RE: [Declude.JunkMail] FROMNOMATCH returning high scores

2011-05-19 Thread Jim Comerford
Was it invURIBL by any chance? If so did you find a cause?



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Subject: re: [Declude.JunkMail] FROMNOMATCH returning high scores



I haven't seen it on FROMNOMATCH but have seen it elsewhere; specifically when 
an external app throws an exception.  Bottom line somewhere declude or some 
other app threw an exception - the wacko score is the result.

-Nick

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From: Jim Comerford jcomerf...@sbsnet.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 1:13 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] FROMNOMATCH returning high scores


Has anyone else seen the FROMNOMATCH test returning ridiculously high scores 
(like 1027774676) event though its not configured to do so... and yet Declude 
does not act on the cumulative score, so for example a message with score 
1027774676 would not get deleted like it is configured to at a score of 30?

Curious if anyone else is seeing this and if they know the cause.

-Jim


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[Declude.JunkMail] FROMNOMATCH returning high scores

2011-05-18 Thread Jim Comerford
Has anyone else seen the FROMNOMATCH test returning ridiculously high scores 
(like 1027774676) event though its not configured to do so... and yet Declude 
does not act on the cumulative score, so for example a message with score 
1027774676 would not get deleted like it is configured to at a score of 30?

Curious if anyone else is seeing this and if they know the cause.

-Jim


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] FROMNOMATCH returning high scores

2011-05-18 Thread Jim Comerford
Well I just solved 1/2 the problem.
The range I had defined did not go past  so that’s why they were not 
acted on.

Still unsolved is the very high score from FROMNOMATCH test - I'm working with 
DECLUDE on it, but curious if anyone but me has sees that happen.



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From: Herb Guenther [mailto:h...@lanex.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 1:31 PM
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I have not seen that.

Herb

On 5/18/2011 12:12 PM, Jim Comerford wrote:
 Has anyone else seen the FROMNOMATCH test returning ridiculously high scores 
 (like 1027774676) event though its not configured to do so... and yet Declude 
 does not act on the cumulative score, so for example a message with score 
 1027774676 would not get deleted like it is configured to at a score of 30?

 Curious if anyone else is seeing this and if they know the cause.

 -Jim


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Sniffer Integration - Global Exit Code nonzero?

2010-04-30 Thread Jim Comerford
So what's the difference between the SNIFFER test as Internal vs External?
Is one faster than the other?  Assuming you did not want to check the
individual tests (ie SNIFFER-TRAVEL) is there an advantage to using one over
the other?

 

Internal:

SNIFFER   external   nonzero
C:\Smartermail\Declude\Sniffer\xxx.exe xxxabc12312
0

SNIFFER-TRAVEL  SNFx
47
12   0

 

External 

SNIFFER   external   nonzero
D:\IMAIL\Declude\SNF\SNFClient.exe12   0

 

-Jim

 

 

From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of David
Barker
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 11:14 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Sniffer Integration - Global Exit Code
nonzero?

 

The test works as an internal test and not as an external test. The main
difference being the location of the exit code. See external is the 1st
variable whereas the internal it is the 2nd variable and the NONZERO does
not work for that.

 

SNIFFER   external   nonzero
C:\Smartermail\Declude\Sniffer\xxx.exe xxxabc12312
0

SNIFFER-TRAVEL  SNFx
47
12   0

 

Also even though there are multiple entries the test only runs once and the
resulted exit code is the triggered.

David

 

From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Andy
Schmidt
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 10:31 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Sniffer Integration - Global Exit Code
nonzero?

 

Hi Dave,

 

Thanks for taking the time to explain it. I see that the sample on your web
site has already been corrected to read IPREPUTATIONSNFIPREP  and I
was simply working off an earlier copy.

 

For the SNF test type, is there a way to have a global match (e.g.,
NONZERO), instead of having to specify each of the 18 (current) return codes
one at a time? The external Sniffer simply allow me to code:

 

SNIFFER   external   nonzero
D:\IMAIL\Declude\SNF\SNFClient.exe10   0

 

Best Regards,

Andy

 

From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of David
Barker
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 10:05 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Sniffer Integration

 

SNFIPBLACK  SNFIP   the 2nd variable value is 5 = Block and works as
an exit code.

