[ cf-dev ] umlauts and cfmx

2004-09-10 Thread Rich Wild








Hmm, me again with my multilingual stuff, its tedious
I know, sorry.



Im having a problem with umlauts ΓΌ



I have a form field that I insert foreign characters into.
Now into this I can insert anything. On my action page in my SQL
statements Im using the N prefix around my columns to
protect these characters from being translated  and it all works fine,
the doppel-S symbol, accented chars, even Chinese all go through fine 
but for some reason, everytime I try and umlauted u, it saves it as ue,
no matter what I try.



Any ideas?








RE: [ cf-dev ] umlauts and cfmx[Scanned]

2004-09-10 Thread Rich Wild
I'm going to take a stick to your head.

 Any ideas?

Get a real database like mySQL, rather than these cheap solutions like 
MS SQL Server. Never had any bother with mySQL ;oD



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RE: [ cf-dev ] umlauts and cfmx[Scanned]

2004-09-10 Thread Rich Wild
Bit of clarification on this - this is NOT a database issue.

I'm dumping the variable *before* it gets to the database and its
already been converted to 'ue'.

Now, I've tried cfset setEncoding(form, utf-8) to no avail.

If it helps, the update is being performed by a CFC (shouldn't make any
difference though...)

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I'm going to take a stick to your head.

 Any ideas?

Get a real database like mySQL, rather than these cheap solutions like 
MS SQL Server. Never had any bother with mySQL ;oD



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RE: [ cf-dev ] umlauts and cfmx[Scanned]

2004-09-10 Thread Rich Wild
Interestingly, the debug info from the cf server displays the character
properly, but a cfdump shows that the char has been converted.

Hm. Something fishy is afoot here

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Rich Wild wrote:

Bit of clarification on this - this is NOT a database issue.

I'm dumping the variable *before* it gets to the database and its
already been converted to 'ue'.

Now, I've tried cfset setEncoding(form, utf-8) to no avail.

If it helps, the update is being performed by a CFC (shouldn't make any
difference though...)
  

heh - sorry about before.

Its not browser/os related is it?  I can't see it being CF, as I'm 
pretty certain the app I've got international characters going through 
doesn't do anything special and has umlauts dotted about.




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RE: [ cf-dev ] umlauts and cfmx[Scanned]

2004-09-10 Thread Rich Wild
No - it's a simple type an umlaut into a form field, display on next
page.

I'm checking to see if some complete bozo has edited
formurl2attributes.cfm to do something crazy, but its only happening on
umlauts. Every other special char is absolutely fine. Its bizarre...

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 Hm. Something fishy is afoot here

You're not doing anything like writing the text to file and then reading
it back in again are you?  CFMX has real issues writing out UTF-8
encoded text files (i.e. it can't do it).

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RE: [ cf-dev ] umlauts and cfmx[Scanned]

2004-09-10 Thread Rich Wild
Hmmm. It appears is *is* formurl2attributes.cfm that's the culprit, but
I can't see where in the code its doing it. It appears to be a standard
copy.

The pre-existing code was referencing attributes.myVar, which came back
with the umlaut replaced. Switching to just form.myVar gave me the
proper version.

Does anyone know where it would be doing this?

Fusebox + Wild = not see eye to eye.


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Sent: 10 September 2004 11:21
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Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] umlauts and cfmx[Scanned]

No - it's a simple type an umlaut into a form field, display on next
page.

I'm checking to see if some complete bozo has edited
formurl2attributes.cfm to do something crazy, but its only happening on
umlauts. Every other special char is absolutely fine. Its bizarre...

-Original Message-
From: Tim Blair [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 10 September 2004 11:16
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] umlauts and cfmx[Scanned]

 Hm. Something fishy is afoot here

You're not doing anything like writing the text to file and then reading
it back in again are you?  CFMX has real issues writing out UTF-8
encoded text files (i.e. it can't do it).

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[ cf-dev ] CFQUERYPARAM and multilingual sites

2004-09-07 Thread Rich Wild
Hello all.

Ok, this harks back to the thread we had a while back about using the N
prefix in front of nvarchar, nchar or ntext columns in SQL statements to
insert special language characters such as umlauts etc.

That's all great, but now joy of joys I've inherited another site that
is supposed to be multilingual (and hence has to support special
characters) but which uses CFQUERYPARAM all the way through the site.

Now as far as I can see, CFQUERYPARAM doesn't have nvarchar settings.

