[libreoffice-design] Re: Moving to LibreOffice 8?

[Regina Henschel]

Hi Italo,

the change from 6.x to 7.0 happens together with the change from ODF 1.2 
to ODF 1.3. If the decision it to keep this kind of numbering, I think a 
change to 8.0 should happen when LibreOffice starts support for ODF 1.4. 
ODF 1.4 will hopefully be released end of 2024.


Kind regards,
Regina

Italo Vignoli schrieb am 27.03.2023 um 19:11:
Moving to LibreOffice 8 (instead of 7.6) makes sense for marketing 
purposes, as media is looking at LibreOffice as the real innovator in 
the open source office suite market, and the feeling of journalists is 
that we are forever stuck at 7.x.


We all know that the next version will not include any significant 
innovation which can justify the change of version, apart from the new 
build system for Windows and the availability of LibreOffice for Arm 
processors on Windows (which has not been announced).


Playing with the number 8, which can be rotated 90° to become the 
"infinite" symbol, we can frame the next version as LibreOffice for an 
infinite number of users, as we cover all hardware platforms and all 
operating systems for personal productivity.


This is my opinion. If the community wants to stick with 7.6, I won't 
insist. I have received enough insults both public and private for the 
marketing plan, and I am still receiving them from a few people, that I 
am not willing to enter into that process again (even if the decision on 
the "community" tag has not been mine, but it looks like people have a 
very short memory).


Looking forward to your thoughts.



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[libreoffice-design] Agenda for the design/UX meeting 2023-Apr-06 (THU)

[Heiko Tietze]

Hello all,

the design/UX meeting *next week* is

on: Thursday, Apr/06, 14:00 CEST resp. 12pm/noon UTC
at: https://jitsi.documentfoundation.org/design


Here is the agenda:

 * No option to select "Delete Comment" via a letter press in the
   context menu
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154389
   + remove _all_ accelerators from UNO commands?

 * Add option to use approximate/fuzzy string matching to whole
   of dictionary + word completion for more aggressive autocorrection
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125433
   + add option "auto correct typos up to n letter"

 * Improve Calc's Format > Align Text menu's contents and labels
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154410
   + add Default to Left/Right... alignment?

 * FORMATTING: "Keep aspect ratio" checkbox of images or photos
   not always honoured
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=80281
   + check aspect ration by default for images?

 * Change label for .uno:InsertIndexesEntry and label and tooltip
   for .uno:IndexEntryDialog
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=153847


All topics being on the agenda are collected at this list: 
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem=meeting=run_id=32942


The meeting *this week* is on Wednesday Mar/29, the agenda can be found here: 
https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/2023/msg00032.html


Cheers,
Heiko
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Re: [libreoffice-design] Moving to LibreOffice 8?

[Csongor Halmai]

I totally understand Italo's frustration. I also hate when I am expected to make a decision and people, who were absolutely silent and 
indifferent before, suddenly start to verbalise their opinion, which "happens to be" different from mine.


Regarding the version number, I think people who liked 7.x, will continue to like 8.x too. The rest may find the big jump attractive enough 
to try it but I believe most of the articles would emphasize "Hey people, here is the new version but there is nothing remarkably new in 
it". Which erodes the reputation of the product.


Therefore, I second Eyal's suggestion. Let's keep the new major version number 
for something really big jump.


Such a big jump could be an AI integration (like ChatGPT). It could really 
change how people use LO (at least, Writer and Impress)

Csongor






On 28/03/2023 20:43, Italo Vignoli wrote:

I have been asked to provide my opinion by developers, who seem to think that 
the change of version has to be a marketing decision. As I have said quite 
clearly, I am pissed off by the current situation, where I am asked to take a 
decision and then I am blamed because I take one. I leave the decision to the 
community.

28 Mar 2023 08:18:13 Eyal Rozenberg:


I respectfully disagree with Italo.

