[Declude.JunkMail] COPYTO Oddity

2007-12-04 Thread Scott Fisher
I've change the IP number of my server and I've noticed this oddity.
 
Email's that score between 100 and 199, I send a copy to a spam mailbox to
scan:

WEIGHT100COPY COPYTO  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
After my IP address change, the copyto message is being scanned again by
Declude.
I would have thought the message shouldn't be scanned again by Declude.
 
Any ideas?
 
Here are some headers:
 
Extra received header:
Received: from imail.Farmprogress.com [192.168.191.6] by
imail.Farmprogress.com with ESMTP
  (SMTPD-9.22) id A7BD01FC; Tue, 04 Dec 2007 15:33:49 -0600
Received: from mx1.farmprogress.com [192.168.191.14] by
imail.Farmprogress.com with ESMTP
  (SMTPD-9.22) id A7A70330; Tue, 04 Dec 2007 15:33:27 -0600
Received: from forever21.com [12.129.230.91]
 by mx1.farmprogress.com (Alligate(TM) SMTP Gateway v3.7.10.21)
 with ESMPT id [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 04 Dec 2007 15:33:23 -0600
X-VirtualServerGroup: Default
X-Destination-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-MailingID: 0::0::0::030884
X-SMFBL: YXNjaGFyZmVuQGZhcm1wcm9ncmVzcy5jb20=
X-Mailer: StrongMail Enterprise 3.2.1(3.00.215)
Received: from mail04
 by forever21.com (StrongMail Enterprise 3.2.1(3.00.215)); Tue, 04 Dec 2007
13:33:38 -0800
X-SMHeaderMap: mid=X-MailingID
DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1;
 c=nofws;
 s=onlinepromo;
 d=forever21.com;
 q=dns;
 
b=ncw9REjUL4WsRgooMtB40+CfmDvpeiUhlzJIn3WP9jYCBAUgkOs+Acw70VZSuGXfywj5yvy1p9
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Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
return-path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mime-version: 1.0
from: Twelvebytwelve [EMAIL PROTECTED]
to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
date: 4 Dec 2007 13:34:01 -0800
Subject: [Possible SPAM]Button Up!! Coats With A French Accent
content-type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
X-MXRate-Prob: -1
X-MXRate-Country: US
X-MXRate-Action: ALLOW
X-Alligate-ReceivingIP: [192.168.191.14]
X-Alligate-Grey: Skipped
X-Alligate-REVDNS: mx11.forever21.com
X-Alligate-Spam: NOSUBD;
X-Alligate-ID: 30642
X-RBL-Warning: MXRATE-WHITE-LAST: GOOD SENDER
X-RBL-Warning: IPNOTINMX: 
X-RBL-Warning: MPPT-SIZE-XS: Message failed MPPT-SIZE-XS: 4
X-RBL-Warning: MPPT-MXQUALIFIER: Message failed MPPT-MXQUALIFIER: 512
X-RBL-Warning: MPM-STATICSPAMMER: Message failed MPM-STATICSPAMMER: 1048576
X-RBL-Warning: SNIFFER-NOTFOUND: Message failed SNIFFER-NOTFOUND: 0.
X-RBL-Warning: COUNTRY-0POINT: Message failed COUNTRY-0POINT test (line 6,
weight 0)
X-Declude-RefID: 
X-FarmProgress: = Inbound Header (incoming)
=
X-FarmProgress: Spam weight: 165.
X-FarmProgress: Tests Failed: MXRATE-WHITE-LAST, IPNOTINMX, SPFPASS,
MPPT-SIZE-XS, MPPT-MXQUALIFIER, MPM-STATICSPAMMER, SNIFFER-NOTFOUND,
COUNTRY-0POINT, WEIGHT100, WEIGHT100COPY.
X-FarmProgress: Tests Failed: MXRATE-WHITE-LAST [-15], IPNOTINMX [0],
SPFPASS [0], MPPT-SIZE-XS [10], MPPT-MXQUALIFIER [0], MPM-STATICSPAMMER
[180], SNIFFER-NOTFOUND [0], COUNTRY-0POINT [0], WEIGHT100 [100],
WEIGHT100COPY [100]
X-FarmProgress: Scan Time: 04 Dec 2007 at 15:33:49
X-FarmProgress: Spool Name: Dc7a7021d148d.smd
X-FarmProgress: Server Name: forever21.com
X-FarmProgress: SMTP Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-FarmProgress: Received From: mx11.forever21.com [12.129.230.91]
X-FarmProgress: Country Chain: UNITED STATES-destination
X-FarmProgress: Header code: e
X-FarmProgress:
==
X-FarmProgress: This E-mail was scanned by Farm Progress Companies using
Declude 4.3.64
X-FarmProgress:
==
X-Declude-RefID: 
 
