Re: [NOTICE] Subversion conversion

2004-11-21 Thread Philippe M. Chiasson
Stas Bekman wrote:
Geoffrey Young wrote:
[...]
so, rock on svn.
yes, yes, I'm +1. Thanks for taking care of it.
Don't forget about preserving the frozen cvs though. I have lots of 
modified files all over.
Yah, the CVS repository will remain for a long time read-only. (don't 
exactly know what *long* means)

Also we will need to modify some of the sw to work with svn instead of 
cvs (Makefile(s) and RELEASE notes)
Yes, I am here too, so I volountereed to take care of all the work 
required to move us over painlessley. It will include:

Fix external svn linkage for Apache-Test/ and docs/
Makefile  Release notes.
Developer documentation
perl.apache.org cronned building.
Also worth noting, we should be pigning Gerald to plan moving embperl 
over to the perl svn repos as well.

Oh, and one last thing, the infrastructure people suggested we move the 
content of the perl-core repos to
commiters/pmc/perl ? Any objections to that as well?


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Re: [NOTICE] Subversion conversion

2004-11-19 Thread Sencer Kutlug
I say we move up. 

-sencer

On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 16:37:16 -0600, William A. Rowe, Jr.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 CLI mod_aspdotnet folks;
 
 do we want to maintain
 
 httpd/cli/mod_aspdotnet/
 
 or drop the cli/ container, placing all of our modules at the
 httpd/ root parallel to mod_mbox, mod_python, etc?
 
 I'm getting ready to move those as the incubator committee
 has graduated us!
 
 Bill


RE: [NOTICE] Subversion conversion

2004-11-18 Thread Larry Toppi
Title: RE: [NOTICE] Subversion conversion






Sweet!


I would vote to move it up one level.


Thanks,
Larry.


-Original Message-
From: William A. Rowe, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 5:37 PM
To: CLI Dev
Subject: Re: [NOTICE] Subversion conversion


CLI mod_aspdotnet folks;


do we want to maintain


httpd/cli/mod_aspdotnet/


or drop the cli/ container, placing all of our modules at the
httpd/ root parallel to mod_mbox, mod_python, etc?


I'm getting ready to move those as the incubator committee
has graduated us!


Bill


At 12:52 AM 11/18/2004, Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
--On Saturday, November 13, 2004 7:03 PM -0600 Sander Striker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I'm finally taking care of the conversion of httpd-* to SVN.
I'll follow up with instructions on how to pull new workingcopies,
etc etc. I'm looking for volunteers to actually write a page
for developers on where to get SVN and how to check out the
sources from the SVN repository.

I'm shooting for being done with it all by tomorrow night.

Heh. Best laid plans of mice and men. =)

Anyhow, we've finally got the conversion finished. We're going to ask for one final sanity check from the community before we load it into the real repository. Unless we stumble upon something major in the next 12-24 hours, I will load it in and open the trees back up. You can browse/checkout the repository at:


http://svn.apache.org/repos/test/

When we go live, this dump will be loaded into the asf repository under httpd. (So, httpd-2.0 will be in httpd/httpd/trunk.) Note that *no* modifications made to the test repository will be preserved.


The httpd-docs-1.3 repository still needs to be merged in. (The way our httpd-1.3-docs is handled causes all sorts of nightmares with httpd-2.0's copies of the RCS files.) I plan on tackling that tomorrow, but I have to get a few other backroom things resolved (mailer and ACLs) before loading the repository first anyhow.


Thanks for everyone's patience! -- justin





Re: [NOTICE] Subversion conversion

2004-11-16 Thread Bill Stoddard
Sander Striker wrote:
Hi,
I'm finally taking care of the conversion of httpd-* to SVN.
I'll follow up with instructions on how to pull new workingcopies,
etc etc.  I'm looking for volunteers to actually write a page
for developers on where to get SVN and how to check out the
sources from the SVN repository.
I'm shooting for being done with it all by tomorrow night.
Sander
Did this happen?
Bill


Re: [NOTICE] Subversion conversion

2004-11-16 Thread Sander Striker
On Tue, 2004-11-16 at 07:03, Bill Stoddard wrote:
 Sander Striker wrote:
  Hi,
  
  I'm finally taking care of the conversion of httpd-* to SVN.
  I'll follow up with instructions on how to pull new workingcopies,
  etc etc.  I'm looking for volunteers to actually write a page
  for developers on where to get SVN and how to check out the
  sources from the SVN repository.
  
  I'm shooting for being done with it all by tomorrow night.
  
