RE: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?

2005-01-29 Thread Markus Gufler

 My log files go to a separate directory (partition if 
 available) and are zipped either weekly or monthly depending 
 on size and when there are enough they get burned to CD then deleted.

As we're talking about partitions, spool folders and
moving/deleting/archiving files. I've noted that setting up the spool folder
as a separate NTFS-partition attached as a subfolder to the imail partition
works but sometime there are some strange error messages (cant delete
message, or the message is deleted but still showing up in the file
explorer) Following a MS KB article this is a known issue. Stop. :-/

Markus

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RE: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?

2005-01-29 Thread Goran Jovanovic
Hi Markus,

 Back to the topic: If someone want I can publish the script-part who
moves
 the D file back to the spool folder and runs smtp32.exe with the
 associated
 Q-file so that it will be delivered immediatly.

If you were to send me the part or publish it somewhere I would take a
crack at integrating into the ASP script. I used to program so I hope I
can figure it out.

In any case thank you for the REQUEUE.ASP script that you did many moons
ago.

 
 
 
 Goran Jovanovic
 The LAN Shoppe

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RE: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?

2005-01-28 Thread Goran Jovanovic
Andy,

Someone posted on this list a while ago a small ASP page that I am using
to requeue a banned file. I send out a bannotify.eml what has the link
back to the server with the appropriate file name. The user says I
really really want this file and clicks on the link. It gets requeued
automatically into the spool directory and it is not scanned/banned
again and the user gets it within 30 minutes.

I remember that there was some discussion on the list a while ago about
having the users authenticate and fill in a form etc. I decided not to
bother with that. 

I can send you my bannotify.eml and the asp file if you wish. Let me
know

 
 
 
 Goran Jovanovic
 The LAN Shoppe

 

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.Virus-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Schmidt
 Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 6:27 PM
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?
 
  1.82 will treat encrypted .RAR files the same as encrypted .ZIP
files,
 and will block banned file extensions in .RAR files the same way as it
 blocks banned file extensions in .ZIP files. 
 
 Beautiful!
 
 Now we just need McAfee to scan inside RAR files G
 
 (Globally banning zipped .EXE files is not an option for me - I gotta
give
 those customers SOME practical way to send/receive restricted file
 types.)
 
 Best Regards
 Andy
 
 
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RE: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?

2005-01-28 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi Goran:

Oh, I've been thinking about just that.  However does that mean you hold all
virus files?  

I don't think I could afford the additional disk space (the spool file is
already too big as it is.)

Best Regards
Andy 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goran Jovanovic
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 12:48 PM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?


Andy,

Someone posted on this list a while ago a small ASP page that I am using to
requeue a banned file. I send out a bannotify.eml what has the link back to
the server with the appropriate file name. The user says I really really
want this file and clicks on the link. It gets requeued automatically into
the spool directory and it is not scanned/banned again and the user gets it
within 30 minutes.

I remember that there was some discussion on the list a while ago about
having the users authenticate and fill in a form etc. I decided not to
bother with that. 

I can send you my bannotify.eml and the asp file if you wish. Let me know

 
 
 
 Goran Jovanovic
 The LAN Shoppe

 

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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Schmidt
 Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 6:27 PM
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?
 
  1.82 will treat encrypted .RAR files the same as encrypted .ZIP
files,
 and will block banned file extensions in .RAR files the same way as it 
 blocks banned file extensions in .ZIP files. 
 
 Beautiful!
 
 Now we just need McAfee to scan inside RAR files G
 
 (Globally banning zipped .EXE files is not an option for me - I gotta
give
 those customers SOME practical way to send/receive restricted file
 types.)
 
 Best Regards
 Andy
 
 
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RE: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?

2005-01-28 Thread Goran Jovanovic
Hi Andy,

Yes I keep all virus files

VIRDIR  spool\virus

But I have a process that runs every night and cleans out the 6th day of
files. That way I only hold 5 days of files. Right now in my spool\virus
directory I have 2818 files which is 1409 mail messages. Total space of
27.7 MB.

Of course your mail system is MUCH bigger than mine if memory serves me
correctly.

 
 
 
 Goran Jovanovic
 The LAN Shoppe

 

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.Virus-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Schmidt
 Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 5:05 PM
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?
 
 Hi Goran:
 
 Oh, I've been thinking about just that.  However does that mean you
hold
 all
 virus files?
 
