Re: Spinach Con at GUADEC

2019-08-14 Thread Sriram Ramkrishna
Leave it to me to screw up dates.. even though I check it. The dates
are on  Tuesday 8/27, not Monday. Sorry about that.

On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 10:33 PM Sriram Ramkrishna  wrote:
>
> Just wanted to let all of you know that at GUADEC - on Monday 8/26 we
> will be having SpinachCon, if you have a project that you would like
> to have user feedback on, this will be an opportunity to have it at
> GUADEC!
>
> You can reach out to Deb Nicholson, (mail me and I'll give you her
> email address) I'll be posting this on discourse as well, so you can
> answer there.
>
> Thanks for your time!
> sri
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Spinach Con at GUADEC

2019-08-14 Thread Sriram Ramkrishna
Just wanted to let all of you know that at GUADEC - on Monday 8/26 we
will be having SpinachCon, if you have a project that you would like
to have user feedback on, this will be an opportunity to have it at
GUADEC!

You can reach out to Deb Nicholson, (mail me and I'll give you her
email address) I'll be posting this on discourse as well, so you can
answer there.

Thanks for your time!
sri
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Re: Missing releases and state of 3.33.90

2019-08-14 Thread Mart Raudsepp via desktop-devel-list
Ühel kenal päeval, T, 13.08.2019 kell 23:11, kirjutas Florian Müllner:
> Hi,
> 
> On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 8:24 PM Olav Vitters  wrote:
> > Further, gnome-shell 3.33.90 incorporates an gnome-desktop API/ABI
> > (?)
> > change, but it doesn't actually check that gnome-desktop is new
> > enough.
> 
> That is because gnome-desktop is only required at runtime (via
> gobject-introspection) and not at build time.
> 
> If it is an issue, we can either
>  - add a version check to the build dependency in mutter
>  - start to add runtime checks á la
> "imports.package.requireSymbol('GnomeDesktop', '3.0',
> 'BGSlideShow.file');"

Perhaps at least a list of dependencies in README? Even if that says
"The build system checks for dependencies needed at build time, please
look there for those. Additionally at runtime the following
dependencies are used:
* >=gnome-desktop-3.33.3
* >=foo-bar-4 (optional)"


Mart


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Re: Missing releases and state of 3.33.90

2019-08-14 Thread Ray Strode via desktop-devel-list
hey,

On Wed, Aug 14, 2019, 4:23 PM Olav Vitters  wrote:

> Ah!! I thought it was intentional (more testing needed or something) as
> usually release team would chase as well. I didn't expect it just to be
> forgotten, else I would not have used d-d-l. Sorry for possibly being
> impolite.
>
it wasn't forgotton, but it was very late and i wasnt giving it the
priority i should have... so your email was good..

Ray

>
>
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Re: Missing releases and state of 3.33.90

2019-08-14 Thread Olav Vitters
On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 02:40:19PM -0400, Ray Strode via desktop-devel-list 
wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 13, 2019, 2:24 PM Olav Vitters  wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > I had various issues packaging GNOME 3.33.90. It seems that there's
> > various modules which haven't made a release, e.g.:
> > - no gdm 3.33.90
> > - no gnome-session 3.33.90
> >
> sorry,  will do them.

Ah!! I thought it was intentional (more testing needed or something) as
usually release team would chase as well. I didn't expect it just to be
forgotten, else I would not have used d-d-l. Sorry for possibly being
impolite.

Many thanks.

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Olav
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Re: Proposal: earlier tarball deadlines

2019-08-14 Thread Arnaud Bonatti via desktop-devel-list
Hi,

Le mercredi 14 août 2019,  a écrit :
>
> Please, if you have any concerns, let us know. Also let us know if you
> have a preference between Friday and Saturday. Remember that the deadline
> still occurs at 23:59 UTC on the day specified.
>

I’d clearly prefer on Saturday than on Friday. Releasing needs a clear
mind, something that I do not all the time have on Friday night (or any
other day before).

Regards,
Arnaud


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Proposal: earlier tarball deadlines

2019-08-14 Thread mcatanzaro

Hi,

I'd like to propose moving tarball deadlines for the 3.36 cycle one 
business day earlier, from Mondays to Fridays, while leaving the 
overall release deadline on Wednesday. That way, we can have the 
weekend for trying to build the release. This will allow release team 
more time to resolve build failures, hopefully making the job less 
stressful for us. It should also help us avoid late releases. Currently 
we're not able to begin building the release before Monday night 
(American timezones) or Tuesday morning (European timezones), which has 
led to several late releases on Thursday, Friday, and occasionally even 
later. Managing a release is usually a full-day task at least, and 
doing this on business days is very difficult for some of us. There's 
some more motivation for this discussed at [1].


An alternative proposal would be to use Saturday instead of Friday as 
the tarball deadline, which might be nicer for maintainers who prefer 
to release over the weekend. That would still allow release team to 
build the release on Sunday.


Please, if you have any concerns, let us know. Also let us know if you 
have a preference between Friday and Saturday. Remember that the 
deadline still occurs at 23:59 UTC on the day specified.


Michael

[1] https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-build-meta/issues/131


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