Re: [documentation-dev] Do you use sound or video in Impress?
Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: started http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Java/Java_Media_Framework it can then be moved where you like it. I have had time for a quick look only, but not to try the instructions. Thank you very much for this! It looks very complete. I am especially glad to see the instructions and screenshots for the necessary steps in OOo after JMF is intalled on the machine. --Jean - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@documentation.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@documentation.openoffice.org
Re: [documentation-dev] Do you use sound or video in Impress?
Hi Ariel, On 01/22/09 01:17, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: Setting this up can be very simple, or an odyssey (no middle term). First time I tried on other system it was very easy, now on Fedora 10 the file coulnd't even be installed due to an issue in the installer, so I had to edit the binary in vim and modify a line. Ariel, can you please post the very easy way of setting up the JMF to the Wiki? May be as a How-to or as a FAQ at http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/FAQ/General started http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Java/Java_Media_Framework it can then be moved where you like it. thank you very much! That new Wiki page looks really good. I will add some links that lead to that page, where appropriate. Uwe -- u...@openoffice.org - Technical Writer StarOffice - Sun Microsystems, Inc. - Hamburg, Germany http://documentation.openoffice.org/ http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation http://blogs.sun.com/oootnt http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@documentation.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@documentation.openoffice.org
Re: [documentation-dev] Do you use sound or video in Impress?
Hi, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: Hello Jean, On Tuesday 20 January 2009 22:33, Jean Hollis Weber wrote: Uwe Fischer wrote: in theory, all movie and sound files that your default browser can play should also be playable in Draw and Impress. I think you mean default media player, not default browser? this menu uses the Mozilla plug-ins, acording to http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/BrowseList?list=devby=threadfrom=2159761 it seems it needs to be fixed, and testing it on a DEV300_m39, on Linux, no plug- in works for me. in theory, most Mozilla plugins (aka Firefox add-ons) should be automatically recognized by OOo to play media files. As Mathias wrote, this is a nice way to re-use the good work that was already done by others in the FOSS world. Some plugins may not work because they expect a real browser environment to run, or because they ask for other dependencies than OOo. I have another question. In the Help, a note in the Media Player topic says: --- On UNIX systems, the Media Player requires the Java Media Framework API (JMF). Download and install the JMF files, and add the path to the installed jmf.jar to the class path in Tools - Options - OpenOffice.org - Java. --- Minor issue: Is UNIX the best term to use here? I assume it includes Linux, but I'm not sure that all the newbie Linux users (of which I am one) equate UNIX with Linux. yes, I changed that to read Linux or Solaris and included a link to the JMF page at java.sun.com. Real question: is there somewhere with good, clear, easy-to-follow (for us Linux newbies) instructions on where to get and how to install JMF, specifically on Ubuntu? (I'm not suggesting that info should be in the Help, but I want to know for my own use.) I had a look through Synaptic but didn't find anything I recognised as being JMF or JMF-related. you have to download the JMF Performance Pack for Linux from Sun: http://java.sun.com/javase/technologies/desktop/media/jmf/2.1.1/download.html Setting this up can be very simple, or an odyssey (no middle term). First time I tried on other system it was very easy, now on Fedora 10 the file coulnd't even be installed due to an issue in the installer, so I had to edit the binary in vim and modify a line. Ariel, can you please post the very easy way of setting up the JMF to the