Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Design/ UX advice for my GSOC project

2019-08-08 Thread Rasmus Jonsson
I would also like advice for the web-based control panel for my GSOC
project. 

This user interface was created about two months ago and I haven't
updated it. I suppose it needs something similar to your mockup for the
remote. Of course I could make something up but I would feel a lot more
secure knowing I have your support for a design.

Screenshot:

https://i.imgur.com/LGCBRti.png

The functionality is done, it just needs to look pretty and so on.

This was the mockup I had in the project proposal:

https://imgur.com/a/AxaL4FR

Rasmus

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Design/ UX advice for my GSOC project

2019-08-08 Thread Rasmus Jonsson
On Mon, 5 Aug 2019 13:45:53 +0200
Heiko Tietze  wrote:

> * Eve also wants to "select slide mode, swipe mode, blank screen,
> resume from blank screen"... (no idea why she wants this).

I got this from the Impress Remote Protocol specification. It has
"activate blank screen" (the black screen you get at the end of a LO
Impress presentation, "Press any key to quit..."), and it also has a
"resume" function which takes you back to your slide. I also don't know
why people need this but I guess someone might use it.

Apart from that your analysis/ description is correct.

> I wonder how to load a presentation. Wouldn't you expect to connect
> to some service where all odp's are listed and you pick one?

This is controlled either manually (as with the Impress Remote, except
you need to have the JS Remote server/ backend also running). You
select your presentation manually and visit the Impress Remote website.

But this was created in conjunction with my GSOC project, in that case
you're uploading presentations through the "LibreOffice Appliances"
program (https://rptr.github.io/gsoc has more details.)

> What I could imagine as a use case is some kind of advertising
> installation where your slides starts over the whole day and you just
> check the proper function.

Interesting idea, I think this is what LibreOffice Appliances does?
Maybe I've misunderstood.

> My mockup at
> https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/s66wtgP76YDpbCD has three
> sections: on top a ControlsBar containing icons with labels for the
> primary functions and a (hamburger) menu for secondary things, a
> PreviewArea where the currently shown slide is highlighted and the
> slides are indicated by names, and below a StatusBar that lists all
> respective information in a known way - and becomes red in case of
> errors. The Balsamiq file for this image is at
> https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/biXXbZwPLnCCoPL

Thanks for the mockup, I'm implementing this design.



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Re: [libreoffice-design] Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2019-Aug-08

2019-08-08 Thread kainz.a
>+ we should listen more to the users and do more interviews (Franklin)
>+ asking for issues would be QA work so perhaps we think about
>  usability tests or standardized questionnaires
>=> to be continued
>

the issue is, we don't have any automatic tracking features in LibO so it's
very, very difficult to track what is usefull, what not, what is an common
task that is not so easy in LibO than in other apps, ...

So have some standardized tests for the users, could help. In addition
maybe we can work here together with universities where students learn how
to make such kind of tests and analyse them.

cheers
Andreas_K

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[libreoffice-design] Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2019-Aug-08

2019-08-08 Thread Heiko Tietze
Present: Franklin, Heiko

Tickets

 * not went into the details

Discussion

 * Findings from Taiwan users collected during lectures (Franklin)
   + Default settings of image anchor in Writer -> can it be specified by users?
 + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=123169
 + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=126247
 solution could be
 + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87720
 + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87742
 alternatively to another option we could keep the last used setting
   + Distribution of objects as known from Draw/Impress missing in Writer
 + no ticket found, let's create one
 + but you cannot multi-select images 
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=126740 duplicate 
of:
 https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34438
   + The behavior of removing hyperlinks are different in Writer, Calc and 
Impress
 + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=126705
   + Behavior of mail merge changed with some version confusing users
   + Users like the zoom slider at the status bar, the sidebar functionality, 
 and switch to single toolbar (which will be superseded by the equivalent
 Notebookbar see https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125040

 * Change the meeting somehow (Heiko)
   + not too many are interested to join so maybe have meetings less 
 frequently, with different topics, maybe kind of question/answer
 or to scribble mockups?
   + we should listen more to the users and do more interviews (Franklin)
   + asking for issues would be QA work so perhaps we think about
 usability tests or standardized questionnaires 
   => to be continued


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