Re: [Declude.JunkMail] multistage filtering [OT]

2010-02-10 Thread Ing. Andrés E. Gallo




Try IMgate ( postfix like MTA ).
Len's page is a good 'starting point'

Andres.-







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Bonno Bloksma escribi:

  
  
  
  Hi,
  
  With the amount of spam I have to
throw away each day no reaching consistant levels of over 90%... I can
of course get an even faster mailserver but I think I would be better
of with an extra smtp server in front of my mailserver which filters
the most blatant spam mail purly based on session info. What passes
that server can go on to my IMail server and have more contect based
filtering using Declude, Sniffer, InvURIBL etc.
  
  What would be a good first step
server? I have experience with (Debian) Linux so a Linux based solution
is no problem.
  
  
  
  Met vriendelijke groet,
Bonno Bloksma
senior systeembeheerder
  
  tio
  hogeschool hospitality en
toerisme 
begijnenhof 8-12 / 5611 el eindhoven
t 040 296 28 28 / f 040 237 35 20
  b.blok...@tio.nl
/ www.tio.nl 
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] multistage filtering [OT]

2010-02-10 Thread Harry Vanderzand
I use Alligate

 

Thank you

 

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Intown Internet

117 Ruskview Road

Kitchener, ON, N2M 4S1

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From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Bonno
Bloksma
Sent: February-10-10 6:29 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] multistage filtering [OT]

 

Hi,

 

With the amount of spam I have to throw away each day no reaching consistant
levels of over 90%... I can of course get an even faster mailserver but I
think I would be better of with an extra smtp server in front of my
mailserver which filters the most blatant spam mail purly based on session
info. What passes that server can go on to my IMail server and have more
contect based filtering using Declude, Sniffer, InvURIBL etc.

 

What would be a good first step server? I have experience with (Debian)
Linux so a Linux based solution is no problem.

 

Met vriendelijke groet,
Bonno Bloksma
senior systeembeheerder

tio 

hogeschool hospitality en toerisme 
begijnenhof 8-12 / 5611 el eindhoven
t 040 296 28 28 / f 040 237 35 20

 mailto:b.blok...@tio.nl b.blok...@tio.nl  /  http://www.tio.nl
www.tio.nl 

 


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] multistage filtering [OT]

2010-02-10 Thread Scott Fisher
A second vote for Alligate.

My Alligate Overall rejection rate for Feb 2010: 95%

 

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From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Harry
Vanderzand
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 6:53 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] multistage filtering [OT]

 

I use Alligate

 

Thank you

 

Harry Vanderzand

Intown Internet

117 Ruskview Road

Kitchener, ON, N2M 4S1

519-741-1222

 

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From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Bonno
Bloksma
Sent: February-10-10 6:29 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] multistage filtering [OT]

 

Hi,

 

With the amount of spam I have to throw away each day no reaching consistant
levels of over 90%... I can of course get an even faster mailserver but I
think I would be better of with an extra smtp server in front of my
mailserver which filters the most blatant spam mail purly based on session
info. What passes that server can go on to my IMail server and have more
contect based filtering using Declude, Sniffer, InvURIBL etc.

 

What would be a good first step server? I have experience with (Debian)
Linux so a Linux based solution is no problem.

 

Met vriendelijke groet,
Bonno Bloksma
senior systeembeheerder

tio 

hogeschool hospitality en toerisme 
begijnenhof 8-12 / 5611 el eindhoven
t 040 296 28 28 / f 040 237 35 20

 mailto:b.blok...@tio.nl b.blok...@tio.nl  /  http://www.tio.nl
www.tio.nl 

 


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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] multistage filtering [OT]

2010-02-10 Thread Pete McNeil

Bonno Bloksma wrote:

Hi,
 
With the amount of spam I have to throw away each day no reaching 
consistant levels of over 90%... I can of course get an even faster 
mailserver but I think I would be better of with an extra smtp server 
in front of my mailserver which filters the most blatant spam mail 
purly based on session info. What passes that server can go on to my 
IMail server and have more contect based filtering using Declude, 
Sniffer, InvURIBL etc.
 
What would be a good first step server? I have experience with 
(Debian) Linux so a Linux based solution is no problem.

A couple of things pop into my mind:

eWall can live on your mail server and kill off most connections while 
being trained by SNF. (for example, block IP connections for an hour 
after an SNF hit).


Postfix on a linux box makes a good front-end and can also run SNFMilter 
in real-time during SMTP.


_M



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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] multistage filtering [OT]

2010-02-10 Thread Ncl Admin
Alligate  Alligate Alligate

At 12:28 PM 2/10/2010 +0100, you wrote: 

Hi,


With the amount of spam I have to throw away each day no reaching consistant levels of over 90%... I can of course get an even faster mailserver but I think I would be better of with an extra smtp server in front of my mailserver which filters the most blatant spam mail purly based on session info. What passes that server can go on to my IMail server and have more contect based filtering using Declude, Sniffer, InvURIBL etc.


