[Bug 46801] Re: Bad close icon
** Changed in: gedit Importance: Unknown = Medium -- Bad close icon https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/46801 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 46801] Re: Bad close icon
Yes except for the fact that it is still ugly ;). This bug can be closed I think. -- Bad close icon https://launchpad.net/bugs/46801 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 46801] Re: Bad close icon
I think this problem is now solved for GEdit and other applications. ** Changed in: ubuntu-artwork (Ubuntu) Assignee: Obsolete = Frank Schoep Status: Confirmed = Fix Released -- Bad close icon https://launchpad.net/bugs/46801 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 46801] Re: Bad close icon
** Changed in: ubuntu-artwork (Ubuntu) Sourcepackagename: ubuntu-artwork = human-icon-theme -- Bad close icon https://launchpad.net/bugs/46801 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 46801] Re: Bad close icon
** Changed in: gedit (upstream) Status: Confirmed = Fix Released -- Bad close icon https://launchpad.net/bugs/46801 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 46801] Re: Bad close icon
the close button seems nice and easy to spot with the new orange X. it has to match orange human and to be easy to differentiate for an less important button. -- Bad close icon https://launchpad.net/bugs/46801 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 46801] Re: Bad close icon
** Attachment added: gaim, gedit, gnome-terminal http://librarian.launchpad.net/3005992/icons-shot.png -- Bad close icon https://launchpad.net/bugs/46801 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 46801] Re: Bad close icon
My bad, I've only just noticed that the dialog's cancel is an undo arrow (so gaim is right)... Well, in evolution cancel is a white cross on a circle... And the delete is still a forbidden sign. Is this the final artwork? -- Bad close icon https://launchpad.net/bugs/46801 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 46801] Re: Bad close icon
Must be as it is now T-5.25 hours. -- Bad close icon https://launchpad.net/bugs/46801 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 46801] Re: Bad close icon
I don't know about in the engine but not in the theme. Also, disregard my first solution above about 2 pixels. Looks like solution #2 is the quickest fix to make dapper. -- Bad close icon https://launchpad.net/bugs/46801 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 46801] Re: Bad close icon
That would require patching a bunch of apps. Plus, Firefox 2.0 will have close buttons per tab (to be more like every other tabbed interface, and less oops-prone), so we'd be going backwards. -- Bad close icon https://launchpad.net/bugs/46801 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 46801] Re: Bad close icon
I think we should roll that change back for dapper, it will require to patch some apps to look good. Note also than the stock close button (used by the theme manager by example) really looks weird with an orange square like that -- Bad close icon https://launchpad.net/bugs/46801 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 46801] Re: Bad close icon
Yeah, assigning this to the art team will take a few days. Rolling it back will allow for a faster short-term solution. -- Bad close icon https://launchpad.net/bugs/46801 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 46801] Re: Bad close icon
If it is possible what Mark Shuttleworth says, that would for now be the best solution. Make suitable 8x8 or 12x12 variants of the close icon. Although I am not sure these will be used automatically on the tabs. I agree with Jeff Waugh that effort has to be made to get this tab close button issue fixed and standardized. Now is not the best time to discuss wether to use close buttons per tab or just a single one. We should be focusing on how to fix this issue before the upcoming release this Thursday. Discussions about what would be the best for usable need to bee posponed untill after the release of Dapper. I think. -- Bad close icon https://launchpad.net/bugs/46801 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 46801] Re: [Bug 46801] Re: Bad close icon
Jeff Waugh wrote: That would require patching a bunch of apps. Plus, Firefox 2.0 will have close buttons per tab (to be more like every other tabbed interface, and less oops-prone), so we'd be going backwards. This destroys muscle memory because you have to move the mouse to a different location to close a tab. All good tab systems allow you to middle click on a tab to close it directly. Take it from me, we will standardise for all tab apps on one common behaviour, and my starting point will be having the [x] close tab icon to the right on the tab bar, as FF does it in 1.5. If we are consistent for ALL tabbed apps in Ubuntu/Kubuntu then we will be well ahead of everybody else. For this release I did try to get them all onto the same shortcuts for new tab, close tab, tab left, tab right, and move-tab-left and move-tab-right. Kubuntu was pretty close to successful, but I don't think seb got Ubuntu done. Mark -- Bad close icon https://launchpad.net/bugs/46801 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 46801] Re: Bad close icon