Wiki? May be as a How-to or as a FAQ at http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/FAQ/General I won't recomment to post the hacking tips though, because this might be dangerous foe normal users. And the supported formats are very little, even if you download the mp3 plug- in (http://java.sun.com/javase/technologies/desktop/media/jmf/mp3/download.html). I download and compile the Fobs4JMF, which is a JMF wrapper for ffmpeg (that means, you can play almost *anything*), see http://fobs.sourceforge.net . Any way, I'd suggest you give it a try (otherwise you have no other option to use that fork, that comes with native gstreamer support - something I strongly discourage! IMHO for a few features you get lots of issues). I download the file. Extract it in my home dir. I don't follow the instructions for the mp3 plug-in, but unzip it and copy it in the JMF (JMF-2.1.1e/lib). Then as su I move the JMF-2.1.1e to /opt, create a simlink /opt/JMF so I can update easyly (well, update is just a word here, as this is very unmantained by Sun). Then I solve every class path and library search path problem by creating/editing /etc/profile.d/java.sh (in Fedora and Ubuntu I had to create it), that looks like this: export JAVA_HOME=/opt/jdk export JMFHOME=/opt/JMF export CLASSPATH=$JMFHOME/lib/jmf.jar:$JMFHOME/lib/mp3plugin.jar: $JMFHOME/lib/fobs4jmf.jar:$CLASSPATH export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$JMFHOME/lib:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH export PATH=$JAVA_HOME/bin:$JMFHOME/bin:$PATH Add the $JMFHOME/lib/jmf.jar to OOo classpath (menu Tools - Options - Java), and reboot. Then as su, run the JMStudio and add the mp3 plug-in. Building Fobs4JMF, the JMF wrapper for ffmpeg, requires some knowledge on building (and programming: I had to correct some errors in five files to compile). They have a deb pkg for Ubuntu but it's old. Regards Uwe -- u...@openoffice.org - Technical Writer StarOffice - Sun Microsystems, Inc. - Hamburg, Germany http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/ http://blogs.sun.com/oootnt http://www.sun.com/staroffice - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@documentation.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@documentation.openoffice.org
Re: [documentation-dev] Do you use sound or video in Impress?
Hello Uwe, On Wednesday 21 January 2009 07:05, Uwe Fischer wrote: Hi, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: Hello Jean, On Tuesday 20 January 2009 22:33, Jean Hollis Weber wrote: Uwe Fischer wrote: in theory, all movie and sound files that your default browser can play should also be playable in Draw and Impress. I think you mean default media player, not default browser? this menu uses the Mozilla plug-ins, acording to http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/BrowseList?list=devby=threadfrom=215 9761 it seems it needs to be fixed, and testing it on a DEV300_m39, on Linux, no plug- in works for me. in theory, most Mozilla plugins (aka Firefox add-ons) should be automatically recognized by OOo to play media files. As Mathias wrote, this is a nice way to re-use the good work that was already done by others in the FOSS world. Some plugins may not work because they expect a real browser environment to run, or because they ask for other dependencies than OOo. I have another question. In the Help, a note in the Media Player topic says: --- On UNIX systems, the Media Player requires the Java Media Framework API (JMF). Download and install the JMF files, and add the path to the installed jmf.jar to the class path in Tools - Options - OpenOffice.org - Java. --- Minor issue: Is UNIX the best term to use here? I assume it includes Linux, but I'm not sure that all the newbie Linux users (of which I am one) equate UNIX with Linux. yes, I changed that to read Linux or Solaris and included a link to the JMF page at java.sun.com. Real question: is there somewhere with good, clear, easy-to-follow (for us Linux newbies) instructions on where to get and how to install JMF, specifically on Ubuntu? (I'm not suggesting that info should be in the Help, but I want to know for my own use.) I had a look through Synaptic but didn't find anything I recognised as being JMF or JMF-related. you have to download the JMF