Second pass on the email:
X-FarmProgress: = Inbound Header (incoming)
=
X-FarmProgress: Spam weight: 0.
X-FarmProgress: Tests Failed: Whitelisted.
X-FarmProgress: Tests Failed: Whitelisted
X-FarmProgress: Scan Time: 04 Dec 2007 at 15:33:56
X-FarmProgress: Spool Name: Dc7bd02171491.smd
X-FarmProgress: Server Name: imail.Farmprogress.com
X-FarmProgress: SMTP Sender:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-FarmProgress: Received From: (Private IP) [192.168.191.6]
X-FarmProgress: Country Chain: 
X-FarmProgress: Header code: 0
X-FarmProgress:
==
X-FarmProgress: This E-mail was scanned by Farm Progress Companies using
Declude 4.3.64
X-FarmProgress:
==
X-RCPT-TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Status:  
X-UIDL: 392717547
X-IMail-ThreadID: c7bd02171491

 
 
Scott Fisher
Dir of IT
Farm Progress Companies
191 S Gary Ave
Carol Stream, IL 60188
Tel: 630-462-2323
 

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] COPYTO Oddity

2007-12-04 Thread Matt
This appears to be an IMail behavior and not caused by Declude.  There 
are double IMail headers in there, and they have different spool names too.


This may be due to domains being configured for different IP's in 
IMail.  This might require some registry hacking to straighten out.  You 
should check and make sure that the branch with the intended IP is also 
associated with the domain branch in question.  I could reference my own 
system for how this is configured if you want to share an export of this 
with me off-line.  My system does something similar and it isn't double 
scanning, so it must like the way that things appear in my registry.


Matt





Scott Fisher wrote:

I've change the IP number of my server and I've noticed this oddity.
 
Email's that score between 100 and 199, I send a copy to a spam 
mailbox to scan:


WEIGHT100COPY COPYTO [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
After my IP address change, the copyto message is being scanned again 
by Declude.

I would have thought the message shouldn't be scanned again by Declude.
 
Any ideas?
 
Here are some headers:
 
Extra received header:
*Received: from imail.Farmprogress.com [192.168.191.6] by 
imail.Farmprogress.com with ESMTP

  (SMTPD-9.22) id A7BD01FC; Tue, 04 Dec 2007 15:33:49 -0600*
Received: from mx1.farmprogress.com [192.168.191.14] by 
imail.Farmprogress.com with ESMTP

  (SMTPD-9.22) id A7A70330; Tue, 04 Dec 2007 15:33:27 -0600
Received: from forever21.com [12.129.230.91]
 by mx1.farmprogress.com (Alligate(TM) SMTP Gateway v3.7.10.21)
 with ESMPT id [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 for [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
Tue, 04 Dec 2007 15:33:23 -0600

X-VirtualServerGroup: Default
X-Destination-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

X-MailingID: 0::0::0::030884
X-SMFBL: YXNjaGFyZmVuQGZhcm1wcm9ncmVzcy5jb20=
X-Mailer: StrongMail Enterprise 3.2.1(3.00.215)
Received: from mail04
 by forever21.com (StrongMail Enterprise 3.2.1(3.00.215)); Tue, 04 Dec 
2007 13:33:38 -0800

X-SMHeaderMap: mid=X-MailingID
DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1;
 c=nofws;
 s=onlinepromo;
 d=forever21.com;
 q=dns;
 
b=ncw9REjUL4WsRgooMtB40+CfmDvpeiUhlzJIn3WP9jYCBAUgkOs+Acw70VZSuGXfywj5yvy1p9vhtFKtCNMP/a7WvVwE/ozcEbUZ87FkTa6Pld5ssUiV1k1ORcLF0V9Ks0ygEf8sNHRTe9f9XcM7U6/BbOI6EY7XEoRz75PA0Ok=
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
return-path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