So, I thinks, this should be easy to fix still. In my sql code in CF,
I'll just replace every instance of:

CFQUERYPARAM CFSQLTYPE=CF_SQL_VARCHAR.

Etc to the following:

NCFQUERYPARAM CFSQLTYPE=CF_SQL_VARCHAR

(ie just with a preceeding N)

Does this work? 

Do you really think things would be so easy? Good grief man! Are you not
a CF developer? Do things ever work easily?

No, it appears that CFQUERYPARAM inserts a space just before the
'VARCHAR DATA' it creates, so my resulting T-SQL is:

N 'VARCHAR DATA' and not N'VARCHAR DATA' as it should be.

Deep sigh...

Can anyone figure out a fudge for this, or do I have to replace every
instance of cfqueryparam in the site? It's a massive sprawling site and
it'll take me completely ages. DAYS.


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RE: [ cf-dev ] CFQUERYPARAM and multilingual sites[Scanned]

2004-09-07 Thread Rich Wild
Possibly - depends.

Some columns are nvarchar and some are normal varchar.

If I regex every instance of 

CFQUERYPARAM CFSQLTYPE=CF_SQL_VARCHAR.

To 

N'#myVariable#'

Will be standard (non multilingual) content blow up?

Ie, will a normal varchar column blow up when a N'' command is used?

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Sent: 07 September 2004 15:17
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Sounds like a job for a RegEx GREP 




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From: Rich Wild [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 07 September 2004 15:12
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ cf-dev ] CFQUERYPARAM and multilingual sites

Hello all.

Ok, this harks back to the thread we had a while back about using the N
prefix in front of nvarchar, nchar or ntext columns in SQL statements to
insert special language characters such as umlauts etc.

That's all great, but now joy of joys I've inherited another site that
is supposed to be multilingual (and hence has to support special
characters) but which uses CFQUERYPARAM all the way through the site.

Now as far as I can see, CFQUERYPARAM doesn't have nvarchar settings.

So, I thinks, this should be easy to fix still. In my sql code in CF,
I'll just replace every instance of:

CFQUERYPARAM CFSQLTYPE=CF_SQL_VARCHAR.

Etc to the following:

NCFQUERYPARAM CFSQLTYPE=CF_SQL_VARCHAR

(ie just with a preceeding N)

Does this work? 

Do you really think things would be so easy? Good grief man! Are you not
a CF developer? Do things ever work easily?

No, it appears that CFQUERYPARAM inserts a space just before the
'VARCHAR DATA' it creates, so my resulting T-SQL is:

N 'VARCHAR DATA' and not N'VARCHAR DATA' as it should be.

Deep sigh...

Can anyone figure out a fudge for this, or do I have to replace every
instance of cfqueryparam in the site? It's a massive sprawling site and
it'll take me completely ages. DAYS.


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RE: [ cf-dev ] CFQUERYPARAM and multilingual sites[Scanned]

2004-09-07 Thread Rich Wild
Good.

Ta.

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Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] CFQUERYPARAM and multilingual sites[Scanned]

No, the Native format attribute works across both datatypes. (and
others)..it should be finegive it a testgo on ... ;-)



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From: Rich Wild [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 07 September 2004 15:22
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] CFQUERYPARAM and multilingual sites[Scanned]

Possibly - depends.

Some columns are nvarchar and some are normal varchar.

If I regex every instance of 

CFQUERYPARAM CFSQLTYPE=CF_SQL_VARCHAR.

To 

N'#myVariable#'

Will be standard (non multilingual) content blow up?

Ie, will a normal varchar column blow up when a N'' command is used?

-Original Message-
From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 07 September 2004 15:17
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] CFQUERYPARAM and multilingual sites[Scanned]

Sounds like a job for a RegEx GREP 




-Original Message-
From: Rich Wild [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 07 September 2004 15:12
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ cf-dev ] CFQUERYPARAM and multilingual sites

Hello all.

Ok, this harks back to the thread we had a while back about using the N
prefix in front of nvarchar, nchar or ntext columns in SQL statements to
insert special language characters such as umlauts etc.

That's all great, but now joy of joys I've inherited another site that
is supposed to be multilingual (and hence has to support special
characters) but which uses CFQUERYPARAM all the way through the site.

Now as far as I can see, CFQUERYPARAM doesn't have nvarchar settings.