What would be a good first step server? I have experience with (Debian) Linux so a Linux based solution is no problem.


Met vriendelijke groet,
Bonno Bloksma
senior systeembeheerder

tio 
hogeschool hospitality en toerisme 
begijnenhof 8-12 / 5611 el eindhoven
t 040 296 28 28 / f 040 237 35 20
mailto:b.blok...@tio.nl>b.blok...@tio.nl / http://www.tio.nl>www.tio.nl 



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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] multistage filtering [OT]

2010-02-10 Thread Ing. Andrés E. Gallo
And, besides, Postfix is FREE.

I'm running 2.6 version, with Amavisd-new, SpamAssassin, Postgrey,
together with BindDNS, and SQUID on a cheap machine -P4, 2 Gb RAM, 80 Gb
HDD- under FreeBSD. In fact, 2 of them sharing loads.

Just my 2 cents.

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Pete McNeil escribió:
 Bonno Bloksma wrote:
 Hi,
  
 With the amount of spam I have to throw away each day no reaching
 consistant levels of over 90%... I can of course get an even faster
 mailserver but I think I would be better of with an extra smtp server
 in front of my mailserver which filters the most blatant spam mail
 purly based on session info. What passes that server can go on to my
 IMail server and have more contect based filtering using Declude,
 Sniffer, InvURIBL etc.
  
 What would be a good first step server? I have experience with
 (Debian) Linux so a Linux based solution is no problem.
 A couple of things pop into my mind:

 eWall can live on your mail server and kill off most connections while
 being trained by SNF. (for example, block IP connections for an hour
 after an SNF hit).

 Postfix on a linux box makes a good front-end and can also run
 SNFMilter in real-time during SMTP.

 _M



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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] multistage filtering [OT]

2010-02-10 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
I'm another Alligate fan on the Windows platform. It is a very smart and
effective product.
 
I have conservative settings that stick close to the defaults and my
configuration rejects 80% of the inbound connections.Before I
implemented Alligate, my Declude was hurting because of my large filter
files. A combination of large filter files and large volumes meant heavy
CPU and Disk utilization and conflict.
 
I'm also a MessageSniffer fan, and know that you could be very happy
with Pete's recommended solution.
 
Implementing an MTA in front of your content scanner and mailserver is a
resource that is well spent; the two layers have very different
workloads, and I think you'll find that you need to upgrade the hardware
on the content scanner less if you have an MTA that is filtering the
connections first.
 
 
Andrew.



From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of
Bonno Bloksma
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 3:29 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] multistage filtering [OT]


Hi,
 
With the amount of spam I have to throw away each day no reaching
consistant levels of over 90%... I can of course get an even faster
mailserver but I think I would be better of with an extra smtp server in
front of my mailserver which filters the most blatant spam mail purly
based on session info. What passes that server can go on to my IMail
server and have more contect based filtering using Declude, Sniffer,
InvURIBL etc.
 
What would be a good first step server? I have experience with (Debian)
Linux so a Linux based solution is no problem.
 
Met vriendelijke groet,
Bonno Bloksma
senior systeembeheerder

tio 

hogeschool hospitality en toerisme 
begijnenhof 8-12 / 5611 el eindhoven
t 040 296 28 28 / f 040 237 35 20

b.blok...@tio.nl mailto:b.blok...@tio.nl   / www.tio.nl
http://www.tio.nl  



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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] multistage filtering [OT]

2010-02-10 Thread Matt

It's definitely Alligate for this purpose.

Instead of using something like Postfix or IMgate which will mostly 
replicate functionality found in Declude, Alligate will end up blocking 
things using unique functionality and it runs on Windows and uses very 
little CPU.


The two main features of Alligate as a pre-scanning gateway are the 
selective greylisting functionality, where it will greylist senders only 
if they appear that they might be zombies (since greylisting is really 
only effective against zombie spam), and the other is the internal 
MXRate blacklist.


I rarely block messages with permanent errors with Alligate, but by 
greylisting effectively, you can avoid having 95% of your E-mail traffic 
hit your second layer of scanning.  It also does so selectively so that 
your legitimate E-mail will rarely hit it and cause any issues.


Matt



Bonno Bloksma wrote:

Hi,
 
With the amount of spam I have to throw away each day no reaching 
consistant levels of over 90%... I can of course get an even faster 
mailserver but I think I would be better of with an extra smtp server 
in front of my mailserver which filters the most blatant spam mail 
purly based on session info. What passes that server can go on to my 
IMail server and have more contect based filtering using Declude, 
Sniffer, InvURIBL etc.
 
What would be a good first step server? I have experience with 
(Debian) Linux so a Linux based solution is no problem.
 
Met vriendelijke groet,

Bonno Bloksma
senior systeembeheerder

*tio *
hogeschool hospitality en toerisme
begijnenhof 8-12 / 5611 el eindhoven
t 040 296 28 28 / f 040 237 35 20
b.blok...@tio.nl mailto:b.blok...@tio.nl  / www.tio.nl 
http://www.tio.nl



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