Performance Pack for Linux from Sun: http://java.sun.com/javase/technologies/desktop/media/jmf/2.1.1/download. html Setting this up can be very simple, or an odyssey (no middle term). First time I tried on other system it was very easy, now on Fedora 10 the file coulnd't even be installed due to an issue in the installer, so I had to edit the binary in vim and modify a line. Ariel, can you please post the very easy way of setting up the JMF to the Wiki? May be as a How-to or as a FAQ at http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/FAQ/General started http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Java/Java_Media_Framework it can then be moved where you like it. I won't recomment to post the hacking tips though, because this might be dangerous foe normal users. And the supported formats are very little, even if you download the mp3 plug- in (http://java.sun.com/javase/technologies/desktop/media/jmf/mp3/download.h tml). I download and compile the Fobs4JMF, which is a JMF wrapper for ffmpeg (that means, you can play almost *anything*), see http://fobs.sourceforge.net . Any way, I'd suggest you give it a try (otherwise you have no other option to use that fork, that comes with native gstreamer support - something I strongly discourage! IMHO for a few features you get lots of issues). I download the file. Extract it in my home dir. I don't follow the instructions for the mp3 plug-in, but unzip it and copy it in the JMF (JMF-2.1.1e/lib). Then as su I move the JMF-2.1.1e to /opt, create a simlink /opt/JMF so I can update easyly (well, update is just a word here, as this is very unmantained by Sun). Then I solve every class path and library search path problem by creating/editing /etc/profile.d/java.sh (in Fedora and Ubuntu I had to create it), that looks like this: export JAVA_HOME=/opt/jdk export JMFHOME=/opt/JMF export CLASSPATH=$JMFHOME/lib/jmf.jar:$JMFHOME/lib/mp3plugin.jar: $JMFHOME/lib/fobs4jmf.jar:$CLASSPATH export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$JMFHOME/lib:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH export PATH=$JAVA_HOME/bin:$JMFHOME/bin:$PATH Add the $JMFHOME/lib/jmf.jar to OOo classpath (menu Tools - Options - Java), and reboot. Then as su, run the JMStudio and add the mp3 plug-in. Building Fobs4JMF, the JMF wrapper for ffmpeg, requires some knowledge on building (and programming: I had to correct some errors in five files to compile). They have a deb pkg for Ubuntu but it's old. Regards Uwe Regards -- Ariel Constenla-Haile La Plata, Argentina Aus der Kriegsschule des Lebens - Was mich nicht umbringt, macht mich härter. Nietzsche Götzendämmerung, Sprüche und Pfeile, 8. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@documentation.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@documentation.openoffice.org
Re: [documentation-dev] Do you use sound or video in Impress?
Uwe Fischer wrote: in theory, all movie and sound files that your default browser can play should also be playable in Draw and Impress. I think you mean default media player, not default browser? Unfortunately, it is not easy to guarantee this for a multi-platform program. So there are some issues: That is a lot of issues! I have another question. In the Help, a note in the Media Player topic says: --- On UNIX systems, the Media Player requires the Java Media Framework API (JMF). Download and install the JMF files, and add the path to the installed jmf.jar to the class path in Tools - Options - OpenOffice.org - Java. --- Minor issue: Is UNIX the best term to use here? I assume it includes Linux, but I'm not sure that all the newbie Linux users (of which I am one) equate UNIX with Linux. Real question: is there somewhere with good, clear, easy-to-follow (for us Linux newbies) instructions on where to get and how to install JMF, specifically on Ubuntu? (I'm not suggesting that info should be in the Help, but I want to know for my own use.) I had a look through Synaptic but didn't find anything I recognised as being JMF or JMF-related. Thanks for any help you can give me. --Jean - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@documentation.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@documentation.openoffice.org
Re: [documentation-dev] Do you use sound or video in Impress?
