[Declude.JunkMail] country filter

2003-02-07 Thread Lachezar Karadjov
Hi,

Plese help with setting the country filtering.

Is it just adding:
COUNTRIES   contains5   kr
COUNTRIES   contains5   br
to GLOBAL.CFG - one line per country extension?
Do I need to add COUNTRIES  WARN
to the $default$.junkmail file?

What else? please advise

Best regards
Lachezar

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Grant Griffith
Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 6:18 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] whitelist todomain


I have them entered differently and it works.

WHITELIST TO @pyramidhealthcare.com

Not sure if the other way works, but this does...

Sincerely,
Grant Griffith, Vice President
EI8HT LEGS Web Management Co., Inc.
http://www.getafreewebsite.com
877-483-3393

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Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] whitelist todomain


I have set this up as a way to prevent lost emails.  I have a problem with
three different companies saying they are losing their emails.  Will this
allow their emails to go through...regardless of what it is?

WHITELIST TODOMAIN pyramidhealthcare.com
WHITELIST TODOMAIN standardhardware.com

Jim Rooth
Klotron, Inc.
214.244.0979
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Error in Declude log file

2003-02-07 Thread R. Scott Perry


This is what I m getting in my Declude log:

02/07/2003 02:00:05  Warning: misconfiguration in following line in 
global.cfg file (ip4r is not an ACTION)
02/07/2003 
02:00:05  DSBLip4r   list.dsbl.org 
  *   6  0

The problem is that the Declude JunkMail file can have tests with any name, 
so when Declude JunkMail sees a line starting with a name it doesn't 
recognize, it assumes that you are defining the test (like the line shown 
above).  However, when it sees the test name again, it recognizes it as a 
valid test name, and assumes you are defining the outgoing action.

In this case, the problem is that you have the line in there twice, 
something like:

DSBLip4r   list.dsbl.org 
*   6  0
DSBLip4r   list.dsbl.org 
*   6  0
DSBLWARN

In this case, if you remove the duplicate entry, the warning will go away.
   -Scott

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] country filter

2003-02-07 Thread R. Scott Perry


Plese help with setting the country filtering.

Is it just adding:
COUNTRIES   contains5   kr
COUNTRIES   contains5   br
to GLOBAL.CFG - one line per country extension?


COUNTRY and COUNTRIES in Declude JunkMail are used as filters, so you 
would need to set up your own filter before you could use them.  You would 
then place the COUNTRIES contains... lines in the filter file.

Do I need to add COUNTRIES  WARN
to the $default$.junkmail file?


Assuming that you name your test COUNTRIES (which probably isn't a good 
idea, as it will likely cause some confusion), you would need such a line 
in the $default$.JunkMail file (assuming that you wanted to use the WARN 
action on E-mail from those countries).

What else? please advise


All of the IP-country features also require the all_list.dat file (from 
http://www.declude.com/release/165/all_list.dat ), which needs to be 
located in the \IMail\Declude directory.
-Scott

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] country filter

2003-02-07 Thread Kami Razvan
Hi;
I think it was Tom who submitted a complete listing of all countries in a
file.  That can save you time by simply assigning weight to each country as
you see fit.

I just listed it here from his file- just in case you want to have them all.
This is our weights but you should adjust it per your liking.  Our HOLD
weight is based on 20 so these weights are with respect to that scale.

Regards,
Kami
=

COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSAD
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSAE
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSAF
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSAG
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSAI
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSAL
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSAM
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSAN
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSAO
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSAQ
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSAR
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSAS
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSAT
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSAU
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSAW
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSAZ
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSBA
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSBB
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSBD
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSBE
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSBF
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSBG
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSBH
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSBI
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSBJ
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSBM
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSBN
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSBO
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSBR
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSBS
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSBT
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSBV
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSBW
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSBY
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSBZ
COUNTRIES   0   CONTAINSCA
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSCC
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSCF
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSCG
COUNTRIES   10  CONTAINSCH
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSCI
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSCK
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSCL
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSCM
COUNTRIES   10  CONTAINSCN
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSCO
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSCR
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSCS
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSCU
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSCV
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSCX
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSCY
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSCZ
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSDE
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSDJ
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSDK
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSDM
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSDO
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSDZ
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSEC
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSEE
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSEG
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSEH
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSER
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSES
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSET
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSFI
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSFJ
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSFK
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSFM
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSFO
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSFR
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSFX
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSGA
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSGB
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSGD
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSGE
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSGF
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSGH
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSGI
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSGL
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSGM
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSGN
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSGP
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSGQ
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSGR
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSGS
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSGT
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSGU
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSGW
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSGY
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSHK
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSHM
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSHN
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSHR
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSHT
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSHU
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSID
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSIE
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSIL
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSIN
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSIO
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSIQ
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSIR
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINSIS
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINS

