RE: [Declude.Virus] Declude Virus inoperable for 13% of th year?

2009-06-03 Thread Craig Edmonds
Hi David,
 
I have to agree with Darin on this one.

Take some deep breaths before replying to emails mate. 
 
Kindest Regards
Craig Edmonds
123 Marbella Internet
W:  http://www.123marbella.com/ www.123marbella.com
E :  mailto:cr...@123marbella.com cr...@123marbella.com
 
From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Darin
Cox
Sent: 03 June 2009 17:50
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Declude Virus inoperable for 13% of th year?
 
Wow, what a way to respond to a long-time, loyal paying customer!  Instead
of apologizing for the serious problem and relaying what steps are being
taken to avoid it happening again (a simple reminder in the calendar system
of your choice would suffice), it's being thrown back in the customer's
face.
 
Regarding the question of increasing prices for service agreements, that has
no bearing on a current customer who has already paid the fees.  Such
customers should expect the service they paid for to be rendered.  Failure
to do so is a breach of agreement on Declude's part.  While we are all human
and problems can occur, this is a serious failure, and the tone of the
response being putative instead of apologetic makes customers less
forgiving, not more.
 
To be frank, many customers are asking what they are paying for, when fix
and feature requests take months to be released, or not at all.
 
I understand the situation may be frustrating, but it's often best to step
back for a moment, vent elsewhere if needed, then respond professionally to
customers.  Clear, open, and honest communication also helps.
 
Please don't take this email as incendiary.  It is meant to be constructive.
 
Darin.
 
 
- Original Message - 
From: David Barker mailto:dbar...@declude.com  
To: declude.virus@declude.com 
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 11:07 AM
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Declude Virus inoperable for 13% of th year?
 
Andy,
 
a.   Declude Virus does not have a built in system to report this error
as with this specific example. What happened here is not the norm but an
exception.  It was not our choice to hard code the expiration date but a
requirement from AVG. In this instance the specific persons who we had been
working with at AVG are no longer with the company and the process of having
this renewed took longer than usual. 
 
b.  I am not sure if you are being facetious, but if it makes you feel
better, sure you can schedule a reminder for me,  please email me at least 3
month prior of the new expiration date 2010-12-31 
 
c.   Yes AVG was not working as it should have been since 2009-04-10 I
agree with you -  this is totally unacceptable, intolerable, painful and
should not be brushed aside lightly. You are correct in your observations,
we should increase our prices dramatically so we can hire more developers to
ensure unfortunate incidents like this don't happen again.  Considering the
market and what other vendors charge how much more are you prepared to pay
for your service agreement so that we can meet this type of requirement ?
 
David Barker
VP Operations Declude
Your Email security is our business
978.499.2933 office
978.988.1311 fax
 mailto:dbar...@declude.com dbar...@declude.com
 
 
 
From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Andy
Schmidt
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 9:08 AM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.Virus] Declude Virus inoperable for 13% of th year?
Importance: High
Sensitivity: Personal
 
Hi,
 
Dave - so now that we have a working Declude Virus again, what can be done
to prevent this from recurring.
 
a)   Apparently Declude Virus has no error tracking in place at all -
otherwise it would have REPORTED to us (or your own Declude to your own mail
server) that the AVG API was no longer performing scans?
 
b)   Do the customers need to set a follow-up reminder for December
2010, which is when your new renewed AVG license will expire?
 
The old DecludeProc had THIS AVG License String:
 
LicBeg, Ver=1.0, Name=Declude, Exp=2009-04-10
 
So this implies, that the product was inoperable since April 10th for every
customer because Declude didn't obtain a new annual AVG license and had to
wait a few days for this transaction to complete? That means the product
was unusable for 13% of the year?
 
This can't just be brushed aside quietly. 
 
Best Regards,
Andy 

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RE: [Declude.Virus] Still can't get ClamAV to work

2008-12-31 Thread Craig Edmonds

Hi David,

I have no idea but this is what I have in my virus.cfg file.

