[ cf-dev ] Query cacheing

2003-11-13 Thread Terry Riley
Can anyone verify:

Cached queries are application-specific rather than session-specific?

Cheers
Terry

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RE: [ cf-dev ] Query cacheing

2003-11-13 Thread Mark Smyth
Hi Terry
It would make sense if they were session specific.

Otherwise if it was application specific incorrect queries (ones produced by
other users) would be served.  This would cause problems with things like
search Interfaces...

Not 100% though and i'll be interested to find out also.

Regards
Mark



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Can anyone verify:

Cached queries are application-specific rather than session-specific?

Cheers
Terry

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Re: [ cf-dev ] Query cacheing

2003-11-13 Thread duncan . cumming

they're server-specific aren't they?


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Can anyone verify:

Cached queries are application-specific rather than session-specific?

Cheers
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RE: [ cf-dev ] Query cacheing

2003-11-13 Thread Aidan Whitehall
 Cached queries are application-specific rather than session-specific?

Just done a test, and they aren't application specific but server wide.



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[ cf-dev ] Cache Folders Clearing

2003-11-13 Thread Lovelock, Richard J
Morning...
 
We are using a content management system with two servers in a cluster.
 
Administration can be done on the master server via the content managament
system which allows all of the cache folders (there is a 'cache' folder for
each subsite - nearly 300 in total!) to be emptied, this is performed
manually by clicking a button fairly regularly or after a template change.
 
However, on the slave server, admin via the CMS can not be performed - so ,
I need a way of clearing the contents of any folder/subfolder called cache
below the root directory.
 
Can this be done using CF via a .cfm page which can be scheduled to run
regularly in CF Admin, and if so, how? 
 
Or, should this be done with an NT Batch job? (and if so any ideas how)
 
Much appreciate any help
 
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Re: [ cf-dev ] Cache Folders Clearing

2003-11-13 Thread duncan . cumming

get some code that will recurse through a directory tree.  amend it to find
folders called cache.  use cffile to loop through the contents of each of
these folders, deleting all the files.

set it all up with a scheduled job in the administrator or using
cfschedule.


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Morning...

We are using a content management system with two servers in a cluster.

Administration can be done on the master server via the content managament
system which allows all of the cache folders (there is a 'cache' folder for
each subsite - nearly 300 in total!) to be emptied, this is performed
manually by clicking a button fairly regularly or after a template change.

However, on the slave server, admin via the CMS can not be performed - so ,
I need a way of clearing the contents of any folder/subfolder called cache
below the root directory.

Can this be done using CF via a .cfm page which can be scheduled to run
regularly in CF Admin, and if so, how?

Or, should this be done with an NT Batch job? (and if so any ideas how)

Much appreciate any help

cheers

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RE: [ cf-dev ] Query cacheing

2003-11-13 Thread Terry Riley
Thanks for that, Aidan.

So on a server that only runs one application, they would effectively be 
application-wide. Otherwise, with several apps on one server, one would 
have to be careful on query naming, by the sound of it.

(or put them to application or session scope)

Cheers
Terry

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  Cached queries are application-specific rather than session-specific?
 
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Re: [ cf-dev ] Query cacheing

2003-11-13 Thread Damian Watson
Yup, server-wide -- and only 100 per server is the setting so on a server
with a lot of sites the gains are rather minimal...

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Re: [ cf-dev ] OnMouseover from within function

2003-11-13 Thread Neil Robertson-Ravo - Team Macromedia
Sorry...been out looking after my newborn...

What are you trying to do?

You can easily change style/text within a page (as long as JS can see it as
object)!

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 Matt,

 Sorry had no email this afternoon.  I tried it but it didn't do
 anything.  I have now given up on the idea of doing a mouseover.

 Thanks anyway.

 Dave

 At 11/12/2003 12:46, you wrote:
 Dave ,
 
 did this work for you?
 
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   oA.mouseover = 'this.style.color:#ff';
  
   that may work
  
Matt
  
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Hi,
   
I have some javascript that generates a menu tree and each menu item
can
have an associated URL.  What I want to do is apply a color change
to
 the
menu text when I mouseover.  All of the code is within javascript so
I
can't do the usual onMouseover= etc.
   
An example of some of the script is:
   
oA.className = sNodeClass;
   
This sets the class for the particular element.  What I am trying to
workout is how to do something like this:
   
oA.mouseover = color:#44FF00;
   
However this does not work.  Anyone have any ideas?
   
Thanks
   
Dave
   
   
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RE: [ cf-dev ] SOT: sms email gateway

2003-11-13 Thread Rich Wild
thanks Alex, but that's an email  sms service. I'm ideally looking for the
opposite. Ta though.

Currently looking at Peter's suggestion.

