date:20050321

I am getting a lot of postmaster rejects from bad addresses after turning on
BANEXT for COM attachments. I would like to exclude notifications on my
BANnotify.EML file. Can I do this by inserting SKIPIFBANEXTNAMEHAS COM at
the top of EML file? I am just guessing based on feature to use
SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHAS VIRUS_NAME.

I am still sitting on 1.82 waiting until comfortable with upgrade. I have
looked for the Declude Manuals on the site but see no reference other than
the install manual? I got to tell you guys the Declude site is a real pain
in the rear finding the manuals. I logged on to my account which is no use.
It does not have either of my 2 licenses listed. Nor does it have any links
to the manual. I even downloaded the most recent release version and I see
no readme.txt or manual there either. 

Ohh well... any assistance on the BANEXT COM and excluding the notify for
same on EML file would be most appreciated. Thanks.

-Don


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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Exclude BABEXT Notify for COM

2005-03-21 Thread Matt

There seems to be a bug in all versions where a bogus COM file is still 
bounced as a banned extension (unlike other 'bogus' types that are 
detected).

The workaround is to add SKIPIFEXT COM to the top of your 
bannotify.eml, however this will stop all bounces for COM files 
regardless of whether or not they are found to be 'bogus'.

Matt

Don Schreiner wrote:
I am getting a lot of postmaster rejects from bad addresses after turning on
BANEXT for COM attachments. I would like to exclude notifications on my
BANnotify.EML file. Can I do this by inserting SKIPIFBANEXTNAMEHAS COM at
the top of EML file? I am just guessing based on feature to use
SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHAS VIRUS_NAME.
I am still sitting on 1.82 waiting until comfortable with upgrade. I have
looked for the Declude Manuals on the site but see no reference other than
the install manual? I got to tell you guys the Declude site is a real pain
in the rear finding the manuals. I logged on to my account which is no use.
It does not have either of my 2 licenses listed. Nor does it have any links
to the manual. I even downloaded the most recent release version and I see
no readme.txt or manual there either. 

Ohh well... any assistance on the BANEXT COM and excluding the notify for
same on EML file would be most appreciated. Thanks.
-Don
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] COPYFILE

2005-03-21 Thread Matt





I had to make a sizable kludge to make COPYFILE work the way that I
wanted to due to the lack of the Declude headers. I've requested that
this be addressed in future releases and it is nice to see that I am
not alone even if my own use for this is unique. It's almost valueless
to have the message and not know what it failed as would otherwise be
shown in the headers inserted by Declude.

Matt



Markus Gufler wrote:

  
Using the action COPYFILE, the copied D file does not have 
the Declude Headers.

Can this be changed?

  
  
This would be very usefull.
The COPYFILE action can be used to watch a small range below the hold weight
to watch what's going on there and maybe adapt something in the weighting
system. It also allows introducing new filters or make different tests and
hold a copy of affected messages for further analysis and decision if a
certain new "thing" is working good enough to being introduced in the
weighting system.
In both cases it would be usefull to have all declude resulsts in the
headers as it significantly simplyfies the analysis work.

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Exclude BABEXT Notify for COM

2005-03-21 Thread David Franco-Rocha

Don,
The manuals are on the web site. Select Tech Support at the top of the page 
and you will be taken to links for the manuals.

As for the bogus COM file issue, we understand that this is a problem and 
are looking into ways to resolve it.

David Franco-Rocha
- Original Message - 
From: Don Schreiner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 7:48 AM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Exclude BABEXT Notify for COM


I am getting a lot of postmaster rejects from bad addresses after turning 
on
BANEXT for COM attachments. I would like to exclude notifications on my
BANnotify.EML file. Can I do this by inserting SKIPIFBANEXTNAMEHAS COM at
the top of EML file? I am just guessing based on feature to use
SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHAS VIRUS_NAME.

I am still sitting on 1.82 waiting until comfortable with upgrade. I have
looked for the Declude Manuals on the site but see no reference other than
the install manual? I got to tell you guys the Declude site is a real pain
in the rear finding the manuals. I logged on to my account which is no 
use.
It does not have either of my 2 licenses listed. Nor does it have any 
links
to the manual. I even downloaded the most recent release version and I see
no readme.txt or manual there either.

Ohh well... any assistance on the BANEXT COM and excluding the notify for
same on EML file would be most appreciated. Thanks.
-Don
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Exclude BABEXT Notify for COM

Matt,

This will work for the meantime and thank you very much!

-Don

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Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 8:17 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Exclude BABEXT Notify for COM

There seems to be a bug in all versions where a bogus COM file is still 
bounced as a banned extension (unlike other 'bogus' types that are 
detected).

The workaround is to add SKIPIFEXT COM to the top of your 
bannotify.eml, however this will stop all bounces for COM files 
regardless of whether or not they are found to be 'bogus'.

Matt



Don Schreiner wrote:

I am getting a lot of postmaster rejects from bad addresses after turning
on
BANEXT for COM attachments. I would like to exclude notifications on my
BANnotify.EML file. Can I do this by inserting SKIPIFBANEXTNAMEHAS COM at
the top of EML file? I am just guessing based on feature to use
SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHAS VIRUS_NAME.

I am still sitting on 1.82 waiting until comfortable with upgrade. I have
looked for the Declude Manuals on the site but see no reference other than
the install manual? I got to tell you guys the Declude site is a real pain
in the rear finding the manuals. I logged on to my account which is no use.
It does not have either of my 2 licenses listed. Nor does it have any links
to the manual. I even downloaded the most recent release version and I see
no readme.txt or manual there either. 

Ohh well... any assistance on the BANEXT COM and excluding the notify for
same on EML file would be most appreciated. Thanks.

-Don


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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Exclude BABEXT Notify for COM

2005-03-21 Thread David Franco-Rocha

Matt,
I would like to clarify one issue:
Are you saying that the specific issue is that notifications are erroneously 
being sent for bogus COM files and that the issue is *not* whether bogus COM 
files are being accurately detected?

David Franco-Rocha
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From: Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 8:16 AM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Exclude BABEXT Notify for COM

There seems to be a bug in all versions where a bogus COM file is still 
bounced as a banned extension (unlike other 'bogus' types that are 
detected).

The workaround is to add SKIPIFEXT COM to the top of your bannotify.eml, 
however this will stop all bounces for COM files regardless of whether or 
not they are found to be 'bogus'.

Matt

Don Schreiner wrote:
I am getting a lot of postmaster rejects from bad addresses after turning 
on
BANEXT for COM attachments. I would like to exclude notifications on my
BANnotify.EML file. Can I do this by inserting SKIPIFBANEXTNAMEHAS COM at
the top of EML file? I am just guessing based on feature to use
SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHAS VIRUS_NAME.

