Re: [libreoffice-design] Status Bar changes
Hi Christoph, all Sorry for replying too late - also this is not the actual reply. But I need to tell something bad... I don't know how, but my notebook's ethernet board just busted, so I'm unable to access Internet from home, but just from University - and my time here will be bery limited until I repare this [big] problem. :-( By now, thank you very very very much for doing these additions and I'll be back with a appropriate reply. I hope soon! :-P -- Paulo José O. Amaro Computer Science student / UFSJ-MG-Brazil Webdesigner / Linked E.J. Design / LibreOffice Blogger / CasaTwain.com 2011/3/16 Christoph Noack christ...@dogmatux.com Hi Paulo, all! Cool - thanks for the excellent stuff :-) I'm trying to add a bit more information for those who might be interested. Am Dienstag, den 15.03.2011, 21:42 -0300 schrieb Paulo José Amaro: By the way, I finally started the wiki page about this: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Writer_Status_Bar_Remaking I've a doubt about the Remaking, so if this word can be replaced by another one more appropriated, don't think twice) I felt free to add a section to the wiki page that deals with: * Specifications that deal with the current status bar items * Help documents that explain the current behavior * Ideas that have been collected within the community (or that I knew of previous discussions with the OOo UX team members) http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Writer_Status_Bar_Remaking#Requirements.2C_Specifications_and_Improvements Maybe this helps to e.g. reconsider some more items being only visible in certain cases. And if not, it nicely shows the complexity of the status bar topic ;-) Being unable to do more (today), that's it. Cheers, Christoph -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-design] Status Bar changes
Hi Paulo, oh, sorry to hear that :-( I hope you'll manage that, although I'm quite sure that this is a really bad situation (especially if it happens when being a student and having limited financial resources). So please let us / me know, whether we can help anyhow ... Cheers, Christoph Am Sonntag, den 20.03.2011, 16:35 -0300 schrieb Paulo José Amaro: Hi Christoph, all Sorry for replying too late - also this is not the actual reply. But I need to tell something bad... I don't know how, but my notebook's ethernet board just busted, so I'm unable to access Internet from home, but just from University - and my time here will be bery limited until I repare this [big] problem. :-( By now, thank you very very very much for doing these additions and I'll be back with a appropriate reply. I hope soon! :-P -- Paulo José O. Amaro Computer Science student / UFSJ-MG-Brazil Webdesigner / Linked E.J. Design / LibreOffice Blogger / CasaTwain.com 2011/3/16 Christoph Noack christ...@dogmatux.com Hi Paulo, all! Cool - thanks for the excellent stuff :-) I'm trying to add a bit more information for those who might be interested. Am Dienstag, den 15.03.2011, 21:42 -0300 schrieb Paulo José Amaro: By the way, I finally started the wiki page about this: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Writer_Status_Bar_Remaking I've a doubt about the Remaking, so if this word can be replaced by another one more appropriated, don't think twice) I felt free to add a section to the wiki page that deals with: * Specifications that deal with the current status bar items * Help documents that explain the current behavior * Ideas that have been collected within the community (or that I knew of previous discussions with the OOo UX team members) http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Writer_Status_Bar_Remaking#Requirements.2C_Specifications_and_Improvements Maybe this helps to e.g. reconsider some more items being only visible in certain cases. And if not, it nicely shows the complexity of the status bar topic ;-) Being unable to do more (today), that's it. Cheers, Christoph -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-design] Status Bar changes
Hi Paulo, all! Cool - thanks for the excellent stuff :-) I'm trying to add a bit more information for those who might be interested. Am Dienstag, den 15.03.2011, 21:42 -0300 schrieb Paulo José Amaro: By the way, I finally started the wiki page about this: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Writer_Status_Bar_Remaking I've a doubt about the Remaking, so if this word can be replaced by another one more appropriated, don't think twice) I felt free to add a section to the wiki page that deals with: * Specifications that deal with the current status bar items * Help documents that explain the current behavior * Ideas that have been collected within the community (or that I knew of previous discussions with the OOo UX team members) http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Writer_Status_Bar_Remaking#Requirements.2C_Specifications_and_Improvements Maybe this helps to e.g. reconsider some more items being only visible in certain cases. And if not, it nicely shows the complexity of the status bar topic ;-) Being unable to do more (today), that's it. Cheers, Christoph -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-design] Status Bar changes