 

IPREPUTATION works differently.

 

Note: IPREPUTATIONSNFIP  please update this to IPREPUTATIONSNFIPREP
x   0   10  -5 this should be the default.

 

SNFIPREP  represents a scale of   -1- 0 - 1  when the 2nd variable
(BASEPOINT) is set to 0 this will convert the IP reputation to this scale as
the examples below:

 

If final score is 0 no score is added to the email

dec0430.log1842   04/30/2010 00:01:20.700 49319588 SNFIPRep the
Value of Result = 0.00

 

If final score is + the 3rd variable score is used in this case 10

dec0430.log7351   04/30/2010 00:07:14.043 49319625 SNFIPRep the
Value of Result = 0.267262

 

If final score is - the 4th variable score is used in this case -5

dec0430.log1192604/30/2010 00:08:50.340 49319647 SNFIPRep the
Value of Result = -0.267262

 

The BASEPOINT is the point value at which an email will be considered Good
if the result is to the left or Bad if to the right.

 

(SNIFFER RETURN) x 10 - (BASEPOINT) = Result

 

Example:

 

0.267262  x 10 - 0 = 2 This is positive then the test is triggered for 10
points.

0.267262  x 10 - 1 = 1 This is positive then the test is triggered for 10
points.

0.267262  x 10 - 2 = 0 Not Triggered.

0.267262  x 10 - 3 = -1 This is negative then the test is not-triggered for
-5 points.

0.267262  x 10 - 4 = -2 This is negative then the test is not-triggered for
-5 points.

 

-0.267262  x 10 - 0 = -2 This is negative then the test is not-triggered for
-5 points.

-0.267262  x 10 - 1 = -1 This is negative then the test is not-triggered for
-5 points.

-0.267262  x 10 - 2 = 0 Not Triggered.

-0.267262  x 10 - 3 = -1 This is negative then the test is not-triggered for
-5 points.

-0.267262  x 10 - 4 = -2 This is negative then the test is not-triggered for
-5 points.

 

David Barker
VP Operations Declude
Your Email security is our business
978.499.2933 office
978.988.1311 fax
 mailto:dbar...@declude.com dbar...@declude.com

 

, April 30, 2010 1:26 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Sniffer Integration

 

Hi,

 

1.   I'm confused about the Sniffer integration sample:

 

SNFIPBLACK  SNFIP   x   5   10  0

IPREPUTATIONSNFIP   x   5   10  -5


It seems to me as if BOTH lines test the SAME Sniffer return code of 5 -
but one line assigns adds a weight of 10 when found, 

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Enumerating and Weighting IP4R/RHSBL/DNSBL tests

2010-04-29 Thread Jim Comerford
I also use fresh15.spameatingmonkey.net and urired.spameatingmonkey.net in
my invuribl config

Do you happen to know the config lines you need for invuribl to use
these...?



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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Problems with AUTOWHITELIST

2008-11-10 Thread Jim Comerford
How about a per-domain config... You can turn off AUTOWHITELIST for that
customer.

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Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 11:31 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Problems with AUTOWHITELIST

I am having an issue with AUTOWHITELIST.  I have a customer who's users use
the web mail client exclusively.  Because of this, they put each other in
their address books.  As spammers will spoof email to one user with another
user from the same domain's address, this becomes a problem.  With
AUTOWHITELIST ON, all of this type of spam gets whitelisted.  I cannot turn
the feature off because that is how I let my other customers manage their
personal whitelist.

I would request that Declude offer an alternative to AUTOWHITELIST.  Give me
a test whereby I can assign a weight to an email if the sender is in the
address book.  That way, I can assign an appropriate negative weight to
allow some of the email to come through but still catch the real bad stuff. 
Once it's whitelisted, nothing else can be done.  This also goes for
WHITELIST AUTH.  Give us a test whereby I can test for Authentication and do
whatever I want based on that.

