Re: GNOME 3.13.2
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 01:33:11PM -0400, Jasper St. Pierre wrote: I have made systemd optional in mutter: https://git.gnome.org/browse/mutter/commit/?id=806a66695077672c6848dd14c6a55781c27ba0e6 This disables the build of our native backend based on KMS, but Wayland support is still there in the X11 nested backend. Wayland is still a hard-dependency, and currently Wayland hasn't been ported to other systems yet. I am still planning on making Wayland optional at some point before the 3.14 release. Our Wayland native implementation will not be portable to non-systemd systems, Linux or otherwise. The way I would port things is to port Weston to other systems first, and then add a wl_fullscreen_shell backend to mutter, which will allow us to run mutter nested under Weston. Could you write this up on wiki.gnome.org and link it from https://wiki.gnome.org/PortabilityMatrix? I think it would be good to already have some basic thoughts on there, even if some things aren't yet known or subject to change. We could mention on the page that things are still changing. Once done, we can announce to distributor-list. Meaning: Don't spend too much time on it, but good to already inform anyone who might not follow GNOME dev that we'd appreciate them working on porting Weston, etc. -- Regards, Olav ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: GNOME 3.13.2
On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 7:25 AM, Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl wrote: Could you write this up on wiki.gnome.org and link it from https://wiki.gnome.org/PortabilityMatrix? I think it would be good to already have some basic thoughts on there, even if some things aren't yet known or subject to change. We could mention on the page that things are still changing. Once done, we can announce to distributor-list. Meaning: Don't spend too much time on it, but good to already inform anyone who might not follow GNOME dev that we'd appreciate them working on porting Weston, etc. I've added a line to the portability matrix, for mutter wayland support ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: GNOME 3.13.2
於 西元2014年05月29日 07:09, Javier Jardón 提到: The second release of the GNOME 3.14 development cycle is here. See [1] for the new features that have been proposed for this cycle. To compile GNOME 3.13.2, you can use the jhbuild [2] modulesets [3] (which use the exact tarball versions from the official release). Note that as part of Wayland development, 3.13.2 temporarily depends on systemd. This is needed because Wayland support in GNOME depends on systemd, but before 3.14 is released Wayland support will be made optional. When will Wayland and systemd dependencies become optional? This have caused mutter and gnome-shell fail to build on FreeBSD. [1] https://wiki.gnome.org/ThreePointThirteen/Features/ [2] http://library.gnome.org/devel/jhbuild/ [3] http://download.gnome.org/teams/releng/3.13.2/ The release notes that describe the changes between 3.13.1 and 3.13.2 are available. Go read them to learn what's new in this release: core - http://download.gnome.org/core/3.13/3.13.2/NEWS apps - http://download.gnome.org/apps/3.13/3.13.2/NEWS The GNOME 3.13.2 release itself is available here: core sources - http://download.gnome.org/core/3.13/3.13.2 apps sources - http://download.gnome.org/apps/3.13/3.13.2 WARNING! WARNING! WARNING! -- This release is a snapshot of early development code. Although it is buildable and usable, it is primarily intended for testing and hacking purposes. GNOME uses odd minor version numbers to indicate development status. For more information about 3.13, the full schedule, the official module lists and the proposed module lists, please see our colorful 3.13 page: http://www.gnome.org/start/unstable For a quick overview of the GNOME schedule, please see: http://live.gnome.org/Schedule Enjoy, Javier Jardón Cabezas GNOME Release Team ___ gnome-announce-list mailing list gnome-announce-l...@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-announce-list ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: GNOME 3.13.2
I will make Wayland optional at some point before 3.14. I can't make any promises beyond that. On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 7:28 AM, 藍挺瑋 lant...@gmail.com wrote: 於 西元2014年05月29日 07:09, Javier Jardón 提到: The second release of the GNOME 3.14 development cycle is here. See [1] for the new features that have been proposed for this cycle. To compile GNOME 3.13.2, you can use the jhbuild [2] modulesets [3] (which use the exact tarball versions from the official release). Note that as part of Wayland development, 3.13.2 temporarily depends on systemd. This is needed because Wayland support in GNOME depends on systemd, but before 3.14 is released Wayland support will be made optional. When will Wayland and systemd dependencies become optional? This have caused mutter and gnome-shell fail to build on FreeBSD. [1] https://wiki.gnome.org/ThreePointThirteen/Features/ [2] http://library.gnome.org/devel/jhbuild/ [3] http://download.gnome.org/teams/releng/3.13.2/ The release notes that describe the changes between 3.13.1 and 3.13.2 are available. Go read them to learn what's new in this release: core - http://download.gnome.org/core/3.13/3.13.2/NEWS apps - http://download.gnome.org/apps/3.13/3.13.2/NEWS The GNOME 3.13.2 release itself is available here: core sources - http://download.gnome.org/core/3.13/3.13.2 apps sources - http://download.gnome.org/apps/3.13/3.13.2 WARNING! WARNING! WARNING! -- This release is a snapshot of early development code. Although it is buildable and usable, it is primarily intended for testing and hacking purposes. GNOME uses odd minor version numbers to indicate development status. For more information about 3.13, the full schedule, the official module lists and the proposed module lists, please see our colorful 3.13 page: http://www.gnome.org/start/unstable For a quick overview of the GNOME schedule, please see: http://live.gnome.org/Schedule Enjoy, Javier Jardón Cabezas GNOME Release Team ___ gnome-announce-list mailing list gnome-announce-l...@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-announce-list ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list -- Jasper ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: GNOME 3.13.2