First, about the "frame of reference". In my opinion, decisions such as major version number 
bumping are not, first and foremost, marketing decisions. That is a _consideration_, since the version number 
is declarative than technical. But - such an action should be "truthful" before being 
"marketable".

It is more important, in my opinion, that users and potential users receive 
trustworthy signaling from the project - not just w.r.t. version numbers, but 
generally - than for the media to get a gimmick for coverage.

A second point is that bumping a version number without a major innovation moves you a 
few more steps into the category of, say, Firefox and such, where versions just increase 
automatically with no meaning whatsoever. Italo, you said we are perceived as a 
"real innovator"; well, when a real innovator starts having hollow version 
number bumping, that perception fades.

Finally, everyone who likes the marketing potential of version 8 - great, but - 
keep that benefit for when we have a significant step forward to celebrate. 
Don't squander it.


Eyal

PS:  availability on a new platform is not a reason to bump a version number. It's the 
"same" software, but built for another target, so same version as before. IMHO 
anyway.



On 27/03/2023 20:11, Italo Vignoli wrote:

Moving to LibreOffice 8 (instead of 7.6) makes sense for marketing purposes, as 
media is looking at LibreOffice as the real innovator in the open source office 
suite market, and the feeling of journalists is that we are forever stuck at 
7.x.
We all know that the next version will not include any significant innovation 
which can justify the change of version, apart from the new build system for 
Windows and the availability of LibreOffice for Arm processors on Windows 
(which has not been announced).
Playing with the number 8, which can be rotated 90° to become the "infinite" 
symbol, we can frame the next version as LibreOffice for an infinite number of users, as 
we cover all hardware platforms and all operating systems for personal productivity.
This is my opinion. If the community wants to stick with 7.6, I won't insist. I have 
received enough insults both public and private for the marketing plan, and I am still 
receiving them from a few people, that I am not willing to enter into that process again 
(even if the decision on the "community" tag has not been mine, but it looks 
like people have a very short memory).
Looking forward to your thoughts.

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Moving to LibreOffice 8?

[Italo Vignoli]

I have been asked to provide my opinion by developers, who seem to think that 
the change of version has to be a marketing decision. As I have said quite 
clearly, I am pissed off by the current situation, where I am asked to take a 
decision and then I am blamed because I take one. I leave the decision to the 
community.

28 Mar 2023 08:18:13 Eyal Rozenberg :

> I respectfully disagree with Italo.
> 
> First, about the "frame of reference". In my opinion, decisions such as major 
> version number bumping are not, first and foremost, marketing decisions. That 
> is a _consideration_, since the version number is declarative than technical. 
> But - such an action should be "truthful" before being "marketable".
> 
> It is more important, in my opinion, that users and potential users receive 
> trustworthy signaling from the project - not just w.r.t. version numbers, but 
> generally - than for the media to get a gimmick for coverage.
> 
> A second point is that bumping a version number without a major innovation 
> moves you a few more steps into the category of, say, Firefox and such, where 
> versions just increase automatically with no meaning whatsoever. Italo, you 
> said we are perceived as a "real innovator"; well, when a real innovator 
> starts having hollow version number bumping, that perception fades.
> 
> Finally, everyone who likes the marketing potential of version 8 - great, but 
> - keep that benefit for when we have a significant step forward to celebrate. 
> Don't squander it.
> 
> 
> Eyal
> 
> PS:  availability on a new platform is not a reason to bump a version number. 
> It's the "same" software, but built for another target, so same version as 
> before. IMHO anyway.
> 
> 
> 
> On 27/03/2023 20:11, Italo Vignoli wrote:
>> Moving to LibreOffice 8 (instead of 7.6) makes sense for marketing purposes, 
>> as media is looking at LibreOffice as the real innovator in the open source 
>> office suite market, and the feeling of journalists is that we are forever 
>> stuck at 7.x.
>> We all know that the next version will not include any significant 
>> innovation which can justify the change of version, apart from the new build 
>> system for Windows and the availability of LibreOffice for Arm processors on 
>> Windows (which has not been announced).
>> Playing with the number 8, which can be rotated 90° to become the "infinite" 
>> symbol, we can frame the next version as LibreOffice for an infinite number 
>> of users, as we cover all hardware platforms and all operating systems for 
>> personal productivity.
>> This is my opinion. If the community wants to stick with 7.6, I won't 
>> insist. I have received enough insults both public and private for the 
>> marketing plan, and I am still receiving them from a few people, that I am 
>> not willing to enter into that process again (even if the decision on the 
>> "community" tag has not been mine, but it looks like people have a very 
>> short memory).
>> Looking forward to your thoughts.
> 
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Re: [libreoffice-design] Fwd: Improve OpenPGP encryption experience