SCANFILE C:\Progra~1\clamwin\bin\clamscan.exe --verbose
--database=C:\docume~1\alluse~1\.clamwin\db --tempdir=c:\Temp
--no-summary -l report.txt
VIRUSCODE 1

I installed clamwin in the default install directory. (C:\Program
Files\ClamWin)

Its been working perfectly for over 2 years now.

Kindest Regards
Craig Edmonds
123 Marbella Internet Services
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-Original Message-
From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of David
Dodell
Sent: 31 December 2008 14:59
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.Virus] Still can't get ClamAV to work


Still having a problem getting ClamAV to work ... this is what i have  
in my virus.cfg

SCANFILE1 C:\imail\declude\clamav\runclamscan.exe log=1 C:\imail 
\declude\clamav\clamdscan.exe --quiet -l report.txt
VIRUSCODE1 1
REPORT1 FOUND

But my virus logs show this error; any ideas???

David

---

12/30/2008 19:46:25.560 qdcff0228950e.smd Log Level set to LOW
12/30/2008 19:48:21.669 qdd6b02ec954b.smd Vulnerability flags = 0
12/30/2008 19:48:35.388 qdd6b02ec954b.smd Could not find report
file c:\IMail\spool\proc\work\Ddd6b02ec954b.vir\report.txt.
12/30/2008 19:48:35.388 qdd6b02ec954b.smd Error 2 in virus scanner  
1.
12/30/2008 19:48:35.388 qdd6b02ec954b.smd Scanned: Error in virus
scanner. [MIME: 1 6]
12/30/2008 19:48:37.200 qdd790304955c.smd Vulnerability flags = 0
12/30/2008 19:48:40.013 qdd7801e5955b.smd Vulnerability flags = 0
12/30/2008 19:48:51.169 qdd790304955c.smd Could not find report
file c:\IMail\spool\proc\work\Ddd790304955c.vir\report.txt.
12/30/2008 19:48:51.169 qdd790304955c.smd Error 2 in virus scanner  
1.
12/30/2008 19:48:51.169 qdd790304955c.smd Scanned: Error in virus
scanner. [MIME: 1 16]
12/30/2008 19:48:53.435 qdd7801e5955b.smd Could not find report
file c:\IMail\spool\proc\work\Ddd7801e5955b.vir\report.txt.
12/30/2008 19:48:53.435 qdd7801e5955b.smd Error 2 in virus scanner  
1.
12/30/2008 19:48:53.435 qdd7801e5955b.smd Scanned: Error in virus
scanner. [MIME: 2 1865]


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RE: [Declude.Virus] OT: Alligate as a gateway for providers ? (ES)

2008-07-20 Thread Craig Edmonds

Hi Uwe,

We have been using Alligate with Imail and Declude and it works great.

Alligate only filters smtp traffic on ports 25 and 587.

There are a few ways to set up your Alligate but by far the most easiest way
is to set all your port 25 and 587 on your firewall to go directly to the
Alligate server which then filters and forwards the mail to your mail
server.

Alternatively you can do it via dns and by far the easiest is giving your
clients separate smtp and pop server addresses, like for example:

pop.123marbella.com  ip of the mail server
smtp.123marbella.com  ip of the Alligate server

this way clients connect to pop 3 email direct via the mail server but
send all outgoing mail via the Alligate.

I think you can juts ask the support team at Alligate they are very helpful.

I hope this has been of help.

Kindest Regards
Craig Edmonds
123 Marbella Internet Services
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: 19 July 2008 22:30
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] OT: Alligate as a gateway for providers ?


Alligate doesn't filter POP3.

Is that what you wanted to know?

Matt



Uwe Degenhardt wrote:
 Hi list, we are a small provider doing some shop-hosting services.
 As a side-service we are running one eMail-server for 65 domains and
approximately 270 user.
 We tried Alligate (trial) as a gateway server to minimize the load on this
server.
 But my administrator said, that POP3 eMail never goes through to our
eMail-Server.
 Our request is, that the gateway is doing second level SMTP-Outbund
 filtering/checks and POP3 first level inbound filtering/checks.
 The eMail-server-SW is: SmarterMail 4.x on Windows2003 and
SPAM/Virus-Filtering is done by Declude EVA.
 And the customers should be able to receive their eMails via
 SmarterMail directly (bypass Alligate).
 Any chance on doing this with Alligate ?
 Uwe







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[Declude.Virus] skip checking on files larger than Xmb

2007-04-27 Thread Craig Edmonds \(123marbella.com\)
Hi All,

 

Its probably been asked before, but how do I tell declude to skip virus and
spam checking on files say larger than 20mb?