Hi Christoph, all, 2011/3/14 Christoph Noack christ...@dogmatux.com [...] Oh, I have to thank you ... it's pure fun to see that much of the old stuff can be useful (at the end). No doubt it is terrible when great ideas get lost by the times... I'm glad you did restore these icons from the past. Oh, that can be solved. We already have word count functionality in Writer, but it is rather unusable ... it presents the result in a modal dialog. Grrr. Actually? Never mind... (-: So it seems to make the development work to add it to status bar a lot easier! From my point-of-view, it is not required to count the words instantly ... there is no issue in waiting for several hundred milliseconds until we can be sure the user is idling. Concerning the latter, I think most of the time people writing text is spend on thinking but typing. So we just have to make sure that it is clear to the user that the word count is incorrect (if LibO is re-counting). I'm not sure, but I think Word works the same ... Example: black532 Characters (Document)/black ... user starts typing ... gray532 Characters (Document)/gray ... user stops typing ... ... system is re-calculating ... black561 Characters (Document)/black [...] You're right at all. It is not required to do instantly. Actually it could be easy to be implemented, so I'll include it in the step 2 of remaking of Status Bar. It's great! :-D By the way, I finally started the wiki page about this: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Writer_Status_Bar_Remaking I've a doubt about the Remaking, so if this word can be replaced by another one more appropriated, don't think twice) [...] Definitively a god idea, but I think there is no need to hurry. Instead, all, please also support Nik's work on the motif creation (I'm hoping that somebody is compensating my lacking involvement *g*). Oh... I'm not confident about it. I think I'm not the right person to help on the motif task. At least to creating a proposal. But I'm giving my comments and suggestions soon I can. [...] Someone know a easy way to upload the HTML code and change it in a collaborative way (Like Etherpad or Google Docs was to text)? [...] Phew, I don't know ... anybody? So... I did no discovers about how to do that. Then I choosed to use Dropbox, so I can share the folder with everyone that want to help editing the HTML and make proposals, in meantime showing the page to everyone publicly. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5107072/HTML%20mockups/Status-Bar-HTML-Version-Step-1.html Just to remember: It's just HTML and CSS, so if someone could help me with javascript (jQuery if it's possible) to improve menus and mplement state changes, I'll be glad! Now the next step is evaluating Status Bar items. I'll do some user tests here in university to validate the new item arrangement and make it justifiable from UX POV. *Bernhard*, I'd like to ask your help here, if you'll have time. But no hurry at all. :-D Have a great week, Design gentlemen, ~Paulo -- Paulo José O. Amaro Estudante de Ciência da Computação / UFSJ Webdesigner / Linked E.J. Blogueiro / CasaTwain.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-design] Status Bar changes
Hi Christoph, all, Yeah, It's that what I mean by icons replacing text buttons. Much better to my eyes. The icons [1] for the Selecition Mode are actually great. But I can't locate the Inser Mode icon or text. Was you proposing remove it? If yes, I admit to like a lot the idea, since the Insert Mode feedback is given by the Text Indicator (that thing marking the text position, I'm not sure about the name) inline. I just wanna see your Selection Mode in a float menu showed by clicking on the mouse's right button and swithing directly the mode by the mouse's left button click. Great additions! May you give the SVG file of these icons? I know... 3 years are a while, but I had to ask. :-) Cheers, ~Paulo [1] - https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/roouaftqkmja5yR0lALrAA?feat=directlink -- Paulo José O. Amaro Computer Science Student Federal University of São João del-Rei WebDesigner / Linked Empresa Júnior Blogger / casatwain.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