[Heiko Tietze]

Replied directly

On 28.03.23 10:26, Musaab Imran wrote:

-- Forwarded message -
From: Musaab Imran 
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2023 at 16:07
Subject: Improve OpenPGP encryption experience
To: 


Hi I hope you are doing fine.
I wanted to ask you if you can guide me regarding the project " Improve
OpenPGP encryption experience" . What are your requirements and should I
first send the proposal for your review?

Regards
Musaab Imrsn
Cybersecurity Aspirant



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[libreoffice-design] Fwd: Improve OpenPGP encryption experience

[Musaab Imran]

-- Forwarded message -
From: Musaab Imran 
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2023 at 16:07
Subject: Improve OpenPGP encryption experience
To: 


Hi I hope you are doing fine.
I wanted to ask you if you can guide me regarding the project " Improve
OpenPGP encryption experience" . What are your requirements and should I
first send the proposal for your review?

Regards
Musaab Imrsn
Cybersecurity Aspirant

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Moving to LibreOffice 8?

[Eyal Rozenberg]

I respectfully disagree with Italo.

First, about the "frame of reference". In my opinion, decisions such as 
major version number bumping are not, first and foremost, marketing 
decisions. That is a _consideration_, since the version number is 
declarative than technical. But - such an action should be "truthful" 
before being "marketable".


It is more important, in my opinion, that users and potential users 
receive trustworthy signaling from the project - not just w.r.t. version 
numbers, but generally - than for the media to get a gimmick for coverage.


A second point is that bumping a version number without a major 
innovation moves you a few more steps into the category of, say, Firefox 
and such, where versions just increase automatically with no meaning 
whatsoever. Italo, you said we are perceived as a "real innovator"; 
well, when a real innovator starts having hollow version number bumping, 
that perception fades.


Finally, everyone who likes the marketing potential of version 8 - 
great, but - keep that benefit for when we have a significant step 
forward to celebrate. Don't squander it.



Eyal

PS:  availability on a new platform is not a reason to bump a version 
number. It's the "same" software, but built for another target, so same 
version as before. IMHO anyway.




On 27/03/2023 20:11, Italo Vignoli wrote:
Moving to LibreOffice 8 (instead of 7.6) makes sense for marketing 
purposes, as media is looking at LibreOffice as the real innovator in 
the open source office suite market, and the feeling of journalists is 
that we are forever stuck at 7.x.


We all know that the next version will not include any significant 
innovation which can justify the change of version, apart from the new 
build system for Windows and the availability of LibreOffice for Arm 
processors on Windows (which has not been announced).


Playing with the number 8, which can be rotated 90° to become the 
"infinite" symbol, we can frame the next version as LibreOffice for an 
infinite number of users, as we cover all hardware platforms and all 
operating systems for personal productivity.


This is my opinion. If the community wants to stick with 7.6, I won't 
insist. I have received enough insults both public and private for the 
marketing plan, and I am still receiving them from a few people, that I 
am not willing to enter into that process again (even if the decision on 
the "community" tag has not been mine, but it looks like people have a 
very short memory).


Looking forward to your thoughts.


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Re: [libreoffice-design] Moving to LibreOffice 8?

