com | | Also, desktop av (most) detects E-Greetings as a virus. | | -- Dan | | | Cris Porter wrote: | | Get JunkMail, then add Sniffer and let them | do the filtering for you. My time spent filtering | has dropped off dramatically since installing it. | | Cris Porter | JVC America | | -Original Message- | From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of David | Delbridge | Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 12:01 PM | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Filtering E-Greetings | | Hi all, | | What's the best approach for filtering the e-greetings scumware? I | run both Declude Virus and JunkMail, and from what I've read in the | forum archives, JunkMail is the tool to use. | | The options discussed so far don't appear to be conclusive. | Filtering | by phrase in the body will catch legit mail. Filtering by | e-greeting | domains will require frequent updates, and there is no | authoritative | source for such a list. | | What to do? | | Any advice is greatly appreciated. | | Dave | --- | [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus | (http://www.declude.com)] | | --- | This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To | unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type | unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at | http://www.mail-archive.com. | | --- | [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus | (http://www.declude.com)] | | --- | This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To | unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type | unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at | http://www.mail-archive.com. | | --- | [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Email without any declude headers?
That does make sense. The system that had the trouble was a Skytel account going to a pager enabled messenger watch. You would think that they would be stripping those headers out. I'll do some more testing, maybe it was just a fluke. Thanks Dan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 3:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Email without any declude headers? Is there any way to eliminate the aDditional declude header info on one email, but not all? I have a few users that send email to a pager or phone (text messaging) that limits the # of characters, and the entire message is filled up with headers. No, the global headers (such as the X-Declude-Sender: and X-Spoolname: headers) can not be turned off for individual users or domains. However, that sounds like a flaw with the page/messaging system -- if it has limits, it should either only send the headers it thinks should be sent, or not send the headers at all. Otherwise, recipients will be very restricted in what they receive (lots of mailservers add 5-10 headers just for an abuse@ contact, for example). -Scott --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] E - G r e e t i n g s Posts
Actually his weight hit over 200 for us. Smart move!? Weight of 100+ is automatically forwarded to Spamcop. So I wonder if that was cancelled or reported. We had negative 100 weight assigned to Declude but he forced us to move Declude to Whitelist so this won't happen again! Kami -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 6:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] E - G r e e t i n g s Posts I wonder how many other filters Dan's and Madscientist's posts were caught by. John Tolmachoff MCSE, CSSA IT Manager, Network Engineer RelianceSoft, Inc. Fullerton, CA 92835 www.reliancesoft.com --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] E - G r e e t i n g s Posts
Kami, seeing return receipt requests can also cause problems. John Tolmachoff MCSE, CSSA IT Manager, Network Engineer RelianceSoft, Inc. Fullerton, CA 92835 www.reliancesoft.com --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] E - G r e e t i n g s Posts
Weight of 100+ is automatically forwarded to Spamcop. Is that a smart move? I think not. John Tolmachoff MCSE, CSSA IT Manager, Network Engineer RelianceSoft, Inc. Fullerton, CA 92835 www.reliancesoft.com --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] E - G r e e t i n g s Posts
This had never happened. Seeing this was a surprise. Our IP got listed by Spamcop for just under an hour. You would be surprised how many 'bounce' messages we received in that time (a case where using the BOUNCE action does have a benefit). However, it points out a serious flaw with Spamcop, if they are now listing IPs that have a single spam report. -Scott --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] E - G r e e t i n g s Posts
Speaking of SpamCop, you should see their listing history of one of Dunn Bradstreet's mail servers. Today alone, it was listed and delisted 3 times. John Tolmachoff MCSE, CSSA IT Manager, Network Engineer RelianceSoft, Inc. Fullerton, CA 92835 www.reliancesoft.com --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Email without any declude headers?
I send a copy of emails to my two-way pager from Metrocall and also my Nextel phone with two-way messaging. In both cases the header information from the emails are NOT included Must be the paging company you are using, call them and ask them why they to not removing the email headers. maybe its so they can charge you for the extra data. I will pont out that some emails are a problem. Ones with pictures attached, I receive the text but the sender gets a bounce back saying it could not be delivered even though I did receive the text less the picture. Also, sometimes I see the HTML code on my pager from HMTL emails, makes them hard to read. Plain text email work 100% Sincerely, William J. Baumbach II [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9975 Pennsylvania Ave. Manassas, Va. 20110-2028 Ph: 703-273-4400 ext:1708 Fax: 703-691-0946 - - Original Message - From: R. Scott Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 5:10 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Email without any declude headers? Is there any way to eliminate the aDditional declude header info on one email, but not all? I have a few users that send email to a pager or phone (text messaging) that limits the # of characters, and the entire message is filled up with headers. No, the global headers (such as the X-Declude-Sender: and X-Spoolname: headers) can not be turned off for individual users or domains. However, that sounds like a flaw with the page/messaging system -- if it has limits, it should either only send the headers it thinks should be sent, or not send the headers at all. Otherwise, recipients will be very restricted in what they receive (lots of mailservers add 5-10 headers just for an abuse@ contact, for example). -Scott --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
