Re: [Declude.JunkMail] IMail Server Vulnerabilities...
Huh? What? Not useful? IPSwitch is charging thousands of dollars for that very feature on steroids .. G Jonathan Darin Cox wrote: Was the webmail vulnerability only with web calendaring? We might be able to get away with turning it off. It hasn't been a very useful product for our customers, so I doubt many of them are using it. I was concerned that there might be vulnerabilities in the main webmail product... Darin. - Original Message - From: Kevin Bilbee [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 5:26 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] IMail Server Vulnerabilities... Or turn off IMAP and web calendaring Kevin Bilbee -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Darin Cox Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 12:58 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] IMail Server Vulnerabilities... Thanks for the FYI, Mike. So, question is... will Ipswitch create hotfixes or workarounds for versions before 8.2? Or is everyone forced to upgrade to 8.2? Darin. - Original Message - From: Michael L. Hardrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 3:49 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] IMail Server Vulnerabilities... Ipswitch IMail Server Multiple Unspecified Vulnerabilities http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/13727?ref=rss Just a FYI... --Mike --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail Features (or lack thereof?)
I spoke to sales today. Sounds like December. They may come out with an
earlier release with the global filters, but no promises on that.
They're holding out for 3.0. We're going to have to leave most of our
imail-customer servers on imail for now, I guess. The sales and techs
that I spoke to were astonished that other mail servers had alias to
executable support. This scares me a little - I can't think of any other
mail server that DOESN'T offer this, either via feature (most win32
servers) or just piping it ('nix). Concerns me a little that they may be
out of touch on even the most basic things.. :\
Jonathan
Kevin Bilbee wrote:
Best thing to do is call SmarterMail Sales. They are knowledgable on the
product and the features slated for the 3.0 release but definitly call htem
and let them know you would like to see Program Aliases.
Kevin Bilbee
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Rats. I was hoping I was totally off-base, and all these features were
actually hidden in the program or configs somewhere. Not really sure how
thrilled I am about moving our customers' servers over without some of
these items.
Jonathan
Panda Consulting S.A. Luis Alberto Arango wrote:
I totally agree.
Here is a link with some of the features missing
http://forums.smartertools.com/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=8767
However its webmail is very nice. I hope we have that in IMAIL.
Luis Arango
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Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail Features (or lack thereof?)
So, we've been looking quite a bit at SmarterMail for the past few
months ... everyone in here seems to rant and rave about it, wishing
they had switched sooner. However, when I really dig into it, it seems
like it's missing a lot of common functionality. Here's a couple
examples that I confirmed with their tech support:
- There's no way to have an alias launch an EXE (or do anything but go
to another email address)
- There's no global filters, and no way to create filters automatically
with web services. Editing the XML directly would require a service
restart. So it'd need to be entirely manual, or find a way to hook their
DLLs I guess.
- No way to change the connection banner for IMAP (or smtp or pop3)
- No way to create an address or alias that would allow a user to
unsubscribe the mailing list by just sending a message there, it *needs*
to have unsubscribe in the subject. I assume this could somehow be
rigged with some title-rewriting content filter .. ick.
I've seen a few other things that concern me .. some of this stuff is on
the list, or has been put on the list for the next release, but they're
shooting for December. So, I guess we should realistically assume 2006.
Any thoughts?
Jonathan
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[Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail Features (or lack thereof?)
So, we've been looking quite a bit at SmarterMail for the past few months ... everyone in here seems to rant and rave about it, wishing they had switched sooner. However, when I really dig into it, it seems like it's missing a lot of common functionality. Here's a couple examples that I confirmed with their tech support: - There's no way to have an alias launch an EXE (or do anything but go to another email address) - There's no global filters, and no way to create filters automatically with web services. Editing the XML directly would require a service restart. So it'd need to be entirely manual, or find a way to hook their DLLs I guess. - No way to change the connection banner for IMAP (or smtp or pop3) - No way to create an address or alias that would allow a user to unsubscribe the mailing list by just sending a message there, it *needs* to have unsubscribe in the subject. I assume this could somehow be rigged with some title-rewriting content filter .. ick. I've seen a few other things that concern me .. some of this stuff is on the list, or has been put on the list for the next release, but they're shooting for December. So, I guess we should realistically assume 2006. Any thoughts? Jonathan --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail Features (or lack thereof?)