I am still sitting on 1.82 waiting until comfortable with upgrade. I have
looked for the Declude Manuals on the site but see no reference other than
the install manual? I got to tell you guys the Declude site is a real pain
in the rear finding the manuals. I logged on to my account which is no 
use.
It does not have either of my 2 licenses listed. Nor does it have any 
links
to the manual. I even downloaded the most recent release version and I see
no readme.txt or manual there either.
Ohh well... any assistance on the BANEXT COM and excluding the notify for
same on EML file would be most appreciated. Thanks.

-Don
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Exclude BABEXT Notify for COM

2005-03-21 Thread Matt





David,

I posted some log snippets last week on the Declude Virus list that
show what is happening.

Yes, the notifications are being sent in error. These COM files are
being detected by Declude Virus as "Bogus", and the proper behavior is
for the bogus identification to override the banned extension, and
disable the sending of the banname.eml file. This is how other bogus
files are handled. Essentially bogus file detection should work
exactly the same as vulnerabilities and disable such notifications.

What is happening currently that has exposed this flaw is one active
zombie spammer is randomizing the name of an image attachment using a
forged E-mail address, most of which end with COM. Declude sees a COM
extension but finds a GIF in the BASE64 code, which is not a COM file
and therefore bogus. Due to the volume and the fact that these are
tripping the banname.eml file, there is a huge volume of postmaster
bounces from undeliverable E-mail (I got over 200 in just 12 hours
before applying the workaround).
Log Snippet
===
03/16/2005 00:00:31 Qbd6eb1a701040a54 MIME file:
[text/html][quoted-printable; Length=5395 Checksum=490002]
03/16/2005 00:00:31 Qbd6eb1a701040a54 MIME file: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[base64; Length=6414 Checksum=850887]
03/16/2005 00:00:31 Qbd6eb1a701040a54 Banning file with COM extension
[image/gif].
03/16/2005 00:00:31 Qbd6eb1a701040a54 Found a bogus .com file
03/16/2005 00:00:31 Qbd6eb1a701040a54 Scanned: Banned file extension.
[Prescan OK][MIME: 3 12614]
03/16/2005 00:00:31 Qbd6eb1a701040a54 From:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
03/16/2005 00:00:31 Qbd6eb1a701040a54 Subject: denigrate cosmetic
scene serge midshipman
  
MIME Snippet
===
--=_NextPart_000_00QP_00N2764VQ_00Y.154D01N0
Content-Type: image/gif;
 name="[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
Content-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Matt



David Franco-Rocha wrote:
Matt,
  
  
I would like to clarify one issue:
  
  
Are you saying that the specific issue is that notifications are
erroneously being sent for bogus COM files and that the issue is *not*
whether bogus COM files are being accurately detected?
  
  
David Franco-Rocha
  
  
  
- Original Message - From: "Matt" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
  
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 8:16 AM
  
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Exclude BABEXT Notify for COM
  
  
  
  There seems to be a bug in all versions where
a bogus COM file is still bounced as a banned extension (unlike other
'bogus' types that are detected).


The workaround is to add "SKIPIFEXT COM" to the top of your
bannotify.eml, however this will stop all bounces for COM files
regardless of whether or not they are found to be 'bogus'.


Matt




Don Schreiner wrote:


I am getting a lot of postmaster rejects
from bad addresses after turning on
  
BANEXT for COM attachments. I would like to exclude notifications on my
  
BANnotify.EML file. Can I do this by inserting SKIPIFBANEXTNAMEHAS COM
at
  
the top of EML file? I am just guessing based on feature to use
  
SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHAS VIRUS_NAME.
  
  
I am still sitting on 1.82 waiting until comfortable with upgrade. I
have
  
looked for the Declude Manuals on the site but see no reference other
than
  
the install manual? I got to tell you guys the Declude site is a real
pain
  
in the rear finding the manuals. I logged on to my account which is no
use.
  
It does not have either of my 2 licenses listed. Nor does it have any
links
  
to the manual. I even downloaded the most recent release version and I
see
  
no readme.txt or manual there either.
  
Ohh well... any assistance on the BANEXT COM and excluding the notify
for
  
same on EML file would be most appreciated. Thanks.
  
  
-Don
  
  
  
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude performance question

2005-03-21 Thread Pete McNeil

On Monday, March 21, 2005, 11:00:49 AM, Chase wrote:

snip/

CS   Looking at our test list (posted bellow), we likely have WAY too
CS many dns blacklists. That will be the first thing I look at. Any
CS other suggestions?

I have had luck running a DNS server (resolver - bind) locally on the
IMail box using the loopback address for the primary DNS (127.0.0.1)
to speed things up. YMMV

Also, take a look at this data to see which tests are performing best
and perhaps weed out some of the others:

http://www.sortmonster.com/MDLP/MDLP-Example-Long.html

Hope this helps,

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[Declude.JunkMail] Declude performance question

I need some help tuning Declude for performance. Up until now, I have been adding tests mainly for spam filtering effectiveness. But I notice now that the server can process about7 messages per second with the spam filtering off, versus only about 1-1.5 messages per second with Declude turned on.I suspect the delays are mostly network IO bound; the processors and ram on the boxes are relatively idle. When Declude is disabled, the CPU is pinned between iMail and come custom database insertion services we have. We do about 200,000 inbound messages a day between two servers, so the speed issue really only comes up when mail has queued up for some reason and needs to be de-queued.

Looking at our test list (posted bellow), we likely have WAY too many dns blacklists. That will be the first thing I look at. Any other suggestions?

I don't think it's any one test, but this is what we have turned on:

AHBLWARNBLITZEDALLWARNCBLWARNDSBLWARNORDBWARNSBLWARNSORBS-HTTPWARNSORBS-SOCKSWARNSORBS-MISCWARNSORBS-SMTPWARNSORBS-SPAMWARNSORBS-WEBWARNSORBS-BLOCKWARNSORBS-ZOMBIEWARNSORBS-DUHLWARNSPAMCOPWARN

DSNWARNNOABUSEWARNNOPOSTMASTERWARN
BADHEADERSWARNBASE64WARNCMDSPACEWARNCOMMENTSWARNHELOBOGUSWARNIPNOTINMXIGNOREMAILFROM WARNNOLEGITCONTENTIGNOREPERCENTWARNREVDNSWARNROUTINGWARNSPAMHEADERSWARN
FIVETENSRCWARNspamhausWARNdsblWARNnjablWARNreynoldsWARNOridWARNJammWARNAHBLWARNsorbsWARNdnsbl-1WARNdnsbl-2WARNsurrielWARN
SNIFFERWARNINV-URIBLWARN
IMAILSTAT WARN

-Chase
Chase Seibert| Network and Systems Engineer | Bullhorn Inc. | 617.464.2440 x119 | www.bullhorn.com

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude performance question

2005-03-21 Thread Pete McNeil

On Monday, March 21, 2005, 11:00:49 AM, Chase wrote:

CS I need some help tuning Declude for performance. Up until

One other thought (pushed send too fast).

You may have a test or two in there that is not responding --- causing
things to time out and slow things down. If you can find it and drop
it things should speed up quite a bit.

