Re: GNOME Showstopper Review; 2.30 and 3.0

2010-03-15 Thread Martyn Russell

On 14/03/10 13:33, Andre Klapper wrote:

Hi,

GNOME 2.30.0 will be released on March 29th.
See http://live.gnome.org/Schedule .

Better late than never a quick list of potential GNOME 2.30 blockers
according to Bugzilla (missing any comments - sorry, no time here).
Not necessarily complete. Feedback, updates, help are welcome.

Please do speak up if there are important bugs that are not listed here.

(Note that Hardcode Freeze starts this Monday at 23:59 UTC.)




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NAUTILUS
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nautilus flips out when show_desktop is unchecked
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=571417

tracker: return more meaningful results (no fulltext search)
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=612725


I will try to take care of this ASAP.

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Re: Platform for Developer Documentation

2010-03-15 Thread Daniel Espinosa
I think GDA must be considered, as a developer platform, because
Anjuta depends on it. I think other projects may can take advantage of
its features to save metadata, documents, history, etc. on database
engines and share with others by using central servers or so.

2010/3/8 Alberto Ruiz ar...@gnome.org:
 2010/3/8 Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org:
 Le dimanche 07 mars 2010 à 15:16 -0600, Shaun McCance a écrit :
 * PackageKit

 I don’t think we should consider PackageKit as a core development
 interface, but rather as an optional service. It doesn’t integrate
 properly with all distributions, and not all user setups make it useful,
 especially the largest installations.

 Release often, release early. The only way to improve support is to
 embrace it and push its adoption and get people to file bugs.

 * PulseAudio

 Maybe it’s (still) a little too early to consider it? Support for a wide
 range of hardware is still very poor as of kernel 2.6.32.

 Same here.

 I'm growing a bit sick of GNOME having to be in this limbo situation
 where it can't stick to any technology because downstream
 distributions choose not to ship some components by default.

 PackageKit and PulseAudio are two projects that are pretty well
 aligned with the GNOME platform in terms of API technology and goals,
 they solve hard problems to solve, they don't have any real contenders
 (yes they have problems, but if we wait until they are perfect, we
 will never have a platform).

 So my take on this is, embrace those, help downstream to embrace them,
 but let's not hold back or we will end up with a half arsed platform
 that tries to solve everyone's problems and will end up solving no
 one's.

 Furthermore, if you want to consider hardware support, maybe you can
 talk about GUdev? It’s still Linux-specific, but currently it is the way
 to go.

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How to make GNOME better for Netbooks?

2010-03-15 Thread Valent Turkovic
Hi, I'm looking how to make GNOME better for users of small screen
Netbooks (7). I have numerous users with7 screen netbooks and stock
GNOME is almost unusable on such a system, that is why I'm looking for
some help to make the GNOME experience on such systems better.

Is there any work being done on making Notification Area applet
better? I found http://live.gnome.org/AlternativeNotificationsUI but
last comment there is back from 2008, it this project dead? Is there
any alternative to Notification Area that makes hiding some icons
possible?

Some users have pointed at an alternative to Windows list applet
called DockbarX, and from what I have seen it looks promising.

Do you have some examples and guidelines how to customize GNOME for Netbooks?

Thank you in advance for your help and suggestions.

Valent.

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Re: GtkNotebook scrolling usability

2010-03-15 Thread Christian Dywan
Am Wed, 10 Mar 2010 16:50:04 -0600
schrieb Cody Russell brats...@gnome.org:

 So, right now GtkNotebook allows you to change tabs by using the mouse
 wheel.  Once I noticed this and the more I thought about it, it really
 seems like a terrible feature and one that may be detrimental to
 usability.
 