Rats. I was hoping I was totally off-base, and all these features were actually hidden in the program or configs somewhere. Not really sure how thrilled I am about moving our customers' servers over without some of these items. Jonathan Panda Consulting S.A. Luis Alberto Arango wrote: I totally agree. Here is a link with some of the features missing http://forums.smartertools.com/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=8767 However its webmail is very nice. I hope we have that in IMAIL. Luis Arango -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Sent: Jueves, 19 de Mayo de 2005 01:09 p.m. To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail Features (or lack thereof?) So, we've been looking quite a bit at SmarterMail for the past few months ... everyone in here seems to rant and rave about it, wishing they had switched sooner. However, when I really dig into it, it seems like it's missing a lot of common functionality. Here's a couple examples that I confirmed with their tech support: - There's no way to have an alias launch an EXE (or do anything but go to another email address) - There's no global filters, and no way to create filters automatically with web services. Editing the XML directly would require a service restart. So it'd need to be entirely manual, or find a way to hook their DLLs I guess. - No way to change the connection banner for IMAP (or smtp or pop3) - No way to create an address or alias that would allow a user to unsubscribe the mailing list by just sending a message there, it *needs* to have unsubscribe in the subject. I assume this could somehow be rigged with some title-rewriting content filter .. ick. I've seen a few other things that concern me .. some of this stuff is on the list, or has been put on the list for the next release, but they're shooting for December. So, I guess we should realistically assume 2006. Any thoughts? Jonathan --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. __ [Email scanned for viruses by Panda Consulting -www.pandacons.com-] [Email escaneado contra virus por Panda Consulting -www.pandacons.com-] __ [Email scanned for viruses by Panda Consulting -www.pandacons.com-] [Email escaneado contra virus por Panda Consulting -www.pandacons.com-] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] How to stop second virus scan when first captures the virus.
And my name .. but my name is probably on there several places over the past several years. It always baffles me why this isn't already built-in - Declude spent so much time performance tweaking etc, then they leave the most cpu-intensive stuff wide open. It's not like it evaluates the results from all the scanners, and makes a decision on whether or not it's a virus or a false-positive. Back in the early days, I had a hunch they would come out with a Pro version, and stuff like this would be in there .. but then they did come out with a Pro, and still no dice. *confused* Jonathan John Tolmachoff (Lists) wrote: Add my name to the list of users asking for this. John T eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 5:38 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] How to stop second virus scan when first captures the virus. David, Unfortuantly, this is not a feature. It is one that we have been asking for as well. If we ever get this feature I know for one thing I am going to move F-Prot to my first scanner and enable this. Mcafee while a great scanner it is very CPU intensive. Darrell Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude And Imail. IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers. David writes: Hey all, Any help on this would be greatly appreciated. WE are currently running 2 antivirus filters and with the huge surge of viruses the last couple days its come to my attention that I could spare a significant amount of CPU if I could prevent my second antivirus from running if my first AV catches the email. We are using f-prot and mcafee. Thanks again -David --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Outbound Scanning
I think you're looking for virus_domains.txt - it has inbound only, outbound only, both, etc options. Jonathan Evans Martin wrote: So there is no way to turn off outbound scanning? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Bilbee Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 4:41 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Outbound Scanning Then they need to auth to the server. You need 8.x to be able to have declude know if the user has authed just set WHITELIST AUTH in yor global.cfg Kevin Bilbee -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Evans Martin Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 2:24 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Outbound Scanning I am trying to disable outbound scanning of my domains. I commented everything out in the slightly modified from default global.cfg that came after the outbound section using a # but it still seems to be scanning outbound. I am using per domain configs but I don't see where Declude is being instructed to scan outbound. Many of my users are complaining because their mail goes out tagged as spam. Help! Thanks, Evans Martin --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.2 / smartermail