So, I thinks, this should be easy to fix still. In my sql code in CF,
I'll just replace every instance of:

CFQUERYPARAM CFSQLTYPE=CF_SQL_VARCHAR.

Etc to the following:

NCFQUERYPARAM CFSQLTYPE=CF_SQL_VARCHAR

(ie just with a preceeding N)

Does this work? 

Do you really think things would be so easy? Good grief man! Are you not
a CF developer? Do things ever work easily?

No, it appears that CFQUERYPARAM inserts a space just before the
'VARCHAR DATA' it creates, so my resulting T-SQL is:

N 'VARCHAR DATA' and not N'VARCHAR DATA' as it should be.

Deep sigh...

Can anyone figure out a fudge for this, or do I have to replace every
instance of cfqueryparam in the site? It's a massive sprawling site and
it'll take me completely ages. DAYS.


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RE: [ cf-dev ] CFQUERYPARAM and multilingual sites[Scanned]

2004-09-07 Thread Rich Wild
No. dynamic SQL (column names, table owners etc).

Can be done, but sod that. Why make life difficult?

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Sent: 07 September 2004 15:44
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Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] CFQUERYPARAM and multilingual sites[Scanned]

Yeah and go full hogrewrite the whole thing in SP's



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Sent: 07 September 2004 15:27
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Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] CFQUERYPARAM and multilingual sites[Scanned]

Don't forget to make a back up before you try it... ;o)

Rich Wild wrote:

Good.

Ta.

-Original Message-
From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
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Sent: 07 September 2004 15:27
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] CFQUERYPARAM and multilingual sites[Scanned]

No, the Native format attribute works across both datatypes. (and
others)..it should be finegive it a testgo on ... ;-)



-Original Message-
From: Rich Wild [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 07 September 2004 15:22
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] CFQUERYPARAM and multilingual sites[Scanned]

Possibly - depends.

Some columns are nvarchar and some are normal varchar.

If I regex every instance of 

CFQUERYPARAM CFSQLTYPE=CF_SQL_VARCHAR.

To 

N'#myVariable#'

Will be standard (non multilingual) content blow up?

Ie, will a normal varchar column blow up when a N'' command is used?

-Original Message-
From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 07 September 2004 15:17
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] CFQUERYPARAM and multilingual sites[Scanned]

Sounds like a job for a RegEx GREP 




-Original Message-
From: Rich Wild [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 07 September 2004 15:12
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ cf-dev ] CFQUERYPARAM and multilingual sites

Hello all.

Ok, this harks back to the thread we had a while back about using the N
prefix in front of nvarchar, nchar or ntext columns in SQL statements
to
insert special language characters such as umlauts etc.

That's all great, but now joy of joys I've inherited another site that
is supposed to be multilingual (and hence has to support special
characters) but which uses CFQUERYPARAM all the way through the site.

Now as far as I can see, CFQUERYPARAM doesn't have nvarchar settings.

So, I thinks, this should be easy to fix still. In my sql code in CF,
I'll just replace every instance of:

CFQUERYPARAM CFSQLTYPE=CF_SQL_VARCHAR.

Etc to the following:

NCFQUERYPARAM CFSQLTYPE=CF_SQL_VARCHAR

(ie just with a preceeding N)

Does this work? 

Do you really think things would be so easy? Good grief man! Are you
not
a CF developer? Do things ever work easily?

No, it appears that CFQUERYPARAM inserts a space just before the
'VARCHAR DATA' it creates, so my resulting T-SQL is:

N 'VARCHAR DATA' and not N'VARCHAR DATA' as it should be.

Deep sigh...

Can anyone figure out a fudge for this, or do I have to replace every
instance of cfqueryparam in the site? It's a massive sprawling site and
it'll take me completely ages. DAYS.


  




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RE: [ cf-dev ] CFQUERYPARAM and multilingual sites[Scanned]

2004-09-07 Thread Rich Wild
9645 REGEX replacements made.

Nice.

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Don't forget to make a back up before you try it... ;o)

Rich Wild wrote:

Good.

Ta.

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Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] CFQUERYPARAM and multilingual sites[Scanned]

No, the Native format attribute works across both datatypes. (and
others)..it should be finegive it a testgo on ... ;-)



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Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] CFQUERYPARAM and multilingual sites[Scanned]

Possibly - depends.

Some columns are nvarchar and some are normal varchar.

If I regex every instance of 

CFQUERYPARAM CFSQLTYPE=CF_SQL_VARCHAR.

