Re: How to unsubscribe from this group

2019-03-26 Thread Russell Bradberry
It seems that, at least in the GMail client, the instructions are
collapsed.  I honestly didn't even know they were there until you mentioned
it, as I have never really had the need to uncollapse it.  But yeah, the
unsubscribe link isn't working for me either in the GMail client.

On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 10:08 AM Brandon Williams  wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 11:56 AM Eric Evans 
> wrote:
>
> > FWIW, it seems the List-Unsubscribe header is being set.  For
> > supported clients (most of the big ones apparently), this is supposed
> > to result in a clickable unsubscribe link.  Gmail is supposed to be
> > one of the providers that supports this, and AFAICT the link is
> > supposed to appear to the right of the address in each message, but
> > this isn't working for me.
> >
>
> It's not working for me either, though I'm not sure how much it would help
> given instructions for unsubscribing are already appended to every message.
>


Re: How to unsubscribe from this group

2019-03-26 Thread Brandon Williams
On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 11:56 AM Eric Evans 
wrote:

> FWIW, it seems the List-Unsubscribe header is being set.  For
> supported clients (most of the big ones apparently), this is supposed
> to result in a clickable unsubscribe link.  Gmail is supposed to be
> one of the providers that supports this, and AFAICT the link is
> supposed to appear to the right of the address in each message, but
> this isn't working for me.
>

It's not working for me either, though I'm not sure how much it would help
given instructions for unsubscribing are already appended to every message.


Re: How to unsubscribe from this group

2019-03-26 Thread Eric Evans
On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 11:22 AM Russell Bradberry  wrote:
>
> This conversation comes up quite a bit as it pertains to a lot of Apache
> groups, especially the Cassandra groups.  I've advocated in the past for a
> more standard way of unsubscribing, such as responding with "UNSUBSCRIBE"
> in the subject line or body, or more of a link-based approach rather than a
> special email account you need to send a message to.

FWIW, it seems the List-Unsubscribe header is being set.  For
supported clients (most of the big ones apparently), this is supposed
to result in a clickable unsubscribe link.  Gmail is supposed to be
one of the providers that supports this, and AFAICT the link is
supposed to appear to the right of the address in each message, but
this isn't working for me.

> Thing is unless you subscribe to a lot of Apache mailing lists, this is not
> a normal way of subscribing and unsubscribing from distributions.  So, from
> a user perspective, it's easy to see how people can get confused as to how
> to actually unsubscribe.

YMMV, I guess.  I'm subscribed to a lot of mailing lists that work
identically (and have been for years).  I've never had an issue, and
cannot think of another list where so many struggle with how to
unsubscribe.  It's why I always circle back to wondering what is
different here.  Is the list software buggy or less forgiving (i.e. do
people try and fail)?  Are we not presenting this information
prominently enough on the site and/or are search engines not indexing
it properly?

> Which is why I linked to the Apache Cassandra
> community page as an effort to point folks in the right direction that may
> be wondering the same thing.

I applaud the intent, but a lot of people have been tilting at this
particular windmill for a while, and it doesn't seem to help.

> On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 9:10 AM Eric Evans 
> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 10:47 AM Russell Bradberry 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Responses like this aren't helpful.  I can't even remember how I
> > subscribed
> > > to this list as it was nearly 8 years ago.
> >
> > The answer might be.  We seem have a lot of people who struggle to
> > unsubscribe and I am curious as to why that is.  Is it just as
> > difficult for people to subscribe (and we're not aware because we
> > aren't seeing the questions)?  Did they try and fail?
> >
> > > To answer the question, you can send a message to
> > > dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org. Full instructions can be found
> > here:
> > > http://cassandra.apache.org/community/
> > >
> > > -Russ
> > >
> > > On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 8:20 AM Eric Evans 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > How did you subscribe?
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 9:24 AM Sundaramoorthy, Natarajan
> > > >  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > This e-mail, including attachments, may include confidential and/or
> > > > > proprietary information, and may be used only by the person or entity
> > > > > to which it is addressed. If the reader of this e-mail is not the
> > > > intended
> > > > > recipient or his or her authorized agent, the reader is hereby
> > notified
> > > > > that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail is
> > > > > prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify
> > the
> > > > > sender by replying to this message and delete this e-mail
> > immediately.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Eric Evans
> > > > john.eric.ev...@gmail.com
> > > >
> > > > -
> > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org
> > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Eric Evans
> > john.eric.ev...@gmail.com
> >
> > -
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org
> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org
> >
> >



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Re: How to unsubscribe from this group

2019-03-26 Thread Russell Bradberry
This conversation comes up quite a bit as it pertains to a lot of Apache
groups, especially the Cassandra groups.  I've advocated in the past for a
more standard way of unsubscribing, such as responding with "UNSUBSCRIBE"
in the subject line or body, or more of a link-based approach rather than a
special email account you need to send a message to.