Yeah, I haven't played with smartermail in much depth, but I assumed a global filter could be created based on header, then have Declude mark up the headers accordingly.. Jonathan David Franco-Rocha [ Declude ] wrote: Declude does not currently plug directly into SmarterMail's spam tools. They are completely separate. The MAILBOX directive used by Declude with IMail, whereby an email is moved to a specific user folder, is not available on the SmarterMail platform. When I have discussed this with SmarterMail, they have said that the recipient can move it himself to a particular folder on the basis of headers added to the message by Declude. David Franco-Rocha - Original Message - From: Jonathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 10:57 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.2 / smartermail Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Sidenote, I assume SmarterMail can act as a domain filtering gateway with Declude, right? Pretty sure I saw some marketing spam saying it could .. Yes, that is absolutly correct - Declude will work on Smartermail. So I was just playing with the SM web interface -- does Declude plug directly into SM's spam tools? If so, that looks pretty slick compared to hacked up scripts shuffling stuff into the right folders .. :) Darrell --- Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude And Imail. IMail Queue Monitoring, Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.2 / smartermail
Dave Doherty wrote: Not the last time I asked for it. They acted like they could not fathom why we would ever need it, and said they weren't even working on it. So I'm still on Imail. -Dave Doherty Skywaves, Inc. - Original Message - From: Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 7:49 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.2 / smartermail Does Smartermail have any features built in for gateway based systems - i.e. load a list of accounts that are valid that you gateway for envelope rejection? Darrell --- Comprehensive reporting for Declude Junkmail and Virus - DLAnalyzer - http://www.invariantsystems.com. - Original Message - From: Michael Jaworski [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 7:17 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.2 / smartermail The price for SM from Declude was great. Even better yet is SmarterMail, the product. It works. Their able to get things tuned up or added a lot quicker like Declude. I am seeing a pattern. I like it when a software company is lean and mean. I would rather feed a lean cat than a fat cat. First it was WebTrends, then Lyris and now Ipswitch. Still trying to figure out how MS fits in this picture. Fat cat with a big stick?? One vote for SmarterMail. Mike PS Don't miss the fact their backup servers come with the deal at no charge. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Grosshandler Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 3:23 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.2 / smartermail Ok -- time for the question again. Thumbs up or down on the declude / smartermail integration? Comments appreciated. Rob --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. hmm .. .I think I'm confused. You're saying Imail has a way to load user accounts for gateway systems? All I've ever seen is the host file hack for adding gateway domains, but I've never seen a way to load user accounts. Am I missing something? Sidenote, I assume SmarterMail can act as a domain filtering gateway with Declude, right? Pretty sure I saw some marketing spam saying it could .. Jonathan --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.2 / smartermail
Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Sidenote, I assume SmarterMail can act as a domain filtering gateway with Declude, right? Pretty sure I saw some marketing spam saying it could .. Yes, that is absolutly correct - Declude will work on Smartermail. So I was just playing with the SM web interface -- does Declude plug directly into SM's spam tools? If so, that looks pretty slick compared to hacked up scripts shuffling stuff into the right folders .. :) Darrell --- Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude And Imail. IMail Queue Monitoring, Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.2 / smartermail
Seems like it'd be trivial to write, hooking their svcUserAdmin.asmx and svcDomainAliasAdmin.asmx (GetAliases and GetUsers). Yeah, it'd be nice if they do it natively, but it looks like a 1 hour project to do it manually. Guess I wouldn't be too worked up about that. Jonathan Dave Doherty wrote: You are right. IMail has no such feature, either. With Imail, I currently take the user data right from the registry using the .NET registry classes, reformat it, and send it on to my gateway. Of course, if you use an external database with Imail you can run queries against that. It just seems so logical that since SM (a) uses XML and (b) provides a gateway function, that they would provide a communication channel between the mailbox and the gateway to allow for rejection of bad addresses at the gateway. It would be so easy, and so valuable to do. Anyway, lacking that, and also missing some of the Declude/Imail features, I opted to wait to see if they do better with version 3. I put in the feature request, so maybe they are listening... Having said all that, the product looks very nice, and I agree with all that the web interface is far smarter looking than Imail's. -d hmm .. .I think I'm confused. You're saying Imail has a way to load user accounts for gateway systems? All I've ever seen is the host file hack for adding gateway domains, but I've never seen a way to load user accounts. Am I missing something? Sidenote, I assume SmarterMail can act as a domain filtering gateway with Declude, right? Pretty sure I saw some marketing spam saying it could .. Jonathan --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.2 / smartermail