To 

N'#myVariable#'

Will be standard (non multilingual) content blow up?

Ie, will a normal varchar column blow up when a N'' command is used?

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Sounds like a job for a RegEx GREP 




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Subject: [ cf-dev ] CFQUERYPARAM and multilingual sites

Hello all.

Ok, this harks back to the thread we had a while back about using the N
prefix in front of nvarchar, nchar or ntext columns in SQL statements
to
insert special language characters such as umlauts etc.

That's all great, but now joy of joys I've inherited another site that
is supposed to be multilingual (and hence has to support special
characters) but which uses CFQUERYPARAM all the way through the site.

Now as far as I can see, CFQUERYPARAM doesn't have nvarchar settings.

So, I thinks, this should be easy to fix still. In my sql code in CF,
I'll just replace every instance of:

CFQUERYPARAM CFSQLTYPE=CF_SQL_VARCHAR.

Etc to the following:

NCFQUERYPARAM CFSQLTYPE=CF_SQL_VARCHAR

(ie just with a preceeding N)

Does this work? 

Do you really think things would be so easy? Good grief man! Are you
not
a CF developer? Do things ever work easily?

No, it appears that CFQUERYPARAM inserts a space just before the
'VARCHAR DATA' it creates, so my resulting T-SQL is:

N 'VARCHAR DATA' and not N'VARCHAR DATA' as it should be.

Deep sigh...

Can anyone figure out a fudge for this, or do I have to replace every
instance of cfqueryparam in the site? It's a massive sprawling site and
it'll take me completely ages. DAYS.


  




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RE: [ cf-dev ] OT: JS Bold first letter[Scanned]

2004-08-17 Thread Rich Wild
You can't have more than one style on the contents of a form field.

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Erm, don't think so, it's in a form field (more than one on the page)

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Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] OT: JS Bold first letter

Can you use css?
E.g.
style
p:first-letter {font-weight: bold;}
/style
/head

body
p
This is a test
/p

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Got a bit of a brain fuzz, anyone got any JS which will embolden the
first
letter of a string being typed into a text field?

N


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[ cf-dev ] Realchat and CFMX

2004-08-13 Thread Rich Wild








I have a requirement to integrate the java-based
Realchat chat server with CF. Has anyone done this before?



Is it a case of issuing HTTP commands or is there an
API I can hook into via createobject() etc



Ta



Rich








RE: [ cf-dev ] OT: Amazon affiliates[Scanned]

2004-08-03 Thread Rich Wild
Yay - 

funjunkie-21 please.



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Anyone here have an Amazon.co.uk affiliates account?  I've got one on a
personal site, and used to use it to put through my own transactions,
bumping up my commissions.  But they seem to have cottoned on to this
and
are now deducting the amount from my own sales.  So does anyone else
want
to make a few pennies on their account?  Gimme a URL or your affiliate
ID
and I'll go buy a couple CD's...


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RE: [ cf-dev ] OT: Amazon affiliates[Scanned]

2004-08-03 Thread Rich Wild
Aye - will do - I post affiliate ids all the time in my forums - I'll
add yours!

Ta Duncan!

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nice one, expect the monies in your affiliate account any time now.
duncancumming-21 if you want to return the favour.




 

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Please respond to dev

 

 




Yay -

funjunkie-21 please.



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Anyone here have an Amazon.co.uk affiliates account?  I've got one on a
personal site, and used to use it to put through my own transactions,
bumping up my commissions.  But they seem to have cottoned on to this
and
are now deducting the amount from my own sales.  So does anyone else
want
to make a few pennies on their account?  Gimme a URL or your affiliate
ID
and I'll go buy a couple CD's...


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RE: [ cf-dev ] mySQL command equivalent in SQL Server[Scanned]

2004-07-16 Thread Rich Wild
I guess that shows the table generation script for that table?

If so, you can generate scripts from enterprise manager.

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mySQL has a great little SQL command SHOW CREATE TABLE 'tablename'
Does SQL Server have an equivalent?

Regards

Stephen


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RE: [ cf-dev ] mySQL command equivalent in SQL Server[Scanned]

2004-07-16 Thread Rich Wild
Hmmm - not sure about that - but I do know that you can run various
system stored procs against a table to retrieve the info

There are loads like 

sp_help 'tablename'
sp_helpconstraint 'tablename'
sp_helpindex 'tablename'

that return the kind of info you're requiring. 