 

Also if you could let me know which file I have to insert the code in that
would be great?

 

Kindest Regards
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RE: [Declude.Virus] I'm currently on a business trip down south and will be returning January 5th, 2007. If t

2007-01-04 Thread Craig Edmonds
 
Is it me or did everyone get this autoresponder about 300 times? 

Kindest Regards
Craig Edmonds
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I'm currently on a business trip down south and will be returning January
5th, 2007. If this is an emergency please call our office at 360.527.9111

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[Declude.Virus] skip if file size more than.....

2006-05-11 Thread Craig Edmonds



Is it possible to 
have the virus scanner skip files over a certain size?

Is this recommended 
and what size should the threshold be?

If possible, where 
and how is this implemented?

Kindest RegardsCraig Edmonds123 
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[Declude.Virus] stop postmaster emails going out

2006-04-25 Thread Craig Edmonds



Is there a way to 
stop the otherpostmaster.eml and postmaster.eml being sent 
out.

I looked in the 
virus.cfg file but cant see any settings.I am starting to get tired of 
all the bounces now.

Kindest RegardsCraig Edmonds123 
Marbella InternetW: www.123marbella.comE : [EMAIL PROTECTED]



[Declude.Virus] which virus is it then? word doc being stopped.

2006-03-08 Thread Craig Edmonds




Hi,

I am using 
declude/imail/clam av

I have had someone 
complain that [EMAIL PROTECTED]i14.com tried 
to send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]i14.comand it did not go through.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]14.comsent an email with a Word Doc attached.

I quickly checked 
the vir0307.log and found the following lines.

The line in red 
below says a virus was found, how can I find out exactly which virus this is and 
explain to to [EMAIL PROTECTED]14.comthat she needs to run a virus scan?

03/07/2006 12:17:36.427 q6bc7040e00f8c308.smd 
Vulnerability flags = 0
03/07/2006 12:17:36.437 q6bc7040e00f8c308.smd MIME 
file: Proyecto OFmálaga1 [base64; Length=376 Checksum=3348]
03/07/2006 12:17:36.637 q6bc7040e00f8c308.smd MIME 
file: Proyecto OFmálaga1 [base64; Length=57344 Checksum=3154948]
03/07/2006 12:17:44.584 q6bc7040e00f8c308.smd Virus 
scanner 1 reports exit code of 103/07/2006 12:17:44.645 
q6bc7040e00f8c308.smd Scanner 1: Virus= Attachment= [48] I03/07/2006 
12:17:44.735 q6bc7040e00f8c308.smd File(s) are INFECTED [: 1]03/07/2006 12:17:44.735 
q6bc7040e00f8c308.smd Scanned: CONTAINS A VIRUS [MIME: 2 
57809]03/07/2006 12:17:44.735 q6bc7040e00f8c308.smd From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]14.com To: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]14.com 
[incoming from 217.126.31.88]03/07/2006 12:17:44.735 q6bc7040e00f8c308.smd 
Subject: 
03/07/2006 12:17:44.825 q6bc7040e00f8c308.smd 
ERROR: No recipients in C:\IMAIL\Declude\recip.eml (is there a To: line before 
the first blank line?)

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RE: [Declude.Virus] clamwin second scanner error

2006-03-04 Thread Craig Edmonds



Hi,

I get a similar error and my virus.cfg file contains this 
entry

SCANFILE C:\progra~1\clamwin\bin\clamscan.exe --quiet 
--log-verbose --no-summary --max-ratio 0 -l report.txtVIRUSCODE 1 


(I only use clam so VIRUSCODE will be 
1)

I geta similar error.

this is an example ofone log entry 
.