[Declude.JunkMail] Declude - Imail Logging

2003-02-07 Thread smb
Scott or anyone,

Looking to see if someone will confirm my thinking.
In trying to compare the IMail log files to the junkmail log files for some
stats.

Is it Correct that in an IMail - Declude JM combination

1) The IMail log files would show 5 SMTMD lines for each email
   (connect, ehlo or helo, Mail From, Rcpt To and \imail\spool\D...)
 
   Curiosity question as it doesn't really matter for my main question
   At this point does IMail creates the Q file also but only logs the D file
   creation. 
 
2) In the case of an email being intercepted by Declude JM and Deleted the 
   IMail log file will only have the above mentioned SMTPD lines.

In short IMail receives the e-mail, records the SMTPD info and hands off to
Declude. If Declude deletes the E-mail (removes the D and/or the Q files)
IMail never records anything else for this e-mail. If Declude passes the
e-mail IMail would then record a SMTP process for the corresponding Q file.

Thanks

Stu

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude - Imail Logging

2003-02-07 Thread R. Scott Perry


Is it Correct that in an IMail - Declude JM combination

1) The IMail log files would show 5 SMTMD lines for each email
   (connect, ehlo or helo, Mail From, Rcpt To and \imail\spool\D...)


There could be more (if there are multiple recipients, for example, there 
would be multiple RCPT TO: lines).  Also, I think that IMail doesn't 
require the EHLO/HELO line, so there could be less as well.  There could be 
other errors or unusual entries that I can't think of, too.

   Curiosity question as it doesn't really matter for my main question
   At this point does IMail creates the Q file also but only logs the 
D file
   creation.

I believe that IMail will create a T*.SMD file (which is the same as the 
Q*.SMD file, but named differently while the TCP/IP connection is still 
open) immediately upon connection, which it updates as new information is 
received from the remote mailserver.  Then, as soon as the DATA statement 
is sent from the remote mailserver (before the \imail\spool\D... line), 
IMail will create the D*.SMD file.  Once the E-mail is finished being 
received, IMail then adds the \imail\spool\D... line to the log.  I 
*could* be wrong about this, but I believe this is how it works.

2) In the case of an email being intercepted by Declude JM and Deleted the
   IMail log file will only have the above mentioned SMTPD lines.


Correct.


In short IMail receives the e-mail, records the SMTPD info and hands off to
Declude. If Declude deletes the E-mail (removes the D and/or the Q files)
IMail never records anything else for this e-mail.


Correct.


If Declude passes the
e-mail IMail would then record a SMTP process for the corresponding Q file.


Correct.
 -Scott

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] newbie progress

2003-02-07 Thread Keith Johnson
Steve,
From your previous message you stated you were using the ROUTETO
parameter to a mailbox called [EMAIL PROTECTED]
So I am running the weight10 test, and doing a ROUTETO
to a mailbox called [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What we do is have the customer (admin for that host.com) login
to Imail's Web Messaging every so often for that user (your case user
called weight10) and look for legitimate email, if found, then they
forward over (using Web Messaging) to the appropriate person for that
domain (your case mymailhost.com)  Also, to aid them, we use the
immsgexp to remove email from this spam account every number of X days
to aid them size limitations on that account.  I hope this is a little
clearer.  

Keith

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 From: Steve Jensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 11:00 PM
 To: Declude (E-mail)
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] newbie progress
 
 
 the HOLD command did the trick.
 Keith, I didn't understand your suggestion.
 
 If i run declude, and it does a HOLD on a particular msg that 
 turns out to be legit, it still requires my intervention. I 
 go in the spam dir, look at the msg, see it's legit and 
 dragndrop to the spool dir.
 