I have made systemd optional in mutter: https://git.gnome.org/browse/mutter/commit/?id=806a66695077672c6848dd14c6a55781c27ba0e6 This disables the build of our native backend based on KMS, but Wayland support is still there in the X11 nested backend. Wayland is still a hard-dependency, and currently Wayland hasn't been ported to other systems yet. I am still planning on making Wayland optional at some point before the 3.14 release. Our Wayland native implementation will not be portable to non-systemd systems, Linux or otherwise. The way I would port things is to port Weston to other systems first, and then add a wl_fullscreen_shell backend to mutter, which will allow us to run mutter nested under Weston. On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 7:44 AM, Jasper St. Pierre jstpie...@mecheye.net wrote: I will make Wayland optional at some point before 3.14. I can't make any promises beyond that. On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 7:28 AM, 藍挺瑋 lant...@gmail.com wrote: 於 西元2014年05月29日 07:09, Javier Jardón 提到: The second release of the GNOME 3.14 development cycle is here. See [1] for the new features that have been proposed for this cycle. To compile GNOME 3.13.2, you can use the jhbuild [2] modulesets [3] (which use the exact tarball versions from the official release). Note that as part of Wayland development, 3.13.2 temporarily depends on systemd. This is needed because Wayland support in GNOME depends on systemd, but before 3.14 is released Wayland support will be made optional. When will Wayland and systemd dependencies become optional? This have caused mutter and gnome-shell fail to build on FreeBSD. [1] https://wiki.gnome.org/ThreePointThirteen/Features/ [2] http://library.gnome.org/devel/jhbuild/ [3] http://download.gnome.org/teams/releng/3.13.2/ The release notes that describe the changes between 3.13.1 and 3.13.2 are available. Go read them to learn what's new in this release: core - http://download.gnome.org/core/3.13/3.13.2/NEWS apps - http://download.gnome.org/apps/3.13/3.13.2/NEWS The GNOME 3.13.2 release itself is available here: core sources - http://download.gnome.org/core/3.13/3.13.2 apps sources - http://download.gnome.org/apps/3.13/3.13.2 WARNING! WARNING! WARNING! -- This release is a snapshot of early development code. Although it is buildable and usable, it is primarily intended for testing and hacking purposes. GNOME uses odd minor version numbers to indicate development status. For more information about 3.13, the full schedule, the official module lists and the proposed module lists, please see our colorful 3.13 page: http://www.gnome.org/start/unstable For a quick overview of the GNOME schedule, please see: http://live.gnome.org/Schedule Enjoy, Javier Jardón Cabezas GNOME Release Team ___ gnome-announce-list mailing list gnome-announce-l...@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-announce-list ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list -- Jasper -- Jasper ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
GNOME 3.13.2
The second release of the GNOME 3.14 development cycle is here. See [1] for the new features that have been proposed for this cycle. To compile GNOME 3.13.2, you can use the jhbuild [2] modulesets [3] (which use the exact tarball versions from the official release). Note that as part of Wayland development, 3.13.2 temporarily depends on systemd. This is needed because Wayland support in GNOME depends on systemd, but before 3.14 is released Wayland support will be made optional. [1] https://wiki.gnome.org/ThreePointThirteen/Features/ [2] http://library.gnome.org/devel/jhbuild/ [3] http://download.gnome.org/teams/releng/3.13.2/ The release notes that describe the changes between 3.13.1 and 3.13.2 are available. Go read them to learn what's new in this release: core - http://download.gnome.org/core/3.13/3.13.2/NEWS apps - http://download.gnome.org/apps/3.13/3.13.2/NEWS The GNOME 3.13.2 release itself is available here: core sources - http://download.gnome.org/core/3.13/3.13.2 apps sources - http://download.gnome.org/apps/3.13/3.13.2 WARNING! WARNING! WARNING! -- This release is a snapshot of early development code. Although it is buildable and usable, it is primarily intended for testing and hacking purposes. GNOME uses odd minor version numbers to indicate development status. For more information about 3.13, the full schedule, the official module lists and the proposed module lists, please see our colorful 3.13 page: http://www.gnome.org/start/unstable For a quick overview of the GNOME schedule, please see: http://live.gnome.org/Schedule Enjoy, Javier Jardón Cabezas GNOME Release Team ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
