Re: [LEGACY STAT] test suite from legacy includes non-free NIST data
Le mer. 27 mars 2024 à 02:37, Elliotte Rusty Harold a écrit : > > This is something to ask Apache lawyers about. You could ask there: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL > Yes, we're allowed to > distribute this public US government data. https://www.nist.gov/itl/ssd/software-quality-group/national-software-reference-library-nsrl/subscribe/redistribution In particular: --- The RDS is not subject to copyright protection and is in the public domain. --- > No, that doesn't mean we > can distribute it under the Apache license. I think we can[1], but it is of no consequence (ASL will not apply to the public domain files). Quoting from Wikipedia[2]: --- The legal scholar Melville Nimmer has written that "it is axiomatic that material in the public domain is not protected by copyright, even when incorporated into a copyrighted work". Regards, Gilles [1] Within the files, there is a link to the original source (NIST). [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_domain > I can't tell. The legal nitpicking is beyond me. > > On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 10:46 PM Orion Yeung wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > I was unsure how to identify the component in the subject header here, but > > I'd noticed you've got the standard reference NIST data in your repo, here: > > > > https://github.com/apache/commons-math/tree/master/commons-math-legacy/src/test/resources/org/apache/commons/math4/legacy/stat/data > > > > that we - on a statistics Rust crate - realized we needed to stop > > redistributing in our repo. *I'm not a legal person, but I'm providing the > > heads up as it may be a copyright violation. *Feel free to ask me for > > clarifications. > > > > Some relevant links, > > > > [Fedora mailing list discussing this data when using the crate] ( > > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/legal%40lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/LSM6MO6TAHTIDNF5COCA6UWQDHWRF3AH/ > > ) > > [statrs GitHub issue mentioning this]( > > https://github.com/statrs-dev/statrs/issues/195) > > > > Best, > > -- > > Orion Yeung > > he / him - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org
Re: [LEGACY STAT] test suite from legacy includes non-free NIST data
This is something to ask Apache lawyers about. Yes, we're allowed to distribute this public US government data. No, that doesn't mean we can distribute it under the Apache license. Do we claim this is under the Apache license? I can't tell. The legal nitpicking is beyond me. On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 10:46 PM Orion Yeung wrote: > > Hello, > > I was unsure how to identify the component in the subject header here, but > I'd noticed you've got the standard reference NIST data in your repo, here: > > https://github.com/apache/commons-math/tree/master/commons-math-legacy/src/test/resources/org/apache/commons/math4/legacy/stat/data > > that we - on a statistics Rust crate - realized we needed to stop > redistributing in our repo. *I'm not a legal person, but I'm providing the > heads up as it may be a copyright violation. *Feel free to ask me for > clarifications. > > Some relevant links, > > [Fedora mailing list discussing this data when using the crate] ( > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/legal%40lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/LSM6MO6TAHTIDNF5COCA6UWQDHWRF3AH/ > ) > [statrs GitHub issue mentioning this]( > https://github.com/statrs-dev/statrs/issues/195) > > Best, > -- > Orion Yeung > he / him -- Elliotte Rusty Harold elh...@ibiblio.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org
Re: [LEGACY STAT] test suite from legacy includes non-free NIST data
Hi. Le mar. 26 mars 2024 à 23:46, Orion Yeung a écrit : > > Hello, > > I was unsure how to identify the component in the subject header here, but > I'd noticed you've got the standard reference NIST data in your repo, here: > > https://github.com/apache/commons-math/tree/master/commons-math-legacy/src/test/resources/org/apache/commons/math4/legacy/stat/data > > that we - on a statistics Rust crate - realized we needed to stop > redistributing in our repo. *I'm not a legal person, but I'm providing the > heads up as it may be a copyright violation. *Feel free to ask me for > clarifications. First result in a Google search: --- In general, publications of the National Institute of Standards and Technology, as publications of the Federal government, are in the public domain and not subject to copyright in the United States. Permission to reprint or copy from them is therefore not required. The original source should be credited. --- Also: https://www.nist.gov/open/copyright-fair-use-and-licensing-statements-srd-data-software-and-technical-series-publications#data Doesn't this apply to the data being referred to? Excerpt: --- To the extent that NIST may hold copyright in countries other than the United States, you are hereby granted the non-exclusive irrevocable and unconditional right to print, publish, prepare derivative works and distribute the NIST data, in any medium, or authorize others to do so on your behalf, on a royalty-free basis throughout the world. ---CUT--- Regards, Gilles > [...] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org
[LEGACY STAT] test suite from legacy includes non-free NIST data
Hello, I was unsure how to identify the component in the subject header here, but I'd noticed you've got the standard reference NIST data in your repo, here: https://github.com/apache/commons-math/tree/master/commons-math-legacy/src/test/resources/org/apache/commons/math4/legacy/stat/data that we - on a statistics Rust crate - realized we needed to stop redistributing in our repo. *I'm not a legal person, but I'm providing the heads up as it may be a copyright violation. *Feel free to ask me for clarifications. Some relevant links, [Fedora mailing list discussing this data when using the crate] ( https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/legal%40lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/LSM6MO6TAHTIDNF5COCA6UWQDHWRF3AH/ ) [statrs GitHub issue mentioning this]( https://github.com/statrs-dev/statrs/issues/195) Best, -- Orion Yeung he / him