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude performance question


I don' have UCEPROTECRDO, XBL-DYNA, BLKLST-SURBL andHELOISIP. Can you post your definitions for those? Can I get them off the declude website somehow (I couldn't find them)?


 -Chase
Chase Seibert| Network and Systems Engineer | Bullhorn Inc | 617.464.2440 x119 | www.bullhorn.com

-Original Message-From:Pete McNeil [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Chase Seibert" ;Sent: Mar 21, 2005 11:16:28 AMSubject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude performance questionOn Monday, March 21, 2005, 11:00:49 AM, Chase wrote: CS Looking at our test list (posted bellow), we likely have WAY too CS many dns blacklists. That will be the first thing I look at. Any CS other suggestions? I have had luck running a DNS server (resolver - bind) locally on the IMail box using the loopback address for the primary DNS (127.0.0.1) to speed things up. YMMV Also, take a look at this data to see which tests are performing best and perhaps weed out some of the others: http://www.sortmonster.com/MDLP/MDLP-Example-Long.html Hope this helps, _M --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude performance question


Any recommendations for Declude add-ins or log readers that might be able to detect the run times of various tests? If I set logging to high would it log runtimes?


 -Chase
Chase Seibert| Network and Systems Engineer | Bullhorn Inc. | 617.464.2440 x119 | www.bullhorn.com

-Original Message-From:Pete McNeil [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Chase Seibert" ;Sent: Mar 21, 2005 11:28:50 AMSubject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude performance questionOn Monday, March 21, 2005, 11:00:49 AM, Chase wrote: CS I need some help tuning Declude for performance. Up until One other thought (pushed send too fast). You may have a test or two in there that is not responding --- causing things to time out and slow things down. If you can find it and drop it things should speed up quite a bit. _M --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude performance question

The test definitions might be more helpful than the
Test actions...

I see AHBL is listed twice.
DSbl is listed twice.Sorbs is listed as are
many of the SORBS individual tests. Possible overlap.
You list CBL/Blitzedall/SBL and Spamhaus listed.
Potential overlap here.
Reynolds is a now pay service I believe. If you
aren't paying maybe that is an issue.

- Original Message -
From:
Chase Seibert

To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com

Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 10:00
AM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude
performance question

I
need some help tuning Declude for performance. Up until now, I have been
adding tests mainly for spam filtering effectiveness. But I notice now that
the server can process about7 messages per second with the spam
filtering off, versus only about 1-1.5 messages per second with Declude turned
on.I suspect the delays are mostly network IO bound; the processors and
ram on the boxes are relatively idle. When Declude is disabled, the CPU is
pinned between iMail and come custom database insertion services we have. We
do about 200,000 inbound messages a day between two servers, so the speed
issue really only comes up when mail has queued up for some reason and needs
to be de-queued.

Looking
at our test list (posted bellow), we likely have WAY too many dns blacklists.
That will be the first thing I look at. Any other suggestions?

I
don't think it's any one test, but this is what we have turned on:

AHBLWARNBLITZEDALLWARNCBLWARNDSBLWARNORDBWARNSBLWARNSORBS-HTTPWARNSORBS-SOCKSWARNSORBS-MISCWARNSORBS-SMTPWARNSORBS-SPAMWARNSORBS-WEBWARNSORBS-BLOCKWARNSORBS-ZOMBIEWARNSORBS-DUHLWARNSPAMCOPWARN

DSNWARNNOABUSEWARNNOPOSTMASTERWARN
BADHEADERSWARNBASE64WARNCMDSPACEWARNCOMMENTSWARNHELOBOGUSWARNIPNOTINMXIGNOREMAILFROM
WARNNOLEGITCONTENTIGNOREPERCENTWARNREVDNSWARNROUTINGWARNSPAMHEADERSWARN
FIVETENSRCWARNspamhausWARNdsblWARNnjablWARNreynoldsWARNOridWARNJammWARNAHBLWARNsorbsWARNdnsbl-1WARNdnsbl-2WARNsurrielWARN
SNIFFERWARNINV-URIBLWARN
IMAILSTAT
WARN

-Chase
Chase
Seibert| Network and Systems Engineer
| Bullhorn Inc. | 617.464.2440 x119
| www.bullhorn.com

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude performance question


Turned out to be that one of our two DNS servers was down; causing a timeout on many of the requests. That's fixed, and Declude is now performing at about 3-4 messages per second. Much better, and not that far off the throughput with zero spam filtering.


 -Chase
Chase Seibert| Network and Systems Engineer | Bullhorn Inc | 617.464.2440 x119 | www.bullhorn.com

-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Declude.JunkMail@declude.com" ;Sent: Mar 21, 2005 11:32:33 AMSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude performance question

Any recommendations for Declude add-ins or log readers that might be able to detect the run times of various tests? If I set logging to high would it log runtimes?


 -Chase
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude performance question




XBL is = CBL  Blitzed all
UCE is probably your dnsbl-1 
dnsbl-2

HELOISIP is an external test to see if the HELo is 
an IP address.
Seehttp://www.mail-archive.com/declude.junkmail@declude.com/msg17819.html

Blklst-surbl might be duplicating the 
invuribl test you are running.

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  To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com 
  
  Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 10:29 
  AM
  Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 
  performance question
  
  
  I 
  don' have UCEPROTECRDO, XBL-DYNA, BLKLST-SURBL andHELOISIP. Can you post 
  your definitions for those? Can I get them off the declude website somehow (I 
  couldn't find them)?
  
  
   
  -Chase
  Chase 
  Seibert| Network and Systems Engineer 
  | Bullhorn Inc | 617.464.2440 x119 
  | www.bullhorn.com
  
  -Original 
  Message-From:Pete McNeil [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: "Chase Seibert" ;Sent: 
  Mar 21, 2005 11:16:28 AMSubject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 
  performance questionOn Monday, March 21, 2005, 11:00:49 AM, Chase 
  wrote: CS Looking at our test list (posted 
  bellow), we likely have WAY too CS many dns blacklists. That will be 
  the first thing I look at. Any CS other suggestions? I have 
  had luck running a DNS server (resolver - bind) locally on the IMail box 
  using the loopback address for the primary DNS (127.0.0.1) to speed things 
  up. YMMV Also, take a look at this data to see which tests are 
  performing best and perhaps weed out some of the others: 
  http://www.sortmonster.com/MDLP/MDLP-Example-Long.html Hope 
  this helps, _M --- This E-mail came from the 
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude performance question




Test runtimes aren't listed in logging level 
HIGH.
They might be in debug mode, but I wouldn't run 
that for long.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Chase Seibert 
  
  To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com 
  
  Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 10:30 
  AM
  Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 
  performance question
  
  
  Any 
  recommendations for Declude add-ins or log readers that might be able to 
  detect the run times of various tests? If I set logging to high would it log 
  runtimes?
  