mime-version: 1.0
from: Twelvebytwelve [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
date: 4 Dec 2007 13:34:01 -0800
Subject: [Possible SPAM]Button Up!! Coats With A French Accent
content-type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
X-MXRate-Prob: -1
X-MXRate-Country: US
X-MXRate-Action: ALLOW
X-Alligate-ReceivingIP: [192.168.191.14]
X-Alligate-Grey: Skipped
X-Alligate-REVDNS: mx11.forever21.com
X-Alligate-Spam: NOSUBD;
X-Alligate-ID: 30642
X-RBL-Warning: MXRATE-WHITE-LAST: GOOD SENDER
X-RBL-Warning: IPNOTINMX:
X-RBL-Warning: MPPT-SIZE-XS: Message failed MPPT-SIZE-XS: 4
X-RBL-Warning: MPPT-MXQUALIFIER: Message failed MPPT-MXQUALIFIER: 512
X-RBL-Warning: MPM-STATICSPAMMER: Message failed MPM-STATICSPAMMER: 
1048576

X-RBL-Warning: SNIFFER-NOTFOUND: Message failed SNIFFER-NOTFOUND: 0.
X-RBL-Warning: COUNTRY-0POINT: Message failed COUNTRY-0POINT test 
(line 6, weight 0)

X-Declude-RefID:
X-FarmProgress: = Inbound Header (incoming) 
=

X-FarmProgress: Spam weight: 165.
X-FarmProgress: Tests Failed: MXRATE-WHITE-LAST, IPNOTINMX, SPFPASS, 
MPPT-SIZE-XS, MPPT-MXQUALIFIER, MPM-STATICSPAMMER, SNIFFER-NOTFOUND, 
COUNTRY-0POINT, WEIGHT100, WEIGHT100COPY.
X-FarmProgress: Tests Failed: MXRATE-WHITE-LAST [-15], IPNOTINMX [0], 
SPFPASS [0], MPPT-SIZE-XS [10], MPPT-MXQUALIFIER [0], 
MPM-STATICSPAMMER [180], SNIFFER-NOTFOUND [0], COUNTRY-0POINT [0], 
WEIGHT100 [100], WEIGHT100COPY [100]

X-FarmProgress: Scan Time: 04 Dec 2007 at 15:33:49
X-FarmProgress: Spool Name: Dc7a7021d148d.smd
X-FarmProgress: Server Name: forever21.com
X-FarmProgress: SMTP Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

X-FarmProgress: Received From: mx11.forever21.com [12.129.230.91]
X-FarmProgress: Country Chain: UNITED STATES-destination
X-FarmProgress: Header code: e
X-FarmProgress: 
==
X-FarmProgress: This E-mail was scanned by Farm Progress Companies 
using Declude 4.3.64
X-FarmProgress: 
==

X-Declude-RefID:
 
Second pass on the email:
*X-FarmProgress: = Inbound Header (incoming) 
=

X-FarmProgress: Spam weight: 0.
X-FarmProgress: Tests Failed: Whitelisted.
X-FarmProgress: Tests Failed: Whitelisted
X-FarmProgress: Scan Time: 04 Dec 2007 at 15:33:56
X-FarmProgress: Spool Name: Dc7bd02171491.smd
X-FarmProgress: Server Name: 

[Declude.JunkMail] Copyto

2005-06-02 Thread Kyle Fisher








I am trying to use copyto and copy all mail sent or received
from user. I am receiving all mail to the user but nothing from.



This is what I have in my filter file.



MAILFROM 0 IS [EMAIL PROTECTED]

ALLRECIPS 0 CONTAINS [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Kyle








RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Copyto

2005-06-02 Thread Kyle Fisher








What I found so far is that the user is
using AUTH and I whitelist auth so if the whitelist run before my filter it
probably wont work right?



How could I get this to work?



Kyle











From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kyle Fisher
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005
10:17 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Copyto





I am trying to use copyto and copy all mail sent or received
from user. I am receiving all mail to the user but nothing from.



This is what I have in my filter file.



MAILFROM
0
IS [EMAIL PROTECTED]

ALLRECIPS
0
CONTAINS [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Kyle








Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Copyto

2005-06-02 Thread Darin Cox



Good point. Looks like you would have to turn 
off AUTH for the user, which may be undesirable for other reasons. I don't 
think you can run filters if AUTH is enabled.

You might use an IMail rule instead. I think 
others have used that successfully to hide the copying from the 
user.
Darin.


- Original Message - 
From: Kyle Fisher 
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com 

Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 2:28 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Copyto


What I found so far is 
that the user is using AUTH and I whitelist auth so if the whitelist run before 
my filter it probably won’t work right?