[paul hofseth]

Sirs (& ladies?),

As an ironical kick in the soft underbelly of commercial progams one 
might emphasise that there also are  trivial changes warranting a 
numerical advance.


ExampleS: say that Libre office text now starts with Capitalis 
Quadrata(in the shape of Times new roman) rather than the usual sans 
serif.


OR an equally inconsequential  "improvement". that the first letter of 
the program name now is written with 16point type,


while underlining that unlike other programs that always improves your 
user experience and protects you , it does not disable useful commands 
(or kill communication with your NASboxes) .


p.



Den 27-03-2023 19:11 skreiv Italo Vignoli:
Moving to LibreOffice 8 (instead of 7.6) makes sense for marketing 
purposes, as media is looking at LibreOffice as the real innovator in 
the open source office suite market, and the feeling of journalists is 
that we are forever stuck at 7.x.


We all know that the next version will not include any significant 
innovation which can justify the change of version, apart from the new 
build system for Windows and the availability of LibreOffice for Arm 
processors on Windows (which has not been announced).


Playing with the number 8, which can be rotated 90° to become the 
"infinite" symbol, we can frame the next version as LibreOffice for an 
infinite number of users, as we cover all hardware platforms and all 
operating systems for personal productivity.


This is my opinion. If the community wants to stick with 7.6, I won't 
insist. I have received enough insults both public and private for the 
marketing plan, and I am still receiving them from a few people, that I 
am not willing to enter into that process again (even if the decision 
on the "community" tag has not been mine, but it looks like people have 
a very short memory).


Looking forward to your thoughts.
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Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Moving to LibreOffice 8?

[Franklin Weng]

Hmm, it is a lucky number in Taiwan and China, but I'm not sure if it is 
in other cultures in Asia.  It's lucky number here because it pronounces 
like a word which means "going to be hit/popular", "going to make a lot 
of money" and the like.  But unless we intentionally highlight it, I 
wonder how many people here would really think the version/number "8" in 
that way.



Franklin

Kelvene Requiroso 於 2023/3/28 06:27 寫道:



Culturally, 8 in Asia is a lucky number, signifying prosperity and 
blessing. It might hit a soft spot in the region, which is the world's 
largest market. I like the concept. It fits with the idea of Libre.


By the way, I'm new to the team -- just joined the other day 
electronically.


Kelv

On 2023-03-28 02:20, Nigel Verity wrote:

The ability to run LibreOffice on just about every mainstream 
processor and OS strikes me as a major achievement which ought to be 
shouted from the hilltops. Debian does the same and is known as "The 
universal operating system". Perhaps LO should become known as "The 
universal office suite".


No other office suite comes close in that context. It surely warrants 
something better than a point release.


I like the concept of turning the number 8 on its side, though there 
would inevitably be comments about the concept of "infinity point 
one" when the subsequent release hits the streets..


Nige

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From: Italo Vignoli 
Sent: 27 March 2023 18:11
To: TDF Devs ; TDF Marketing 
; TDF Design 


Subject: [libreoffice-marketing] Moving to LibreOffice 8?

Moving to LibreOffice 8 (instead of 7.6) makes sense for marketing
purposes, as media is looking at LibreOffice as the real innovator in
the open source office suite market, and the feeling of journalists is
that we are forever stuck at 7.x.

We all know that the next version will not include any significant
innovation which can justify the change of version, apart from the new
build system for Windows and the availability of LibreOffice for Arm
processors on Windows (which has not been announced).

Playing with the number 8, which can be rotated 90° to become the
"infinite" symbol, we can frame the next version as LibreOffice for an
infinite number of users, as we cover all hardware platforms and all
operating systems for personal productivity.

This is my opinion. If the community wants to stick with 7.6, I won't
insist. I have received enough insults both public and private for the
marketing plan, and I am still receiving them from a few people, that I
am not willing to enter into that process again (even if the decision on
the "community" tag has not been mine, but it looks like people have a
very short memory).