Hello Jean, On Tuesday 20 January 2009 22:33, Jean Hollis Weber wrote: Uwe Fischer wrote: in theory, all movie and sound files that your default browser can play should also be playable in Draw and Impress. I think you mean default media player, not default browser? this menu uses the Mozilla plug-ins, acording to http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/BrowseList?list=devby=threadfrom=2159761 it seems it needs to be fixed, and testing it on a DEV300_m39, on Linux, no plug- in works for me. Unfortunately, it is not easy to guarantee this for a multi-platform program. So there are some issues: That is a lot of issues! I have another question. In the Help, a note in the Media Player topic says: --- On UNIX systems, the Media Player requires the Java Media Framework API (JMF). Download and install the JMF files, and add the path to the installed jmf.jar to the class path in Tools - Options - OpenOffice.org - Java. --- Minor issue: Is UNIX the best term to use here? I assume it includes Linux, but I'm not sure that all the newbie Linux users (of which I am one) equate UNIX with Linux. Real question: is there somewhere with good, clear, easy-to-follow (for us Linux newbies) instructions on where to get and how to install JMF, specifically on Ubuntu? (I'm not suggesting that info should be in the Help, but I want to know for my own use.) I had a look through Synaptic but didn't find anything I recognised as being JMF or JMF-related. you have to download the JMF Performance Pack for Linux from Sun: http://java.sun.com/javase/technologies/desktop/media/jmf/2.1.1/download.html Setting this up can be very simple, or an odyssey (no middle term). First time I tried on other system it was very easy, now on Fedora 10 the file coulnd't even be installed due to an issue in the installer, so I had to edit the binary in vim and modify a line. And the supported formats are very little, even if you download the mp3 plug- in (http://java.sun.com/javase/technologies/desktop/media/jmf/mp3/download.html). I download and compile the Fobs4JMF, which is a JMF wrapper for ffmpeg (that means, you can play almost *anything*), see http://fobs.sourceforge.net . Any way, I'd suggest you give it a try (otherwise you have no other option to use that fork, that comes with native gstreamer support - something I strongly discourage! IMHO for a few features you get lots of issues). I download the file. Extract it in my home dir. I don't follow the instructions for the mp3 plug-in, but unzip it and copy it in the JMF (JMF-2.1.1e/lib). Then as su I move the JMF-2.1.1e to /opt, create a simlink /opt/JMF so I can update easyly (well, update is just a word here, as this is very unmantained by Sun). Then I solve every class path and library search path problem by creating/editing /etc/profile.d/java.sh (in Fedora and Ubuntu I had to create it), that looks like this: export JAVA_HOME=/opt/jdk export JMFHOME=/opt/JMF export CLASSPATH=$JMFHOME/lib/jmf.jar:$JMFHOME/lib/mp3plugin.jar: $JMFHOME/lib/fobs4jmf.jar:$CLASSPATH export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$JMFHOME/lib:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH export PATH=$JAVA_HOME/bin:$JMFHOME/bin:$PATH Add the $JMFHOME/lib/jmf.jar to OOo classpath (menu Tools - Options - Java), and reboot. Then as su, run the JMStudio and add the mp3 plug-in. Building Fobs4JMF, the JMF wrapper for ffmpeg, requires some knowledge on building (and programming: I had to correct some errors in five files to compile). They have a deb pkg for Ubuntu but it's old. Regards -- Ariel Constenla-Haile La Plata, Argentina Aus der Kriegsschule des Lebens - Was mich nicht umbringt, macht mich härter. Nietzsche Götzendämmerung, Sprüche und Pfeile, 8. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@documentation.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@documentation.openoffice.org
Re: [documentation-dev] Do you use sound or video in Impress?