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 so we have to go for txt and then convert somehow to email so 
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[ cf-dev ] Regex additional help

2003-11-13 Thread Dave Phipps
Hi,

A long time ago I ask the list for some help with some regex of which the 
result was this:

REReplacenocase(fusebox.layout,'(href=index[.]cfm[^]+)()','\1#request.urltoken#\2', 
'all')

The client now wishes to be able to use a full URL and therefore I need to 
change the above regex to be able to handle a url like this:

http://www.mysite.com/index.cfm

How do I change the above regex to include the full url without specifying 
exactly what that url is apart from the index.cfm which will stay the same.

In other words, if the domain changes I don't want to have to go back 
through the code and change the above regex.

Any help?

Cheers

Dave

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Re: [ cf-dev ] OnMouseover from within function

2003-11-13 Thread Dave Phipps
Congrats on the new baby, ours is 1 next week - what a year!!

I have a javascript tree menu system based loosely on the msdn TOC 
tree.  It uses some javascript to generate the tree on the fly by grabbing 
each child node from another cfm template as it is selected.

The javascript creates various sections for building the icons and text and 
I wanted to be able to place a mouseover color change to the text.  I 
managed to get a cursor change on the icons but cannot get the text to pick 
up the stye onmouseover.

Here is a snippet of js:

oIMG = document.createElement(img);
oIMG.border = 0;
oIMG.className = handcursor;
So I would want something like:
oIMG.mouseover = style.color:44FF00;;
This does not work though!!

Cheers

Dave

At 11/13/2003 10:29, you wrote:
Sorry...been out looking after my newborn...

What are you trying to do?

You can easily change style/text within a page (as long as JS can see it as
object)!
N

- Original Message -
From: Dave Phipps [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 8:50 PM
Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] OnMouseover from within function
 Matt,

 Sorry had no email this afternoon.  I tried it but it didn't do
 anything.  I have now given up on the idea of doing a mouseover.

 Thanks anyway.

 Dave

 At 11/12/2003 12:46, you wrote:
 Dave ,
 
 did this work for you?
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Matt Horn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 10:20 AM
 Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] OnMouseover from within function
 
 
   oA.mouseover = 'this.style.color:#ff';
  
   that may work
  
Matt
  
   - Original Message -
   From: Dave Phipps [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: ColdFusion User group [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 10:07 AM
   Subject: [ cf-dev ] OnMouseover from within function
  
  
Hi,
   
I have some javascript that generates a menu tree and each menu item
can
have an associated URL.  What I want to do is apply a color change
to
 the
menu text when I mouseover.  All of the code is within javascript so
I
can't do the usual onMouseover= etc.
   
An example of some of the script is:
   
oA.className = sNodeClass;
   
This sets the class for the particular element.  What I am trying to
workout is how to do something like this:
   
oA.mouseover = color:#44FF00;
   
However this does not work.  Anyone have any ideas?
   
Thanks
   
Dave
   
   
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Re: [ cf-dev ] Regex additional help

2003-11-13 Thread duncan . cumming

application.cfm:
cfset request.globalURL = http://www.mysite.com;


regex:
REReplacenocase(fusebox.layout,'(href=#request.globalURL#/index[.]cfm[^]
+)()','\1#request.urltoken#\2',
'all')


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Hi,

A long time ago I ask the list for some help with some regex of which the
result was this:

REReplacenocase(fusebox.layout,'(href=index[.]cfm[^]+)()','
\1#request.urltoken#\2',
'all')

The client now wishes to be able to use a full URL and therefore I need to
change the above regex to be able to handle a url like this:

http://www.mysite.com/index.cfm

How do I change the above regex to include the full url without specifying
exactly what that url is apart from the index.cfm which will stay the same.

In other words, if the domain changes I don't want to have to go back
through the code and change the above regex.

Any help?

Cheers

Dave


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[ cf-dev ] a question

2003-11-13 Thread Spinelli Samuele
Hi, I'm an Italian boy who is trying to use CF using helm.
.I've a problem with an SQL operation and I need help. I hope you can
help me.
The query is:

cfquery datasource=fantabasket name=sel
 SELECT users.simbolo, Users.squadra, Classifica.punti, Classifica.pgioc,
Classifica.pv, Classifica.pp, Classifica.ptot
 FROM Classifica INNER JOIN Users ON Classifica.id_users = Users.id_users
 ORDER BY Classifica.punti DESC , Classifica.ptot DESC
/cfquery

Helm give me this error (the attached file): do you know why? Tanks for all
Samuele Spinelli




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CFQUERYPARAM parameterises the SQL in that irrespective of the variable
values being used in the query, the actual SQL query is the same in every
execution with the parameters being passed in seperately. This allows the
RDBMS to precompile  cache execution plans once for the general query
template as opposed to each time a subtley different query is submitted. Oh,
and it also prevents SQL injection hacking as a useful side effect.