  
   
  -Chase
  Chase 
  Seibert| Network and Systems Engineer 
  | Bullhorn Inc. | 617.464.2440 x119 
  | www.bullhorn.com
  
  -Original 
  Message-From:Pete McNeil [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: "Chase Seibert" ;Sent: 
  Mar 21, 2005 11:28:50 AMSubject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 
  performance questionOn Monday, March 21, 2005, 11:00:49 AM, Chase 
  wrote: CS I need some help tuning Declude for performance. Up 
  until One other thought (pushed send too fast). You may have a 
  test or two in there that is not responding --- causing things to time out 
  and slow things down. If you can find it and drop it things should speed 
  up quite a bit. _M --- This E-mail came from the 
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Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude performance question

2005-03-21 Thread Pete McNeil

On Monday, March 21, 2005, 11:29:09 AM, Chase wrote:

CS I don' have UCEPROTECRDO, XBL-DYNA, BLKLST-SURBL
CS and HELOISIP. Can you post your definitions for those? Can I get
CS them off the declude website somehow (I couldn't find them)?

UCEPROTECRDOip4rdnsbl-1.uceprotect.net  127.0.0.2   30  0
UCEPROTECCMUL   ip4rdnsbl-2.uceprotect.net  127.0.0.2   32  0
UCEPROTECCVIR   ip4rdnsbl-3.uceprotect.net  127.0.0.2   30  0

I didn't find the others.

_M



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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude performance question

2005-03-21 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)









Here is an idea many of us use:



Configure DNS service on the Imail
server for caching only. 



Point Imail/Declude to use the DNS on
the same server.



Configure the DNS service to use your
other DNS servers and forwarders.



You will see a slight performance boost.





John Tolmachoff

Engineer/Consultant/Owner

eServices For You







-Original Message-
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chase Seibert
Sent: Monday, March
 21, 2005 8:46 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail]
Declude performance question







Turned out to be that
one of our two DNS servers was down; causing a timeout on many of the requests.
That's fixed, and Declude is now performing at about 3-4 messages per second.
Much better, and not that far off the throughput with zero spam filtering.
















-Chase



Chase Seibert| Network
and Systems Engineer | Bullhorn
Inc | 617.464.2440 x119 | www.bullhorn.com

















-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To:
Declude.JunkMail@declude.com ;
Sent: Mar 21, 2005 11:32:33 AM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail]
Declude performance question









Any recommendations
for Declude add-ins or log readers that might be able to detect the run times
of various tests? If I set logging to high would it log runtimes?

















-Chase



Chase Seibert| Network
and Systems Engineer | Bullhorn
Inc | 617.464.2440 x119 | www.bullhorn.com















-Original Message-
From:Pete McNeil
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: Chase Seibert ;
Sent: Mar 21, 2005 11:28:50 AM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail]
Declude performance question




On Monday, March 21, 2005, 11:00:49 AM, Chase
wrote: 

CS I need some help tuning Declude for performance. Up until 

One other thought (pushed send too fast). 

You may have a test or two in there that is not responding --- causing 
things to time out and slow things down. If you can find it and drop 
it things should speed up quite a bit. 

_M 



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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude performance question

2005-03-21 Thread Bud Durland

Chase Seibert wrote:
I don' have UCEPROTECRDO, XBL-DYNA, BLKLST-SURBL and HELOISIP. Can you 
post your definitions for those? Can I get them off the declude 
website somehow (I couldn't find them)?

I wrote the HELOISIP test.  It's not a DNS test.  Rather, it will tell 
you if the HELO or REVDNS of the incoming message has an embedded IP 
address.  While not 100%, this is often an indicator of a spam message 
from a dynamic IP address.  You can download it from 
http://bud.thedurlands.com

Hope this helps
--

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Bud Durland, CNE  Mold-Rite Plastics
Network Administrator  http://www.mrpcap.com

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] filter files




Is there any mail in specific you are trying to 
target?

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Joe 
  Raykiewicz 
  To: declude.junkmail@declude.com 
  
  Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 2:43 
PM
  Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] filter 
  files
  
  
  I am currently thinking about 
  using a filter file to filter out some unwanted messages. Does anyone 
  have some sample filter files that I could use as a starting point? I 
  sure would appreciate some help getting started on 
  this.
  
  Joe

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] filter files

2005-03-21 Thread David Barker

Joe here is a very basic filter but hopefully will help get you started:
 
SKIPIFWEIGHT 16
 
MINWEIGHTTOFAIL  3
MAXWEIGHT   12
 
#Subject
SUBJECT 3 CONTAINS Online Pharmacy
 
#Words
BODY 5 CONTAINS Meds
BODY 2 CONTAINS cheap Perscriptions
BODY 2 CONTAINS No prescription required
BODY 2 CONTAINS No Doctor Visits
 
#Medication
BODY 2 CONTAINS codiene
BODY 2 CONTAINS Codeine
BODY 2 CONTAINS vicodin
BODY 2 CONTAINS viagra
BODY 2 CONTAINS Cialis
 
#URBL
BODY 12 CONTAINS fopq.org
BODY 12 CONTAINS awayhowbad.com
BODY 12 CONTAINS royalmeds.info
BODY 12 CONTAINS uncompromisingmind.com
BODY 12 CONTAINS simply-meds.com
BODY 12 CONTAINS ritheworldofall.com
BODY 12 CONTAINS medberthgood.com
 
#Spam Indicators
BODY 12 CONTAINS Cia|is
BODY 12 CONTAINS Cialls

Here are some good links too:

http://www.mailpure.com/software/decludefilters/
http://it.farmprogress.com/declude/declude.htm
http://www.declude.com/Articles.asp?ID=100

David B
www.declude.com



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I am currently thinking about using a filter file to filter out some
unwanted messages.  Does anyone have some sample filter files that I could
use as a starting point?  I sure would appreciate some help getting started
on this.

 

Joe



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[Declude.JunkMail] OT: Help with AOL Filtering Bulk Mail for a Client

We sent a bulk mailing this morning for a client to 532 addresses. We use
Group Mail and authenticate from our office dedicated IP to our IMAIL server
via the clients account virtual domain. However, the e-mail was rejected to
any AOL address stating that URLs are improperly formatted. We have verified
all formatting of the URL's. Below is what we get back from AOL. 

Body of message generated response: 
554-:  (HVU:NR) http://postmaster.info.aol.com/errors/554hvunr.html   
554 TRANSACTION FAILED 

Below is the URL of the actual e-mail/file itself we sent. The only thing I
can think of is they do not like the sub-domain we are using
news.holisticmoms.org which is what we directed for the plain text folks.
The actual e-mail itself can be viewed at
http://news.holisticmoms.org/index_email.htm.

Also, perhaps they do not like our dedicated office IP number even though we
are sending via our IMail server and authenticated via their virtual domain
account.

Does anyone have any clues about this or the errors of my ways? Thanks.