  Sander
  
 
 Did this happen?

Some irresponsible partying is delaying the process a bit...

Sander


Re: [NOTICE] Subversion conversion

2004-11-16 Thread Sander Striker
On Tue, 2004-11-16 at 09:34, Sander Striker wrote:
 On Tue, 2004-11-16 at 07:03, Bill Stoddard wrote:
  Sander Striker wrote:

  Did this happen?
 
 Some irresponsible partying is delaying the process a bit...

To clarify: I was planning on moving forward yesterday after
The Incredibles.  I got about 80% through.  I'll continue
after breakfast.  Apologies for the holdup.  I promise it'll
be worth it though.

Sander



Re: [NOTICE] Subversion conversion

2004-11-15 Thread Philippe M. Chiasson
Stas Bekman wrote:
Geoffrey Young wrote:
[...]
so, rock on svn.
yes, yes, I'm +1. Thanks for taking care of it.
Don't forget about preserving the frozen cvs though. I have lots of 
modified files all over.
Yah, the CVS repository will remain for a long time read-only. (don't 
exactly know what *long* means)

Also we will need to modify some of the sw to work with svn instead of 
cvs (Makefile(s) and RELEASE notes)
Yes, I am here too, so I volountereed to take care of all the work 
required to move us over painlessley. It will include:

Fix external svn linkage for Apache-Test/ and docs/
Makefile  Release notes.
Developer documentation
perl.apache.org cronned building.
Also worth noting, we should be pigning Gerald to plan moving embperl 
over to the perl svn repos as well.

Oh, and one last thing, the infrastructure people suggested we move the 
content of the perl-core repos to
commiters/pmc/perl ? Any objections to that as well?


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Re: [NOTICE] Subversion conversion

2004-11-14 Thread Yoshiki Hayashi
[Hope moderators won't discard this mail to lists that I'm
not subscribed to]

Sander Striker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I'm finally taking care of the conversion of httpd-* to SVN.
 I'll follow up with instructions on how to pull new workingcopies,
 etc etc.  I'm looking for volunteers to actually write a page
 for developers on where to get SVN and how to check out the
 sources from the SVN repository.

Sander is sitting right next to me at Hackathon and asked me
whether I want to write a doc.  Well, I'm too lazy to write
long English documentation and it seems somebody has already
done it. :-)
http://www.apache.org/dev/version-control.html

-- 
Yoshiki Hayashi


Re: [NOTICE] Subversion conversion

2004-11-14 Thread Stas Bekman
Geoffrey Young wrote:
Sander Striker wrote:
Hi,
I'm finally taking care of the conversion of httpd-* to SVN.
I'll follow up with instructions on how to pull new workingcopies,
etc etc.  I'm looking for volunteers to actually write a page
for developers on where to get SVN and how to check out the
sources from the SVN repository.

I thought we had discussed httpd-test a while back - something like we
couldn't migrate httpd-test to subversion until modperl-2.0 was also
migrated to subversion, since a mp2 checkout includes part
httpd-test/perl-framework/Apache-Test.
personally, I'd rather use subversion for everything, and I can't recall the
specifics of the issue, but I thought I'd bring it up in case it makes sense
to somebody :)
It's just that someone needs to simultaneously move modperl-2.0 to 
subversion too. And modperl-docs too, since they are checked out into 
modperl-2.0 check out. As long as this is all done at once there should be 
no problem. None of these projects had any branching so it shouldn't be a 
problem. But I've next to zero experience with subversion, so I'm not 
volunteering to do that.

Also it's important to keep a frozen version of the cvs, so one could 
still get cvs diffs for those modified checkouts that we have, for work in 
progress.

So first modperl-docs needs to be moved, then httpd-test, then 
modperl-2.0, I believe.

--
__
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http://stason.org/ mod_perl Guide --- http://perl.apache.org
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://use.perl.org http://apacheweek.com
http://modperlbook.org http://apache.org   http://ticketmaster.com


Re: [NOTICE] Subversion conversion

2004-11-14 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Sun, Nov 14, 2004 at 03:29:07PM -0500, Stas Bekman wrote:
 It's just that someone needs to simultaneously move modperl-2.0 to 
 subversion too. And modperl-docs too, since they are checked out into 

There's no reason we can't do the mp conversion today as well.