 Is there a way to do it other than this?
 
 Steve
 
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[Declude.JunkMail] external tests

2003-02-07 Thread Bill B.
How does Declude handle an external test that hangs?  Does Declude just keep waiting 
on a response from the external test?...or does it eventually timeout and continue on?

Bill

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Error in Declude log file

2003-02-07 Thread Marc Catuogno
Thanks Scott,

In my zeal to get my global file updated I copied that line from the
latest global file.  It appears that further down the file the same test
was defined. I missed it because it was grouped with most of the tests
that are commented out with a #.

Thanks again - Marc

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry
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Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Error in Declude log file


This is what I m getting in my Declude log:

02/07/2003 02:00:05  Warning: misconfiguration in following line in 
global.cfg file (ip4r is not an ACTION)
02/07/2003 
02:00:05  DSBLip4r   list.dsbl.org 
   *   6  0

The problem is that the Declude JunkMail file can have tests with any
name, 
so when Declude JunkMail sees a line starting with a name it doesn't 
recognize, it assumes that you are defining the test (like the line
shown 
above).  However, when it sees the test name again, it recognizes it as
a 
valid test name, and assumes you are defining the outgoing action.

In this case, the problem is that you have the line in there twice, 
something like:

 DSBLip4r   list.dsbl.org 
 *   6  0
 DSBLip4r   list.dsbl.org 
 *   6  0
 DSBLWARN

In this case, if you remove the duplicate entry, the warning will go
away.
-Scott

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] external tests

2003-02-07 Thread R. Scott Perry


How does Declude handle an external test that hangs?  Does Declude just 
keep waiting on a response from the external test?...or does it eventually 
timeout and continue on?

It will time out after an hour.

If it happens rarely, this wouldn't be a problem.  If there was a problem 
where the external test was never ending, for all E-mail that was scanned, 
then it could cause some mail delivery problems.
  -Scott

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Action for Multiple Tests

2003-02-07 Thread Philip Butler
Actually, it just clicked.  Each test has an assigned weight (which is
alterable) and the amount of tests a email fails determines the weight.  I
filter based on a combined weight and it will take care of emails that fail
several tests.

Thanks for all your help!

Philip Butler
Internal Systems Engineer
Region VI ESC
phone 936.435.2503
fax 936.295.1447
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Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Action for Multiple Tests



That makes sense.  So if I just want to HOLD or DELETE it, is there a good
reference document that I can look at which will demonstrate how to use the
weighted system to respond to messages which fail multiple tests?

What are you looking to do?

The weighting system works by assigning a spam weight to each E-mail,
based on the tests that it fails.  For example, if it fails the BADHEADERS
test (which has a weight of 8 by default) and the DSBL test (which has a
weight of 6 by default), the total spam weight for the E-mail would be 14
(8 plus 6).

If you wanted to hold all incoming E-mail with a weight of 20 or higher,
you would then add the following line to your
\IMail\Declude\$default$.JunkMail file:

 WEIGHT10HOLD

-Scott

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] external tests

2003-02-07 Thread Bill B.
Okay.  I only had it occur twice over the past day with a new external test we built.  
We are gonna fix it, but I was curious how that was handled.  Thanks,

Bill

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From: R. Scott Perry
Sent: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 10:25:14 -0500
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] external tests



How does Declude handle an external test that hangs?  Does Declude just 
keep waiting on a response from the external test?...or does it eventually 
timeout and continue on?

It will time out after an hour.

If it happens rarely, this wouldn't be a problem.  If there was a problem 
where the external test was never ending, for all E-mail that was scanned, 
then it could cause some mail delivery problems.
   -Scott

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Spews is incompetent (well, overzealous at least)

2003-02-07 Thread Mark Smith
Right, the only way to talk to them is through the abuse newsgroup.
The problem is that you have to deal with the comments from the millions
of other As* Hol** on that group.

I love the comments like Well just move to another ISP. Yeah right and
have to re-configure hundreds of IP addresses in DNS records, ASP, PHP,
routing, etc..

:)



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of 
 Phillip B. Holmes
 Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 7:27 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Spews is incompetent (well, 
 overzealous at least)
 
 
 Mark,
 
 I may be off base here, but I am almost positive that 
 spews.org offers no way of communicating with people. There 
 is no way to contact them.
 