How could I get this to 
work?

Kyle





From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kyle FisherSent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 10:17 
AMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: [Declude.JunkMail] 
Copyto

I am trying to use copyto and copy 
all mail sent or received from user. I am receiving all mail to the user 
but nothing from.

This is what I have in my filter 
file.

MAILFROM 
0 
IS [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ALLRECIPS 
0 
CONTAINS [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Kyle


RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Copyto

2005-06-02 Thread Kyle Fisher








Ok thanks. I am already using the copyall
account for Imail for monitoring a different user, but there might be a way
just to use rules to make it work.



Ill try it.



Thanks

Kyle











From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 2:02
PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail]
Copyto







Good point. Looks like you would have to turn off AUTH
for the user, which may be undesirable for other reasons. I don't think
you can run filters if AUTH is enabled.











You might use an IMail rule instead. I think others
have used that successfully to hide the copying from the user.






Darin.

















- Original Message - 



From: Kyle Fisher 





To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com






Sent: Thursday, June 02,
2005 2:28 PM





Subject: RE:
[Declude.JunkMail] Copyto











What I found so far is that the user is
using AUTH and I whitelist auth so if the whitelist run before my filter it
probably wont work right?



How could I get this to work?



Kyle











From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Kyle Fisher
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005
10:17 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Copyto





I am trying to use copyto and copy all mail sent or received
from user. I am receiving all mail to the user but nothing from.



This is what I have in my filter file.



MAILFROM
0
IS [EMAIL PROTECTED]

ALLRECIPS
0
CONTAINS [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Kyle








Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Copyto

2005-06-02 Thread Darin Cox



There was a discussion in the IMail list about a 
week or so ago about doing this. Ibelieve Eric Shanbrom chimed in at 
one point if that helps you find it in the archive. Domain rules may have 
been mentioned as well.
Darin.


- Original Message - 
From: Kyle Fisher 
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com 

Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 3:57 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Copyto


Ok thanks. I am 
already using the copyall account for Imail for monitoring a different user, but 
there might be a way just to use rules to make it 
work.

I’ll try 
it.

Thanks
Kyle





From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin CoxSent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 2:02 
PMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] 
Copyto


Good point. Looks like you 
would have to turn off AUTH for the user, which may be undesirable for other 
reasons. I don't think you can run filters if AUTH is 
enabled.



You might use an IMail rule 
instead. I think others have used that successfully to hide the copying 
from the user.

Darin.





- Original Message - 


From: Kyle Fisher 


To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com 


Sent: Thursday, 
June 02, 2005 2:28 PM

Subject: RE: 
[Declude.JunkMail] Copyto


What I found so far is 
that the user is using AUTH and I whitelist auth so if the whitelist run before 
my filter it probably won’t work right?

How could I get this to 
work?

Kyle





From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kyle FisherSent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 10:17 
AMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: [Declude.JunkMail] 
Copyto

I am trying to use copyto and copy 
all mail sent or received from user. I am receiving all mail to the user 
but nothing from.

This is what I have in my filter 
file.

MAILFROM 
0 
IS [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ALLRECIPS 
0 
CONTAINS [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Kyle


RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Copyto

2005-05-22 Thread Kyle Fisher








Thanks. The article got me working.



Kyle











From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Panda Consulting S.A. Luis
Alberto Arango
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 4:31 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail]
Copyto





Check this archived message. I believe It
has the answer you are looking for



http://www.mail-archive.com/declude.junkmail@declude.com/msg24505.html



it the solution has a small error than is
later fixed in the posts.



Instead of warn, the test should use
COPYTO



Hope it helps





Luis













From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kyle Fisher
Sent: Viernes, 20 de Mayo de 2005
03:42 p.m.
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Copyto





I would like to use copyto to receive a copy of all email
sent/receive from a particular user. I am already using the Imail copy
all mail, but I have that setup for another customer to monitor and I now have
another customer that wants a user monitored. Is there anyway in Junkmail
to monitor all email from a user and to setup multiple sessions?



Kyle



Imail 8.20

Junkmail 2.0.6 Pro










[Declude.JunkMail] Copyto

2005-05-20 Thread Kyle Fisher








I would like to use copyto to receive a copy of all email
sent/receive from a particular user. I am already using the Imail copy all
mail, but I have that setup for another customer to monitor and I now have another
customer that wants a user monitored. Is there anyway in Junkmail to monitor all
email from a user and to setup multiple sessions?



