Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: pgp in emails - can you read my emails?

2006-09-14 Thread Darrell \([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Craig, 

As you know SMTP is not designed for content security.  To protect the 
content of the message one would have to encrypt the content of the message 
via PGP or another tool.  In this case the message content would not be 
filtered by Declude as they wont be able to unencrypt the body contents.  
However, the headers are not encrypted so RBL lookup's will still be 
effective. 

On a client I consulted for between them and thier lawyers we implemented 
TLS but for this to work both sides need to support it and it only protects 
the contents being transported.  On the remote end after the TLS transport 
is done it goes back to being clear text. 

In general when this question is asked I always explain that smtp is in 
clear text and it should be assumed that anything in email is readable by 
someone at some point.  The other part they need to know is that from time 
to time we do what we call spam blitzes.  This is when we make a copy of 
all messages going through the system to determine how much spam is getting 
through or not getting through.  All of this needs to be clearly spelled our 
and communicated to the customers so they understand this. 


Darrell
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Craig Edmonds writes: 


Hi All,
 
Some clients have voiced some concern over the ability of me and my team

having access to their mail whilst it passes through my mail network.
 
Of course, I dont engage in reading peoples emails whilst performing email

administration but nevertheless the opportunity is there and we do have
access to it.
 
I have been reading a little about PGP in relation to email and it looks

like they (the clients) have to make the effort to secure their mail on
their computer first before sending.
 
Is there any guidance/tips/wording I can give my clients to give them the

option to make thier emails secure?
 
Is there a solution out their I can enable server side which automatically

encrypts incoming emails?
 
If emails are encryypted, can declude filter them?
 
How does everyone else answer the question of can you read my emails

question?
 
I am using IMAIL, WIN 2003, Declude 4.3.7 if thats any help.
 
Kindest Regards

Craig Edmonds
123 Marbella Internet
W: www.123marbella.com http://www.123marbella.com/ 
E : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  



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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Newest version

2006-09-14 Thread Nick Hayer

This regex works
\b(PHA)+([a-zA-Z]+(RMA))\b
as well as this one for the other morph
\b(PHA)+([a-zA-Z]+(RMACY))\b
-Nick


Ferrell Ard wrote:

We are seeing a lot of email with the Subject line

Subject: X-IMail-SPAM  PHAujyRMA

The KEY to the subject line is 
(1) 1st 3 letters are always  PHA

(2) letters 4-6 are random and lower case
(3) letters 7 - 9 are always  RMA

Does anyone know of a way to TRASH these
emails?

Thanks very much
Ferrell


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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: pgp in emails - can you read my emails?

2006-09-14 Thread Bill Landry



There are a few e-mail encryption services out 
there (e.g, see Sigaba Zix, among others). We provide an 
encrypted e-mail service for our healthcare customers that encrypts messages, 
not only in transport, but while stored in their mailboxes, as well. We 
also provide a TLS/SSL gateway server that requires the e-mail client (Outlook, 
OE, Thunderbird, Opera, Eudora, etc.) to establish a TLS/SSL session to the 
server on either Port 25 (SMTP), 465 (SMTPS) or 587 (Submission) and once the 
encrypted session is established, then the SMTP Authentication challenge takes 
place before the server will accept a message for relaying (that way plain text 
passwords are encrypted in transport).

Utilizing TLS/SSL over ports 465 and 587, as well 
as 25, enables us to also support those customers that may be using an ISP that 
blocks port 25 outbound. Port 25 inbound and outbound can be set to 
advertise its TLS/SSL support, and can either require it or accept it, if 
offered. Here is a sample header from a 
message delivered though one of our secure gateways by an e-mail 
client:

Received: from SOMEHOST (unknown 
[xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DES-CBC3-SHA 
(168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) 
by mail.example.com (Secure E-Mail Service) with ESMTP id 
1234567
We do not publish the SMTP Auth header, but could 
if we wanted to trigger spam filtering bypass for authenticated users. 
However, in our case, only authenticated user can relay through these gateways, 
so the header is unnecessary. And if you wanted to be "real" secure, you 
could request or even require client certificates for two-way 
authentication.

This same serveralso supports IMAPS (port 
993), POP3S (port 995), and HTTPS (port 443). And best of all, it is all 
done with open source software, from the OS to all necessary e-mail 
applications, including spam filtering and virus scanning. It's a really 
nice setup and is very fast and efficient, as well. If you would like all 
of the gory details, e-mail me off-list.

Bill

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Craig 
  Edmonds 
  To: declude.junkmail@declude.com 
  
  Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 3:26 
  AM
  Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: pgp in 
  emails - can you read my emails?
  
  Hi 
  All,
  
  Some clients have 
  voiced some concern over the ability of me and my team having access to their 
  mail whilst it passes through my mail network.
  
  Of course, I dont 
  engage in reading peoples emails whilst performing email administration but 
  nevertheless the opportunity is there and we do have access to 
  it.
  
  I have been 
  reading a little about PGP in relation to email and it looks like they (the 
  clients) have to make the effort to secure their mail on their computer first 
  before sending.
  
  Is there any 
  guidance/tips/wording I can give my clients to give them the option to make 
  thier emails secure?
  
  Is there a 
  solution out their I can enable server side which automatically encrypts 
  incoming emails?
  
  If emails are 
  encryypted, can declude filter them?
  
  How does everyone 
  else answer the question of "can you read my emails 
  question"?
  
  I am using IMAIL, 
  WIN 2003, Declude 4.3.7 if thats any help.
  
  Kindest RegardsCraig 
  Edmonds123 Marbella InternetW: www.123marbella.comE : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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