Steve

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 Subject: [ cf-dev ] Use of cfqueryparam


 I've seen a lot of code lately where the query (either extracting,
 inserting or updating information) uses the

 cfqueryparam value=#xxx# in the WHERE clause, without
 qualifying the
 parameter with a cfsqltype.

 I can understand the use of the cfqueryparam with a cfsqltype
 and other
 attributes as one way of preventing cross-site scripting (adding
 additional text to the string to do something evil), but see
 no point in
 using

 'WHERE ID = cfqueryparam value=#url.ID#'

 as opposed to

 'WHERE ID = #url.ID#'

 Is there one? Is it faster? Manuals and googles don't seem to
 come up with
 an answer.

 Cheers
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Re: [ cf-dev ] a question

2003-11-13 Thread duncan . cumming

don't think you can send attachments to this list; copy and paste your SQL
error message into the email.


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Hi, I'm an Italian boy who is trying to use CF using helm.
.I've a problem with an SQL operation and I need help. I hope you can
help me.
The query is:

cfquery datasource=fantabasket name=sel
 SELECT users.simbolo, Users.squadra, Classifica.punti, Classifica.pgioc,
Classifica.pv, Classifica.pp, Classifica.ptot
 FROM Classifica INNER JOIN Users ON Classifica.id_users = Users.id_users
 ORDER BY Classifica.punti DESC , Classifica.ptot DESC
/cfquery

Helm give me this error (the attached file): do you know why? Tanks for all
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Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Use of cfqueryparam


CFQUERYPARAM parameterises the SQL in that irrespective of the variable
values being used in the query, the actual SQL query is the same in every
execution with the parameters being passed in seperately. This allows the
RDBMS to precompile  cache execution plans once for the general query
template as opposed to each time a subtley different query is submitted.
Oh,
and it also prevents SQL injection hacking as a useful side effect.

Steve

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 Subject: [ cf-dev ] Use of cfqueryparam


 I've seen a lot of code lately where the query (either extracting,
 inserting or updating information) uses the

 cfqueryparam value=#xxx# in the WHERE clause, without
 qualifying the
 parameter with a cfsqltype.

 I can understand the use of the cfqueryparam with a cfsqltype
 and other
 attributes as one way of preventing cross-site scripting (adding
 additional text to the string to do something evil), but see
 no point in
 using

 'WHERE ID = cfqueryparam value=#url.ID#'

 as opposed to

 'WHERE ID = #url.ID#'

 Is there one? Is it faster? Manuals and googles don't seem to
 come up with
 an answer.

 Cheers
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RE: [ cf-dev ] Query cacheing

2003-11-13 Thread Tim Blair

 So on a server that only runs one application, they would 
 effectively be application-wide. Otherwise, with several
 apps on one server, one would have to be careful on query
 naming, by the sound of it.

This was posted on cf-talk yesterday:

 -Original Message-
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 Sent: 12 November 2003 16:51
 Subject: Custom tag to see list of cached queries!
 
 ...

 I have written a CFX custom tag for CFMX, called 
 cfx_queryCache, which allows you to get a list of all your 
 cached queries and flush individual queries based on its key.
 
 I'd be interested in any ideas for improvements, both 
 functionality and improving the Java code. It's open-source 
 and available from http://tamuri.cfdeveloper.co.uk/

From the information on this page, the key that is used to store a
cached query is based on datasource + sql + name + username +
password.  Also note that the sql part of this is specific to the
*exact* query, right down to whitespace...

From this, it means that the only time you're likely to be running the
same query over multiple applications is if you're using a shared
library or include and exactly the same datasource and parameters.  In
which case, you're after exactly the same data from both applications,
so if wouldn't matter that you're retrieving the same info for both...

Tim.


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RE: [ cf-dev ] Regex additional help

2003-11-13 Thread Tim Blair

 How do I change the above regex to include the full url without
 specifying exactly what that url is apart from the index.cfm
 which will stay the same.

Here's a regex I've used for checking URLs:

^http[s]{0,}:\/\/[A-Za-z0-9-\.]+[A-Za-z0-9-_\.\/\?\]{0,}

Maybe you can hack that apart a bit...?

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RE: [ cf-dev ] Query cacheing

2003-11-13 Thread Beattie, Barry


 - and only 100 per server 

is that even if you dump the cached queries into session or application
scope? 
only 100 avail for Q-of-Q?

cheers
barry.b


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Yup, server-wide -- and only 100 per server is the setting so on a server
with a lot of sites the gains are rather minimal...

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 Cached queries are application-specific rather than session-specific?

Just done a test, and they aren't application specific but server wide.



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Re: [ cf-dev ] Query cacheing

2003-11-13 Thread Damian Watson
Sorry, I should have been more clear. The server only stores 100 cached
queries at any one time. If a new cached query is run, the oldest will be
knocked off the list of 100 stored and so is no longer cached. It will only
be cached once it is run again. This is why on a server with many
applications you will not get a huge performance increase from cached
queries. Dumping the query into a session or application scope is entirely
seperate from the caching process.