Kyle



Imail 8.20

Junkmail 2.0.6 Pro








RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Copyto

2005-05-20 Thread Panda Consulting S.A. Luis Alberto Arango








Check this archived message. I believe It
has the answer you are looking for



http://www.mail-archive.com/declude.junkmail@declude.com/msg24505.html



it the solution has a small error than is
later fixed in the posts.



Instead of warn, the test should use
COPYTO



Hope it helps





Luis













From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kyle Fisher
Sent: Viernes, 20 de Mayo de 2005
03:42 p.m.
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Copyto





I would like to use copyto to receive a copy of all email
sent/receive from a particular user. I am already using the Imail copy
all mail, but I have that setup for another customer to monitor and I now have
another customer that wants a user monitored. Is there anyway in Junkmail
to monitor all email from a user and to setup multiple sessions?



Kyle



Imail 8.20

Junkmail 2.0.6 Pro










RE: [Declude.JunkMail] COPYTO explanation

2004-06-10 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi Scott:

 COPYTO means Send a copy to (not make a copy of this E-mail and send

it to).  It just adds an extra recipient. 

Uuuu - now I get it.  Makes sense.

Somehow I thought COPYTO also supported copying to a file - so I assumed
it was a true copy action.

Thanks for clearing this up.


Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206 

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] COPYTO combined with DELETE/HOLD/BOUNCE

2004-06-01 Thread Andy Schmidt
Title: Message



Hi 
Scott:

I 
think the the issue of "mutually exclusive" actions may not be obvious to a user 
(after reading the manual).

I did 
some more experimenting using the COPYTO action.

My 
logic was - if I use a "copy" to another user, this reallyshouldn't effect 
how the "primary" recipient's mail is acted on. From my tests it seems as 
if DELETE/HOLD/BOUNCE basically are "killer" actions that cannot be combined 
with ANY other action (other than "LOG/IGNORE")?

I have 
the need to DELETE/HOLD/BOUNCE the "original" message - while (depending on test 
combinations) also route the mail to a special mailbox for 
inspection.

Best 
RegardsAndy SchmidtHM Systems Software, Inc.600 East Crescent 
Avenue, Suite 203Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846Phone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 
(Business)Fax: +1 201 934-9206http://www.HM-Software.com/ 

  


RE: [Declude.JunkMail] COPYTO combined with DELETE/HOLD/BOUNCE

2004-06-01 Thread R. Scott Perry

My logic was - if I use a copy to another user, this really shouldn't 
effect how the primary recipient's mail is acted on.  From my tests it 
seems as if DELETE/HOLD/BOUNCE basically are killer actions that cannot 
be combined with ANY other action (other than LOG/IGNORE)?

I have the need to DELETE/HOLD/BOUNCE the original message - while 
(depending on test combinations) also route the mail to a special mailbox 
for inspection.
Actually, I believe the COPYTO action should be safe to use with other 
actions.  The problem, though, is that if combined with the DELETE action 
the E-mail is deleted (so the extra recipient won't get the E-mail), if the 
HOLD action is used, the E-mail will be held (also preventing the extra 
recipient from seeing it), and with BOUNCE the E-mail is not delivered to 
the recipient (so the extra recipient won't see it either).

It sounds like you are looking to split a single E-mail into two, and have 
different actions taken on each one (something we are considering, but 
likely will not happen soon).

   -Scott
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] COPYTO combined with DELETE/HOLD/BOUNCE

2004-06-01 Thread Goran Jovanovic
Let me throw in my two cents worth as well.

If you are thinking about changing the way you process actions I would
like to see the ability to do multiple actions per test.

NEWFILTER WARN,COPYTO [EMAIL PROTECTED],HOLD

Not sure how you would do this but for me this makes sense.

Want the WARN to see that happens in the header
Copy it to an administrator type person to see what is happening
HOLD it in the queues for releasing or not.

This would allow you to test a new filter and monitor it.

I also had a crazy request today that a person wanted all the SPAM for
the company in question and they would wade through it. Although I
suppose that could be done with a WEIGHT10 ROUTETO
[EMAIL PROTECTED] in that domain's config.

 
 Goran Jovanovic
 The LAN Shoppe

 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry
 Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 6:32 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] COPYTO combined with
DELETE/HOLD/BOUNCE
 
 
 My logic was - if I use a copy to another user, this really
shouldn't
 effect how the primary recipient's mail is acted on.  From my tests
it
 seems as if DELETE/HOLD/BOUNCE basically are killer actions that
cannot
 be combined with ANY other action (other than LOG/IGNORE)?
 