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Rich Wild wrote:

I guess that shows the table generation script for that table?

If so, you can generate scripts from enterprise manager.
  

Yeah sorry - thats what it does.

Unfortunately, I don't have access to the database from Enterprise 
manager, but I do have admin access via CF/ODBC, which is why I'm 
looking at SQL ways to get the info I need. I need to get the 
information about a table and any constraints that may be applied to 
that table, so that I can create a script to suck the structure and data

out and then create a SQL script that can be applied to another server.

Regards

Stephen




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RE: [ cf-dev ] mySQL command equivalent in SQL Server[Scanned]

2004-07-16 Thread Rich Wild
Oops! - sp_help returns pretty much everything you need on its own.

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Rich Wild wrote:

I guess that shows the table generation script for that table?

If so, you can generate scripts from enterprise manager.
  

Yeah sorry - thats what it does.

Unfortunately, I don't have access to the database from Enterprise 
manager, but I do have admin access via CF/ODBC, which is why I'm 
looking at SQL ways to get the info I need. I need to get the 
information about a table and any constraints that may be applied to 
that table, so that I can create a script to suck the structure and data

out and then create a SQL script that can be applied to another server.

Regards

Stephen




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RE: [ cf-dev ] (not) activedit and polish chars[Scanned]

2004-07-14 Thread Rich Wild
Cheers Gene, yea that works for me too.

Problem is, I'm worried about having Polish as the database default when I'm not just 
storing Polish content, I'm storing X number of other languages as well.

Its strange we have a database containing Chinese characters using a Latin collation, 
both as database default AND column collation.

I can't figure it out. 

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Rich,

What collation did you select when creating the database?

I have just been through your process, selecting polish_CS_AS_KS_WS as the
collation for the database.

The queries then work with the correct characters being added and retrieved
from the db.


Cheers
Gene


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Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] (not) activedit and polish chars[Scanned]

Ok - I did the following:

New database
New table ('test' - columns: line_id NUMERIC IDENTITY, content NTEXT)
INSERT INTO test(content)
VALUES('Znajd Pastwo  Zachcamy')

SELECT content FROM test

Results: ' Znajda Panstwo  Zachecamy ' (ie, lost all the special chars.)

This was all in Query Analyser.


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Have u tried, make a new database, create a new table, set the coalition and
ntext, try the insert..
At least u will know if it's just that database being silly then. 

 -Original Message-
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 Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] (not) activedit and polish chars[Scanned]
 
 Via query analyzer I can insert Chinese text into the first 
 table, but not the second (well, it goes in, but it doesn't 
 come out chinese)
 
 Both columns are ntext, default collation
 
 Both collations are the same for both databases.
 
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 Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] (not) activedit and polish chars[Scanned]
 
 Can u insert the same text into both database via query 
 analyser? Or does it only fail on the polish one.
 Check the coalition setting of the DATABASE properties for 
 both databases (not just the tables) and see what the default 
 is set to.
 
 
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  Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] (not) activedit and polish chars[Scanned]
  
  Hmmm - more information.
  
  I have 2 databases on the *same* sql server. 
  
  One has a table with an ntext column, default collation, 
 that contains 
  Chinese characters
  
  The other has a table with an ntext column, default collation. Ie 
  identical.
  
  How come one can contain Chinese characters, but when (in Query 
  Analyser, so not through CF at all) I insert those 
 characters (through 
  a cut and pasting from a select on the chinese table) into my other 
  column, and then select, I get nothing out but gibberish characters?
  
  I'm very confused. They *can't* be identical! There must be 
 something 
  different between the two.
  
  Just what the hell is it?
  
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  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] (not) activedit and polish chars[Scanned]
  
  Thanks Mark. 
  
  Nothing really there that's resolved the issue, but I 
 appreciate it, 
  ta.
  
  This is weird. I've discovered another app here developed before I 
  arrived that sends out Chinese character emails. The 
 collation on that 
  table is the default (latin), but the datasource is configured for 
  non-western alphabet. I've restored the collation on my 
 table to the 
  same (database default - latin) but still no dice.
  
  It'd be fine if I wasn't racing deadlines. Gah.
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Mark Smyth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 13 July 2004 15:28
  To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
  Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] (not) activedit and polish chars[Scanned]
  
  Weird
  
  The only other time I have had trouble with SQl Server and 
 languages 
  is when character sets used within SQL Server were playing up.
  