 Regards,
 
 Phillip B. Holmes
 Media Resolutions Inc.
 Macromedia Alliance Partner
 http://www.mediares.com
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 1-888-395-4678
 972-889-0201
 
 /* Please send support requests to
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] */
 
 Failure is not falling down but refusing to get up.--- Chinese Proverb
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mark Smith
 Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 8:38 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Spews is incompetent (well, 
 overzealous at least)
 
 
 Here Here!
 
 I'm not defending them at all but they really should use 
 something other then that kiddy farm newsgroup to communicate 
 with. I really think that's half of their perception problem.
 
 Of course their guerilla tactics don't help!
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
  Phillip B. Holmes
  Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 8:03 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Spews is incompetent (well, 
  overzealous at least)
  
  
  Well,
  
  Nah, they're incompetent, overzealous and irresponsible.
  Did I say that out loud?
  
  I feel like I did my part. Today we helped convinced 
 another mid-sized 
  provider (http://www.OLM.com) to stop using spews completely. They 
  implemented spews on 02/03/03 and by 02/05/03 it was gone.
  However, I can't take all the credit. There were PLENTY of 
  ticked off users and admins reading them the riot act.
  
  
  Regards,
  
  Phillip B. Holmes
  Media Resolutions Inc.
  Macromedia Alliance Partner
  http://www.mediares.com
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  1-888-395-4678
  972-889-0201
  
  /* Please send support requests to
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] */
  
  Failure is not falling down but refusing to get up.--- 
 Chinese Proverb
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
  Colbeck, Andrew
  Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 6:02 PM
  To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
  Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Spews is incompetent (well, 
 overzealous at
  least)
  
  
  Check out this article if you haven't already.
  
 http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/29159.html
 
 The link to the Newsgroup message thread for pro vs. con is worth a
 read, and includes some gems.
 
 The short of it is that spews.org often lists a much bigger netblock
 than they need to, on the philosophy that users of their system prefer
 to not deal at all with an ISP that is receiving income by hosting a
 spammer.
 
 For similar reasons, even though it's a pretty darn big ISP through
 acquisitions, my ISP is listed in XBL and BLARS for a very 
 small number
 of spammer infractions.
 
 I use OSSRC but give it a relatively low weight due to the 
 likelihood of
 throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
 
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[Declude.JunkMail] Store and Forward Imail Setup

2003-02-07 Thread Keith Johnson
Title: Store and Forward Imail Setup






Scott,

 Does JunkMail work well with Imail setup in a store and forward setup. We have a tremendous amount of Exchange Clients who are wanting to get their email filtered for spam and viruses with us, however, due to issues with BCC and X-RCPT-TO not being handled correctly through POP3, we need to offer them a different setup. We are (probably) going to buy another copy of Imail and your products to support these type users. I wanted to ensure that their email would get scanned under this type of setup. Thanks for the help.

___


Keith Johnson, MCP

Network Engineer

Network Advocates, Inc.

Tel: 502.412.1050

Fax: 502.412.1058

Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Store and Forward Imail Setup

2003-02-07 Thread John Tolmachoff
Title: Store and Forward Imail Setup









Yes,
all Declude products work in this way, as I am doing that here.





John Tolmachoff MCSE,
CSSA

IT Manager, Network
Engineer

RelianceSoft, Inc.

Fullerton, CA 92835

www.reliancesoft.com







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Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Store
and Forward Imail Setup



Scott,

 Does JunkMail work well with Imail
setup in a store and forward setup. We have a tremendous amount of
Exchange Clients who are wanting to get their email filtered for spam and
viruses with us, however, due to issues with BCC and X-RCPT-TO not being
handled correctly through POP3, we need to offer them a different setup.
We are (probably) going to buy another copy of Imail and your products to
support these type users. I wanted to ensure that their email would get
scanned under this type of setup. Thanks for the help.

___ 

Keith Johnson,
MCP 
Network
Engineer 
Network
Advocates, Inc. 
Tel:
502.412.1050 
Fax:
502.412.1058 
Email:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

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pings come in small packets 












Re: [Declude.JunkMail] declude jm not sometimes not logging INFECTED

2003-02-07 Thread Duane Cox
But in neither of those instances did it detect a virus  only a
vulnerability...