Looking forward to your thoughts.
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[libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Moving to LibreOffice 8?

[Kelvene Requiroso]

Culturally, 8 in Asia is a lucky number, signifying prosperity and 
blessing. It might hit a soft spot in the region, which is the world's 
largest market. I like the concept. It fits with the idea of Libre.


By the way, I'm new to the team -- just joined the other day 
electronically.


Kelv

On 2023-03-28 02:20, Nigel Verity wrote:

The ability to run LibreOffice on just about every mainstream processor 
and OS strikes me as a major achievement which ought to be shouted from 
the hilltops. Debian does the same and is known as "The universal 
operating system". Perhaps LO should become known as "The universal 
office suite".


No other office suite comes close in that context. It surely warrants 
something better than a point release.


I like the concept of turning the number 8 on its side, though there 
would inevitably be comments about the concept of "infinity point one" 
when the subsequent release hits the streets..


Nige

LibreOffice - Free and open source office suite: LibreOffice 
Website

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From: Italo Vignoli 
Sent: 27 March 2023 18:11
To: TDF Devs ; TDF Marketing 
; TDF Design 


Subject: [libreoffice-marketing] Moving to LibreOffice 8?

Moving to LibreOffice 8 (instead of 7.6) makes sense for marketing
purposes, as media is looking at LibreOffice as the real innovator in
the open source office suite market, and the feeling of journalists is
that we are forever stuck at 7.x.

We all know that the next version will not include any significant
innovation which can justify the change of version, apart from the new
build system for Windows and the availability of LibreOffice for Arm
processors on Windows (which has not been announced).

Playing with the number 8, which can be rotated 90° to become the
"infinite" symbol, we can frame the next version as LibreOffice for an
infinite number of users, as we cover all hardware platforms and all
operating systems for personal productivity.

This is my opinion. If the community wants to stick with 7.6, I won't
insist. I have received enough insults both public and private for the
marketing plan, and I am still receiving them from a few people, that I
am not willing to enter into that process again (even if the decision 
on

the "community" tag has not been mine, but it looks like people have a
very short memory).

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[libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Moving to LibreOffice 8?

[Nigel Verity]

The ability to run LibreOffice on just about every mainstream processor and OS 
strikes me as a major achievement which ought to be shouted from the hilltops. 
Debian does the same and is known as "The universal operating system". Perhaps 
LO should become known as "The universal office suite".

No other office suite comes close in that context. It surely warrants something 
better than a point release.

I like the concept of turning the number 8 on its side, though there would 
inevitably be comments about the concept of "infinity point one" when the 
subsequent release hits the streets..

Nige

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From: Italo Vignoli 
Sent: 27 March 2023 18:11
To: TDF Devs ; TDF Marketing 
; TDF Design 
Subject: [libreoffice-marketing] Moving to LibreOffice 8?

Moving to LibreOffice 8 (instead of 7.6) makes sense for marketing
purposes, as media is looking at LibreOffice as the real innovator in
the open source office suite market, and the feeling of journalists is
that we are forever stuck at 7.x.

We all know that the next version will not include any significant
innovation which can justify the change of version, apart from the new
build system for Windows and the availability of LibreOffice for Arm
processors on Windows (which has not been announced).

Playing with the number 8, which can be rotated 90° to become the
"infinite" symbol, we can frame the next version as LibreOffice for an
infinite number of users, as we cover all hardware platforms and all
operating systems for personal productivity.

This is my opinion. If the community wants to stick with 7.6, I won't
insist. I have received enough insults both public and private for the
marketing plan, and I am still receiving them from a few people, that I
am not willing to enter into that process again (even if the decision on
the "community" tag has not been mine, but it looks like people have a
very short memory).

Looking forward to your thoughts.
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[libreoffice-design] Re: Moving to LibreOffice 8?