-Don 

Also, below is the undeliverable return header they provided:

Received: from holisticmoms.org [68.209.181.166] by holisticmoms.org with
ESMTP 
  (SMTPD32-8.12) id AB3337EB002A; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 08:25:07 -0500 
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: HMN Members [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Organization: Holistic Moms Network 
From: Holistic Moms News [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: Holistic Moms Network News March 2005 
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 08:23:59 -0500 
MIME-Version: 1.0 
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; 
boundary==_NextPart_8310132123562132359893 
X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [68.209.181.166] 
X-Declude-Spoolname: Dcb3237eb002a698e.SMD 
X-Note: CompBiz scanned with Declude JunkMail 
X-Spam-Tests-Failed: None [-5] 
Organization: Abuse reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Help with AOL Filtering Bulk Mail for a Client

2005-03-21 Thread Colbeck, Andrew

I've never seen this problem before.

There are certainly a lot or URLs in that message.  Do you know somebody
with an AOL address that you can use as a test subject?  Do a binary
search, and cut the message in half.  Send the message and repeat until
you've succeeded in sending the message, in which case you've isolated
which part of the message as the offending URL.

If you don't have a friendly AOL account to try, perhaps you could just
send the message to their support email address.

I took a brief look at the source; maybe it's this URL:

a href=http://www.bradleybirth.com%20;
target=_blankwww.bradleybirth.com/a

Note the %20 to indicate an unnecessary space at the end of the the URL.
AOL may be seeing this as an attempt to obfuscate the URL.

Andrew 8)

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Schreiner
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 2:30 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Help with AOL Filtering Bulk Mail for a
Client


We sent a bulk mailing this morning for a client to 532 addresses. We
use Group Mail and authenticate from our office dedicated IP to our
IMAIL server via the clients account virtual domain. However, the e-mail
was rejected to any AOL address stating that URLs are improperly
formatted. We have verified all formatting of the URL's. Below is what
we get back from AOL. 

Body of message generated response: 
554-:  (HVU:NR) http://postmaster.info.aol.com/errors/554hvunr.html   
554 TRANSACTION FAILED 

Below is the URL of the actual e-mail/file itself we sent. The only
thing I can think of is they do not like the sub-domain we are using
news.holisticmoms.org which is what we directed for the plain text
folks. The actual e-mail itself can be viewed at
http://news.holisticmoms.org/index_email.htm.

Also, perhaps they do not like our dedicated office IP number even
though we are sending via our IMail server and authenticated via their
virtual domain account.

Does anyone have any clues about this or the errors of my ways? Thanks.

-Don 

Also, below is the undeliverable return header they provided:

Received: from holisticmoms.org [68.209.181.166] by holisticmoms.org
with ESMTP 
  (SMTPD32-8.12) id AB3337EB002A; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 08:25:07 -0500 
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: HMN Members [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Organization: Holistic Moms Network 
From: Holistic Moms News [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: Holistic Moms Network News March 2005 
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 08:23:59 -0500 
MIME-Version: 1.0 
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; 
boundary==_NextPart_8310132123562132359893 
X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [68.209.181.166] 
X-Declude-Spoolname: Dcb3237eb002a698e.SMD 
X-Note: CompBiz scanned with Declude JunkMail 
X-Spam-Tests-Failed: None [-5] 
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Help with AOL Filtering Bulk Mail for a Client

2005-03-21 Thread Darin Cox

Check your left-hand nav...you have some bad links there...

Darin.

- Original Message - 
From: Don Schreiner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 5:29 PM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Help with AOL Filtering Bulk Mail for a
Client

We sent a bulk mailing this morning for a client to 532 addresses. We use
Group Mail and authenticate from our office dedicated IP to our IMAIL server
via the clients account virtual domain. However, the e-mail was rejected to
any AOL address stating that URLs are improperly formatted. We have verified
all formatting of the URL's. Below is what we get back from AOL.

Body of message generated response:
554-:  (HVU:NR) http://postmaster.info.aol.com/errors/554hvunr.html
554 TRANSACTION FAILED

Below is the URL of the actual e-mail/file itself we sent. The only thing I
can think of is they do not like the sub-domain we are using
news.holisticmoms.org which is what we directed for the plain text folks.
The actual e-mail itself can be viewed at
http://news.holisticmoms.org/index_email.htm.

Also, perhaps they do not like our dedicated office IP number even though we
are sending via our IMail server and authenticated via their virtual domain
account.

Does anyone have any clues about this or the errors of my ways? Thanks.

-Don

Also, below is the undeliverable return header they provided:

Received: from holisticmoms.org [68.209.181.166] by holisticmoms.org with
ESMTP
  (SMTPD32-8.12) id AB3337EB002A; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 08:25:07 -0500
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: HMN Members [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Organization: Holistic Moms Network
From: Holistic Moms News [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Holistic Moms Network News March 2005
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 08:23:59 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
boundary==_NextPart_8310132123562132359893
X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [68.209.181.166]
X-Declude-Spoolname: Dcb3237eb002a698e.SMD
X-Note: CompBiz scanned with Declude JunkMail
X-Spam-Tests-Failed: None [-5]
Organization: Abuse reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Help with AOL Filtering Bulk Mail for a Client

Darin/Andrew,

I do not know anyone or have an AOL account to test. Anyone have one by
chance? I checked left NAV and all links look valid, however I am a little
suspect of the Bee Well Therapy Advertiser link with no www and going to
change. Where did you see a bad link in the left NAV? Also the link Andrew
found with the space I am going to look at changing. Thanks guys for
looking!

-Don


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 5:43 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Help with AOL Filtering Bulk Mail for a
Client

Check your left-hand nav...you have some bad links there...

Darin.


- Original Message - 
From: Don Schreiner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 5:29 PM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Help with AOL Filtering Bulk Mail for a
Client


We sent a bulk mailing this morning for a client to 532 addresses. We use
Group Mail and authenticate from our office dedicated IP to our IMAIL server
via the clients account virtual domain. However, the e-mail was rejected to
any AOL address stating that URLs are improperly formatted. We have verified
all formatting of the URL's. Below is what we get back from AOL.

Body of message generated response:
554-:  (HVU:NR) http://postmaster.info.aol.com/errors/554hvunr.html
554 TRANSACTION FAILED

Below is the URL of the actual e-mail/file itself we sent. The only thing I
can think of is they do not like the sub-domain we are using
news.holisticmoms.org which is what we directed for the plain text folks.
The actual e-mail itself can be viewed at
http://news.holisticmoms.org/index_email.htm.

Also, perhaps they do not like our dedicated office IP number even though we
are sending via our IMail server and authenticated via their virtual domain
account.

Does anyone have any clues about this or the errors of my ways? Thanks.