Hi, On 01/18/09 22:16, Jean Hollis Weber wrote: Can anyone assist me in writing a specific section of the OOo3 Impress Guide? ... For example, I'm totally unclear on the difference between Insert Movie and Sound versus Insert Object Sound (or Insert Object Video). I can get the first to work (on WinXP), but not the second (an object icon appears on the slide, but doesn't do anything). afaik, the Insert-Object-Sound/Video commands are mainly still there out of historical reasons. Normally, Insert-MovieSound should be used. If there is info in the Help, I've been unable to find it, and some of what I have found doesn't seem to correspond with what I see in WinXP. please send me some pointers to the incorrect Help pages. I've been searching the OOo forum and the Web, but it's slow going and I suspect I don't know the right search terms. Pointers to specific topics, threads, or pages, or some help from an experienced user, would greatly speed this up. Not just regarding those menu items, but generally what should be covered in the Impress user guide regarding sound and video in presentations. in theory, all movie and sound files that your default browser can play should also be playable in Draw and Impress. Unfortunately, it is not easy to guarantee this for a multi-platform program. So there are some issues: http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/buglist.cgi?issue_type=DEFECTcomponent=Drawingcomponent=Presentationissue_status=UNCONFIRMEDissue_status=NEWissue_status=STARTEDissue_status=REOPENEDissue_status=RESOLVEDtarget_milestone=OOo+3.1target_milestone=OOo+3.2target_milestone=OOo+3.xemail1=emailtype1=exactemailassigned_to1=1email2=emailtype2=exactemailreporter2=1issueidtype=includeissue_id=changedin=votes=chfieldfrom=chfieldto=chfieldvalue=short_desc=short_desc_type=allwordslong_desc=long_desc_type=allwordsissue_file_loc=issue_file_loc_type=fulltextstatus_whiteboard=status_whiteboard_type=fulltextkeywords=keywords_type=anytokensfield0-0-0=nooptype0-0-0=noopvalue0-0-0=cmdtype=doitorder=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+timeSubmit+query=Submit+query Uwe -- u...@openoffice.org - Technical Writer StarOffice - Sun Microsystems, Inc. - Hamburg, Germany http://documentation.openoffice.org/ http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation http://blogs.sun.com/oootnt http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@documentation.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@documentation.openoffice.org
Re: [documentation-dev] Do you use sound or video in Impress?
On 01/19/09 12:45, Jean Hollis Weber wrote: Uwe Fischer wrote: Jean Hollis Weber wrote: If there is info in the Help, I've been unable to find it, and some of what I have found doesn't seem to correspond with what I see in WinXP. please send me some pointers to the incorrect Help pages. On the page titled Movie and Sound in the Impress Help is this: - To play a movie or sound file in an Impress presentation 1.Open the slide that contains the movie or sound file. 2.Click the object icon for the movie or sound file on the slide. 3.Click Play on the Media Playback toolbar. - Is the help talking about previewing the movie or sound? IIRC, the preview works that way. But when showing a presentation, if I have used Insert Movie and Sound, it starts playing immediately when the slide is opened. No need to click, and the Media Playback toolbar is not there. If I used Insert Object Sound/Video, then there is an Object icon on the slide, but clicking on it does nothing. Thank you, Jean, for this information. I copied this mail to my To-Do list. Will upgrade Help as soon as I know which is the expected behaviour and which is a current issue. Uwe -- u...@openoffice.org - Technical Writer StarOffice - Sun Microsystems, Inc. - Hamburg, Germany http://documentation.openoffice.org/ http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation http://blogs.sun.com/oootnt http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@documentation.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@documentation.openoffice.org
Re: [documentation-dev] Do you use sound or video in Impress?
Jean Hollis Weber wrote: Can anyone assist me in writing a specific section of the OOo3 Impress Guide? I don't use sound or video in presentations, so I don't know from experience what the issues may be (nor how to solve them). For example, I'm totally unclear on the difference between Insert Movie and Sound versus Insert Object Sound (or Insert Object Video). I can get the first to work (on WinXP), but not the second (an object icon appears on the slide, but doesn't do anything). If there is info in the Help, I've been unable to find it, and some of what I have found doesn't seem to correspond with what I see in WinXP. I've been searching the OOo forum and the Web, but it's slow going and I suspect I don't know the right search terms. Pointers to specific topics, threads, or pages, or some help from an experienced user, would greatly speed this up. Not just regarding those menu items, but generally what should be covered in the Impress user guide regarding sound and video in presentations. --Jean Does PowerPoint have a similar functionality? That might help to start a Web search. I don't do much PP. Gary -- Gary Schnabl 2775 Honorah Detroit MI 48209 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@documentation.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@documentation.openoffice.org