No prob - being a dev myself, I tend to try to find the most complex ways to do things. ;) Jonathan Dave Doherty wrote: Hi Jonathan- Thanks for pointing that out. I'm really surprised their tech support folks didn't recommend it. -d - Original Message - From: Jonathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 11:09 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.2 / smartermail Seems like it'd be trivial to write, hooking their svcUserAdmin.asmx and svcDomainAliasAdmin.asmx (GetAliases and GetUsers). Yeah, it'd be nice if they do it natively, but it looks like a 1 hour project to do it manually. Guess I wouldn't be too worked up about that. Jonathan Dave Doherty wrote: You are right. IMail has no such feature, either. With Imail, I currently take the user data right from the registry using the .NET registry classes, reformat it, and send it on to my gateway. Of course, if you use an external database with Imail you can run queries against that. It just seems so logical that since SM (a) uses XML and (b) provides a gateway function, that they would provide a communication channel between the mailbox and the gateway to allow for rejection of bad addresses at the gateway. It would be so easy, and so valuable to do. Anyway, lacking that, and also missing some of the Declude/Imail features, I opted to wait to see if they do better with version 3. I put in the feature request, so maybe they are listening... Having said all that, the product looks very nice, and I agree with all that the web interface is far smarter looking than Imail's. -d hmm .. .I think I'm confused. You're saying Imail has a way to load user accounts for gateway systems? All I've ever seen is the host file hack for adding gateway domains, but I've never seen a way to load user accounts. Am I missing something? Sidenote, I assume SmarterMail can act as a domain filtering gateway with Declude, right? Pretty sure I saw some marketing spam saying it could .. Jonathan --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.2 / smartermail
Bummer... seems like they could make it work hand in hand, Declude and SM seem to be all buddy buddy .. that'd make a pretty powerful tool. Jonathan Kevin Bilbee wrote: No declude does not pluginto SM's spam filtering. Delcude works pretymuch just like it does on Imail. Kevin Bilbee -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 7:57 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.2 / smartermail Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Sidenote, I assume SmarterMail can act as a domain filtering gateway with Declude, right? Pretty sure I saw some marketing spam saying it could .. Yes, that is absolutly correct - Declude will work on Smartermail. So I was just playing with the SM web interface -- does Declude plug directly into SM's spam tools? If so, that looks pretty slick compared to hacked up scripts shuffling stuff into the right folders .. :) Darrell --- Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude And Imail. IMail Queue Monitoring, Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.2 / smartermail
Yup, I've seen that in your sig for years .. just never had a use for it. :) Jonathan Sanford Whiteman wrote: No it does not have this feature built in but Sandy wrote some nifty scripts that make this task a bit easier. . . . see my sig for details. --Sandy Sanford Whiteman, Chief Technologist Broadleaf Systems, a division of Cypress Integrated Systems, Inc. e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SpamAssassin plugs into Declude! http://www.imprimia.com/products/software/freeutils/SPAMC32/download/release/ Defuse Dictionary Attacks: Turn Exchange or IMail mailboxes into IMail Aliases! http://www.imprimia.com/products/software/freeutils/exchange2aliases/download/release/ http://www.imprimia.com/products/software/freeutils/ldap2aliases/download/release/ --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Problem with subject line in version 2.0
Hanging on the new licensing routines? g This is why I never run stuff in production till it's old and tested. Jonathan At 11:30 PM 2/1/2005, you wrote: I had the same problem today while installing v2.0. All Declude functions stopped. I called them and went back to the old version and everything works perfect, just like before. I'm glad to see it wasn't just me. Jeff Kratka -- Original Message -- From: John Tolmachoff \(Lists\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 17:58:06 -0800 The latest version does not work at all, nothing, zilch, zippo. This is a disgrace. Downloaded and copied into the imail directory and ran declude -diag and all I got was the declude version line and then a line saying Imail configuration then several seconds and then back to a prompt. No output what so ever. Nothing in the logs at all. FIX THIS NOW! John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 10:21 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Problem with subject line in version 2.0 The fix is in the current 2.0 download from the web site. Barry Simpson www.declude.