03/04/2006 10:55:18.528 q640402a300d0f29e.smd Vulnerability 
flags = 003/04/2006 10:55:18.538 q640402a300d0f29e.smd MIME file: 
[text/html][quoted-printable; Length=867 Checksum=69427]03/04/2006 
10:55:18.769 q640402a300d0f29e.smd Virus scanner 1 reports exit code of 
5003/04/2006 10:55:20.932 q640402a300d0f29e.smd Virus scanner 1 reports exit 
code of 5003/04/2006 10:55:23.586 q640402a300d0f29e.smd Virus scanner 1 
reports exit code of 5003/04/2006 10:55:25.799 q640402a300d0f29e.smd Virus 
scanner 1 reports exit code of 5003/04/2006 10:55:28.433 
q640402a300d0f29e.smd Virus scanner 1 reports exit code of 
50

but here is another...(note is says "contains a 
virus")
03/04/2006 10:55:39.268 q64142ab20086f2a4.smd Vulnerability 
flags = 003/04/2006 10:55:39.278 q64142ab20086f2a4.smd Outlook 'CR' 
vulnerability [Subject: Y] in line 603/04/2006 10:55:39.368 
q64142ab20086f2a4.smd Virus scanner 1 reports exit code of 
50
03/04/2006 10:55:41.451 q64142ab20086f2a4.smd Virus scanner 
1 reports exit code of 5003/04/2006 10:55:44.015 q64142ab20086f2a4.smd Virus 
scanner 1 reports exit code of 50
03/04/2006 10:55:46.108 q64142ab20086f2a4.smd Virus scanner 
1 reports exit code of 50
03/04/2006 10:55:48.181 q64142ab20086f2a4.smd Virus scanner 
1 reports exit code of 50
03/04/2006 10:55:50.184 q64142ab20086f2a4.smd File(s) are 
INFECTED [[Outlook 'CR' Vulnerability]: 50]
03/04/2006 10:56:11.334 q64142ab20086f2a4.smd Scanned: 
CONTAINS A VIRUS 03/04/2006 10:56:11.334 q64142ab20086f2a4.smd From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [incoming from 
213.199.252.61]03/04/2006 10:56:11.334 q64142ab20086f2a4.smd Subject: Your 
sex popularity is in your hands and in the hands of Ultra Allure 
Pheromones.

Based on these two different files and log entrie, is CLAM 
working correctly or not?

(Windows 2003, 
Declude 3.05, CLam AV - up to date latest version.)

Kindest RegardsCraig Edmonds123 
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harry 
VanderzandSent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 5:07 AMTo: 
Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.Virus] clamwin second 
scanner error

thank you George

I made the change but now get a different 
error:

03/03/2006 23:04:41.708 q11c601a3eb87.smd Error 50 in 
virus scanner 2.03/03/2006 23:04:41.708 q11c601a3eb87.smd Scanned: Error 
in virus scanner.

Do you know what that is about?

Harry Vanderzand inTown Internet  Computer Services 519-741-1222


  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of george 
  kulmanSent: Friday, March 03, 2006 6:15 PMTo: 
  Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.Virus] clamwin 
  second scanner error
  
  
  Harry,
  
  For the second scanner you need to have a 2 after 
  SCANFILE and VIRUSCODE
  
  SCANFILE2 
  C:\progra~1\clamwin\bin\clamscan.exe --quiet --log-verbose --no-summary 
  --max-ratio 0 -l report.txtVIRUSCODE2 1 

  
  George
  
  
  
  
  
  
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  On Behalf Of Harry 
  VanderzandSent: Friday, 
  March 03, 2006 5:16 PMTo: 
  Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: [Declude.Virus] clamwin second 
  scanner error
  
  
  I added clamav as a second scanner 
  to my virus.cfg file as follows:
  
  
  
  SCANFILE C:\F-Prot\fpcmd.exe 
  -TYPE -SILENT -NOMEM -ARCHIVE=5 -DUMB -NOBOOT -REPORT=report.txtVIRUSCODE 
  3VIRUSCODE 6VIRUSCODE 8REPORT 
  Infection:
  
  
  
  SCANFILE 
  C:\progra~1\clamwin\bin\clamscan.exe --quiet --log-verbose --no-summary 
  --max-ratio 0 -l report.txtVIRUSCODE 1 
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  Now I get the folowing error in 
  the virus log:
  
  03/03/2006 17:11:59.307 
  qbf26019990d6.smd Vulnerability flags = 86203/03/2006 

RE: [Declude.Virus] clamwin second scanner error

2006-03-04 Thread Craig Edmonds



Thanks George, that seemed to worked.