Stop by at the Hackathon and we can sort this out.  -- justin


Re: [NOTICE] Subversion conversion

2004-11-14 Thread Stas Bekman
Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
On Sun, Nov 14, 2004 at 03:29:07PM -0500, Stas Bekman wrote:
It's just that someone needs to simultaneously move modperl-2.0 to 
subversion too. And modperl-docs too, since they are checked out into 

There's no reason we can't do the mp conversion today as well.
Stop by at the Hackathon and we can sort this out.  -- justin
I'm not at ApacheCon. Gozer? Geoff?
--
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http://stason.org/ mod_perl Guide --- http://perl.apache.org
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http://modperlbook.org http://apache.org   http://ticketmaster.com


Re: [NOTICE] Subversion conversion

2004-11-14 Thread Andr Malo
* Sander Striker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm finally taking care of the conversion of httpd-* to SVN.
 I'll follow up with instructions on how to pull new workingcopies,
 etc etc.  I'm looking for volunteers to actually write a page
 for developers on where to get SVN and how to check out the
 sources from the SVN repository.

In case that nobody has already thought about it: Does it sound like a good
idea, to use svn:externals to retrieve the proper apr(-util) versions?

nd
-- 
 [...] weiß jemand zufällig, was der Tag DIV ausgeschrieben bedeutet?
DIVerses. Benannt nach all dem unstrukturierten Zeug, was die Leute da
so reinpacken und dann absolut positionieren ...
   -- Florian Hartig und Lars Kasper in dciwam


Re: [NOTICE] Subversion conversion

2004-11-14 Thread Garrett Rooney
André Malo wrote:
* Sander Striker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I'm finally taking care of the conversion of httpd-* to SVN.
I'll follow up with instructions on how to pull new workingcopies,
etc etc.  I'm looking for volunteers to actually write a page
for developers on where to get SVN and how to check out the
sources from the SVN repository.

In case that nobody has already thought about it: Does it sound like a good
idea, to use svn:externals to retrieve the proper apr(-util) versions?
There are a number of reasons not to do that, ranging from the fact that 
svn:externals doesn't deal well with accessing the repository from 
multiple different urls (i.e. http:// and https:// in this case) to the 
fact that people aren't always going to want to build with an in-tree 
copy of apr and apr-util, using svn:externals would force them to do so.

-garrett


Re: [NOTICE] Subversion conversion

2004-11-14 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
--On Sunday, November 14, 2004 11:39 AM +0100 André Malo [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
In case that nobody has already thought about it: Does it sound like a good
idea, to use svn:externals to retrieve the proper apr(-util) versions?
I talked that over with Ben Collins-Sussman on #apachecon yesterday, and he 
didn't think it'd be recommended.  Greg also pointed out that it'd force 
everyone to have srclib/apr  srclib/apr-util - which'd prevent out-of-tree 
APRs.

So, yah, we thought about it and tentatively decided against it.  =)  -- justin


Re: [NOTICE] Subversion conversion

2004-11-14 Thread Geoffrey Young


Sander Striker wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I'm finally taking care of the conversion of httpd-* to SVN.
 I'll follow up with instructions on how to pull new workingcopies,
 etc etc.  I'm looking for volunteers to actually write a page
 for developers on where to get SVN and how to check out the
 sources from the SVN repository.

I thought we had discussed httpd-test a while back - something like we
couldn't migrate httpd-test to subversion until modperl-2.0 was also
migrated to subversion, since a mp2 checkout includes part
httpd-test/perl-framework/Apache-Test.

personally, I'd rather use subversion for everything, and I can't recall the
specifics of the issue, but I thought I'd bring it up in case it makes sense
to somebody :)

--Geoff


Re: [NOTICE] Subversion conversion

2004-11-14 Thread Jim Jagielski
Let's not forget the 1.3 docs, unless we can somehow combine
the 2. When you checkout/export apache-1.3, a subset of
htdocs in httpd-docs-1.3 comes along for the ride
-- 
===
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There 10 types of people: those who read binary and everyone else.


Re: [NOTICE] Subversion conversion

2004-11-14 Thread Stas Bekman
Geoffrey Young wrote:
Sander Striker wrote:
Hi,
I'm finally taking care of the conversion of httpd-* to SVN.
I'll follow up with instructions on how to pull new workingcopies,
etc etc.  I'm looking for volunteers to actually write a page
for developers on where to get SVN and how to check out the
sources from the SVN repository.