Please help,
Don



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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Forged-Spam Backscatter

2008-04-07 Thread Jim Comerford
What is the reccommended entry in global.cfg for this filter... Does it also
need an entry in $default$.junkmail files(s)

Thanks,
Jim Comerford

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fax 908-517-9318
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David
Barker
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 2:01 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Forged-Spam Backscatter



I have posted the backscatter filters we use under the download section of
Declude, any feedback is welcome.


David B

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Colbeck,
Andrew
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 6:42 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Forged-Spam Backscatter

 

Symantec says that backscatter-as-deliberate-spam-technique is back in
vogue. See their April State of Spam Report

 

http://www.symantec.com/enterprise/security_response/weblog/2008/04/post_8.h
tml

 

 

Andrew.

 

 

 


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Todd
Richards
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 12:43 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Forged-Spam Backscatter

Jim -

 

I'm running the exact same set up as you are.  We had the same problem about
two weeks ago.  I don't know if this made much difference or not, but I
noticed the domains that we were seeing this with did not have any SPF
records in place.  So when I saw this sudden increase come through, I added
a strict SPF policy for that domain.  The backscatter for that domain all
but stopped.  A few days later, a different domain was targeted - without an
SPF record - and adding one seemed to cure that.  This happened a few more
times, with the results all the same.

 

I'm not at an expert level to say whether this did or did not do the trick.
Perhaps it was just coincidental.  All the new domains that are set up and
running services through us get strict SPF records put in place from the
start.  However, the older domains that have been around for a while - that
didn't have SPF in place - were the ones that seemed to have had the
problem.  And since then, we haven't had any more problems with that.

 

I can't say for sure that them having their email addresses on their
websites was the problem for sure or not.  For what it's worth, my new
policy is to not put email addresses on public websites.

 

Anyway, just thought I would throw that out there.  

 

Todd

 

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim
Comerford
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 1:46 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Forged-Spam Backscatter

 

Over the last several weeks we have seen a dramatic increase in spam hitting
our server.  From about 70,000 mails a day to around 110,000 /day.

 

Most destined for our users is getting properly filtered by declude.

 

What is getting thru is backscatter from spam that is forging addresses from
domains we host.  It seems just about any address that is posted on a
website seems to be being used to forge outgoing spam (not from our server)
-- and is generating all sorts of bounce messages.

 

I suspect there is not much I can do to block this backscatter without
blocking legit bounce messages... but I thought I'd ask.

 

Here is our config:

Imail 8.22

Declude 4.3.64

invURIBL 3.1.1

Sniffer


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[Declude.JunkMail] Forged-Spam Backscatter

2008-04-03 Thread Jim Comerford
Over the last several weeks we have seen a dramatic increase in spam hitting
our server.  From about 70,000 mails a day to around 110,000 /day.
 
Most destined for our users is getting properly filtered by declude.
 
What is getting thru is backscatter from spam that is forging addresses from
domains we host.  It seems just about any address that is posted on a
website seems to be being used to forge outgoing spam (not from our server)
-- and is generating all sorts of bounce messages.
 
I suspect there is not much I can do to block this backscatter without
blocking legit bounce messages... but I thought I'd ask.
 
Here is our config:
Imail 8.22
Declude 4.3.64
invURIBL 3.1.1
Sniffer


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Forged-Spam Backscatter

2008-04-03 Thread Jim Comerford
... but I noticed the domains that we were seeing this with did not have any
SPF records in place.  So when I saw this sudden increase come through, I
added a strict SPF policy for that domain.  The backscatter for that domain
all but stopped.  ... 

 

Good thing to check... the latest domain to get hit did NOT have an SPF
record (and this seems to have been the worst so far)... BUT MOST of the
ones that did get hit - did have an SPF record and we still get backscatter.

 

We typically add SPF on all domains.. but in reviewing we had missed a
couple of them.