I assume that a QofQ is identical to a query as far as caching goes -- it's
relationship to another query would not be cached, just the query itself.

HTH


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Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 11:57 AM
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Query cacheing




  - and only 100 per server

 is that even if you dump the cached queries into session or application
 scope?
 only 100 avail for Q-of-Q?

 cheers
 barry.b


 -Original Message-
 From: Damian Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, 13 November 2003 8:20 PM
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 Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] Query cacheing


 Yup, server-wide -- and only 100 per server is the setting so on a server
 with a lot of sites the gains are rather minimal...

 - Original Message - 
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 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 9:50 AM
 Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Query cacheing


  Cached queries are application-specific rather than session-specific?

 Just done a test, and they aren't application specific but server wide.



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RE: [ cf-dev ] Query cacheing

2003-11-13 Thread Lovelock, Richard J
I assume that a QofQ is identical to a query as far as caching goes --
it's
relationship to another query would not be cached, just the query itself.

i believe that is correct about the caching of QofQ

the number of cached queries can be altered in CF Admin

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-Original Message-
From: Damian Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 13 November 2003 12:08
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Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] Query cacheing


Sorry, I should have been more clear. The server only stores 100 cached
queries at any one time. If a new cached query is run, the oldest will be
knocked off the list of 100 stored and so is no longer cached. It will only
be cached once it is run again. This is why on a server with many
applications you will not get a huge performance increase from cached
queries. Dumping the query into a session or application scope is entirely
seperate from the caching process.

I assume that a QofQ is identical to a query as far as caching goes -- it's
relationship to another query would not be cached, just the query itself.

HTH


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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 11:57 AM
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Query cacheing




  - and only 100 per server

 is that even if you dump the cached queries into session or application
 scope?
 only 100 avail for Q-of-Q?

 cheers
 barry.b


 -Original Message-
 From: Damian Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, 13 November 2003 8:20 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] Query cacheing


 Yup, server-wide -- and only 100 per server is the setting so on a server
 with a lot of sites the gains are rather minimal...

 - Original Message - 
 From: Aidan Whitehall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 9:50 AM
 Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Query cacheing


  Cached queries are application-specific rather than session-specific?

 Just done a test, and they aren't application specific but server wide.



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RE: [ cf-dev ] Query cacheing

2003-11-13 Thread Adrian Lynch
I think I read somewhere, on this list maybe, that the limit on query
caching in CFMX went up or was controllable. Is this right?

-Original Message-
From: Damian Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 13 November 2003 12:08
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Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] Query cacheing


Sorry, I should have been more clear. The server only stores 100 cached
queries at any one time. If a new cached query is run, the oldest will be
knocked off the list of 100 stored and so is no longer cached. It will only
be cached once it is run again. This is why on a server with many
applications you will not get a huge performance increase from cached
queries. Dumping the query into a session or application scope is entirely
seperate from the caching process.

I assume that a QofQ is identical to a query as far as caching goes -- it's
relationship to another query would not be cached, just the query itself.

HTH


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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 11:57 AM
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Query cacheing




  - and only 100 per server

 is that even if you dump the cached queries into session or application
 scope?
 only 100 avail for Q-of-Q?

 cheers
 barry.b


 -Original Message-
 From: Damian Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, 13 November 2003 8:20 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] Query cacheing


 Yup, server-wide -- and only 100 per server is the setting so on a server
 with a lot of sites the gains are rather minimal...

 - Original Message - 
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 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 9:50 AM
 Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Query cacheing


  Cached queries are application-specific rather than session-specific?

 Just done a test, and they aren't application specific but server wide.



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Re: [ cf-dev ] Query cacheing

2003-11-13 Thread Damian Watson
 the number of cached queries can be altered in CF Admin

Ah yeah... I was going to ask about that. Do you have any ideas of the
performance issues of ramping it up? I seem to remember being advised
against doing it...

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Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Query cacheing


 I assume that a QofQ is identical to a query as far as caching goes --
 it's
 relationship to another query would not be cached, just the query itself.

 i believe that is correct about the caching of QofQ

 the number of cached queries can be altered in CF Admin

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 -Original Message-
 From: Damian Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 13 November 2003 12:08
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 Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] Query cacheing


 Sorry, I should have been more clear. The server only stores 100 cached
 queries at any one time. If a new cached query is run, the oldest will be
 knocked off the list of 100 stored and so is no longer cached. It will
only
 be cached once it is run again. This is why on a server with many
 applications you will not get a huge performance increase from cached
 queries. Dumping the query into a session or application scope is entirely
 seperate from the caching process.

 I assume that a QofQ is identical to a query as far as caching goes -- 
it's
 relationship to another query would not be cached, just the query itself.