Ok, I'll try to be as clear as I can at the cost of repeating myself. Providing smaller icons will not fix the bug without patching the apps. The workaround used by some apps to avoid the cropping it's a hack that involves overriding the default padding around the icon done by the theme. This fixes the cropping, but breaks other themes and that's why it wasn't integrated upstream in other programs. Moving to have a single close button out of the tabs (ala firefox) is out of the scope of this bug and definately can not be considered in the current timeframe. Given the above it's a fact that apps will keep the close button on the tabs right now, so the solution for this bug should take into account that even with the cropping issue solved a colorful orange button on every tab is very distracting and annoying. I really think that the solution right now should be going back to the old icon or design a new one similar to the old one with sober color. -- Bad close icon https://launchpad.net/bugs/46801 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 46801] Re: Bad close icon
I've just tried the updated package from Daniel with the new variants for that icon, it looks better for epiphany but it's still an issue for: - gaim - gedit - libnotify and every app using a stock close button (theme manager, synaptic, ) which have an orange square to a button which looks really weird -- Bad close icon https://launchpad.net/bugs/46801 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 46801] Re: Bad close icon
Mark, about the shortcut to change tabs it's not doable without breaking other feature as replied before, that's why it has not be done by upstream nor for dapper. We could force the change, but I'm not sure users and upstream are going to like having GTK inconsistant between the different distributions and between the different versions of Ubuntu. Anyway that's not the topic of that bug ... -- Bad close icon https://launchpad.net/bugs/46801 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 46801] Re: Bad close icon
Although it continues not being the topic of this bug, I want to comment on the per-tab/single close button. Isn't a thing as close button functionality on tabs something that needs to be put in GTK? I think delivering a tab widget with either close buttons per tab, or just a single one (make it a setting of the widget perhaps, or a user settable option for all tabwidgets, just like text or no text beneath toolbar icons) is something to be done by the toolkit, not the application itself. Reverting back to the old one is the best option for now I think. -- Bad close icon https://launchpad.net/bugs/46801 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 46801] Re: Bad close icon
** Attachment added: screenshot http://librarian.launchpad.net/2953973/Bildschirmfoto2.png -- Bad close icon https://launchpad.net/bugs/46801 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 46801] Re: Bad close icon
** Bug 47128 has been marked a duplicate of this bug ** Bug 47123 has been marked a duplicate of this bug -- Bad close icon https://launchpad.net/bugs/46801 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 46801] Re: Bad close icon
There is nothing unusual going on here. The reason you do not see this with other icon themes is because they do not make the gtk-close icon a button. I have no real preference on whether or not it is a button. The problem can usually be fixed adjusting the x and y thickness in the gtk theme, but as stated, not in 'looks'. 1. put 2 pixels of transparency between the icon and the icon border 2. go back to an X -- Bad close icon https://launchpad.net/bugs/46801 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 46801] Re: Bad close icon
Maybe a orange X would be best, with no background. This means that the X bit might be smaller in some tabs, but would look better than this one. -- Bad close icon https://launchpad.net/bugs/46801 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 46801] Re: Bad close icon
Maybe a orange X would be best, with no background. This means that the X bit might be smaller in some tabs, but would look better than this one. -- Bad close icon https://launchpad.net/bugs/46801 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 46801] Re: Bad close icon