-Don

Also, below is the undeliverable return header they provided:

Received: from holisticmoms.org [68.209.181.166] by holisticmoms.org with
ESMTP
  (SMTPD32-8.12) id AB3337EB002A; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 08:25:07 -0500
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: HMN Members [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Organization: Holistic Moms Network
From: Holistic Moms News [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Holistic Moms Network News March 2005
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 08:23:59 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
boundary==_NextPart_8310132123562132359893
X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [68.209.181.166]
X-Declude-Spoolname: Dcb3237eb002a698e.SMD
X-Note: CompBiz scanned with Declude JunkMail
X-Spam-Tests-Failed: None [-5]
Organization: Abuse reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Help with AOL Filtering Bulk Mail for a Client

2005-03-21 Thread Darin Cox

Look at the About HMN link, for example...

http://www.holisticmoms.org/index.cfm/about

See what I mean?  There are three links like this in the nav that AOL is
complaining about since they don't end with the filename...the path keeps
going.

Darin.


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From: Don Schreiner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 6:15 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Help with AOL Filtering Bulk Mail for a
Client


Darin/Andrew,

I do not know anyone or have an AOL account to test. Anyone have one by
chance? I checked left NAV and all links look valid, however I am a little
suspect of the Bee Well Therapy Advertiser link with no www and going to
change. Where did you see a bad link in the left NAV? Also the link Andrew
found with the space I am going to look at changing. Thanks guys for
looking!

-Don


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 5:43 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Help with AOL Filtering Bulk Mail for a
Client

Check your left-hand nav...you have some bad links there...

Darin.


- Original Message - 
From: Don Schreiner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 5:29 PM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Help with AOL Filtering Bulk Mail for a
Client


We sent a bulk mailing this morning for a client to 532 addresses. We use
Group Mail and authenticate from our office dedicated IP to our IMAIL server
via the clients account virtual domain. However, the e-mail was rejected to
any AOL address stating that URLs are improperly formatted. We have verified
all formatting of the URL's. Below is what we get back from AOL.

Body of message generated response:
554-:  (HVU:NR) http://postmaster.info.aol.com/errors/554hvunr.html
554 TRANSACTION FAILED

Below is the URL of the actual e-mail/file itself we sent. The only thing I
can think of is they do not like the sub-domain we are using
news.holisticmoms.org which is what we directed for the plain text folks.
The actual e-mail itself can be viewed at
http://news.holisticmoms.org/index_email.htm.

Also, perhaps they do not like our dedicated office IP number even though we
are sending via our IMail server and authenticated via their virtual domain
account.

Does anyone have any clues about this or the errors of my ways? Thanks.

-Don

Also, below is the undeliverable return header they provided:

Received: from holisticmoms.org [68.209.181.166] by holisticmoms.org with
ESMTP
  (SMTPD32-8.12) id AB3337EB002A; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 08:25:07 -0500
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: HMN Members [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Organization: Holistic Moms Network
From: Holistic Moms News [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Holistic Moms Network News March 2005
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 08:23:59 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
boundary==_NextPart_8310132123562132359893
X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [68.209.181.166]
X-Declude-Spoolname: Dcb3237eb002a698e.SMD
X-Note: CompBiz scanned with Declude JunkMail
X-Spam-Tests-Failed: None [-5]
Organization: Abuse reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Help with AOL Filtering Bulk Mail for a Client

Darin,

Got it now. The link is valid to the directory not ending with the index
file which is as follows for example:

http://www.holisticmoms.org/index.cfm/about

but you are saying AOL wants to see full path...

http://www.holisticmoms.org/index.cfm/about/index.cfm.

Will let you know if it works. Thanks.

-Don


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 6:22 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Help with AOL Filtering Bulk Mail for a
Client

Look at the About HMN link, for example...

http://www.holisticmoms.org/index.cfm/about

See what I mean?  There are three links like this in the nav that AOL is
complaining about since they don't end with the filename...the path keeps
going.

Darin.


- Original Message - 
From: Don Schreiner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 6:15 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Help with AOL Filtering Bulk Mail for a
Client


Darin/Andrew,

I do not know anyone or have an AOL account to test. Anyone have one by
chance? I checked left NAV and all links look valid, however I am a little
suspect of the Bee Well Therapy Advertiser link with no www and going to
change. Where did you see a bad link in the left NAV? Also the link Andrew
found with the space I am going to look at changing. Thanks guys for
looking!

-Don


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 5:43 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Help with AOL Filtering Bulk Mail for a
Client

Check your left-hand nav...you have some bad links there...

Darin.


- Original Message - 
From: Don Schreiner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 5:29 PM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Help with AOL Filtering Bulk Mail for a
Client


We sent a bulk mailing this morning for a client to 532 addresses. We use
Group Mail and authenticate from our office dedicated IP to our IMAIL server
via the clients account virtual domain. However, the e-mail was rejected to
any AOL address stating that URLs are improperly formatted. We have verified
all formatting of the URL's. Below is what we get back from AOL.

Body of message generated response:
554-:  (HVU:NR) http://postmaster.info.aol.com/errors/554hvunr.html
554 TRANSACTION FAILED

Below is the URL of the actual e-mail/file itself we sent. The only thing I
can think of is they do not like the sub-domain we are using
news.holisticmoms.org which is what we directed for the plain text folks.
The actual e-mail itself can be viewed at
http://news.holisticmoms.org/index_email.htm.

Also, perhaps they do not like our dedicated office IP number even though we
are sending via our IMail server and authenticated via their virtual domain
account.

Does anyone have any clues about this or the errors of my ways? Thanks.

-Don

Also, below is the undeliverable return header they provided:

Received: from holisticmoms.org [68.209.181.166] by holisticmoms.org with
ESMTP
  (SMTPD32-8.12) id AB3337EB002A; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 08:25:07 -0500
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: HMN Members [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Organization: Holistic Moms Network
From: Holistic Moms News [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Holistic Moms Network News March 2005
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 08:23:59 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
boundary==_NextPart_8310132123562132359893
X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [68.209.181.166]
X-Declude-Spoolname: Dcb3237eb002a698e.SMD
X-Note: CompBiz scanned with Declude JunkMail
X-Spam-Tests-Failed: None [-5]
Organization: Abuse reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Help with AOL Filtering Bulk Mail for a Client

2005-03-21 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)

Or shouldn't it at least have a / at then end indicated end of path?

John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
eServices For You


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Schreiner
 Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 3:33 PM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Help with AOL Filtering Bulk Mail for
a Client
 
 Darin,
 
 Got it now. The link is valid to the directory not ending with the index
 file which is as follows for example:
 
 http://www.holisticmoms.org/index.cfm/about
 
 but you are saying AOL wants to see full path...
 
 http://www.holisticmoms.org/index.cfm/about/index.cfm.
 
 Will let you know if it works. Thanks.
 
 -Don
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox
 Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 6:22 PM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Help with AOL Filtering Bulk Mail for
a
 Client
 
 Look at the About HMN link, for example...
 
 http://www.holisticmoms.org/index.cfm/about
 
 See what I mean?  There are three links like this in the nav that AOL is
 complaining about since they don't end with the filename...the path keeps
 going.
 
