Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Material Color Palette

2019-07-11 Thread kainz.a
there are now 6 color paletts installed in LibO
1. chart
2. freecolour-hlc
3. html
4. libreoffice
5. standard
6. tonal

chart is not really an color platte, it's there for charts in general.
LibreOffice has the branding colors and was used to generate marketing
materials for LibO so it's more an internal palett. html is an full palett
but the target is in general html stuff. freecolour-hlc is really cool but
has 1.000 colors so the average user may need some color  space background.

So in general there are the standard and tonal color paletts available to
do tasks for writer, calc, draw and impress. that was also the reason to
add material palett cause it's well known and you have a well designed
palett for drawing stuff in draw, make shape styles for impress or make
nice tables and charts in chart.

cheers
Andreas_k

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[libreoffice-design] Fwd: Rework of Writer comments "button"

2019-07-11 Thread Jan-Marek Glogowski
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Betreff: Rework of Writer comments "button"
Datum: 11.07.2019 17:21
Von: Jan-Marek Glogowski 
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Hi everybody,

an other query for a different problem :-)

While fixing tdf#126333 
(https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=126333) I found the 
current behavior of that pseudo button quite annoying. Not only forces 
it a repositioning of the displayed document, which probably can't be 
avoided, but it also moves the text and arrow of the button around.


So now there is as WIP / RfC: https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/75421/

* cleanup code
* handle the arrow like a tree view
  * > = collapsed, v = expanded
* keeping the position of the arrow in front of the text
  * no more shifting of the text and arrow in the button
* replace many static values with (correct?) dynamic ones
* use highlight colors for mouse over

I tried to use the DecorationView::DrawButton, but that didn't work. I'm 
not sure this is even the right interface.


But there is still one major problem left: positioning of the button 
text in RTL. If you start LO with LANG=ar, the button text and arrow 
aren't visible, because they are outside of the view. As a workaround I 
left-aligned them together in case of collapsed comments in RTL in the 
patch.


But the problem would go away, if Writer would mirror the position of 
the comments too and would also show the button on the left side in RTL.


* How do other programs display comments when in RTL mode?
* Do you think moving the comments to the right is a good idea for RTL?
* I hope moving the "button" and comments wouldn't be that hard. Anyone 
knows that code and can comment on that?

* Is there a better way to draw this "button"?
* Any other opinions on the patch?
* Any option on the changed behavior?

Thanks

Jan-Marek

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[libreoffice-design] Re: Material Color Palette

2019-07-11 Thread V Stuart Foote
Google's 'Material Design' color  tables from 2014 are sound sRGB based
efforts. Adding them as a built-in color palette  facilitates their use in
any of the LibreOffice modules.  

Andreas' effort to fit them into our 12 column palette color picker--now
including the two Accent colors--means they will be correctly labeled as
colors when brought in from external materials also using the core Material
Design 2014 color tables. And imagine our builds for Android would put them
to use. 

Just makes sense to provide this 'out of the box' for seamless use in
LibreOffice without having to load as an extension.

+1



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Re: [libreoffice-design] Material Color Palette

2019-07-11 Thread Cor Nouws
Heiko Tietze wrote on 7/11/19 3:23 PM:

> So +1 for yes and -1 for no. My vote is -1.

I only see 8 palettes - so why not 9 :)

+1



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[libreoffice-design] Material Color Palette

2019-07-11 Thread Heiko Tietze
Short question: Shall we add another color palette to the list? Pro: Material 
is mature and state of the art (Andreas' wwords) vs Con: the list is right now 
bloated and there is no clear use case for material colors (some comments on 
the patch [1]).

So +1 for yes and -1 for no. My vote is -1.

[1] https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/75377/
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[libreoffice-design] Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2019-Jul-10

2019-07-11 Thread Heiko Tietze
Prerent: NogdanB, Kompi, Heiko

Tickets

 * Icon styles should not modify official application icons in start center 
(and other relevant places)
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=126074
   + unique brandind for own MIME type icons or less restrictive guidelines 
like "frame with a donkey ear"
   + con (there is no guidline besides the TDF logo, icons should blend with 
the OS/DE)
   + pro (icons are part of the visual identity, we acrtually do have some kind 
of implicite branding)
   + we definitely do not agree with dove symbols on the icons, for example
   => we should draft a guideline and discuss this (eg. donkey ear 
anywhere/top-right and exact module-color/bluish, greenish...)

 * Calc resizes to zero
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125543
   + suggest 4:3 with 85% of the screen height when larger than 960px
   + may be better 16:9? -> that's for movies
   + agree with suggest in general of course (kompi)
   + use half of the screen on my laptop (Bogdan)
   => agree with the proposal

 * Enhancement: Tables, Pagebreak: "keep with next row" feature
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125972
   + not a UX topic (kompi)
   + keep with next paragraph should be sufficient
   => no further input from UX

 * PDF Export: PDF shows only two pages of a document with three pages (one 
page is hidden in the odf document)
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=126284
   + boils down to the question what a page is
   + not a UX topic, actually NAB (kompi)
   + we need a raw document example (bugdan)
   + happens only when in book view mode
   => NAB

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