 HTH


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 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 11:57 AM
 Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Query cacheing


 
 
   - and only 100 per server
 
  is that even if you dump the cached queries into session or application
  scope?
  only 100 avail for Q-of-Q?
 
  cheers
  barry.b
 
 
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  Yup, server-wide -- and only 100 per server is the setting so on a
server
  with a lot of sites the gains are rather minimal...
 
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  Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 9:50 AM
  Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Query cacheing
 
 
   Cached queries are application-specific rather than session-specific?
 
  Just done a test, and they aren't application specific but server wide.
 
 
 
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RE: [ cf-dev ] Query cacheing

2003-11-13 Thread Lovelock, Richard J
Alex (Skinner) may be able to advise but taken from CF Admin course notes:

Do not limit the number of cached queries on the server, as caching queries
can be a fundamental performance booster. I would set this to . When CF
runs out of memory it will simpy drop the oldest query from the cache

but Following article
http://www.defusion.com/articles/index.cfm?articleid=130 says:

In ColdFusion 4.5 the number of cached queries that you can have on the
server is only really limited by the amount of physical memory you have in
your machine.  This setting is provided as a way for you to limit yourself,
so that you don't get carried away and eat up all of your server resources
storing cached query results.  Also keep in mind the size of the result sets
for the queries you are caching.   This setting will allow you to limit the
NUMBER of cached queries, but that has nothing to do with the total SIZE of
all of the cached queries combined.

Looks like there is an impact on server resources but can also dramatically
help performance. I know that I where I have experimented with cached and
uncached - the cached query pages are significantly quicker

not sure if that helps :o/
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 the number of cached queries can be altered in CF Admin

Ah yeah... I was going to ask about that. Do you have any ideas of the
performance issues of ramping it up? I seem to remember being advised
against doing it...

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 I assume that a QofQ is identical to a query as far as caching goes --
 it's
 relationship to another query would not be cached, just the query itself.

 i believe that is correct about the caching of QofQ

 the number of cached queries can be altered in CF Admin

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 Sorry, I should have been more clear. The server only stores 100 cached
 queries at any one time. If a new cached query is run, the oldest will be
 knocked off the list of 100 stored and so is no longer cached. It will
only
 be cached once it is run again. This is why on a server with many
 applications you will not get a huge performance increase from cached
 queries. Dumping the query into a session or application scope is entirely
 seperate from the caching process.

 I assume that a QofQ is identical to a query as far as caching goes -- 
it's
 relationship to another query would not be cached, just the query itself.

 HTH


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   - and only 100 per server
 
  is that even if you dump the cached queries into session or application
  scope?
  only 100 avail for Q-of-Q?
 
  cheers
  barry.b
 
 
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  Yup, server-wide -- and only 100 per server is the setting so on a
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  with a lot of sites the gains are rather minimal...
 
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   Cached queries are application-specific rather than session-specific?
 
  Just done a test, and they aren't application specific but server wide.
 
 
 
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RE: [ cf-dev ] Regex additional help

2003-11-13 Thread Dave Phipps
Thanks Tim,

I'll play around with it.  I have now got it working.  Always look for the 
easy answer:

This does just what I need:

REReplacenocase(fusebox.layout,'(index[.]cfm[^]+)','\1#request.urltoken#\2', 
'all')

It then does not matter if the the url looks like 
http://www.mysite.com/index.cfm or just index.cfm. They are both fixed.

Cheers

Dave

At 11/13/2003 11:54, you wrote:

 How do I change the above regex to include the full url without
 specifying exactly what that url is apart from the index.cfm
 which will stay the same.
Here's a regex I've used for checking URLs:

^http[s]{0,}:\/\/[A-Za-z0-9-\.]+[A-Za-z0-9-_\.\/\?\]{0,}

Maybe you can hack that apart a bit...?

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[ cf-dev ] Searching for resolutions

2003-11-13 Thread Lovelock, Richard J
 
 When trying to find help online for CF related problems on searchable
discussion forums - is the Macromedia CF Support forum the main/best place
to go - or are there are searchable CF discussion forums that people here
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[ cf-dev ] Regex

2003-11-13 Thread Gordon Burns
I have an application where my client wants to prevent users 
putting in either an email or a phone number into a textform field.

This is to ensure that contact is made through the site owner..

Does anyone have to hand a regex that can detect an email in a 
stringthat they could share.

Does any have an suggestions about phone numbers I think any string 
with more that 5 numerals would be seen as suspicious !  Only UK 
numbers are the concern here



TIA for any thoughts.

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RE: [ cf-dev ] Regex

2003-11-13 Thread Paolo Piponi
@+|[0-9 ]{7,}

Wouldn't that do it: either a @ sign or any combination of 7 numerals or
spaces.

Search for this and inform if found.

Paolo

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 I have an application where my client wants to prevent users 
 putting in either an email or a phone number into a textform field.
 