 I have the need to DELETE/HOLD/BOUNCE the original message - while
 (depending on test combinations) also route the mail to a special
mailbox
 for inspection.
 
 Actually, I believe the COPYTO action should be safe to use with other
 actions.  The problem, though, is that if combined with the DELETE
action
 the E-mail is deleted (so the extra recipient won't get the E-mail),
if
 the
 HOLD action is used, the E-mail will be held (also preventing the
extra
 recipient from seeing it), and with BOUNCE the E-mail is not delivered
to
 the recipient (so the extra recipient won't see it either).
 
 It sounds like you are looking to split a single E-mail into two, and
have
 different actions taken on each one (something we are considering, but
 likely will not happen soon).
 
 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] COPYTO

2003-12-23 Thread R. Scott Perry

Using %SENDER%, it is giving inserting [Unknown Var]. If I use %MAILFROM%,
it is also inserting [Unknown Var}.
Sorry, it should be actually %MAILFROM% -- there is no %SENDER% variable.

Are you sure you are using %MAILFROM%?  The only time you should see 
[Unknown Var] is if Declude is expanding variables (as is the case here), 
and the variable is one that Declude doesn't recognize (such as 
%SENDER%).  But if Declude recognizes the variable (as has been the case 
with %MAILFROM% for a long time now), it should not return [Unknown Var].

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] COPYTO

2003-12-23 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
 Are you sure you are using %MAILFROM%?  The only time you should see
 [Unknown Var] is if Declude is expanding variables (as is the case
 here),
 and the variable is one that Declude doesn't recognize (such as
 %SENDER%).  But if Declude recognizes the variable (as has been the case
 with %MAILFROM% for a long time now), it should not return [Unknown
 Var].

Yep.

Declude version 1.77

From the log:

12/23/2003 08:05:32 Q3d98134f028a76bc NOABUSE:3 NOPOSTMASTER:3
BASICFILTER:15 SPAMCHECK:13 .  Total weight = 34.
12/23/2003 08:05:32 Q3d98134f028a76bc Msg failed NOABUSE (Not supporting
[EMAIL PROTECTED]). Action=LOG.
12/23/2003 08:05:32 Q3d98134f028a76bc Msg failed NOPOSTMASTER (Not
supporting [EMAIL PROTECTED]). Action=LOG.
12/23/2003 08:05:32 Q3d98134f028a76bc Msg failed IPNOTINMX (). Action=LOG.
12/23/2003 08:05:32 Q3d98134f028a76bc Msg failed NOLEGITCONTENT (No content
unique to legitimate E-mail detected.). Action=LOG.
12/23/2003 08:05:32 Q3d98134f028a76bc Msg failed BASICFILTER (Message failed
BASICFILTER test (line 1, weight 15)). Action=WARN.
12/23/2003 08:05:32 Q3d98134f028a76bc Msg failed BLANKSUBJECT1 (Message
failed BLANKSUBJECT1 test (line 1, weight 0)). Action=SUBJECT.
12/23/2003 08:05:32 Q3d98134f028a76bc Msg failed BLANKSUBJECT2 (Message
failed BLANKSUBJECT2 test (line 1, weight 0)). Action=COPYTO.
12/23/2003 08:05:32 Q3d98134f028a76bc Msg failed SPAMCHECK (Message failed
SPAMCHECK: 13.). Action=WARN.
12/23/2003 08:05:32 Q3d98134f028a76bc Msg failed WEIGHTRANGE30-34 (Total
weight between 30 and 34.). Action=HOLD.
12/23/2003 08:05:32 Q3d98134f028a76bc Subject: 
12/23/2003 08:05:32 Q3d98134f028a76bc From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  IP: 204.127.202.55 ID:
2003122313055301100ihq4ae

From the Global.cfg file:

BLANKSUBJECT1   filter  D:\Imail\Declude\filters\BlankSubject.txt
x   0   0
BLANKSUBJECT2   filter  D:\Imail\Declude\filters\BlankSubject.txt
x   0   0

From the .junkmail file:

BLANKSUBJECT1   SUBJECT ADDED BY SPAM REVIEW: PLEASE USE A SUBJECT LINE!
BLANKSUBJECT2   COPYTO %MAILFROM%

The Q file:

Qg:\IMail\spool\D3d98134f028a76bc.SMD
Hmail.localdomain.moc
Wf:\IMail\sunline_net
E0,
S[EMAIL PROTECTED]
NRCPT TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
R[EMAIL PROTECTED]
NRCPT TO: [Unknown Var]
R[Unknown Var]

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] COPYTO

2003-12-23 Thread R. Scott Perry

From the Global.cfg file:

BLANKSUBJECT1   filter  D:\Imail\Declude\filters\BlankSubject.txt
x   0   0
BLANKSUBJECT2   filter  D:\Imail\Declude\filters\BlankSubject.txt
x   0   0
From the .junkmail file:

BLANKSUBJECT1   SUBJECT ADDED BY SPAM REVIEW: PLEASE USE A SUBJECT LINE!
BLANKSUBJECT2   COPYTO %MAILFROM%
Is there any chance that you still have a file with %SENDER% in it (which 
would cause the [Unknown Var])?

I tried reproducing this here, and was unable to.

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] COPYTO

2003-12-23 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
 Is there any chance that you still have a file with %SENDER% in it
 (which
 would cause the [Unknown Var])?

HANDING HEAD IN SHAME

I updated the $default$.junkmail. I then have a batch file to update the
various other .junkmail files. I forgot to run the batch file.

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] COPYTO

2003-12-22 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Using %SENDER%, it is giving inserting [Unknown Var]. If I use %MAILFROM%,
it is also inserting [Unknown Var}.

John Tolmachoff
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 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] COPYTO
 
 
 Is it possible to use a variable in the copy to command?
 
 Yes, it is.
 
 Example:
 
 TEST1   COPYTO  %SENDER%
 
 That would work.
 
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] COPYTO

2003-12-21 Thread R. Scott Perry

Is it possible to use a variable in the copy to command?
Yes, it is.

Example:

TEST1   COPYTO  %SENDER%
That would work.

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[Declude.JunkMail] COPYTO

2003-12-20 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Is it possible to use a variable in the copy to command?

Example:

TEST1   COPYTO  %SENDER%

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[Declude.JunkMail] COPYTO

2003-03-06 Thread Bill B.
I use the COPYTO action for one of my tests, however if an email is sent to multiple 
recipients I notice that its adding the COPYTO recipient once for each recipient when 
this test fails.

Any way to make it only add the COPYTO recipient once, regardless of how many original 
recipients there were?

I realize Imail will ignore multiple copies of the same recipient in the Q* file, and 
it will only deliver 1 copy of the email to that recipient...  But I have some custom 
scripts that run after Declude is called, those duplicate recipients in the Q* file is 
causing me a problem.

Thanks,
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] COPYTO

2003-03-06 Thread R. Scott Perry

I use the COPYTO action for one of my tests, however if an email is sent 
to multiple recipients I notice that its adding the COPYTO recipient once 
for each recipient when this test fails.

Any way to make it only add the COPYTO recipient once, regardless of how 
many original recipients there were?
There is a new interim release at 
http://www.declude.com/release/167i/declude.exe that will ensure that the 
COPYTO action will not add an address if it has already been added.
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] COPYTO

2003-03-06 Thread Bill B.
WOW, you're fast!  Thanks,

Bill


-Original Message-
From: R. Scott Perry
Sent: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 10:59:47 -0500
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] COPYTO



I use the COPYTO action for one of my tests, however if an email is sent 
to multiple recipients I notice that its adding the COPYTO recipient once 
for each recipient when this test fails.

Any way to make it only add the COPYTO recipient once, regardless of how 
many original recipients there were?

There is a new interim release at 
http://www.declude.com/release/167i/declude.exe that will ensure that the 
COPYTO action will not add an address if it has already been added.
-Scott

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[Declude.JunkMail] COPYTO action on an Outgoing test

2003-01-27 Thread Bill B.
Is anybody using the COPYTO action for an Outgoing test (requires Declude Pro)?  I 
can't seem to get it to work.  It always copies the email to a blank recipient.  I've 
got this line in the global.cfg file...

SOMETEST  COPYTO  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

...but the sender of the email where this outgoing test fails always receives a bounce 
email saying...

Invalid final delivery userid: @localhost

Running Declude in debug mode shows that it is being copied to a blank address...

Msg failed SOMETEST. Action=COPYTO.
Copying spam to .
AlterRecip( 3, [EMAIL PROTECTED], );
AlterRecip: Loading queuefile
Copying E-mail to .  Altering queuefile.