Duane


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Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 12:02 PM
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INFECTED



 During the development of my log analyzer, I noticed the following with
 declude
 For the same type of vulnerability, sometimes it reports INFECTED
sometimes
 it doesn't:
 Why is that?

 It is actually Declude Virus that checks for vulnerabilities.  :)

 The File(s) are INFECTED line occurs if the virus scanner detects a
 virus, whereas it will not occur if the virus scanner does not detect a
virus.
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] declude jm not sometimes not loggingINFECTED

2003-02-07 Thread R. Scott Perry


But in neither of those instances did it detect a virus  only a
vulnerability...


When a vulnerability is detected, it is treated the same as if a virus were 
detected, so references in the logs to virus can mean an E-mail that 
either has a virus or a vulnerability.
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] declude jm not sometimes not logging INFECTED

2003-02-07 Thread Duane Cox

- Original Message -
From: R. Scott Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 12:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] declude jm not sometimes not logging
INFECTED



 But in neither of those instances did it detect a virus  only a
 vulnerability...

 When a vulnerability is detected, it is treated the same as if a virus
were
 detected, so references in the logs to virus can mean an E-mail that
 either has a virus or a vulnerability.
 -Scott

Right, I see that, but I still don't see why declude did not report
INFECTED
My full log for this specific spoolid is below...
The same vulnerability, is detected as CONTAINS A VIRUS but only one
contains INFECTED...


01/23/2003 04:41:31 Qc6d60322006e9eb4 Outlook 'CR' vulnerability
[Received: ] in line 3
01/23/2003 04:41:31 Qc6d60322006e9eb4 Deleting file with virus
01/23/2003 04:41:31 Qc6d60322006e9eb4 Deleting E-mail with virus!
01/23/2003 04:41:31 Qc6d60322006e9eb4 Scanned: CONTAINS A VIRUS [MIME: 0 0]
01/23/2003 04:41:31 Qc6d60322006e9eb4 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
01/23/2003 04:41:31 Qc6d60322006e9eb4 Subject: I took some
pictures...ohljkdqqCloolfrp1qhw


01/23/2003 05:19:44 Qcfc70372007a8cb8 Outlook 'CR' vulnerability
[Return-Pat] in line 53
01/23/2003 05:19:44 Qcfc70372007a8cb8 File(s) are INFECTED [0]
01/23/2003 05:19:44 Qcfc70372007a8cb8 Deleting file with virus
01/23/2003 05:19:44 Qcfc70372007a8cb8 Deleting E-mail with virus!
01/23/2003 05:19:44 Qcfc70372007a8cb8 Scanned: CONTAINS A VIRUS [MIME: 2778]
01/23/2003 05:19:44 Qcfc70372007a8cb8 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
01/23/2003 05:19:44 Qcfc70372007a8cb8 Subject: FW: Smile




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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] declude jm not sometimes not loggingINFECTED

2003-02-07 Thread R. Scott Perry


Right, I see that, but I still don't see why declude did not report
INFECTED
My full log for this specific spoolid is below...
The same vulnerability, is detected as CONTAINS A VIRUS but only one
contains INFECTED...


Because the INFECTED line indicates that the virus scanner detected a 
virus.  In the first case, it did not detect a virus.  In the second case 
it did.
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[Declude.JunkMail] New Util

2003-02-07 Thread Charles Frolick
I have made available a new util for all to use.  It produces MRTG like
graphs of failed Junkmail tests as well as the message count.  I have
also created a web page for all of my utils to be downloaded.
http://spamreview.argolink.net/software/.

If you want to see the graphs it can make go to
http://mail.argolink.net:2180/spamstats.

I also updated an old util to clean out excessive bounce messages, it
has been rewritten in Perl and had some functionality added.

Comments and suggestions are always welcome.

Thanks,
Chuck Frolick
ArgoNet, Inc.

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] New Util

2003-02-07 Thread Smart Business Lists
Charles,

Friday, February 7, 2003 you wrote:
CF Comments and suggestions are always welcome.

Nice job Charles.




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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] declude jm not sometimes not logging INFECTED

2003-02-07 Thread Duane Cox
Hmm, why then did I not get a line that said Virus= ?

