Re: [libreoffice-design] Weekly design/UX meeting on Jul/26

2017-07-26 Thread kainz.a 
2017-07-26 23:16 GMT+02:00 Heiko Tietze :

> On 26.07.2017 22:49, kainz.a wrote:
> >> * New survey planned about LibreOffice Aspects
>
> > What do you mean with security?
>
> This question is identical to what has been asked in the Github survey.
> This survey is related to Open Source software development where security
> is one of the most important aspects compared to closed and proprietary
> software (users choose Open Source products because of the better
> security). The results would reveal whether or not our users have a
> different view on the Open Source topic.
> I also got asked about replicability (you can use the full source code or
> parts in other projects) and transparency (looking into a function is
> possible). Those terms are of course a challenge for translators.
>
>
Thanks didn't know. So the user group of the survey are end users and you
want to know if they are interested into the same things like system
admins. Interesting question.

thanks for the feedback.
Andreas

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Weekly design/UX meeting on Jul/26

2017-07-26 Thread Heiko Tietze 
On 26.07.2017 22:49, kainz.a wrote:
>> * New survey planned about LibreOffice Aspects

> What do you mean with security?

This question is identical to what has been asked in the Github survey. This 
survey is related to Open Source software development where security is one of 
the most important aspects compared to closed and proprietary software (users 
choose Open Source products because of the better security). The results would 
reveal whether or not our users have a different view on the Open Source topic.
I also got asked about replicability (you can use the full source code or parts 
in other projects) and transparency (looking into a function is possible). 
Those terms are of course a challenge for translators.


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Re: [libreoffice-design] Weekly design/UX meeting on Jul/26

2017-07-26 Thread kainz.a 
Maybe a question about extensions

do you would like to share templates with the community or with authorized
groups (company, friends)

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Weekly design/UX meeting on Jul/26

2017-07-26 Thread kainz.a 
Am 26.07.2017 21:27 schrieb "Heiko Tietze" :

Hello everyone,

we have some topics to discuss tomorrow:

Organization

 * Participation in the design meeting declined
   + one reply on direct emails

 * New survey planned about LibreOffice Aspects



What do you mean with security? Macros are unsecure but users how want to
use them will use them also when they are unsecure.

Compatibility with ms office or between different libreoffice versions.
Eyerybody will say 100% what you can't guarantee on each question. Are open
document files compatible between your used office suites? This would mean
save your files in odt, ... not in docx and say than libreoffice isn't
compatible. MS can open odt files. For me it would be very interested if I
save the office files in odt if the different users can use libreoffice or
ms office and you didn't have to care.

Stability would be interested with the link to the office version. Is
stable really more stable than frash? Again this is also a question to the
devs not the users. Would be nice to have a bit of automated user
statistics.

Technical support is a really good question. Ubuntu start with a lot of
wiki and community support. I use always ubuntuusers.de that's the reason I
didn't want to switch somewhere else and cause I am happy.

3 days ago there was a office 365 article in the newspaper. Everybody talk
about the costs.
http://mobil.derstandard.at/261654137/Office-365-Abo-fuer-Microsoft-nun-lukrativer-als-traditioneller-Office
Our IT company in the work didn't want to support office 365 cause the
cloud office files were stored as backup in the ms cloud. We have big data
security requirements from our clients and than we should writer our
documents on an US server. Does nobody see a security issue only costs?
That's a libreoffice selling point.

what mean innovation. You can also ask do you want an ms clone or should we
find individual solutions. I would love to see innovations but than you
need the manpower. Clone ms functionality need a lot of work.

Trusted producer. What should you learn from that question. Ms ship add
with win 10 you can call it spyware but most users trust ms. Would you like
to ship spyware with libreoffice?

What do you mean with usability. You can ask does libreoffice support your
workflow or something like this.

I don't know a friend or college how use libreoffice so before ask if
someone would ask me the first question would be how many people I know how
use libreoffice.

Fresh, stable, master. Really good question did libreoffice didn't have an
answer which version was regularly updated.

Affiliate what does it mean? Administrator for office, server, ...
Which apps do you use on a regular base, ...
Home, office user, student, ...

Member of document foundation. Link to the benefits.

Windows 7 bis 10 win 10 should be also available.

Andreas

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[libreoffice-design] Weekly design/UX meeting on Jul/26

2017-07-26 Thread Heiko Tietze 
Hello everyone,

we have some topics to discuss tomorrow:

Organization

 * Participation in the design meeting declined
   + one reply on direct emails

 * New survey planned about LibreOffice Aspects
   + preview at https://survey.documentfoundation.org/783768

Tickets

 * Change sidebar deck label 'Properties' to 'Formatting'
   + continuation from last week
   + Attributes no advantage; how about Inkscape's 'Document Properties'

 * New layout in Impress 
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=93087
   + white-space is not bad (Heiko)

 * Switch default to 16:9 in Impress/Draw
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=93244
   + good idea (Heiko), bad idea (Jay)
   + how about a user setting?

 * Width of font name field at Writer's standard toolbar 
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=88542
   + well-designed to fit the total app width; only room for a few pixels
   + possible solutions: tooltip, splitter 
 or WFM since we have a sizeable font selector in the sidebar

 * Terminology for master slides in Impress 
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87592
   + Master Slide (Heiko)
   + code pointers needed?

 * Pivot table, refresh all
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=89530

Hope to see you tomorrow 11am UTC (13:00 CEST) on Jitsi
https://meet.jit.si/LibreOfficeDesign

Cheers,
Heiko

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