Kindest RegardsCraig Edmonds123 
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of george 
kulmanSent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 1:04 PMTo: 
Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.Virus] clamwin second 
scanner error


Craig,

You seem to be using 
the command lines for Clamav and not ClamWn in your virus.cfg. The 
following id for a default installation of ClamWin. Also, be sure that you 
have a C:\Temp directory set up.

SCANFILE 
C:\Progra~1\clamwin\bin\clamscan.exe --verbose 
--database="C:\Docume~1\Alluse~1\.clamwin\db" --tempdir="c:\Temp" --no-summary 
-l report.txt
VIRUSCODE 
1
REPORT 
FOUND

George








From: 
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On Behalf Of Craig 
EdmondsSent: Saturday, March 
04, 2006 5:05 AMTo: 
Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.Virus] clamwin second 
scanner errorImportance: 
High

Hi,

I get a similar error 
and my virus.cfg file contains this entry

SCANFILE 
C:\progra~1\clamwin\bin\clamscan.exe --quiet --log-verbose --no-summary 
--max-ratio 0 -l report.txtVIRUSCODE 1 

(I only use clam so 
VIRUSCODE will be 1)

I geta similar 
error.

this is an example 
ofone log entry .

03/04/2006 10:55:18.528 
q640402a300d0f29e.smd Vulnerability flags = 003/04/2006 10:55:18.538 
q640402a300d0f29e.smd MIME file: [text/html][quoted-printable; Length=867 
Checksum=69427]03/04/2006 10:55:18.769 q640402a300d0f29e.smd Virus scanner 1 
reports exit code of 5003/04/2006 10:55:20.932 q640402a300d0f29e.smd Virus 
scanner 1 reports exit code of 5003/04/2006 10:55:23.586 
q640402a300d0f29e.smd Virus scanner 1 reports exit code of 5003/04/2006 
10:55:25.799 q640402a300d0f29e.smd Virus scanner 1 reports exit code of 
5003/04/2006 10:55:28.433 q640402a300d0f29e.smd Virus scanner 1 reports exit 
code of 50

but here is 
another...(note is says "contains a virus")
03/04/2006 10:55:39.268 
q64142ab20086f2a4.smd Vulnerability flags = 003/04/2006 10:55:39.278 
q64142ab20086f2a4.smd Outlook 'CR' vulnerability [Subject: Y] in line 
603/04/2006 10:55:39.368 q64142ab20086f2a4.smd Virus scanner 1 reports exit 
code of 50
03/04/2006 10:55:41.451 
q64142ab20086f2a4.smd Virus scanner 1 reports exit code of 5003/04/2006 
10:55:44.015 q64142ab20086f2a4.smd Virus scanner 1 reports exit code of 
50
03/04/2006 10:55:46.108 
q64142ab20086f2a4.smd Virus scanner 1 reports exit code of 
50
03/04/2006 10:55:48.181 
q64142ab20086f2a4.smd Virus scanner 1 reports exit code of 
50
03/04/2006 10:55:50.184 
q64142ab20086f2a4.smd File(s) are INFECTED [[Outlook 'CR' Vulnerability]: 
50]
03/04/2006 10:56:11.334 
q64142ab20086f2a4.smd Scanned: CONTAINS A VIRUS 03/04/2006 10:56:11.334 
q64142ab20086f2a4.smd From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [incoming from 
213.199.252.61]03/04/2006 10:56:11.334 q64142ab20086f2a4.smd Subject: Your 
sex popularity is in your hands and in the hands of Ultra Allure 
Pheromones.

Based on these two 
different files and log entrie, is CLAM working correctly or 
not?

(Windows 2003, Declude 
3.05, CLam AV - up to date latest version.)


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