 I don't think I could afford the additional disk space (the spool file
is
 already too big as it is.)
 
 Best Regards
 Andy
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goran Jovanovic
 Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 12:48 PM
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?
 
 
 Andy,
 
 Someone posted on this list a while ago a small ASP page that I am
using
 to
 requeue a banned file. I send out a bannotify.eml what has the link
back
 to
 the server with the appropriate file name. The user says I really
really
 want this file and clicks on the link. It gets requeued automatically
into
 the spool directory and it is not scanned/banned again and the user
gets
 it
 within 30 minutes.
 
 I remember that there was some discussion on the list a while ago
about
 having the users authenticate and fill in a form etc. I decided not to
 bother with that.
 
 I can send you my bannotify.eml and the asp file if you wish. Let me
know
 
 
 
 
  Goran Jovanovic
  The LAN Shoppe
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.Virus-
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Schmidt
  Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 6:27 PM
  To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
  Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?
 
   1.82 will treat encrypted .RAR files the same as encrypted .ZIP
 files,
  and will block banned file extensions in .RAR files the same way as
it
  blocks banned file extensions in .ZIP files. 
 
  Beautiful!
 
  Now we just need McAfee to scan inside RAR files G
 
  (Globally banning zipped .EXE files is not an option for me - I
gotta
 give
  those customers SOME practical way to send/receive restricted file
  types.)
 
  Best Regards
  Andy
 
 
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RE: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?

2005-01-28 Thread Goran Jovanovic
Darin,

What do you do with the old log files? Do you put them on another
machine for processing/analysis/archiving?

If you are archiving how long do you keep the data?

Thanx

 
 
 
 Goran Jovanovic
 The LAN Shoppe

 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.Virus-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox
 Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 5:15 PM
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?
 
 Notices only go out for banned files.  We include a statement that the
 email
 will be available to be requeued for x number of days...so automatic
 processes clean it up if it's unclaimed.
 
 Regarding the space problem, are you moving logs off to another
partition
 on
 a nightly basis?  Between that, automatic cleanup, and zipping old
logs
 ours
 stays pretty clean.
 
 Darin.
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Andy Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 5:05 PM
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?
 
 
 Hi Goran:
 
 Oh, I've been thinking about just that.  However does that mean you
hold
 all
 virus files?
 
 I don't think I could afford the additional disk space (the spool file
is
 already too big as it is.)
 
 Best Regards
 Andy
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goran Jovanovic
 Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 12:48 PM
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?
 
 
 Andy,
 
 Someone posted on this list a while ago a small ASP page that I am
using
 to
 requeue a banned file. I send out a bannotify.eml what has the link
back
 to
 the server with the appropriate file name. The user says I really
really
 want this file and clicks on the link. It gets requeued automatically
into
 the spool directory and it is not scanned/banned again and the user
gets
 it
 within 30 minutes.
 
 I remember that there was some discussion on the list a while ago
about
 having the users authenticate and fill in a form etc. I decided not to
 bother with that.
 
 I can send you my bannotify.eml and the asp file if you wish. Let me
know
 
 
 
 
  Goran Jovanovic
  The LAN Shoppe
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.Virus-
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Schmidt
  Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 6:27 PM
  To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
  Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?
 
   1.82 will treat encrypted .RAR files the same as encrypted .ZIP
 files,
  and will block banned file extensions in .RAR files the same way as
it
  blocks banned file extensions in .ZIP files. 
 
  Beautiful!
 
  Now we just need McAfee to scan inside RAR files G
 
  (Globally banning zipped .EXE files is not an option for me - I
gotta
 give
  those customers SOME practical way to send/receive restricted file
  types.)
 
  Best Regards
  Andy
 
 
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RE: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?

2005-01-28 Thread Andy Schmidt
I may have to start doing that.  I used to be able to keep 30 days of logs -
but volume, dictionary attacks and SPAM volume are making it increasingly
difficult.

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

HM Systems Software, Inc.
600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203
Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206

http://www.HM-Software.com/


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 05:15 PM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?


Notices only go out for banned files.  We include a statement that the email
will be available to be requeued for x number of days...so automatic
processes clean it up if it's unclaimed.

Regarding the space problem, are you moving logs off to another partition on
a nightly basis?  Between that, automatic cleanup, and zipping old logs ours
stays pretty clean.

Darin.


- Original Message - 
From: Andy Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 5:05 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?


Hi Goran:

Oh, I've been thinking about just that.  However does that mean you hold all
virus files?

