Re: Way to unsubscribe from mailing lists

2017-04-27 Thread Eric Evans 
On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 11:16 AM, Jake Luciani  wrote:
> Another option would be to add a unsubscribe header, not sure if we already
> do but I think that causes gmail/outlook to add a unsubscribe button
>
> http://www.list-unsubscribe.com/

Brilliant.  Sad that it would come to this, but brilliant.

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Re: Way to unsubscribe from mailing lists

2017-04-26 Thread Jake Luciani 
Another option would be to add a unsubscribe header, not sure if we already
do but I think that causes gmail/outlook to add a unsubscribe button

http://www.list-unsubscribe.com/

On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 11:24 AM, Eric Evans 
wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 9:36 AM, Jake Farrell  wrote:
> > moderators can also subscribe/unsubscribe people by sending an email
> using
> > the following pattern
> >
> > example to unsubscribe u...@example.com:
> > dev-unsubscribe-user=example@cassandra.apache.org
>
> Doing so seem prone to abuse though.
>
>
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Re: Way to unsubscribe from mailing lists

2017-04-26 Thread Eric Evans 
On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 9:36 AM, Jake Farrell  wrote:
> moderators can also subscribe/unsubscribe people by sending an email using
> the following pattern
>
> example to unsubscribe u...@example.com:
> dev-unsubscribe-user=example@cassandra.apache.org

Doing so seem prone to abuse though.


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Re: Way to unsubscribe from mailing lists

2017-04-26 Thread Michael Shuler 
On 04/26/2017 07:51 AM, Nate McCall wrote:
> I'm fine with that footer. I see that from other lists I'm on and it
> doesn't bother me.

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-14017 request made.

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Re: Way to unsubscribe from mailing lists

2017-04-26 Thread Jake Farrell 
moderators can also subscribe/unsubscribe people by sending an email using
the following pattern

example to unsubscribe u...@example.com:
dev-unsubscribe-user=example@cassandra.apache.org

-Jake


On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 8:51 AM, Nate McCall  wrote:

> > Is anyone opposed to including a footer on all the
> > *@cassandra.apache.org lists? I think this could be helpful.
> >
> > I've appended a default-ish ezmlm "trailer text" that I found in a doc.
> >
> > --
> > Kind regards,
> > Michael
> >
> > ---
> >  To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org
> >  For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org
>
>
>
> I'm fine with that footer. I see that from other lists I'm on and it
> doesn't bother me.
>

Re: Way to unsubscribe from mailing lists

2017-04-26 Thread Nate McCall 
> Is anyone opposed to including a footer on all the
> *@cassandra.apache.org lists? I think this could be helpful.
>
> I've appended a default-ish ezmlm "trailer text" that I found in a doc.
>
> --
> Kind regards,
> Michael
>
> ---
>  To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org
>  For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org



I'm fine with that footer. I see that from other lists I'm on and it
doesn't bother me.

Re: Way to unsubscribe from mailing lists

2017-04-25 Thread Jeff Jirsa 
+1 vote to add it 

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> On Apr 25, 2017, at 6:26 PM, Michael Shuler  wrote:
> 
>> On 04/25/2017 12:52 PM, Mark Thomas wrote:
>>> On 25/04/17 16:11, Michael Shuler wrote:
>>> Many lists include a footer that have unsub info - does ezmlm support
>>> footer append? I wouldn't mind it, if it helps users, and it seems
>>> simpler than trying to filter random messages.
>> 
>> Yes it does. And the default footer includes unsubscribe info.
> 
> Is anyone opposed to including a footer on all the
> *@cassandra.apache.org lists? I think this could be helpful.
> 
> I've appended a default-ish ezmlm "trailer text" that I found in a doc.
> 
> -- 
> Kind regards,
> Michael
> 
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Re: Way to unsubscribe from mailing lists

2017-04-25 Thread Michael Shuler 
On 04/25/2017 12:52 PM, Mark Thomas wrote:
> On 25/04/17 16:11, Michael Shuler wrote:
>> Many lists include a footer that have unsub info - does ezmlm support
>> footer append? I wouldn't mind it, if it helps users, and it seems
>> simpler than trying to filter random messages.
> 
> Yes it does. And the default footer includes unsubscribe info.

Is anyone opposed to including a footer on all the
*@cassandra.apache.org lists? I think this could be helpful.

I've appended a default-ish ezmlm "trailer text" that I found in a doc.