  This caused me a big problem a couple of years ago with SQL 
 Server 7, 
  but I thought it was resolved with 2000.
  
  That's the only other thing which springs to mind Mark
  
  http://www.databasejournal.com/features/mssql/article.phpr/1587631
  This article talks about the problem I encountered, but 
 also mentions 
  collation at column level
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Rich Wild [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 13 July 2004 15:20
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: [ cf-dev

RE: [ cf-dev ] (not) activedit and polish chars[Scanned]

2004-07-14 Thread Rich Wild
You'll all be overjoyed no doubt to learn that I've discovered the problem.

So for those of you interested:

On my insert, in the SQL syntax, rather than

INSERT INTO dbTable(content)
VALUES('#content#')

It should be:

INSERT INTO dbTable(content)
VALUES(N'#content#')

(Note the N)

I can't find any SQL BOL info on that - can anyone find it? I presume it tells SQL 
Server to expect Unicode data and so not to perform any translation on the characters?

This means that the collation on the column and database can remain on my default 
Latin (western European) and I can store whatever character set I like in there, 
confusingly.

-Original Message-
From: Rich Wild [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 14 July 2004 09:36
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] (not) activedit and polish chars[Scanned]

Cheers Gene, yea that works for me too.

Problem is, I'm worried about having Polish as the database default when I'm not just 
storing Polish content, I'm storing X number of other languages as well.

Its strange we have a database containing Chinese characters using a Latin collation, 
both as database default AND column collation.

I can't figure it out. 

-Original Message-
From: Gene Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 13 July 2004 17:52
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] (not) activedit and polish chars[Scanned]

Rich,

What collation did you select when creating the database?

I have just been through your process, selecting polish_CS_AS_KS_WS as the
collation for the database.

The queries then work with the correct characters being added and retrieved
from the db.


Cheers
Gene


-Original Message-
From: Rich Wild [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 13 July 2004 17:03
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] (not) activedit and polish chars[Scanned]

Ok - I did the following:

New database
New table ('test' - columns: line_id NUMERIC IDENTITY, content NTEXT)
INSERT INTO test(content)
VALUES('Znajd Pastwo  Zachcamy')

SELECT content FROM test

Results: ' Znajda Panstwo  Zachecamy ' (ie, lost all the special chars.)

This was all in Query Analyser.


-Original Message-
From: Snake Hollywood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 13 July 2004 16:44
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] (not) activedit and polish chars[Scanned]

Have u tried, make a new database, create a new table, set the coalition and
ntext, try the insert..
At least u will know if it's just that database being silly then. 

 -Original Message-
 From: Rich Wild [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 13 July 2004 16:31
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] (not) activedit and polish chars[Scanned]
 
 Via query analyzer I can insert Chinese text into the first 
 table, but not the second (well, it goes in, but it doesn't 
 come out chinese)
 
 Both columns are ntext, default collation
 
 Both collations are the same for both databases.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Snake Hollywood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 13 July 2004 16:27
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] (not) activedit and polish chars[Scanned]
 
 Can u insert the same text into both database via query 
 analyser? Or does it only fail on the polish one.
 Check the coalition setting of the DATABASE properties for 
 both databases (not just the tables) and see what the default 
 is set to.
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Rich Wild [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 13 July 2004 16:17
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] (not) activedit and polish chars[Scanned]
  
  Hmmm - more information.
  
  I have 2 databases on the *same* sql server. 
  
  One has a table with an ntext column, default collation, 
 that contains 
  Chinese characters
  
  The other has a table with an ntext column, default collation. Ie 
  identical.
  
  How come one can contain Chinese characters, but when (in Query 
  Analyser, so not through CF at all) I insert those 
 characters (through 
  a cut and pasting from a select on the chinese table) into my other 
  column, and then select, I get nothing out but gibberish characters?
  
  I'm very confused. They *can't* be identical! There must be 
 something 
  different between the two.
  
  Just what the hell is it?
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Rich Wild [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 13 July 2004 15:42
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] (not) activedit and polish chars[Scanned]
  
  Thanks Mark. 
  
  Nothing really there that's resolved the issue, but I 
 appreciate it, 
  ta.
  
  This is weird. I've discovered another app here developed before I 
  arrived that sends out Chinese character emails. The 
 collation on that 
  table is the default (latin), but the datasource is configured for 
  non-western alphabet. I've restored the collation on my 
 table to the 
  same (database default - latin) but still no dice.
  