I thought we had discussed httpd-test a while back - something like we
couldn't migrate httpd-test to subversion until modperl-2.0 was also
migrated to subversion, since a mp2 checkout includes part
httpd-test/perl-framework/Apache-Test.
personally, I'd rather use subversion for everything, and I can't recall the
specifics of the issue, but I thought I'd bring it up in case it makes sense
to somebody :)
It's just that someone needs to simultaneously move modperl-2.0 to 
subversion too. And modperl-docs too, since they are checked out into 
modperl-2.0 check out. As long as this is all done at once there should be 
no problem. None of these projects had any branching so it shouldn't be a 
problem. But I've next to zero experience with subversion, so I'm not 
volunteering to do that.

Also it's important to keep a frozen version of the cvs, so one could 
still get cvs diffs for those modified checkouts that we have, for work in 
progress.

So first modperl-docs needs to be moved, then httpd-test, then 
modperl-2.0, I believe.

--
__
Stas BekmanJAm_pH -- Just Another mod_perl Hacker
http://stason.org/ mod_perl Guide --- http://perl.apache.org
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://use.perl.org http://apacheweek.com
http://modperlbook.org http://apache.org   http://ticketmaster.com


Re: [NOTICE] Subversion conversion

2004-11-14 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Sun, Nov 14, 2004 at 03:29:07PM -0500, Stas Bekman wrote:
 It's just that someone needs to simultaneously move modperl-2.0 to 
 subversion too. And modperl-docs too, since they are checked out into 

There's no reason we can't do the mp conversion today as well.

Stop by at the Hackathon and we can sort this out.  -- justin


Re: [NOTICE] Subversion conversion

2004-11-14 Thread Geoffrey Young

 It's just that someone needs to simultaneously move modperl-2.0 to
 subversion too. And modperl-docs too, since they are checked out into
 modperl-2.0 check out. As long as this is all done at once there should
 be no problem. None of these projects had any branching so it shouldn't
 be a problem. But I've next to zero experience with subversion, so I'm
 not volunteering to do that.

gozer and I can take care of this while we're here.  I was waiting on you to
agree with the move before we went forward, though.  and it looks like your +1.

ok, so we're giving sander and justin the ok to lock down cvs until the svn
conversion is complete, which may be a day or two.  after that, everyone
will need to use svn to access mod_perl cvs (with instructions to follow).

so, rock on svn.

--Geoff


Re: [NOTICE] Subversion conversion

2004-11-14 Thread Stas Bekman
Geoffrey Young wrote:
It's just that someone needs to simultaneously move modperl-2.0 to
subversion too. And modperl-docs too, since they are checked out into
modperl-2.0 check out. As long as this is all done at once there should
be no problem. None of these projects had any branching so it shouldn't
be a problem. But I've next to zero experience with subversion, so I'm
not volunteering to do that.

gozer and I can take care of this while we're here.  I was waiting on you to
agree with the move before we went forward, though.  and it looks like your +1.
ok, so we're giving sander and justin the ok to lock down cvs until the svn
conversion is complete, which may be a day or two.  after that, everyone
will need to use svn to access mod_perl cvs (with instructions to follow).
so, rock on svn.
yes, yes, I'm +1. Thanks for taking care of it.
Don't forget about preserving the frozen cvs though. I have lots of 
modified files all over.

Also we will need to modify some of the sw to work with svn instead of cvs 
(Makefile(s) and RELEASE notes)

--
__
Stas BekmanJAm_pH -- Just Another mod_perl Hacker
http://stason.org/ mod_perl Guide --- http://perl.apache.org
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://use.perl.org http://apacheweek.com
http://modperlbook.org http://apache.org   http://ticketmaster.com


[NOTICE] Subversion conversion

2004-11-13 Thread Sander Striker
Hi,

I'm finally taking care of the conversion of httpd-* to SVN.
I'll follow up with instructions on how to pull new workingcopies,
etc etc.  I'm looking for volunteers to actually write a page
for developers on where to get SVN and how to check out the
sources from the SVN repository.

I'm shooting for being done with it all by tomorrow night.

Sander


Re: [NOTICE] Subversion conversion

2004-11-13 Thread Yoshiki Hayashi
[Hope moderators won't discard this mail to lists that I'm
not subscribed to]

Sander Striker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I'm finally taking care of the conversion of httpd-* to SVN.
 I'll follow up with instructions on how to pull new workingcopies,
 etc etc.  I'm looking for volunteers to actually write a page
 for developers on where to get SVN and how to check out the
 sources from the SVN repository.

Sander is sitting right next to me at Hackathon and asked me
whether I want to write a doc.  Well, I'm too lazy to write
long English documentation and it seems somebody has already
done it. :-)
http://www.apache.org/dev/version-control.html

-- 
Yoshiki Hayashi