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff (Lists) Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 11:33 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Problem with subject line in version 2.0 And the fix will be when and in what form? John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 4:31 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Problem with subject line in version 2.0 There appears to be a problem in version 2.0 where Declude is seeing the first character after the word subject as the start of the subject line. The first character is a colon and followed by a space and then the actual subject line. You are correct. I'm surprised this didn't get caught during the beta. -Scott --- Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailservers since 2000. Declude Virus: Ultra reliable virus detection and the leader in mailserver vulnerability detection. Find out what you've been missing: Ask for a free 30-day evaluation. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. -- ** TymeWyse Internet P.O.Box 84 - 110 Ecklund St., Canyonville, OR 97417 tel/fax: (541) 839-6027 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** -- --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Sniffer vs. SURBL
I was just playing with this today - I'm not sure I'd put much faith in surbl.org. The first two messages I saw it tag in my own inbox, were very legitimate. In fact, one of them was from Wells Fargo (*really* from Wells Fargo, sent from Wells Fargo's own mail servers). I find this ironic, since one of their new features, is whitelisting publicly traded companies. :) Jonathan At 12:30 AM 1/9/2005, you wrote: Hi, Today I finally took the time (I didn't have) and ran both Sniffer and SURBL Tests (using http://www.invariantsystems.com/invURIBL/). Result: 1,860 tagged by invURIBL only - gain over Sniffer = 21% 8,926 tagged by BOTH invURIBL AND Sniffer 962 tagged by Sniffer only - gain over invURIBL = 11% In other words: If I ran ONLY Sniffer, I would have missed 21% of additional messages that were detected by checking against SURBL. If I tested SURBL only, I would have missed 11% of messages (that only Sniffer found) I have configured Declude, so that the two tests are complimentary (no extra weight BOTH tests vs. ONE test fails.) My conclusion: Both Sniffer and invURIBL are worth their money... PS: here the raw numbers: DLAnalyzer(4.0.5 - 12/21/2004) Report Generated At 1/9/2005 12:48:14 AM For Argos.net Breakdown Of Messages That Failed: INV-URIBL Messages That Matched: 10,786 TEST # FAILED Percentage IPNOTINMX..10,372...96.16% SNIFFER.8,926...82.76% NOLEGITCONTENT..8,673...80.41% SPAMCOP.4,983...46.20% SORBS...4,521...41.92% XBL-DYNA4,470...41.44% Breakdown Of Messages That Failed: SNIFFER Messages That Matched: 9,888 TEST # FAILED Percentage IPNOTINMX...9,611...97.20% INV-URIBL...8,926...90.27% NOLEGITCONTENT..8,788...88.88% SPAMCOP.5,208...52.67% XBL-DYNA4,672...47.25% SORBS...4,664...47.17% Best Regards Andy Schmidt Phone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business) Fax: +1 201 934-9206
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Utility
grep? :) Jonathan At 09:45 PM 1/4/2005, you wrote: Is there a utility that you can type the message ID and get back the reasons a test failed tests..instead of going into the logs and pulling it out.. Richard Farris Ethixs Online 1.270.247. Office 1.800.548.3877 Tech Support Crossroads to a Cleaner Internet --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Yahoo Bulk Mail
Thanks, but I doubt that's the issue. They're on one of our IP blocks, and have had that IP for .. I dunno .. several years. Surely somewhere in Yahoo! there's a department where you can address these issues. I haven't been able to find out where, though. Jonathan At 11:21 AM 6/8/2004, you wrote: Hi Jonathan- I have a remote employee who had the same problem when he got a fixed IP address from his access provider. Apparently, the address had been used by a spammer. He could not get anyone at Yahoo to do anything about it. The only solution was for him to get a different IP address. -Dave Doherty Skywaves, Inc. - Original Message - From: Jonathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 07, 2004 12:33 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Yahoo Bulk Mail A bit OT, but I'm guessing you guys have dealt with this. We have a very legitimate customer, that seems to have found their way into Yahoo's Bulk Mail filter. I'd personally vouch for this user - I know they've never done any spamming (even indirectly or unknowingly). Does anyone know the best way to get out of Yahoo's filters? Thanks in advance, Jonathan --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
[Declude.JunkMail] Yahoo Bulk Mail
A bit OT, but I'm guessing you guys have dealt with this. We have a very legitimate customer, that seems to have found their way into Yahoo's Bulk Mail filter. I'd personally vouch for this user - I know they've never done any spamming (even indirectly or unknowingly). Does anyone know the best way to get out of Yahoo's filters? Thanks in advance, Jonathan --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Google Gmail.com
As much as I believe FoxFriends morning show tells no lies .. I'd rather verify it with a reputable source: - Google does in fact own Gmail.com - It sits on the Google network - gmail.google.com == gmail.com - and www.Gmail.com says 1000 MB. I'd say that makes it official. Jonathan At 03:06 PM 4/1/2004, you wrote: Saw this on FoxFriends this morning...is the real thing. Samantha -Original Message- From: Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 3:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Google Gmail.com Anyone think this is a hoax? They are offering 1 gig of free email space. That is a lot! --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT? Best Plattform?