 

Hopefully the Filter that David is referring to will help.



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[Declude.JunkMail] Need to Filter...

2008-03-11 Thread Jim Comerford
Hi,
 
I have a customer that keep getting a certain message I would like to block.
Here are the headers. It always has the  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] address in there.  How best to block this message.  I have
changed my customers email address in these headers to
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
Microsoft Mail Internet Headers Version 2.0

Received: from mail.sbsnet.com ([63.147.233.20]) by thisdomain.com with
Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830);

Wed, 5 Mar 2008 16:28:11 -0500

Received: from py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.182] by mail.sbsnet.com
with ESMTP

(SMTPD-8.22) id A7A5023C; Wed, 05 Mar 2008 15:50:45 -0500

Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u52so2871078pyb.10

for someone mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] @thisdomain; Wed, 05 Mar 2008
12:50:42 -0800 (PST)

DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;

d=googlemail.com; s=gamma;

h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to:subject:date;

bh=7XAeQbBfpxM7+gtXqB4pHXkly3zKIUhT03M6xBGz6Fs=;

b=R3EKQ9CkpX9inopXhNybOUkX9PkvZGe6zWd7/6n+iZVdGJVHwBJgnbH3jcKZPA7+RQzuZq

Ptc28yS1czmWq4lt/k16yAxZ/iQLzbkPTotnh87GaRLnQzXAJTnyGi6I7+BULIwiODZqda2R

0ZLKqOIWMPwN6nhCLcP/yTCtdgWjs=

DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws;

d=googlemail.com; s=gamma;

h=message-id:from:to:subject:date;

b=uqmrXv3hqd0vHoXWsqtE5fKqJqKmW3QKVxeAsuLQi4ELBtTVDU8Dqkd5qlLaJJJrSD5QGS

k9oEP4wokdxzY7o7XQrzfwPGvIhCw3tVJ+EU7Ukr70XKGSZDvzeMYfvdIRXG4DvAbJrubdN9

IQRqluRXH4h9QE5G9Y0yhScCh2luo=

Received: by 10.35.75.15 with SMTP id c15mr5258589pyl.6.1204750242251;

Wed, 05 Mar 2008 12:50:42 -0800 (PST)

Received: by 10.35.75.15 with SMTP id c15mr10486278pyl.6;

Wed, 05 Mar 2008 12:50:42 -0800 (PST)

Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

From: Mail Delivery Subsystem [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: someone mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] @thisdomain.com

Subject: Delivery Status Notification (Delay)

Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2008 12:50:42 -0800 (PST)

X-RBL-Warning: MXRATE-ALLOW: GOOD SENDER

X-RBL-Warning: FROMNOMATCH: Env sender () From:

([EMAIL PROTECTED]) mismatch.

X-Declude-Sender:  [64.233.166.182]

X-Declude-Spoolname: D07a5017c0029.smd

X-Declude-RefID: 

X-Declude-Scan: Score [-5] at 16:29:09 on 05 Mar 2008

X-Declude-Fail: MXRATE-ALLOW [-5], BGISOCWL [-1], CASA [-1], FROMNOMATCH [2]

X-Country-Chain: UNITED STATES-destination

Return-Path: 

X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Mar 2008 21:28:11.0355 (UTC)
FILETIME=[D02392B0:01C87F07]

 

 

 

-Original Message-

From: Mail Delivery Subsystem [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 3:51 PM

To: someone

Subject: Delivery Status Notification (Delay)

This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification

THIS IS A WARNING MESSAGE ONLY.

YOU DO NOT NEED TO RESEND YOUR MESSAGE.