In the comment from the connected gnome bug report a fix is suggested: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=318461#c11 Can't this be done in Human? Why a 2005 bug's still around? :( -- Bad close icon https://launchpad.net/bugs/46801 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 46801] Re: Bad close icon
note that there is an upstream gedit bug for the icon cropping (http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=318461), however the workarounds in that bug are not applied upstream because they either break other themes or make the tabs too big. Even if the cropping issue gets resolved I find unfortunate and annoying having an orange dot on every tab of gedit, epiphany, gnome-terminal and so on. -- Bad close icon https://launchpad.net/bugs/46801 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 46801] Re: Bad close icon
It is true that (in gedit as well), the cropping of the close icon on the tabs is not a new problem. (I just looked at the old gnome cross in gedit: it is indeed cropped the same way.) But the new icon really exposes this old bug in a bad way. With the old cross, you need picky eyes to care about it. With the new close icon, it jumps out at you. This change was made after RC 1, and seems like a negative step as far as the fit and polish of dapper is concerned. -- Bad close icon https://launchpad.net/bugs/46801 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 46801] Re: Bad close icon
** Bug 46863 has been marked a duplicate of this bug ** Bug 46866 has been marked a duplicate of this bug -- Bad close icon https://launchpad.net/bugs/46801 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 46801] Re: Bad close icon
Maybe it is now the time to fix this cropping and maybe forward this to the GNOME dev team and tell them to fix this so other distributions will not have this problem (As if they don't know already, LOL). -- Bad close icon https://launchpad.net/bugs/46801 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 46801] Re: Bad close icon
It's definately ugly, awkward, and doesn't fit in the UIs, IMHO. No offense to the designers. Here's a thread (with screenshots) I made about it on the forums: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=183261 -- Bad close icon https://launchpad.net/bugs/46801 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 46801] Re: Bad close icon
Confirming and assigning to the artwork team. ** Changed in: ubuntu-artwork (Ubuntu) Assignee: (unassigned) = Ubuntu Artwork Status: Unconfirmed = Confirmed -- Bad close icon https://launchpad.net/bugs/46801 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 46801] Re: Bad close icon
Confirming and assigning to the artwork team. This means that a fix will be on the way soon? -- Bad close icon https://launchpad.net/bugs/46801 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 46801] Re: [Bug 46801] Re: Bad close icon
I suspect someone will attempt to kill it. I have tried to bring it to attention of the folks who are in a position to change it. It is apparently an issue with GTK related items, so filing a bug there might help. On Sun, 2006-28-05 at 05:18 +, theLastGnu wrote: Confirming and assigning to the artwork team. This means that a fix will be on the way soon? -- Bad close icon https://launchpad.net/bugs/46801 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 46801] Re: Bad close icon
Mannheim, thanks for posting a screenshot, and I share your opinion on the regular Close button. -- Bad close icon https://launchpad.net/bugs/46801 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 46801] Re: Bad close icon
Another example is in gaim's tabs, here is a screenshot of what I mean http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/7139/display2kf.png -- Bad close icon https://launchpad.net/bugs/46801 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 46801] Re: Bad close icon
** Attachment added: Screenshot of Epiphany Tabs http://librarian.launchpad.net/2939128/epiphany-tabs.png -- Bad close icon https://launchpad.net/bugs/46801 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 46801] Re: Bad close icon
This is a really old problem. The old GNOME cross was cropped for sure in my GAIM windows. Perhaps this should be a scalable icon? (The right answer, of course, would be for app developers to actually give this icon the space it needs in GTK ui's...) -- Bad close icon https://launchpad.net/bugs/46801 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 46801] Re: Bad close icon
GonzO, I noticed the X has always been a little bit to small on the tabs of some applications. But with this one it is really obvious and ugly. -- Bad close icon https://launchpad.net/bugs/46801 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 46801] Re: Bad close icon
It doesn't scale too well with gnome-terminal either when there's multiple tabs open. -- Bad close icon https://launchpad.net/bugs/46801 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