 I talked to Matthias briefly on irc, and he seemed to agree.  He
 suggested that maybe there's a use for it in the case that you have a
 ton of notebook tabs open, but I'm not quite convinced.  Just wanted
 to post on the lists and see if people have thoughts on this,
 otherwise I'm probably going to file a patch to either rip the
 feature out or at the very least make it so we can disable it. :)
 
 / Cody

Using the mouse wheel that way in a web browser or text editor is a
very convenient feature. It is much quicker than having to move the
pointer to one of the sides only to switch tabs.

Please don't break it just because you never used it :-)

Regards,
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Re: Reminder : do NOT hardcode deprecation flags in tarball / new tarballs NEEDED

2010-03-15 Thread Luca Ferretti
Il giorno mer, 10/03/2010 alle 19.05 +0100, Frederic Crozat ha scritto:
 
  Well, I'm currently strugling with smoketesting GNOME 2.29.5 release and
  there are some tarballs no longer building because new G_SEAL
  deprecation were added in yesterday GTK+ 2.19.3 release and some modules
  were not fixed for this.
 

A secondary reminder: please also note that due to recent deprecation of
some GTK_WIDGET_* macros in GTK+, you'll have to use *new* functions
(such as gtk_widget_get_realized or get_mapped) and then increase
GTK_REQUIRED in configure.in to 2.19.7 too.

Cheers, Luca

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Re: GNOME Showstopper Review; 2.30 and 3.0

2010-03-15 Thread Oliver Joos
Hi!

On Sunday, 14.03.2010, 14:33 +0100 Andre Klapper wrote:
 Better late than never a quick list of potential GNOME 2.30 blockers
 according to Bugzilla (missing any comments - sorry, no time here).
 Not necessarily complete. Feedback, updates, help are welcome.
 
 Please do speak up if there are important bugs that are not listed here.
 
 (Note that Hardcode Freeze starts this Monday at 23:59 UTC.)

I'd like to add https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=496536
about Window borders are too small, making it difficult to resize

This bug is quite old and obvious for many users. Apps like
gnome-terminal do not have an extra resize corner. And the
netbook-friendly themes of next Ubuntu release have vertical borders
with a visual width of only *one* pixel - nearly impossible to grab
using a touchpad. (see also https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311)

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Libwnck signals

2010-03-15 Thread Nischal Rao
Hi,

Can anybody please tell me how to handle signals for Libwnck? The
documentation for Libwnck doesn't have any info on this.

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Libwnck signals

2010-03-15 Thread Vincent Untz
Le lundi 15 mars 2010, à 18:38 +0530, Nischal Rao a écrit :
 Hi,
 
 Can anybody please tell me how to handle signals for Libwnck? The
 documentation for Libwnck doesn't have any info on this.

Can you clarify? It's just standard signals, so you should use the usual
GObject mechanisms to connect to them:
 http://library.gnome.org/devel/gobject/stable/signal.html
 
http://library.gnome.org/devel/gobject/stable/gobject-Signals.html#g-signal-connect

Cheers,

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Re: Libwnck signals

2010-03-15 Thread Nischal Rao
As I said earlier, I am new to developing gnome based applications.
Essentially I needed to know how signal handling is done in gnome. Thanks
for the links. It helped me... :)

On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 6:58 PM, Vincent Untz vu...@gnome.org wrote:

 Le lundi 15 mars 2010, à 18:38 +0530, Nischal Rao a écrit :
  Hi,
 
  Can anybody please tell me how to handle signals for Libwnck? The
  documentation for Libwnck doesn't have any info on this.

 Can you clarify? It's just standard signals, so you should use the usual
 GObject mechanisms to connect to them:
  http://library.gnome.org/devel/gobject/stable/signal.html

 http://library.gnome.org/devel/gobject/stable/gobject-Signals.html#g-signal-connect

 Cheers,

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FWD: App maintainers: Please double check StartupNotify=true in your desktop files

2010-03-15 Thread Colin Walters
Hi,

Basically, please double check that your app has StartupNotify=true in
your .desktop file.  If it
doesn't, it's almost certainly a bug.

See original posting here:
http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2010-March/133523.html
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