Duane


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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 1:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] declude jm not sometimes not logging
INFECTED



 Right, I see that, but I still don't see why declude did not report
 INFECTED
 My full log for this specific spoolid is below...
 The same vulnerability, is detected as CONTAINS A VIRUS but only one
 contains INFECTED...

 Because the INFECTED line indicates that the virus scanner detected a
 virus.  In the first case, it did not detect a virus.  In the second case
 it did.
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] declude jm not sometimes not loggingINFECTED

2003-02-07 Thread R. Scott Perry


Hmm, why then did I not get a line that said Virus= ?


That will appear at LOGLEVEL MID and higher.  Note that that line will not 
appear if the virus name does not appear in the report.txt file.
-Scott

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] New Util

2003-02-07 Thread Charles Frolick
I forgot to mention that the stats grapher works from log level LOW on
up, although I did not test DEBUG, I do not forsee an issue.

Thanks,
Chuck Frolick
ArgoNet, Inc.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Charles Frolick
Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 1:42 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] New Util


I have made available a new util for all to use.  It produces MRTG like
graphs of failed Junkmail tests as well as the message count.  I have
also created a web page for all of my utils to be downloaded.
http://spamreview.argolink.net/software/.

If you want to see the graphs it can make go to
http://mail.argolink.net:2180/spamstats.

I also updated an old util to clean out excessive bounce messages, it
has been rewritten in Perl and had some functionality added.

Comments and suggestions are always welcome.

Thanks,
Chuck Frolick
ArgoNet, Inc.

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] declude jm not sometimes not logging INFECTED

2003-02-07 Thread Duane Cox
My loglevel is set to MID, has always been, this log file was all from the
same day.
Well maybe for somereason F-Prot didn't return the name in the
report.txt

Duane

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Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 2:04 PM
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INFECTED



 Hmm, why then did I not get a line that said Virus= ?

 That will appear at LOGLEVEL MID and higher.  Note that that line will not
 appear if the virus name does not appear in the report.txt file.
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[Declude.JunkMail] Log Question

2003-02-07 Thread Charles Frolick
Has anyone else noticed bad log lines in the JM log?  I will get a short
spurt of partial log entries, usually without a newline to separate
them, occasionally just the end of an entry on a line by itself. Never
seems to last more than a minute. It can really mess with log analysis.

Thanks,
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Store and Forward Imail Setup

2003-02-07 Thread Keith Johnson
John,
 Does Declude realize it is a store and forward scenario, thus it processes 
the mail and then places it back in the spool directory for delievery?  

-Original Message- 
From: John Tolmachoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Fri 2/7/2003 12:42 PM 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Cc: 
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Store and Forward Imail Setup



Yes, all Declude products work in this way, as I am doing that here.

 

John Tolmachoff MCSE, CSSA

IT Manager, Network Engineer

RelianceSoft, Inc.

Fullerton, CA  92835

www.reliancesoft.com

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Keith Johnson
Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 9:29 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Store and Forward Imail Setup

 

Scott, 
Does JunkMail work well with Imail setup in a store and forward setup. 
 We have a tremendous amount of Exchange Clients who are wanting to get their email 
filtered for spam and viruses with us, however, due to issues with BCC and X-RCPT-TO 
not being handled correctly through POP3, we need to offer them a different setup.  We 
are (probably) going to buy another copy of Imail and your products to support these 
type users.  I wanted to ensure that their email would get scanned under this type of 
setup.  Thanks for the help.

___ 

Keith Johnson, MCP 
Network Engineer 
Network Advocates, Inc. 
Tel:   502.412.1050 
Fax:  502.412.1058 
Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Store and Forward Imail Setup

2003-02-07 Thread R. Scott Perry


 Does Declude realize it is a store and forward scenario, thus it 
processes the mail and then places it back in the spool directory for 
delievery?

Yes, it does.  We have quite a few customers who are set up like this.
   -Scott

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[Declude.JunkMail] copy all inbound/outbound mail

2003-02-07 Thread Dan Spangenberg
I know this has been discussed somewhere, either here or in the imail list,
but I can't seem to find it.
How can I copy all inbound and outbound email for a specific user or users
and then possibly for a complete domain?  For incoming mail, I know to use
the ., in the forward field in imail user admin, but not sure how to
accomplish it for outgoing. And not sure how to do it for an entire domain.