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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] COPYTO action on an Outgoing test

2003-01-27 Thread Bill B.
Here it is, and I actually sent a bunch of debug information on this problem to 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Sunday morning...

Diagnostics ON (Declude v1.66i11).

Declude JunkMail:  Config file found (d:\imail\Declude\global.CFG).
Declude Virus: Config file found (d:\imail\Declude\Virus.CFG).
Declude Hijack:Config file found (d:\imail\Declude\Hijack.CFG).
Declude Confirm:   Not installed (no d:\imail\Declude\Confirm.CFG file).

42 spam tests defined: LIST KILL WORD COUNTRY DSBL MONKEYFORMMAIL
MONKEYPROXIES ORDB OSDUL OSFORM OSLIST OSPROXY OSRELAY OSSMART OSSOFT OSSRC 
NJABL NJABLDUL NJA BLSOURCES NJABLMULTI NJABLFORMMAIL NJABLPROXIES SPAMCOP
WIREHUBDNSBL DSN NOABUSE NOPOSTMASTER BADHEADERS HELOBOGUS MAILFROM REVDNS
ROUTING SPAMHEADERS BASE64 IPMX HABEAS DNA WEIGHTFAIL WEIGHTFAILOUT
WEIGHTFAILALL PERCENT BULKOUT

IMail reports Official Host Name as: mail01.excedent.us.
IMail's SendName registry seems OK:  d:\imail\Declude.exe.

Declude JunkMail Status: PRO version registered.
Declude Virus Status:Pro Version Registered.
Declude Hijack Status:   Registered.

End of diagnostics.


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From: R. Scott Perry
Sent: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 12:50:32 -0500
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] COPYTO action on an Outgoing test



Is anybody using the COPYTO action for an Outgoing test (requires Declude 
Pro)?  I can't seem to get it to work.  It always copies the email to a 
blank recipient.  I've got this line in the global.cfg file...

Which version of Declude JunkMail are you running (\IMail\Declude -diag 
from a command prompt will show you)?
-Scott

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] COPYTO action on an Outgoing test

2003-01-27 Thread R. Scott Perry


Here it is, and I actually sent a bunch of debug information on this 
problem to [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Sunday morning...

Could you re-send that information?  We don't have a record of it here, and 
it could be very useful in solving the problem.
-Scott

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] COPYTO action on an Outgoing test

2003-01-27 Thread Bill B.
Sure thing.  I just resent it, but this time to [EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: R. Scott Perry
Sent: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 13:41:42 -0500
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] COPYTO action on an Outgoing test



Here it is, and I actually sent a bunch of debug information on this 
problem to [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Sunday morning...

Could you re-send that information?  We don't have a record of it here, and 
it could be very useful in solving the problem.
 -Scott

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] COPYTO action on an Outgoing test

2003-01-27 Thread Bill B.
Hey Scott, let me know if you have received that email now or not, because I noticed 
the email was getting held by declude because the debug file contained lots for words 
that set off our filters.  But I added a whitlist rule, so it should have gotten to 
you now.  But let me know if not.

Thanks,
Bill


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From: Bill B.
Sent: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 13:48:00 EST
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] COPYTO action on an Outgoing test


Sure thing.  I just resent it, but this time to [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: R. Scott Perry
Sent: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 13:41:42 -0500
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] COPYTO action on an Outgoing test



Here it is, and I actually sent a bunch of debug information on this 
problem to [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Sunday morning...

Could you re-send that information?  We don't have a record of it here, and 
it could be very useful in solving the problem.
 -Scott

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] COPYTO action on an Outgoing test

2003-01-27 Thread R. Scott Perry


Hey Scott, let me know if you have received that email now or not, because 
I noticed the email was getting held by declude because the debug file 
contained lots for words that set off our filters.  But I added a whitlist 
rule, so it should have gotten to you now.  But let me know if not.

It did get here this time; I'll let you know what I find out.
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] COPYTO action on an Outgoing test

2003-01-27 Thread R. Scott Perry


Hey Scott, let me know if you have received that email now or not, because 
I noticed the email was getting held by declude because the debug file 
contained lots for words that set off our filters.  But I added a whitlist 
rule, so it should have gotten to you now.  But let me know if not.

This is an issue with Declude JunkMail, and has been fixed in the latest 
interim release (http://www.declude.com/release/166i/declude.exe).
   -Scott

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