 Darin.
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Don Schreiner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 6:15 PM
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Help with AOL Filtering Bulk Mail for
a
 Client
 
 
 Darin/Andrew,
 
 I do not know anyone or have an AOL account to test. Anyone have one by
 chance? I checked left NAV and all links look valid, however I am a little
 suspect of the Bee Well Therapy Advertiser link with no www and going to
 change. Where did you see a bad link in the left NAV? Also the link Andrew
 found with the space I am going to look at changing. Thanks guys for
 looking!
 
 -Don
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox
 Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 5:43 PM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Help with AOL Filtering Bulk Mail for
a
 Client
 
 Check your left-hand nav...you have some bad links there...
 
 Darin.
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Don Schreiner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 5:29 PM
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Help with AOL Filtering Bulk Mail for a
 Client
 
 
 We sent a bulk mailing this morning for a client to 532 addresses. We use
 Group Mail and authenticate from our office dedicated IP to our IMAIL
server
 via the clients account virtual domain. However, the e-mail was rejected
to
 any AOL address stating that URLs are improperly formatted. We have
verified
 all formatting of the URL's. Below is what we get back from AOL.
 
 Body of message generated response:
 554-:  (HVU:NR) http://postmaster.info.aol.com/errors/554hvunr.html
 554 TRANSACTION FAILED
 
 Below is the URL of the actual e-mail/file itself we sent. The only thing
I
 can think of is they do not like the sub-domain we are using
 news.holisticmoms.org which is what we directed for the plain text folks.
 The actual e-mail itself can be viewed at
 http://news.holisticmoms.org/index_email.htm.
 
 Also, perhaps they do not like our dedicated office IP number even though
we
 are sending via our IMail server and authenticated via their virtual
domain
 account.
 
 Does anyone have any clues about this or the errors of my ways? Thanks.
 
 -Don
 
 Also, below is the undeliverable return header they provided:
 
 Received: from holisticmoms.org [68.209.181.166] by holisticmoms.org with
 ESMTP
   (SMTPD32-8.12) id AB3337EB002A; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 08:25:07 -0500
 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: HMN Members [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Organization: Holistic Moms Network
 From: Holistic Moms News [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Holistic Moms Network News March 2005
 Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 08:23:59 -0500
 MIME-Version: 1.0
 Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
 boundary==_NextPart_8310132123562132359893
 X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [68.209.181.166]
 X-Declude-Spoolname: Dcb3237eb002a698e.SMD
 X-Note: CompBiz scanned with Declude JunkMail
 X-Spam-Tests-Failed: None [-5]
 Organization: Abuse reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Help with AOL Filtering Bulk Mail for a Client

2005-03-21 Thread Darin Cox

Nope...I'm saying it should either end at

http://www.holisticmoms.org/index.cfm

Or be reparsed as something like

http://www.holisticmoms.org/index.cfm?about

Basically there shouldn't be any more to the path after index.cfm.

Darin.


- Original Message - 
From: Don Schreiner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 6:33 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Help with AOL Filtering Bulk Mail for a
Client


Darin,

Got it now. The link is valid to the directory not ending with the index
file which is as follows for example:

http://www.holisticmoms.org/index.cfm/about

but you are saying AOL wants to see full path...

http://www.holisticmoms.org/index.cfm/about/index.cfm.

Will let you know if it works. Thanks.

-Don


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 6:22 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Help with AOL Filtering Bulk Mail for a
Client

Look at the About HMN link, for example...

http://www.holisticmoms.org/index.cfm/about

See what I mean?  There are three links like this in the nav that AOL is
complaining about since they don't end with the filename...the path keeps
going.

Darin.


- Original Message - 
From: Don Schreiner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 6:15 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Help with AOL Filtering Bulk Mail for a
Client


Darin/Andrew,

I do not know anyone or have an AOL account to test. Anyone have one by
chance? I checked left NAV and all links look valid, however I am a little
suspect of the Bee Well Therapy Advertiser link with no www and going to
change. Where did you see a bad link in the left NAV? Also the link Andrew
found with the space I am going to look at changing. Thanks guys for
looking!

-Don


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 5:43 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Help with AOL Filtering Bulk Mail for a
Client

Check your left-hand nav...you have some bad links there...

Darin.


- Original Message - 
From: Don Schreiner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 5:29 PM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Help with AOL Filtering Bulk Mail for a
Client


We sent a bulk mailing this morning for a client to 532 addresses. We use
Group Mail and authenticate from our office dedicated IP to our IMAIL server
via the clients account virtual domain. However, the e-mail was rejected to
any AOL address stating that URLs are improperly formatted. We have verified
all formatting of the URL's. Below is what we get back from AOL.

Body of message generated response:
554-:  (HVU:NR) http://postmaster.info.aol.com/errors/554hvunr.html
554 TRANSACTION FAILED

Below is the URL of the actual e-mail/file itself we sent. The only thing I
can think of is they do not like the sub-domain we are using
news.holisticmoms.org which is what we directed for the plain text folks.
The actual e-mail itself can be viewed at
http://news.holisticmoms.org/index_email.htm.

Also, perhaps they do not like our dedicated office IP number even though we
are sending via our IMail server and authenticated via their virtual domain
account.

Does anyone have any clues about this or the errors of my ways? Thanks.

-Don

Also, below is the undeliverable return header they provided:

Received: from holisticmoms.org [68.209.181.166] by holisticmoms.org with
ESMTP
  (SMTPD32-8.12) id AB3337EB002A; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 08:25:07 -0500
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: HMN Members [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Organization: Holistic Moms Network
From: Holistic Moms News [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Holistic Moms Network News March 2005
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 08:23:59 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
boundary==_NextPart_8310132123562132359893
X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [68.209.181.166]
X-Declude-Spoolname: Dcb3237eb002a698e.SMD
X-Note: CompBiz scanned with Declude JunkMail
X-Spam-Tests-Failed: None [-5]
Organization: Abuse reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Help with AOL Filtering Bulk Mail for a Client

2005-03-21 Thread Matt Robertson

What Don is doing is something thats been around for quite a while,
and not just in ColdFusion.  In CF its commonly called a FakeURL and
the intent of it is to make a url search engine safe by removing the
?'s and 's and replacing them with slashes.

Its been around for years.  I've never heard of anything like what AOL
is doing.  If they're serious about blacklisting this sort of thing
then it would break zillions of web sites, or more accurately any
email pointing to them.

-- 
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Janitor, MSB Web Systems
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Help with AOL Filtering Bulk Mail for a Client

Darin,

The entire problem here is the page is dynamically generated via CF and
database and the correct page will not come up any other way, only the home
page of the site. This code has been in use about 6 years this way and would
be a major deal to change all. Found an AOL test subject and going to try
Johns suggestion on ending with /. Let you know what happens.

-Don


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 6:47 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Help with AOL Filtering Bulk Mail for a
Client

Nope...I'm saying it should either end at

http://www.holisticmoms.org/index.cfm

Or be reparsed as something like

http://www.holisticmoms.org/index.cfm?about

Basically there shouldn't be any more to the path after index.cfm.