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Re: Way to unsubscribe from mailing lists

2017-04-25 Thread Dave Lester 
If there's community consensus that this would help, mailing list footers can 
be added via an INFRA request. Here are some example requests from Hadoop and 
Spark:

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-10725
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-8051

Dave

On 2017-04-25 08:11 (-0700), Michael Shuler  wrote: 
> On 04/25/2017 09:56 AM, Eric Evans wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 2:56 AM, Alain RODRIGUEZ  wrote:
> >> Should / could we have INFRA automatically unsubscribing people sending
> >> those messages? I believe this would be the best solution, as more people
> >> mentioned a year ago. I would like at least those messages to be filtered,
> >> even that is a bit more selfish as it would not end the subscription for
> >> the person sending the message, it would at least reduce the noise.
> > 
> > I'd be in favor of filtering them from the list, with an
> > auto-responder that explained *why* it wasn't delivered, and what they
> > need to do to unsubscribe (and maybe setting the reply-to to
> > {list}-unsubscribe@cassandra.a.o).
> > 
> > I'm fairly certain the list software doesn't come ready to do this
> > though; I imagine the response from INFRA will be something like
> > "patches welcome", so we should be ready to rollup our sleeves.
> 
> Many lists include a footer that have unsub info - does ezmlm support
> footer append? I wouldn't mind it, if it helps users, and it seems
> simpler than trying to filter random messages.
> 
> -- 
> Michael
> 
>

Re: Way to unsubscribe from mailing lists

2017-04-25 Thread Mark Thomas 
On 25/04/17 16:11, Michael Shuler wrote:
> Many lists include a footer that have unsub info - does ezmlm support
> footer append? I wouldn't mind it, if it helps users, and it seems
> simpler than trying to filter random messages.

Yes it does. And the default footer includes unsubscribe info.

Mark

Re: Way to unsubscribe from mailing lists

2017-04-25 Thread Salih Gedik 
For some reason I don't really think that they are real persons who want to 
unsubscribe. I feel like they are classic spam pharmacy and advertising better 
uptime for C*

Cheers

Salih Gedik




Salih Gedik

>> On 25 Apr 2017, at 17:56, Eric Evans  wrote:
>> 
>> On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 2:56 AM, Alain RODRIGUEZ  wrote:
>> Should / could we have INFRA automatically unsubscribing people sending
>> those messages? I believe this would be the best solution, as more people
>> mentioned a year ago. I would like at least those messages to be filtered,
>> even that is a bit more selfish as it would not end the subscription for
>> the person sending the message, it would at least reduce the noise.
> 
> I'd be in favor of filtering them from the list, with an
> auto-responder that explained *why* it wasn't delivered, and what they
> need to do to unsubscribe (and maybe setting the reply-to to
> {list}-unsubscribe@cassandra.a.o).
> 
> I'm fairly certain the list software doesn't come ready to do this
> though; I imagine the response from INFRA will be something like
> "patches welcome", so we should be ready to rollup our sleeves.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Eric Evans
> john.eric.ev...@gmail.com

Re: Way to unsubscribe from mailing lists

2017-04-25 Thread Michael Shuler 
On 04/25/2017 09:56 AM, Eric Evans wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 2:56 AM, Alain RODRIGUEZ  wrote:
>> Should / could we have INFRA automatically unsubscribing people sending
>> those messages? I believe this would be the best solution, as more people
>> mentioned a year ago. I would like at least those messages to be filtered,
>> even that is a bit more selfish as it would not end the subscription for
>> the person sending the message, it would at least reduce the noise.
> 
> I'd be in favor of filtering them from the list, with an
> auto-responder that explained *why* it wasn't delivered, and what they
> need to do to unsubscribe (and maybe setting the reply-to to
> {list}-unsubscribe@cassandra.a.o).
> 
> I'm fairly certain the list software doesn't come ready to do this
> though; I imagine the response from INFRA will be something like
> "patches welcome", so we should be ready to rollup our sleeves.

Many lists include a footer that have unsub info - does ezmlm support
footer append? I wouldn't mind it, if it helps users, and it seems
simpler than trying to filter random messages.

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Michael

Re: Way to unsubscribe from mailing lists

2017-04-25 Thread Eric Evans 
On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 2:56 AM, Alain RODRIGUEZ  wrote:
> Should / could we have INFRA automatically unsubscribing people sending
> those messages? I believe this would be the best solution, as more people
> mentioned a year ago. I would like at least those messages to be filtered,
> even that is a bit more selfish as it would not end the subscription for
> the person sending the message, it would at least reduce the noise.

I'd be in favor of filtering them from the list, with an
auto-responder that explained *why* it wasn't delivered, and what they
need to do to unsubscribe (and maybe setting the reply-to to
{list}-unsubscribe@cassandra.a.o).

I'm fairly certain the list software doesn't come ready to do this
though; I imagine the response from INFRA will be something like
"patches welcome", so we should be ready to rollup our sleeves.


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