I don't think I could afford the additional disk space (the spool file is
already too big as it is.)

Best Regards
Andy

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goran Jovanovic
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 12:48 PM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?


Andy,

Someone posted on this list a while ago a small ASP page that I am using to
requeue a banned file. I send out a bannotify.eml what has the link back to
the server with the appropriate file name. The user says I really really
want this file and clicks on the link. It gets requeued automatically into
the spool directory and it is not scanned/banned again and the user gets it
within 30 minutes.

I remember that there was some discussion on the list a while ago about
having the users authenticate and fill in a form etc. I decided not to
bother with that.

I can send you my bannotify.eml and the asp file if you wish. Let me know




 Goran Jovanovic
 The LAN Shoppe



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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.Virus- 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Schmidt
 Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 6:27 PM
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?

  1.82 will treat encrypted .RAR files the same as encrypted .ZIP
files,
 and will block banned file extensions in .RAR files the same way as it 
 blocks banned file extensions in .ZIP files. 

 Beautiful!

 Now we just need McAfee to scan inside RAR files G

 (Globally banning zipped .EXE files is not an option for me - I gotta
give
 those customers SOME practical way to send/receive restricted file
 types.)

 Best Regards
 Andy


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Re: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?

2005-01-28 Thread Darin Cox
Yeah...we had to do it previously due to log storage.  It was a good thing
we did it when there was still plenty of room as our logs doubled in size
last November from a sudden increase in spam and dictionary attacks.

Over a span of two days we went from 80% to 95% spam for about three weeks
before it settled back down to around 90% spam...and stayed there.

Darin.


- Original Message - 
From: Andy Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 5:28 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?


I may have to start doing that.  I used to be able to keep 30 days of logs -
but volume, dictionary attacks and SPAM volume are making it increasingly
difficult.

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

HM Systems Software, Inc.
600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203
Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206

http://www.HM-Software.com/


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 05:15 PM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?


Notices only go out for banned files.  We include a statement that the email
will be available to be requeued for x number of days...so automatic
processes clean it up if it's unclaimed.

Regarding the space problem, are you moving logs off to another partition on
a nightly basis?  Between that, automatic cleanup, and zipping old logs ours
stays pretty clean.

Darin.


- Original Message - 
From: Andy Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 5:05 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?


Hi Goran:

Oh, I've been thinking about just that.  However does that mean you hold all
virus files?

I don't think I could afford the additional disk space (the spool file is
already too big as it is.)

Best Regards
Andy

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goran Jovanovic
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 12:48 PM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?


Andy,

Someone posted on this list a while ago a small ASP page that I am using to
requeue a banned file. I send out a bannotify.eml what has the link back to
the server with the appropriate file name. The user says I really really
want this file and clicks on the link. It gets requeued automatically into
the spool directory and it is not scanned/banned again and the user gets it
within 30 minutes.

I remember that there was some discussion on the list a while ago about
having the users authenticate and fill in a form etc. I decided not to
bother with that.

I can send you my bannotify.eml and the asp file if you wish. Let me know




 Goran Jovanovic
 The LAN Shoppe



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.Virus-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Schmidt
 Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 6:27 PM
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?

  1.82 will treat encrypted .RAR files the same as encrypted .ZIP
files,
 and will block banned file extensions in .RAR files the same way as it
 blocks banned file extensions in .ZIP files. 

 Beautiful!

 Now we just need McAfee to scan inside RAR files G

 (Globally banning zipped .EXE files is not an option for me - I gotta
give
 those customers SOME practical way to send/receive restricted file
 types.)

 Best Regards
 Andy


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RE: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?

2005-01-28 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
My log files go to a separate directory (partition if available) and are
zipped either weekly or monthly depending on size and when there are enough
they get burned to CD then deleted.

John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
eServices For You


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 On Behalf Of Goran Jovanovic
 Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 2:24 PM
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 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?
 
 Darin,
 
 What do you do with the old log files? Do you put them on another
 machine for processing/analysis/archiving?
 
 If you are archiving how long do you keep the data?
 
 Thanx
 
 
 
 
  Goran Jovanovic
  The LAN Shoppe
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.Virus-
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox
  Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 5:15 PM
  To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
  Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?
 
  Notices only go out for banned files.  We include a statement that the
  email
  will be available to be requeued for x number of days...so automatic
  processes clean it up if it's unclaimed.
 