Our need is to monitor a couple of specific imail users, and secondly we are
considering archiving all email for a domain.

Is there anything in declude to help me with this?

Thanks
Dan Spangenberg

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Log Question

2003-02-07 Thread Tom
 Has anyone else noticed bad log lines in the JM log?  I will get a short
 spurt of partial log entries, usually without a newline to separate
 them, occasionally just the end of an entry on a line by itself. Never
 seems to last more than a minute. It can really mess with log analysis.

Yes, I have seen this before and I made sure that Delog was able to handle
it.

Regards,
Tom
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] copy all inbound/outbound mail

2003-02-07 Thread Madscientist
You could write a psuedotest for Declude which would handle archiving
all messages fitting a particular profile - or all of them. The utility
would see everything and would be integrated just like any other
external test. We've experimented with a few knowledge base training
systems like this using Message Sniffer to categorize the content with a
special rule base. For you purposes I'll bet something simpler could
work great - perhaps even a simple script.

Just a thought,
_M

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| From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
| [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dan 
| Spangenberg
| Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 5:26 PM
| To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] copy all inbound/outbound mail
| 
| 
| I know this has been discussed somewhere, either here or in 
| the imail list,
| but I can't seem to find it.
| How can I copy all inbound and outbound email for a specific 
| user or users
| and then possibly for a complete domain?  For incoming mail, 
| I know to use
| the ., in the forward field in imail user admin, but not sure how to
| accomplish it for outgoing. And not sure how to do it for an 
| entire domain.
| 
| Our need is to monitor a couple of specific imail users, and 
| secondly we are
| considering archiving all email for a domain.
| 
| Is there anything in declude to help me with this?
| 
| Thanks
| Dan Spangenberg
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[Declude.JunkMail] displaying modified headers in bounce msg

2003-02-07 Thread Bill B.
I have several XINHEADER/XOUTHEADER lines in my GLOBAL.CFG file to provide some useful 
information.  And I have a couple of tests that uses the BOUNCE action, which instert 
the headers and/or full message into the bounced email using the declude variables 
%HEADERS% and %FULLMSG%.  However, these variables insert the original unmodified 
headers.

My question is, is there any way to instert the modified headers into the bounce 
email's message body so that the X- headers that declude adds are displayed?

Thanks,
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] displaying modified headers in bouncemsg

2003-02-07 Thread R. Scott Perry


My question is, is there any way to instert the modified headers into the 
bounce email's message body so that the X- headers that declude adds are 
displayed?

No, there isn't.  It's been added to the suggestion database, but it may 
require having the proper order in the global.cfg file (to make sure that 
all warning headers get added before the BOUNCE action is processed).
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] displaying modified headers in bounce msg

2003-02-07 Thread Bill B.
ok, thanks.  It would be nice, but its definitely not a priority.

Bill


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From: R. Scott Perry
Sent: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 18:35:09 -0500
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] displaying modified headers in bounce
 msg



My question is, is there any way to instert the modified headers into the 
bounce email's message body so that the X- headers that declude adds are 
displayed?

No, there isn't.  It's been added to the suggestion database, but it may 
require having the proper order in the global.cfg file (to make sure that 
all warning headers get added before the BOUNCE action is processed).
-Scott

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] A Couple of Declude Questions

2003-02-07 Thread John Tolmachoff
 I have inherited an server running IMail 6.06.  I have been told that the
 server is running Declude Virus and I can find traces of Declude around
the
 server but I'm having a hard time figuring out how Declude interfaces with
 IMail.  Underneath my IMail directory there is a directory called Declude
 which contains the files:

Dan, welcome to the club.

About the best thing I can recommend is to spend some time reading through
archives, the documents that Scott is sending you, and the Imail KB.

One thing I would suggest is to go to a command prompt, change to the Imail
directory and type in this:
declude -diag c:\declude.txt
and then send that file to Scott so he can review that it is all correct.

Declude Junkmail may be little confusing at first, (test definitions and
actions) but just remember to take small steps and you will move right
along.

John Tolmachoff MCSE, CSSA
IT Manager, Network Engineer
RelianceSoft, Inc.
Fullerton, CA  92835
www.reliancesoft.com


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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] New Util

2003-02-07 Thread Duane Cox
I have a question, how do you get perl to rescan the same log it scanned 5
minutes before, and pick up where it left off?