 This is to ensure that contact is made through the site owner..
 
 Does anyone have to hand a regex that can detect an email in a 
 stringthat they could share.
 
 
 Does any have an suggestions about phone numbers I think any string 
 with more that 5 numerals would be seen as suspicious !  Only UK 
 numbers are the concern here
 
 
 
 TIA for any thoughts.
 
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Re: [ cf-dev ] Regex

2003-11-13 Thread Stephen Moretti
Would it not be easier to check that the entered value _is_ something, 
as opposed to _is not_ something??

Or doesn't the client really have a set idea of what they want from the 
user, just that it shouldn't be email or phone number?

Stephen

Gordon Burns wrote:
I have an application where my client wants to prevent users putting in 
either an email or a phone number into a textform field.

This is to ensure that contact is made through the site owner..

Does anyone have to hand a regex that can detect an email in a 
stringthat they could share.

Does any have an suggestions about phone numbers I think any string with 
more that 5 numerals would be seen as suspicious !  Only UK numbers are 
the concern here



TIA for any thoughts.

Gordon




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RE: [ cf-dev ] Regex

2003-11-13 Thread Rich Wild
if someone really wants to put something in, there's not a lot you can do
about it.

If I really wanted to put a telephone number in, and noticed you regex'ing
them out, I'd just do this:

0 two 0 four 3 six 7 four 7.

that'll pass a telephone number regex. Same with e-mail, like
friendsreunited discovered, there's no way other than manual moderation to
catch all variances (eg rDOTwildATe-mangoDOTcom)

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 I have an application where my client wants to prevent users 
 putting in either an email or a phone number into a textform field.
 
 This is to ensure that contact is made through the site owner..
 
 Does anyone have to hand a regex that can detect an email in a 
 stringthat they could share.
 
 
 Does any have an suggestions about phone numbers I think any string 
 with more that 5 numerals would be seen as suspicious !  Only UK 
 numbers are the concern here
 
 
 
 TIA for any thoughts.
 
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Re: [ cf-dev ] Regex

2003-11-13 Thread duncan . cumming

this would be too easy to get around, just like you can get around printing
your email address on a page in a way that spambots can harvest it.  I'd be
really annoyed too if some form rejected my submission because it thought
I'd put in an email address.  Perhaps in these cases instead of informing
the user, just inform the site administrator to deal with it manually
(reject/edit/approve the user's message).

otherwise, if you have a message like Sorry but we don't let you put email
address or phone numbers in this form, I'd just put in something like:
email
 @
my domain.com

to get round it.


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I have an application where my client wants to prevent users
putting in either an email or a phone number into a textform field.

This is to ensure that contact is made through the site owner..

Does anyone have to hand a regex that can detect an email in a
stringthat they could share.


Does any have an suggestions about phone numbers I think any string
with more that 5 numerals would be seen as suspicious !  Only UK
numbers are the concern here



TIA for any thoughts.

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Re: [ cf-dev ] Scottish CFUG Meeting - Thursday 20th November - CFCs Part 1

2003-11-13 Thread duncan . cumming

ah yes, Loch Lomond, that well known hot-bed of CF development ;-)


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Just thought I'd pass on that the Scottish CFUG will be meeting next
Thursday in Loch Lomond Leisure Club Bar.

The meeting topic will be ColdFusion Components and how that can be used
to leverage OO programming techniques to build powerful applications
quickly.

Duncan Jack, founder and manager, of the Scottish CFUG will be the
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[ cf-dev ] Verity vs full-text catalog

2003-11-13 Thread Snake Hollywood
I am using full-text catalogs on a BIG database so I can do text
searches using CONTAINS, but they take like 2 days to populate, so I am
gonna give verity a try instead.

Anyone got experience of creating verity collections for very large
databases and how it compares to using full-text catalogs.

Also I know there are restrictions on the version of verity that comes
with CF, it will only return a certain number of results. Anyone every
bought the full K2 verity server and know how much it is ?

Russ


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[ cf-dev ] some work going

2003-11-13 Thread Damien Gallagher
Hi all,

just putting another call out for anyone looking for a bit of work in London 
starting about mid-December and going on perhaps till mid-Jan. 

Will involve:

1. liaising between development agencies and webhosts
2. advising on technical issues and new site specifications
3. we use Cold Fusion and SQL2000 so a working knowledge of these
4. basic Photoshop skills
5. working in London office

Please send me an email privately if you're interested or need more 
information. 

I had a few people who were going to send me CV's last time I advertised but 
never received any, so send them over now if you're still interested!

Hope to hear form some of you!

Thanks, Damien

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RE: [ cf-dev ] Verity vs full-text catalog

2003-11-13 Thread Adrian Lynch
Have you looked into incremental population?

Ade

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Subject: [ cf-dev ] Verity vs full-text catalog


I am using full-text catalogs on a BIG database so I can do text
searches using CONTAINS, but they take like 2 days to populate, so I am
gonna give verity a try instead.