Thing is unless you subscribe to a lot of Apache mailing lists, this is not
a normal way of subscribing and unsubscribing from distributions.  So, from
a user perspective, it's easy to see how people can get confused as to how
to actually unsubscribe.  Which is why I linked to the Apache Cassandra
community page as an effort to point folks in the right direction that may
be wondering the same thing.



On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 9:10 AM Eric Evans 
wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 10:47 AM Russell Bradberry 
> wrote:
> >
> > Responses like this aren't helpful.  I can't even remember how I
> subscribed
> > to this list as it was nearly 8 years ago.
>
> The answer might be.  We seem have a lot of people who struggle to
> unsubscribe and I am curious as to why that is.  Is it just as
> difficult for people to subscribe (and we're not aware because we
> aren't seeing the questions)?  Did they try and fail?
>
> > To answer the question, you can send a message to
> > dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org. Full instructions can be found
> here:
> > http://cassandra.apache.org/community/
> >
> > -Russ
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 8:20 AM Eric Evans 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > How did you subscribe?
> > >
> > > On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 9:24 AM Sundaramoorthy, Natarajan
> > >  wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > This e-mail, including attachments, may include confidential and/or
> > > > proprietary information, and may be used only by the person or entity
> > > > to which it is addressed. If the reader of this e-mail is not the
> > > intended
> > > > recipient or his or her authorized agent, the reader is hereby
> notified
> > > > that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail is
> > > > prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify
> the
> > > > sender by replying to this message and delete this e-mail
> immediately.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Eric Evans
> > > john.eric.ev...@gmail.com
> > >
> > > -
> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org
> > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org
> > >
> > >
>
>
>
> --
> Eric Evans
> john.eric.ev...@gmail.com
>
> -
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org
> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org
>
>


Re: How to unsubscribe from this group

2019-03-26 Thread Eric Evans
On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 10:47 AM Russell Bradberry  wrote:
>
> Responses like this aren't helpful.  I can't even remember how I subscribed
> to this list as it was nearly 8 years ago.

The answer might be.  We seem have a lot of people who struggle to
unsubscribe and I am curious as to why that is.  Is it just as
difficult for people to subscribe (and we're not aware because we
aren't seeing the questions)?  Did they try and fail?

> To answer the question, you can send a message to
> dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org. Full instructions can be found here:
> http://cassandra.apache.org/community/
>
> -Russ
>
> On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 8:20 AM Eric Evans 
> wrote:
>
> > How did you subscribe?
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 9:24 AM Sundaramoorthy, Natarajan
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > This e-mail, including attachments, may include confidential and/or
> > > proprietary information, and may be used only by the person or entity
> > > to which it is addressed. If the reader of this e-mail is not the
> > intended
> > > recipient or his or her authorized agent, the reader is hereby notified
> > > that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail is
> > > prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the
> > > sender by replying to this message and delete this e-mail immediately.
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Eric Evans
> > john.eric.ev...@gmail.com
> >
> > -
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org
> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org
> >
> >



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Re: How to unsubscribe from this group

2019-03-26 Thread Russell Bradberry
Responses like this aren't helpful.  I can't even remember how I subscribed
to this list as it was nearly 8 years ago.

To answer the question, you can send a message to
dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org. Full instructions can be found here:
http://cassandra.apache.org/community/

-Russ

On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 8:20 AM Eric Evans 
wrote:

> How did you subscribe?
>
> On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 9:24 AM Sundaramoorthy, Natarajan
>  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > This e-mail, including attachments, may include confidential and/or
> > proprietary information, and may be used only by the person or entity
> > to which it is addressed. If the reader of this e-mail is not the
> intended
> > recipient or his or her authorized agent, the reader is hereby notified
> > that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail is
> > prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the
> > sender by replying to this message and delete this e-mail immediately.
>
>
>
> --
> Eric Evans
> john.eric.ev...@gmail.com
>
> -
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org
> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org
>
>


Re: How to unsubscribe from this group

2019-03-26 Thread Eric Evans
How did you subscribe?

On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 9:24 AM Sundaramoorthy, Natarajan
 wrote:
>
>
>
> This e-mail, including attachments, may include confidential and/or
> proprietary information, and may be used only by the person or entity
> to which it is addressed. If the reader of this e-mail is not the intended
> recipient or his or her authorized agent, the reader is hereby notified
> that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail is
> prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the
> sender by replying to this message and delete this e-mail immediately.



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