Delivery to the following recipient has been delayed:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Message will be retried for 4 more day(s)

Technical details of temporary failure: 

DISABLED_USER: Account temporarily disabled

- Message header follows -

Received: by 10.35.84.9 with SMTP id m9mr18615493pyl.6.1204468218506;

Sun, 02 Mar 2008 06:30:18 -0800 (PST)

Return-Path: someone mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] @thisdomain.com

Received: from e58065.upc-e.chello.nl (e58065.upc-e.chello.nl

[213.93.58.65])

by mx.google.com with SMTP id

f60si40752796pyh.14.2008.03.02.06.30.14;

Sun, 02 Mar 2008 06:30:18 -0800 (PST)

Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 213.93.58.65 is neither permitted nor
denied by best guess record for domain of someone
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] @thisdomain.com) client-ip=213.93.58.65;

Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com:

213.93.58.65 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain
of [EMAIL PROTECTED])  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 06:30:18 -0800 (PST)

X-Originating-IP: [95.1.80.490]

X-Originating-Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Received: (qmail 13690 by uid 349); Sun, 2 Mar 2008 03:30:54 +0100

Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: RE: SALE 70% OFF

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

MIME-Version: 1.0

Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1

Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit



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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] New PDF worm?

2007-07-02 Thread Jim Comerford
Could someone explain further how this filter works and what it is doing...
it is adding weight to all PDF's or is this searhcing for some common
element present in the PDF Spams? 
 
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David
Barker
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 1:35 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] New PDF worm?



Create a filter eg FILTER-PDF.txt and use the following lines. Adjust your
weights accordingly. Also ensure you are running Declude 4.3.46

 

BODY 3  PCRE
(JVBERi0xLjMgCjEgMCBvYmoKPDwKPj4KZW5kb2JqCjIgMCBvYmo)

BODY 5  PCRE (-+[0-9]+\r\n(?:[a-zA-Z\-]+:
[^\r]+\r\n)+(?:\r\n){1,}-+[0-9]+\r\n(?:[a-zA-Z\-]+:
[^\r]+\r\n)*Content-Type: application/pdf;)

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Katie
LaSalle-Lowery
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 1:28 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] New PDF worm?

 

We've been suffering .pdf spam getting through the filter.  What settings
are you using that's identifying these as spam?

We're seeing an overall increase in spam getting through the filter the last
few weeks...

 

Thanks, 

Katie

 

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
SJ.Stanaitis
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 9:17 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] New PDF worm?

I'm getting gobs of PDF's snagged in my antispam filter, they're not
triggering any AV yet, anyone else seeing this?

 

SJ.Stanaitis - Network Administrator

Decorative Product Source, Inc.


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Per user config and performance

2007-05-16 Thread Jim Comerford
I don't have specific answers for you, but when I implemented per-domain
setup, I inquired with Linda at Declude Tech Support and she was very
helpful and timely in assisting in the setup.  There are ways to default
domains (and I assume users) to use a base set of settings if you dont need
a custom setup for each.  My experience with Declude tech support has been
excellent - so why not try it since the answer is not coming out here
quickly.
 
-Jim

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ing.
Andrés E. Gallo
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 9:27 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Per user config and performance



Sorry for re-posting but…from Thursday to Monday, no messages of the list.

If any, please re-answer.

Thanks

Andres.-

/***/

 

Hi List

 I wonder if some have experience by configuring the per user and per domain
settings.

I mean, having 5000 users per domain, each user by domain will choose if
Declude Antispam or not.

So, should be a file ( for all users same configuration, _not_ customized
for each one ) like user.junkmail, user1.junkmail, user6.junkmail and so on
under each domain dir.

How this will impact performance ? Is there a limit there ?

Any experience ? or any ‘easy’ way to do it ?

 

Regards

 

 

Andres-.

 


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[Declude.JunkMail] Weighting based on some Imail Tests...?

2006-11-08 Thread Jim Comerford
I'm relatively new to Declude, but have been using Imail and many of its
test for quite a while.

I'm curious if it is possible to use some of imail's antispam tests
(specifically Baysean filter, and url-blacklist) to add weight to declude
tests.  We have had great results with these two tests and if they were in
the weighting systen I think it would help.  I'm not sure which part of
imail's tests get run before control is passed to declude, but it seems if
these are, declude shouldbe able to use them in the weighting system...

Is anyone doing anything like this?  Or and I off base and duplicating
something that declude already offers...?





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