I don't think that makes it more secure, I think that means the admin is allowed to be more lazy. With regards to using 2k3 vs 2k as a mail server, I don't really thing security is a huge concern. You should be locking down ntfs on either platform, you shouldnt need any services except the bare necessities, etc. You'll never have local users, nor should you ever use the console for anything, so term service/etc security is useless, as is IE security, etc. The stack itself is, of course, more robust in some respects, but you're probably filtering for common attacks upstream anyway. Nutsehell, I'd say there are some performance benefits on 2k3, especially on larger hardware .. but overall, your install *should* be so tweaked, that it really doesn't matter. Jonathan At 02:56 PM 2/4/2004, you wrote: 2003. It's MUCH more secure than 2000 because many services are not enabled by default which is the case in 2000. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 12:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT? Best Plattform? 2000. The newer version is hardly mature, and it appears that just like XP made the 2000 core unstable, 2003 also repeats many of the same mistakes. 2003 is of course fancier, but the apps you are looking to use make little use of what the newer version might provide. Matt Hirthe, Alexander wrote: Hello, what is the better Plattform for Imail / Declude? Windows 2000 oder Windows 2003? Just Imail Declude, Spamcheck, AVG, F-Prot. Alex --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. -- = MailPure custom filters for Declude JunkMail Pro. http://www.mailpure.com/software/ = --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] New CMDSPACE test in latest interim release
Imail web stuff never gets scanned anyway, does it? I thought it hit imail1.exe directly .. Jonathan At 06:44 AM 1/7/2004, you wrote: on 1/7/04 6:35 AM, Matthew Bramble wrote: BADHEADERS will FP a whole lot more, Over 95% of the outgoing messages from our subscribers are failing the CMDSPACE test (75+ messages in about 50 minutes of use). The only pattern I can see is messages from IMail web are not failing the test. Greg --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] New CMDSPACE test in latest interim release
Can't imagine why you'd need to restart .. it hooks the EXE each time it spawns an smtp thread, so the next message after the EXE is in place, should use the new exe. Jonathan At 07:20 PM 1/6/2004, you wrote: It has been a while since I upgrade my versionare there any special step to upgrading or can I simply replace the .exe file and restart Imail SMTP and POP services? thanks in advance gb At 07:42 PM 1/6/2004 -0500, you wrote: Woops on the Delude thing Sorry, it should be: http://www.declude.com/interim -Scott --- Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailservers. Declude Virus: Catches known viruses and is the leader in mailserver vulnerability detection. Find out what you've been missing: Ask about our free 30-day evaluation. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. Glenn Brooks WebWize, Inc. 713-688-4382 http://www.webwize.com --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003
That's kind of conflicting, isnt it? Saying it's the way to go, but then it has weird, unidentifiable problems with large volumes of mail. :) I'm not sure how you define large volumes, the Imail server in question will move over 2Mbps sustained of mail at some points of the day. That's quite a bit, considering it's mostly text. Is there a compelling reason to go with win2k3? Jonathan At 12:12 PM 12/19/2003, you wrote: For the majority, W2K3 is the way to go if you are able to. Ipswitch does support running Imail on W2K3. There are some possible issues. 1. Running MS DSN service on W2K3 WITH Imail Anti-Spam DNS tests is a problem. 2. Some issues have been reported on the Imail list when the server processes a high volume of messages per day. Nothing seems to be conclusive as far as I know to date, and from the posts, I have not seen a definite pattern. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 10:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003 So I haven't heard anything else back on this .. are you guys all staying away from Windows 2003 and Imail? I'm having a hard time trying to justify the risk of running new servers on 2k3 when 2k works just fine .. but then again, 2k3 seems more stable over time but not if Imail doesn't support it well yet. g Thoughts? Jonathan At 05:04 PM 12/4/2003, you wrote: The issues seem to appear at high volumes. Besides, I am more than willing to use those licenses for you. ;) John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 2:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003 So, what's the scoop with current Imail 8, declude, sniffer, etc on Windows 2003 Server? We're thinking about moving it to some new iron internally, and Ive got some 2k3 licenses just burning a hole in my pocket. :) I heard some stability issues, saw some imail patches/etc .. things stable (and *robust*) now? Relatively high volumes of email .. Jonathan --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003