[Dr. David Alan Gilbert]

* Italo Vignoli (it...@libreoffice.org) wrote:
> Moving to LibreOffice 8 (instead of 7.6) makes sense for marketing purposes,
> as media is looking at LibreOffice as the real innovator in the open source
> office suite market, and the feeling of journalists is that we are forever
> stuck at 7.x.
> 
> We all know that the next version will not include any significant
> innovation which can justify the change of version, apart from the new build
> system for Windows and the availability of LibreOffice for Arm processors on
> Windows (which has not been announced).

Some time ago, I suggested some cleanups (replacement of sal_Int* types
by their standardised versions).   Someone pointed out at the time it
wasn't possible because it would be an API break, but perhaps we could
do it on a major version bump.  This was when 7.x was young.

So, I'm saying if you are going to bump the major version, it would
benefit from some planning ahead rather than a last minute number change
so that any other incompatibilities people want to tidy up can be put
in.
(Irrespective of whether people like my particular change suggestion)

Dave

> Playing with the number 8, which can be rotated 90° to become the "infinite"
> symbol, we can frame the next version as LibreOffice for an infinite number
> of users, as we cover all hardware platforms and all operating systems for
> personal productivity.
> 
> This is my opinion. If the community wants to stick with 7.6, I won't
> insist. I have received enough insults both public and private for the
> marketing plan, and I am still receiving them from a few people, that I am
> not willing to enter into that process again (even if the decision on the
> "community" tag has not been mine, but it looks like people have a very
> short memory).
> 
> Looking forward to your thoughts.
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> hangout/jabber italo.vign...@gmail.com
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[libreoffice-design] Re: Moving to LibreOffice 8?

[Joao S. O. Bueno]

For little that I am involved with LibreOffice itself,
I feel like this would be  nice move -

You can take this as a non-formal feedback of the
casual user public: +1 for 8.0, even without a lot
of remarkable changes.

On Mon, Mar 27, 2023 at 2:11 PM Italo Vignoli  wrote:

> Moving to LibreOffice 8 (instead of 7.6) makes sense for marketing
> purposes, as media is looking at LibreOffice as the real innovator in
> the open source office suite market, and the feeling of journalists is
> that we are forever stuck at 7.x.
>
> We all know that the next version will not include any significant
> innovation which can justify the change of version, apart from the new
> build system for Windows and the availability of LibreOffice for Arm
> processors on Windows (which has not been announced).
>
> Playing with the number 8, which can be rotated 90° to become the
> "infinite" symbol, we can frame the next version as LibreOffice for an
> infinite number of users, as we cover all hardware platforms and all
> operating systems for personal productivity.
>
> This is my opinion. If the community wants to stick with 7.6, I won't
> insist. I have received enough insults both public and private for the
> marketing plan, and I am still receiving them from a few people, that I
> am not willing to enter into that process again (even if the decision on
> the "community" tag has not been mine, but it looks like people have a
> very short memory).
>
> Looking forward to your thoughts.
> --
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> hangout/jabber italo.vign...@gmail.com
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[libreoffice-design] Moving to LibreOffice 8?

[Italo Vignoli]

Moving to LibreOffice 8 (instead of 7.6) makes sense for marketing 
purposes, as media is looking at LibreOffice as the real innovator in 
the open source office suite market, and the feeling of journalists is 
that we are forever stuck at 7.x.


We all know that the next version will not include any significant 
innovation which can justify the change of version, apart from the new 
build system for Windows and the availability of LibreOffice for Arm 
processors on Windows (which has not been announced).


Playing with the number 8, which can be rotated 90° to become the 
"infinite" symbol, we can frame the next version as LibreOffice for an 
infinite number of users, as we cover all hardware platforms and all 
operating systems for personal productivity.


This is my opinion. If the community wants to stick with 7.6, I won't 
insist. I have received enough insults both public and private for the 
marketing plan, and I am still receiving them from a few people, that I 
am not willing to enter into that process again (even if the decision on 
the "community" tag has not been mine, but it looks like people have a 
very short memory).


Looking forward to your thoughts.
--
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