Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Template manager
Hi Alex, Alexander Thurgood wrote on 27-07-16 17:30: > On the other hand, obliging business users to change their years-old > workflow to suit the new UI-design paradigm is a big ask, IMHO, and > probably one that most would be disinclined to follow, hence no doubt, > the questions and bug reports raised. Documentation is important indeed.. > Whilst I might agree with you that > potentially affected users could (should) have been implicated from the > start, the fact of the matter is that GSOC projects are not at the heart > of most people's minds when considering evolutions to the LibreOffice > product, which might explain why such considerations weren't raised > during pre-design discussion. Hence it's great that you (& others with business experience) are on this list :) Ciao - Cor -- Cor Nouws GPD key ID: 0xB13480A6 - 591A 30A7 36A0 CE3C 3D28 A038 E49D 7365 B134 80A6 - vrijwilliger http://nl.libreoffice.org - volunteer http://www.libreoffice.org - The Document Foundation Membership Committee Member -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Template manager
Am 27.07.2016 um 17:08 schrieb Cor Nouws: Alexander Thurgood wrote on 27-07-16 16:46: Indeed, to second Regina's point, most businesses working in a Windows (and even on a Linux CIFS share in businesses where I've worked previously) network environment have their templates stored in multiple different folders for the various "activities" or "departments" of that business, and not necessarily all on the same fileshare mountpoint. How will the new template manager layout deal with such a business workflow ? And how will the Sales department know the difference from a ReminderLetter template to that of the same name used by the Accounts department ? I think by creating a "category" with name for department or group or use case. Categories are just folders. So there should be no change. Just the view is different. Apart from that: if that solution fails, it would be _most_ _helpful_ if people with different needs jump in _early_ when all work is discussed. Not with RC3 :) Sure, the concept is there for months, and we discussed this in each weeks Design Hangout while Akshay was working on it. So things that come up now can only go into 5.3, not 5.2. Samuel -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Template manager
Am 27.07.2016 um 16:47 schrieb Alexander Thurgood: Indeed, to second Regina's point, most businesses working in a Windows (and even on a Linux CIFS share in businesses where I've worked previously) network environment have their templates stored in multiple different folders for the various "activities" or "departments" of that business, and not necessarily all on the same fileshare mountpoint. How will the new template manager layout deal with such a business workflow ? And how will the Sales department know the difference from a ReminderLetter template to that of the same name used by the Accounts department ? The folders are shown as categories (on the top right), and you can filter by category so that only templates from the selected category are shown. Maybe there is some confusion about Template Manager and the Templates view in the start center. What I'm talking about is the Template Manager. Samuel -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Template manager
Am 27.07.2016 um 17:39 schrieb Alexander Thurgood: Sure, in fact, I don't particularly have an issue for myself, as long as I can understand what is going on, and I personally actually quite like the current UI design and functionality better than the previous embodiment, so kudos to the GSOC project and developers for making it happen. It just takes some getting used to and of course, a link explaining how all of this now works would be most handy. If such a link has already been provided, then fair enough. This is what we have currently: https://akkidevblog.wordpress.com/2016/07/23/redesigning-the-template-manager/ Akshay also promised to write something up to be included in the help. Samuel -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Template manager
Hi Cor, Cor Nouws schrieb: Apart from that: if that solution fails, it would be _most_ _helpful_ if people with different needs jump in _early_ when all work is discussed. Not with RC3 :) But the question, why a feature, which is not finished till feature freeze, is allowed to go into the branch, is valid as well. Not to be misinterpreted, Akshay Deep does a great job, the new template manager is a large improvement and I'm happy that it is included in 5.2. Kind regards Regina -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Template manager
Alexander Thurgood wrote on 27-07-16 16:46: > Indeed, to second Regina's point, most businesses working in a Windows > (and even on a Linux CIFS share in businesses where I've worked > previously) network environment have their templates stored in multiple > different folders for the various "activities" or "departments" of that > business, and not necessarily all on the same fileshare mountpoint. How > will the new template manager layout deal with such a business workflow > ? And how will the Sales department know the difference from a > ReminderLetter template to that of the same name used by the Accounts > department ? I think by creating a "category" with name for department or group or use case. Apart from that: if that solution fails, it would be _most_ _helpful_ if people with different needs jump in _early_ when all work is discussed. Not with RC3 :) Ciao - Cor -- Cor Nouws GPD key ID: 0xB13480A6 - 591A 30A7 36A0 CE3C 3D28 A038 E49D 7365 B134 80A6 - vrijwilliger http://nl.libreoffice.org - volunteer http://www.libreoffice.org - The Document Foundation Membership Committee Member -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