So I haven't heard anything else back on this .. are you guys all staying away from Windows 2003 and Imail? I'm having a hard time trying to justify the risk of running new servers on 2k3 when 2k works just fine .. but then again, 2k3 seems more stable over time but not if Imail doesn't support it well yet. g Thoughts? Jonathan At 05:04 PM 12/4/2003, you wrote: The issues seem to appear at high volumes. Besides, I am more than willing to use those licenses for you. ;) John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 2:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003 So, what's the scoop with current Imail 8, declude, sniffer, etc on Windows 2003 Server? We're thinking about moving it to some new iron internally, and Ive got some 2k3 licenses just burning a hole in my pocket. :) I heard some stability issues, saw some imail patches/etc .. things stable (and *robust*) now? Relatively high volumes of email .. Jonathan --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
[Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003
So, what's the scoop with current Imail 8, declude, sniffer, etc on Windows 2003 Server? We're thinking about moving it to some new iron internally, and Ive got some 2k3 licenses just burning a hole in my pocket. :) I heard some stability issues, saw some imail patches/etc .. things stable (and *robust*) now? Relatively high volumes of email .. Jonathan --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Junkmail Tests and Configs
I'm sorry, when I said the help files .. I meant the online manual. Those are the files I used as a reference. Jonathan At 08:13 PM 11/11/2003, you wrote: In an effort to clean up our junkmail configs, and only use valid tests, we cleaned out our previous tests (old services that were dead etc) and replaced them with the ones currently in the declude help files. Since then, we've been seeing complaints of increased spam/etc. Does anyone have some good configs they'd be willing to share? Good RBLs to use/etc. I'd really appreciate it, it's gettin pretty bad here. Don't go by the help files -- go by the default config files at http://www.declude.com/junkmail/manual.htm . They have the tests that we currently recommend, which should do a very good (not perfect, though) job of catching spam. -Scott --- Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailservers. Declude Virus: Catches known viruses and is the leader in mailserver vulnerability detection. Find out what you've been missing: Ask about our free 30-day evaluation. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Domain Folders for Custom $default$ file
At 06:37 AM 11/7/2003, you wrote: I'm sure I'm missing something, but that doesn't seem to be working. In my D:\Imail\Declude\$default$.junkmail, I have: REDIRECT @domain.com d:\Imail\Declude\templates\group1.cfg and, in that group1.cfg file, I have copied the file that used to work in: d:\imail\declude\domain.com. I removed the domain.com folder, so that the REDIRECT statement would work. Any suggestions on what I'm overlooking? Are you running v1.75 or later? Yes, I'm running current beta. Is domain.com a gateway domain (in which case the global.cfg file would be used)? I see. So is it safe to put *all* the redirects in global.cfg? Jonathan --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Domain Folders for Custom $default$ file
I don't understand - I thought you said if it was a gateway domain (presuming that means it doesn't actually have a host entry in imail, just that imail is acting as a relay for it), to put the REDIRECT in global.cfg. But now you're saying it doesn't look there for REDIRECT? Jonathan At 11:42 AM 11/7/2003, you wrote: I see. So is it safe to put *all* the redirects in global.cfg? No. Declude JunkMail only looks at the \IMail\Declude\$default$.JunkMail file or the per-user/per-domain file. It does not look at the global.cfg file currently for the REDIRECT command. -Scott --- Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailservers. Declude Virus: Catches known viruses and is the leader in mailserver vulnerability detection. Find out what you've been missing: Ask about our free 30-day evaluation. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Domain Folders for Custom $default$ file