Anyone got experience of creating verity collections for very large
databases and how it compares to using full-text catalogs.

Also I know there are restrictions on the version of verity that comes
with CF, it will only return a certain number of results. Anyone every
bought the full K2 verity server and know how much it is ?

Russ


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Re: [ cf-dev ] Regex

2003-11-13 Thread Gordon Burns
At 14:08 13/11/2003 Stephen Moretti said
Would it not be easier to check that the entered value _is_ 
something, as opposed to _is not_ something??
Yes it would but the application does not work like that.  The text 
area form is text entered by one user to be sent to another user 
and at this stage we do not want either user to have access to each 
other. It is not a dating application but to do with rare and 
difficult to to obtain machinery parts.


Or doesn't the client really have a set idea of what they want 
from the user, just that it shouldn't be email or phone number?
That is it really, no sneaking in an attempt at direct 
contact.  However I have no found a function at CFLib.org still 
considering what to do about the numbers.



Gordon





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Re: [ cf-dev ] Regex

2003-11-13 Thread duncan . cumming

if you don't want users to have access to each other, don't let them enter
text in a form that can be sent from one user to another.  have everything
moderated in between.  logistical nightmare if you have a lot of users, or
a lot of messages.  but the only way to do it properly.


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At 14:08 13/11/2003 Stephen Moretti said
Would it not be easier to check that the entered value _is_
something, as opposed to _is not_ something??

Yes it would but the application does not work like that.  The text
area form is text entered by one user to be sent to another user
and at this stage we do not want either user to have access to each
other. It is not a dating application but to do with rare and
difficult to to obtain machinery parts.


Or doesn't the client really have a set idea of what they want
from the user, just that it shouldn't be email or phone number?

That is it really, no sneaking in an attempt at direct
contact.  However I have no found a function at CFLib.org still
considering what to do about the numbers.



Gordon





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RE: [ cf-dev ] Regex

2003-11-13 Thread Gordon Burns
At 14:16 13/11/2003 Rich Wild said
if someone really wants to put something in, there's not a lot you can do
about it.
If I really wanted to put a telephone number in, and noticed you regex'ing
them out, I'd just do this:
0 two 0 four 3 six 7 four 7.

that'll pass a telephone number regex. Same with e-mail, like
friendsreunited discovered, there's no way other than manual moderation to
catch all variances (eg rDOTwildATe-mangoDOTcom)
You are right of course but the message will be seen and reviwed 
after the event and if a user is playing sill y beggars they are an 
ex user.  Frankly I do not think the client has a big problem here 
as it will be bad news for the user if he can not use the system.

Thanks

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Re: [ cf-dev ] Regex

2003-11-13 Thread Gordon Burns
At 14:26 13/11/2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said

this would be too easy to get around, just like you can get around printing
your email address on a page in a way that spambots can harvest it.  I'd be
really annoyed too if some form rejected my submission because it thought
I'd put in an email address.  Perhaps in these cases instead of informing
the user, just inform the site administrator to deal with it manually
(reject/edit/approve the user's message).
otherwise, if you have a message like Sorry but we don't let you put email
address or phone numbers in this form, I'd just put in something like:
email
 @
my domain.com
to get round it.


I am sure that once a user is warned that will be the end of the 
problem as it is simply not worth their while to risk being dumped 
from the system,  The warning that we have sent the message butt 
removed the email etc will be sufficient to let them know that 
trying to get around the system will not work.

Thanks to all for the coments.  very useful when talking to client..

Gordon

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RE: [ cf-dev ] Verity vs full-text catalog

2003-11-13 Thread Snake Hollywood
We have to do full population as the database is reloaded every week.




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Have you looked into incremental population?

Ade

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Subject: [ cf-dev ] Verity vs full-text catalog


I am using full-text catalogs on a BIG database so I can do text
searches using CONTAINS, but they take like 2 days to populate, so I am
gonna give verity a try instead.

Anyone got experience of creating verity collections for very large
databases and how it compares to using full-text catalogs.

Also I know there are restrictions on the version of verity that comes
with CF, it will only return a certain number of results. Anyone every
bought the full K2 verity server and know how much it is ?

Russ


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[ cf-dev ] Problems with certain characters using XmlTransform

2003-11-13 Thread Adam Bailin
I'm getting a weird problem doing XSLT in CFMX 6.1.

Every time CF encounters an 'è' as in crèche, it converts it into crà che in the 
output HTML.

If I do the transform directly using Xalan 2.5, it works no problem.

Has anyone else had this problem?

What version of Xalan is CF using 'under the hood'?