  Regarding the space problem, are you moving logs off to another
 partition
  on
  a nightly basis?  Between that, automatic cleanup, and zipping old
 logs
  ours
  stays pretty clean.
 
  Darin.
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Andy Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
  Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 5:05 PM
  Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?
 
 
  Hi Goran:
 
  Oh, I've been thinking about just that.  However does that mean you
 hold
  all
  virus files?
 
  I don't think I could afford the additional disk space (the spool file
 is
  already too big as it is.)
 
  Best Regards
  Andy
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goran Jovanovic
  Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 12:48 PM
  To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
  Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?
 
 
  Andy,
 
  Someone posted on this list a while ago a small ASP page that I am
 using
  to
  requeue a banned file. I send out a bannotify.eml what has the link
 back
  to
  the server with the appropriate file name. The user says I really
 really
  want this file and clicks on the link. It gets requeued automatically
 into
  the spool directory and it is not scanned/banned again and the user
 gets
  it
  within 30 minutes.
 
  I remember that there was some discussion on the list a while ago
 about
  having the users authenticate and fill in a form etc. I decided not to
  bother with that.
 
  I can send you my bannotify.eml and the asp file if you wish. Let me
 know
 
 
 
 
   Goran Jovanovic
   The LAN Shoppe
 
 
 
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   Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 6:27 PM
   To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
   Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?
  
1.82 will treat encrypted .RAR files the same as encrypted .ZIP
  files,
   and will block banned file extensions in .RAR files the same way as
 it
   blocks banned file extensions in .ZIP files. 
  
   Beautiful!
  
   Now we just need McAfee to scan inside RAR files G
  
   (Globally banning zipped .EXE files is not an option for me - I
 gotta
  give
   those customers SOME practical way to send/receive restricted file
   types.)
  
   Best Regards
   Andy
  
  
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RE: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?

2005-01-27 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hm,

 It isn't gonna happen, unless rarsoft sells to winzip. 

I'm not sure if this it legit:
http://www.rarlab.com/rar_add.htm

But it appears that unrar source code, DLLs etc are readily available to
software developers?

(Even if it was not, Winzip already has command line links for some of the
older file types, I see no licensing problem if they wanted to support rar
on that level.)

In fact, I wonder if Declude 2.1 could use those libraries to unrar files
to look inside RAR archives?

Best Regards
Andy 

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RE: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?

2005-01-27 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hm,

http://www.rarreg.com/licence.php

No person or company may distribute separate parts of the package 
== with the exception of the UnRAR components ==, 
without written permission of the copyright owner.

So - it looks as if it's an open license for the UnRAR components - and only
the WinRAR/RAR application is restricted. 

Best Regards
Andy 

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RE: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?

2005-01-27 Thread R. Scott Perry

In fact, I wonder if Declude 2.1 could use those libraries to unrar files
to look inside RAR archives?
How about 1.82?  :)
1.82 will treat encrypted .RAR files the same as encrypted .ZIP files, and 
will block banned file extensions in .RAR files the same way as it blocks 
banned file extensions in .ZIP files.

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RE: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?

2005-01-27 Thread Andy Schmidt
 1.82 will treat encrypted .RAR files the same as encrypted .ZIP files,
and will block banned file extensions in .RAR files the same way as it
blocks banned file extensions in .ZIP files. 

Beautiful! 

Now we just need McAfee to scan inside RAR files G

(Globally banning zipped .EXE files is not an option for me - I gotta give
those customers SOME practical way to send/receive restricted file types.)

Best Regards
Andy 


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Re: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?

2005-01-27 Thread Bill Landry
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From: Andy Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Now we just need McAfee to scan inside RAR files G

Indeed!  Even F-Prot scans inside of .rar files:
=
cat report.txt
Virus scanning report  -  27 January 2005 @ 16:46

F-PROT ANTIVIRUS
Program version: 3.16a
Engine version: 3.16.2

VIRUS SIGNATURE FILES
SIGN.DEF created 27 January 2005
SIGN2.DEF created 27 January 2005
MACRO.DEF created 27 January 2005

Search: MsWindowsUpdate.rar
Action: Report only
Files: Dumb scan of all files
Switches: /ARCHIVE /PACKED /SERVER /REPORT=report.txt
Memory was not scanned.
Hard disk boot sectors were not scanned.

F:\Virus-Test\MsWindowsUpdate.rar-MsWindowsUpdate.exe  is a dropper for
W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Bill

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