Re: Gnome shell is really awesome

2013-02-07 Thread Olav Vitters
On Fri, Dec 07, 2012 at 10:47:04AM -0800, Christopher Wortman wrote:
 I hear that you are adding Gnome 2 features, and I have sat and thought and 
 pondered this for a long time.

It is still under development, but you can see some non-even alpha
quality screenshots:
http://blogs.gnome.org/mclasen/2013/01/25/gnome-3-7-at-the-halfway-mark/

I guess it'll take a few GNOME versions to get fully 'right' (we get way
more feedback once it is in a few stable distributions, some of which
can conflict with what is heard during the development cycle).


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Regards,
Olav
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Re: Gnome shell is really awesome

2013-02-07 Thread Lanoxx
Hi,

On 07/02/13 10:57, Olav Vitters wrote:
 On Fri, Dec 07, 2012 at 10:47:04AM -0800, Christopher Wortman wrote:
 I hear that you are adding Gnome 2 features, and I have sat and thought and 
 pondered this for a long time.
 
 It is still under development, but you can see some non-even alpha
 quality screenshots:
 http://blogs.gnome.org/mclasen/2013/01/25/gnome-3-7-at-the-halfway-mark/
 
 I guess it'll take a few GNOME versions to get fully 'right' (we get way
 more feedback once it is in a few stable distributions, some of which
 can conflict with what is heard during the development cycle).
 
 

Nice post, I am currious about the implementation details of the Classic
mode. It would be nice if someone could quickly answer a few questions:

* Will it be able to run applets written with libpanel-applet-4 (e.g. my
window-picker-applet)
* Can I rearange the panels and applets and for example remove the upper
panel and move everything down to the lower panel using ALT+Right_Click?
* Is it possible to remove the application menu and then call it with
the hot key ALT+F1 like in the current fallback mode?
* Can I still run gnome-panel inside this classic mode (e.g
mutter+gnome-panel like it is possible now)?

Kind Regards
Lanoxx
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Re: Gnome shell is really awesome

2013-02-07 Thread Florian Müllner
On Feb 7, 2013 11:11 PM, Lanoxx lan...@gmx.net wrote:
 Nice post, I am currious about the implementation details of the Classic
 mode.

You can think of classic mode as a gnome-shell session with a default set
of enabled extensions.

 * Is it possible to remove the application menu and then call it with
 the hot key ALT+F1 like in the current fallback mode?

Not directly, though I can imagine a (hackish) extension hiding. The answer
to everything else is no.
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Gnome shell is really awesome

2013-02-06 Thread Christopher Wortman
I hear that you are adding Gnome 2 features, and I have sat and thought and 
pondered this for a long time.

All Gnome 3 shell really needs is to be gone with global menu, add an 
application bar at the bottom, and add minimize. At the top add the same Gnome 
2 bar way of launching applications. I don't hate Gnome shell, and you could 
move Activities to a new area on the screen such as the bottom right corner, or 
hell do it as hot corners and allow the user to choose which hot corner to use 
for it. Don't completely kill Gnome shell, or the way it handles multiple 
desktops, that part is perfect. It is also nice to note that this UI actually 
works rather well with touch screens, so hot corners would be awesome. Best of 
both worlds! Nobody likes global menus, and I especially hate them on multiple 
displays while working with a ton of applications. Also It would be nice to hit 
a hot key on my keyboard like the super key to bring up 'Activities'. You guys 
are great and thank you for the awesome software.

Oh and for the sake of art work, put a white foot next to the Applications 
label on the menu to offset from the black and make the text labels white too. 
That would be slick, have the menus pop up like Gnome 3 style... I can picture 
it now and it would be gorgeous. If you want some mock up art, I will actually 
work on something in Gimp later today. Nothing over the top, keeping with the 
simplistic look and feel of Gnome, without being too flashy. Keeping the work 
that you have/want to put into it to a bare minimum.

Again thank you all for this amazing software, and I know others demand it, 
but most of you work on this for free, and I wanted to let you all know that I 
do not forget this when using it, and that I appreciate the ever expanding and 
improvements you all make. Even with the regressions of Gnome 3 shell, it is 
still awesome.

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