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RE: [ cf-dev ] Verity vs full-text catalog

2003-11-13 Thread Snake Hollywood
MSSEARCH isn't crap Stephen, it's actually quite good. In my tests it is
operating faster than verity.
I have indexed over 20million records with the FULL-TEXT Search and am
getitng results back in seconds. The only problem is the time to create
the flippin catalog.




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From: Stephen Moretti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 13 November 2003 16:13
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Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] Verity vs full-text catalog


Verity is a real text indexing and retrieval engine unlike that thing 
that MS attached to SQL Server.

CFMX std can only index/search 125000 documents/records, CFMX Ent can 
cope with 25 documents/records.   I believe that is total, not per 
collection.  I don't believe there are restrictions on the number of 
records returned in a search (other than as I've just mentioned).

In terms of a price for Verity K2 you're probably at some where between 
20 to 50k.

Regards

Stephen


Snake Hollywood wrote:

 I am using full-text catalogs on a BIG database so I can do text 
 searches using CONTAINS, but they take like 2 days to populate, so I 
 am gonna give verity a try instead.
 
 Anyone got experience of creating verity collections for very large 
 databases and how it compares to using full-text catalogs.
 
 Also I know there are restrictions on the version of verity that comes

 with CF, it will only return a certain number of results. Anyone every

 bought the full K2 verity server and know how much it is ?
 
 Russ
 
 


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RE: [ cf-dev ] Verity vs full-text catalog

2003-11-13 Thread Snake Hollywood
MSSEARCH isn't crap Stephen, it's actually quite good. In my tests it is
operating faster than verity.
I have indexed over 20million records with the FULL-TEXT Search and am
getitng results back in seconds. The only problem is the time to create
the flippin catalog.




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-Original Message-
From: Stephen Moretti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 13 November 2003 16:13
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] Verity vs full-text catalog


Verity is a real text indexing and retrieval engine unlike that thing 
that MS attached to SQL Server.

CFMX std can only index/search 125000 documents/records, CFMX Ent can 
cope with 25 documents/records.   I believe that is total, not per 
collection.  I don't believe there are restrictions on the number of 
records returned in a search (other than as I've just mentioned).

In terms of a price for Verity K2 you're probably at some where between 
20 to 50k.

Regards

Stephen


Snake Hollywood wrote:

 I am using full-text catalogs on a BIG database so I can do text 
 searches using CONTAINS, but they take like 2 days to populate, so I 
 am gonna give verity a try instead.
 
 Anyone got experience of creating verity collections for very large 
 databases and how it compares to using full-text catalogs.
 
 Also I know there are restrictions on the version of verity that comes

 with CF, it will only return a certain number of results. Anyone every

 bought the full K2 verity server and know how much it is ?
 
 Russ
 
 


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RE: [ cf-dev ] Problems with certain characters using XmlTransform

2003-11-13 Thread Snake Hollywood
What character is displayed in the HTML source, you may need to change
the encoding of the page.

Russ




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Sent: 13 November 2003 16:39
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Subject: [ cf-dev ] Problems with certain characters using XmlTransform


I'm getting a weird problem doing XSLT in CFMX 6.1.

Every time CF encounters an 'è' as in crèche, it converts it into crÃ
che in the output HTML.

If I do the transform directly using Xalan 2.5, it works no problem.

Has anyone else had this problem?

What version of Xalan is CF using 'under the hood'?


Adam Bailin
Web Developer
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Re: [ cf-dev ] Verity vs full-text catalog

2003-11-13 Thread Stephen Moretti

MSSEARCH isn't crap Stephen, it's actually quite good. In my tests it is
operating faster than verity.

really?? Are you sure its not because you're using CONTAINS instead of 
STEM searches and other text indexing/retrieval type stuff etc? (he says 
struggling for a suitable Information Library Management type term)

CONTAINS will be a damn site quicker than a full stem search, as it will 
look for exactly what you enter in the query.  eg.  searching for 
appearing with CONTAINS will get you just that.  A STEM search will 
look for all versions and tenses of appear.


I have indexed over 20million records with the FULL-TEXT Search and am
getitng results back in seconds. The only problem is the time to create
the flippin catalog.
I suspect that you aren't going to be able to get past that.

Is there a reason for full replacements of the database, rather than 
only those records that have changed?  Can you get the client to update 
the database, rather than the originating flat files?

Stephen

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[ cf-dev ] Font in plain text emails

2003-11-13 Thread Sandeep Shetty
Hi,
When sending out plain text emails, we have noticed that with cfmx plain
text emails appear in Arial font in ms outlook. It used to be times new
roman before. 
Our client has noticed this difference and requested whether verdana is
possible instead of arial in plain text email...
Would it be possible. Have a feeling its something to do with charset
attribute.set to UTF-8 in our case..which makes the font appear in Arial by
default?
Know it wudnt be possible normally in plaintext emails but then why plain
text emails would be appearing in Arial with mx instead of times new roman.

Any advice much appreciated.

Thanks in advance,
Sandeep

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