Darin.


- Original Message - 
From: Don Schreiner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 6:33 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Help with AOL Filtering Bulk Mail for a
Client


Darin,

Got it now. The link is valid to the directory not ending with the index
file which is as follows for example:

http://www.holisticmoms.org/index.cfm/about

but you are saying AOL wants to see full path...

http://www.holisticmoms.org/index.cfm/about/index.cfm.

Will let you know if it works. Thanks.

-Don


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 6:22 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Help with AOL Filtering Bulk Mail for a
Client

Look at the About HMN link, for example...

http://www.holisticmoms.org/index.cfm/about

See what I mean?  There are three links like this in the nav that AOL is
complaining about since they don't end with the filename...the path keeps
going.

Darin.


- Original Message - 
From: Don Schreiner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 6:15 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Help with AOL Filtering Bulk Mail for a
Client


Darin/Andrew,

I do not know anyone or have an AOL account to test. Anyone have one by
chance? I checked left NAV and all links look valid, however I am a little
suspect of the Bee Well Therapy Advertiser link with no www and going to
change. Where did you see a bad link in the left NAV? Also the link Andrew
found with the space I am going to look at changing. Thanks guys for
looking!

-Don


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 5:43 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Help with AOL Filtering Bulk Mail for a
Client

Check your left-hand nav...you have some bad links there...

Darin.


- Original Message - 
From: Don Schreiner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 5:29 PM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Help with AOL Filtering Bulk Mail for a
Client


We sent a bulk mailing this morning for a client to 532 addresses. We use
Group Mail and authenticate from our office dedicated IP to our IMAIL server
via the clients account virtual domain. However, the e-mail was rejected to
any AOL address stating that URLs are improperly formatted. We have verified
all formatting of the URL's. Below is what we get back from AOL.

Body of message generated response:
554-:  (HVU:NR) http://postmaster.info.aol.com/errors/554hvunr.html
554 TRANSACTION FAILED

Below is the URL of the actual e-mail/file itself we sent. The only thing I
can think of is they do not like the sub-domain we are using
news.holisticmoms.org which is what we directed for the plain text folks.
The actual e-mail itself can be viewed at
http://news.holisticmoms.org/index_email.htm.

Also, perhaps they do not like our dedicated office IP number even though we
are sending via our IMail server and authenticated via their virtual domain
account.

Does anyone have any clues about this or the errors of my ways? Thanks.

-Don

Also, below is the undeliverable return header they provided:

Received: from holisticmoms.org [68.209.181.166] by holisticmoms.org with
ESMTP
  (SMTPD32-8.12) id AB3337EB002A; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 08:25:07 -0500
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: HMN Members [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Organization: Holistic Moms Network
From: Holistic Moms News [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Holistic Moms Network News March 2005
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 08:23:59 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
boundary==_NextPart_8310132123562132359893
X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [68.209.181.166]
X-Declude-Spoolname: Dcb3237eb002a698e.SMD
X-Note: CompBiz scanned with Declude JunkMail
X-Spam-Tests-Failed: None [-5]
Organization: Abuse reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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[Declude.JunkMail] OT: on nuisance messages

2005-03-21 Thread Colbeck, Andrew

To anybody that cares, I just added

http://si20.com/auth?uid=

to my custom JunkMail Pro filter file which contains identifying strings
for Challenge/Response and other nuisance messages.

I'm sorry if this message is considered too far off topic.

Andrew.

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Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 2:56 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Colbeck, Andrew
Subject: Re: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Help with AOL Filtering Bulk
Mail for a Client


Colbeck, Andrew,

This is Joseph Trimboli, System Administrator, Cyberlink, Inc. I am
running Spam Interceptor to get rid of junk email. Please follow this
link to verify that the message you sent me isn't junk email.

http://si20.com/auth?uid=2600mid=144sid=AColbeck%40Bentall.com

Your email was intercepted because it got a spam rating of 2.4 and I set
Spam Interceptor to ask everyone who sends me a message rated over 2 to
authenticate. When you authenticate I'll receive your email and you'll
never have to authenticate for me again, no matter what spam rating your
emails get.

Thanks,
Joseph Trimboli, System Administrator, Cyberlink, Inc

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] filter files

2005-03-21 Thread Joe Raykiewicz

Thanks to both of you.  I am looking to get mostly obscene stuff, but the 
medical stuff would be very good to catch also.  I will start with this and 
then adventure out on my own:D
On a side note has anyone used Message Sniffer, and would it help with this 
type of stuff or am i looking in the wrong direction?

Thanks again,

Joe


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From: David Barker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Date:  Mon, 21 Mar 2005 16:04:55 -0500

Joe here is a very basic filter but hopefully will help get you started:
 
SKIPIFWEIGHT 16
 
MINWEIGHTTOFAIL  3
MAXWEIGHT   12
 
#Subject
SUBJECT 3 CONTAINS Online Pharmacy
 
#Words
BODY 5 CONTAINS Meds
BODY 2 CONTAINS cheap Perscriptions
BODY 2 CONTAINS No prescription required
BODY 2 CONTAINS No Doctor Visits
 
#Medication
BODY 2 CONTAINS codiene
BODY 2 CONTAINS Codeine
BODY 2 CONTAINS vicodin
BODY 2 CONTAINS viagra
BODY 2 CONTAINS Cialis
 
#URBL
BODY 12 CONTAINS fopq.org
BODY 12 CONTAINS awayhowbad.com
BODY 12 CONTAINS royalmeds.info
BODY 12 CONTAINS uncompromisingmind.com
BODY 12 CONTAINS simply-meds.com
BODY 12 CONTAINS ritheworldofall.com
BODY 12 CONTAINS medberthgood.com
 
#Spam Indicators
BODY 12 CONTAINS Cia|is
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Here are some good links too:

http://www.mailpure.com/software/decludefilters/
http://it.farmprogress.com/declude/declude.htm
http://www.declude.com/Articles.asp?ID=100

David B
www.declude.com



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Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] filter files



I am currently thinking about using a filter file to filter out some
unwanted messages.  Does anyone have some sample filter files that I could
use as a starting point?  I sure would appreciate some help getting started
on this.

 

Joe



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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Help with AOL Filtering Bulk Mail for a Client

Matt/Darin/John/Andrew,

Inserting the trailing / on the URLs ending with a directory - did the trick
and passed the AOL filter. I learned something again today. Thanks for your
help! This list is the best!


-Don

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Robertson
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 6:59 PM
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Client

What Don is doing is something thats been around for quite a while,
and not just in ColdFusion.  In CF its commonly called a FakeURL and
the intent of it is to make a url search engine safe by removing the
?'s and 's and replacing them with slashes.

Its been around for years.  I've never heard of anything like what AOL
is doing.  If they're serious about blacklisting this sort of thing
then it would break zillions of web sites, or more accurately any
email pointing to them.

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[Declude.JunkMail] OT: Reverse DNS and 554 Denied