I'm sure I'm missing something, but that doesn't seem to be working. In my D:\Imail\Declude\$default$.junkmail, I have: REDIRECT @domain.com d:\Imail\Declude\templates\group1.cfg and, in that group1.cfg file, I have copied the file that used to work in: d:\imail\declude\domain.com. I removed the domain.com folder, so that the REDIRECT statement would work. Any suggestions on what I'm overlooking? At 01:26 PM 10/31/2003, you wrote: hmm.. I was under the impression that was per-user. So I would stick these in the root $default$? : REDIRECT domain.com c:\blah\template-1.cfg REDIRECT domain2.com c:\blah\template-1.cfg It should actually be: REDIRECT @domain.com c:\blah\template-1.cfg REDIRECT @domain2.com c:\blah\template-1.cfg If those lines are in the \IMail\Declude\$default$.JunkMail file, E-mail to @domain.com and @domain2.com will use the c:\blah\template-1.cfg file (unless there are per-domain or per-user config files, which would take priority -- so you should remove the existing per-domain config files). -Scott --- Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailservers. Declude Virus: Catches known viruses and is the leader in mailserver vulnerability detection. Find out what you've been missing: Ask about our free 30-day evaluation. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
[Declude.JunkMail] Auto White Listing
I'm sure this has been asked before, but I didn't see anything about it in the archives: With the auto whitelist feature, the way I understand it, any address in any user's address book will be whitelisted for *that* user, right? So, what if the email is sent to an alias, which resolves to that user. Is the spam blocked when it comes into the alias? or does it see that it ultimately hits that user, and allow it? Thanks, Jonathan --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Auto White Listing
At 01:15 PM 9/27/2003, you wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of R. Scott Perry Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2003 5:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Auto White Listing With the auto whitelist feature, the way I understand it, any address in any user's address book will be whitelisted for *that* user, right? Correct. Not completly correct. It will whitelist the entire email. So if the email was sent to 3 people on the server and one has it whitelisted, it would whitelist the email for all recipients of the email. Scott, you always forget to mention that. If this is the case, then the second part of Scott's explanation doesn't make sense. Why didn't he just say, Yes, once it's in someone's address book, then it's whitelisted for everyone on all the domains on that server. Also, this seems like a pretty good way to circumvent spam filters. Sign up to a service, get on their web mail, add to the address book, and spam away. I spose that's why you have the option of disabling it. Comments? So, what if the email is sent to an alias, which resolves to that user. Is the spam blocked when it comes into the alias? or does it see that it ultimately hits that user, and allow it? As with the per-user settings, the address that the alias resolves to will be used. -Scott --- Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailservers. Declude Virus: Catches known viruses and is the leader in mailserver vulnerability detection. Find out what you've been missing: Ask about our free 30-day evaluation. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] VeriSteal is stealing traffic from your domain.
The MS example I saw was to use a domain that ended .local if you did not want to use a real/public domain. This seems to work, lets hope that .local never becomes a real tld. Sincerely, Jonathan Miller Internet Service Department ACCS.net Advanced Computer Communication Systems, Inc. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Bramble Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 2:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] VeriSteal is stealing traffic from your domain. This AD server is over 2 years old. Support was very weak back then. It was set up as a trial of AD so I could see if there was any benefit to using it on my production server. I decided that is was not useful and too many problems existed. I do see the reasoning in either owning the domain or using a fake TLD. Eventually the fake TLDs though could come back and haunt users if they are ever allowed to be registered for Internet use. I believe that will happen some day. Matt Joshua Levitsky wrote: On Sep 22, 2003, at 1:40 PM, Matthew Bramble wrote: Who says that I have to register the domain that Active Directory is using? My Active Directory name isn't intended to be used on the Internet. In most installations, you look to your own Active Directory server first for the lookups, so if it exists on the Internet it won't interfeer...until now. In my MCSE class the Microsoft printed material said to use .local if you didn't have an internet domain. I always do it that way when the company I do consulting for doesn't have a domain or if they have a domain and the mail / web is at a hosting company. If the domain isn't totally in-house then I use .local -Josh