Duane


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 I forgot to mention that the stats grapher works from log level LOW on
 up, although I did not test DEBUG, I do not forsee an issue.

 Thanks,
 Chuck Frolick
 ArgoNet, Inc.

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 I have made available a new util for all to use.  It produces MRTG like
 graphs of failed Junkmail tests as well as the message count.  I have
 also created a web page for all of my utils to be downloaded.
 http://spamreview.argolink.net/software/.

 If you want to see the graphs it can make go to
 http://mail.argolink.net:2180/spamstats.

 I also updated an old util to clean out excessive bounce messages, it
 has been rewritten in Perl and had some functionality added.

 Comments and suggestions are always welcome.

 Thanks,
 Chuck Frolick
 ArgoNet, Inc.

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] New Util

2003-02-07 Thread Smart Business Lists
Duane,

Friday, February 7, 2003 you wrote:
DC I have a question, how do you get perl to rescan the same log it scanned 5
DC minutes before, and pick up where it left off?

Always more than one way - but here is one possibility:

sub tail_log {
  my $iteration = 0;
  for (;;) {
while (LOGFILE) {
  next unless length;
  # do some stuff
  sleep $nap;
  # dont' forget to check the date to see if we have gone to next day
  # and if so you have to close and then open new log at end and
  # so on
  seek(LOGFILE, 0, 1);
}
  }
}

hth

Terry Fritts

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[Declude.JunkMail] A Couple of Declude Questions

2003-02-07 Thread Dan Geiser
Hello, All,
I have a couple of questions about Declude; one regarding their Virus
product and another regarding their Spam product.

#1) Regarding Declude Virus

I have inherited an server running IMail 6.06.  I have been told that the
server is running Declude Virus and I can find traces of Declude around the
server but I'm having a hard time figuring out how Declude interfaces with
IMail.  Underneath my IMail directory there is a directory called Declude
which contains the files:

installed.bin
postmaster.eml
otherpostmaster.eml
recip.eml
sender.eml
virus.cfg
virus_domains.txt

In the IMail folder itself is a file called Declude.exe.

I am trying to figure out how IMail calls Declude to help it scan for
viruses.  Is this some sort of setting in IMail?  Where is it located in the
IMail administration screens?  Is there any documentation which comes with
Declude Virus?

I am trying to understand how Declude Virus works because we are also
thinking about adding Declude Spam into the mix.  Which brings me to my next
set of questions?

#2) Regarding Declude Spam

How do I get a trial copy of Declude Spam to try out?  Is it's installation
affected by having Declude Virus already on the server?

All comments are appreciated.

Thanks In Advance,
Dan Geiser [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] A Couple of Declude Questions

2003-02-07 Thread R. Scott Perry
 I am trying to figure out how IMail calls Declude to help it scan for
 viruses.  Is this some sort of setting in IMail?  Where is it located in the
 IMail administration screens?

It is either handled by a registry entry, or on the Advanced tab of the 
SMTP settings (if you are running IMail v7.10 or later).  Declude takes 
care of the installation automatically, however.

 Is there any documentation which comes with Declude Virus?

Yes -- I'll send that information to you off the list.

 How do I get a trial copy of Declude Spam to try out?

I'll take care of that off the list, too.

  Is it's installation affected by having Declude Virus already on the 
server?

No, the installation of Declude JunkMail will not be affected by having 
Declude Virus running (you can run all the Declude programs on the same 
server without any problems).
   -Scott
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[Declude.JunkMail] Blacklists

2003-02-07 Thread Rich
Scott and all,

We have the ability to develop a whitelist by domain now, how about the
ability to create a individual blacklist, say something like this in
each junkmail file...

WHITELISTFILE  C:\maillists\cswanson\whitelist.txt
BLACKLISTFILE  C:\maillists\cswanson\blacklist.txt

What prompted this was a customer who is using the Web Email address
book whitelist, and wants to shut down all Hotmail accounts trying to
send him mail other then the ones he has in his address book.  So if I
understand the .JunkMail processing, it's done after the address book is
checked.  So he'd receive his whitelisted hotmail accounts, and anything
else from a hotmail address would be dumped.


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