  It'd be fine if I wasn't racing deadlines. Gah.
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Mark Smyth

[ cf-dev ] activedit and polish chars

2004-07-13 Thread Rich Wild
Hi Guys,


I've got a problem inputting polish characters into an activedit form. I have my 
application encoding set to utf-8, as well as the charset in HTML, but whenever I save 
the content to the database (ntext column type), all the special characters are 
replaces with standard european ones
not sure if this will work, but here's an attempt at an example:
for instance, 'Zachcamy' becomes 'Zachecamy'
can anyone shed any light on this for me?

Ta.

Rich



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RE: [ cf-dev ] (not) activedit and polish chars

2004-07-13 Thread Rich Wild
Ok - some more info on this: its not activedit, (sorry cfdev.com, my apologies)

I replaced the activedit with a textarea and the same thing happened. So somewhere 
along the line my special chars are being replaced by the app or the DB. The db is a 
column of type ntext, and the app has cfset setEncoding(form, utf-8) in the 
application.cfm

Hmmm.

-Original Message-
From: Rich Wild [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 13 July 2004 13:57
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ cf-dev ] activedit and polish chars[Scanned]

Hi Guys,


I've got a problem inputting polish characters into an activedit form. I have my 
application encoding set to utf-8, as well as the charset in HTML, but whenever I save 
the content to the database (ntext column type), all the special characters are 
replaces with standard european ones
not sure if this will work, but here's an attempt at an example:
for instance, 'Zachcamy' becomes 'Zachecamy'
can anyone shed any light on this for me?

Ta.

Rich



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RE: [ cf-dev ] (not) activedit and polish chars[Scanned]

2004-07-13 Thread Rich Wild
Hi Stephen,

The characters are still there just before insert into the db. The db is
SQL Server 2000.

JDBC wouldn't do anything to it, would it?

-Original Message-
From: Stephen Moretti (cfmaster) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 13 July 2004 14:16
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] (not) activedit and polish chars[Scanned]

Rich Wild wrote:

Ok - some more info on this: its not activedit, (sorry cfdev.com, my
apologies)

I replaced the activedit with a textarea and the same thing happened.
So somewhere along the line my special chars are being replaced by the
app or the DB. The db is a column of type ntext, and the app has cfset
setEncoding(form, utf-8) in the application.cfm

Hmmm.
  

Rich,

Whats your db?  I know mySQL needs additional connection strings to 
enable special characters and I think there are similar things for other

databases. 

Are the special characters there if you output the form variable before 
you insert the content into the db?  and all that debuggin jazz

Stephen


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RE: [ cf-dev ] (not) activedit and polish chars[Scanned]

2004-07-13 Thread Rich Wild
Hmmm - I think it may be the collection on that ntext column.

The problem is that I need to store western European AND polish chars in
the same column. Can I do this when using the polish collation?

-Original Message-
From: Rich Wild [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 13 July 2004 14:33
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] (not) activedit and polish chars[Scanned]

Hi Stephen,

The characters are still there just before insert into the db. The db is
SQL Server 2000.

JDBC wouldn't do anything to it, would it?

-Original Message-
From: Stephen Moretti (cfmaster) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 13 July 2004 14:16
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] (not) activedit and polish chars[Scanned]

Rich Wild wrote:

Ok - some more info on this: its not activedit, (sorry cfdev.com, my
apologies)

I replaced the activedit with a textarea and the same thing happened.
So somewhere along the line my special chars are being replaced by the
app or the DB. The db is a column of type ntext, and the app has cfset
setEncoding(form, utf-8) in the application.cfm

Hmmm.
  

Rich,

Whats your db?  I know mySQL needs additional connection strings to 
enable special characters and I think there are similar things for other

databases. 

Are the special characters there if you output the form variable before 
you insert the content into the db?  and all that debuggin jazz

Stephen


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RE: [ cf-dev ] (not) activedit and polish chars[Scanned]

2004-07-13 Thread Rich Wild
 Hmmm - I think it may be the collection on that ntext column.

Sorry, collation, not collection.

-Original Message-
From: Rich Wild [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 13 July 2004 14:37
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] (not) activedit and polish chars[Scanned]

Hmmm - I think it may be the collection on that ntext column.

The problem is that I need to store western European AND polish chars in
the same column. Can I do this when using the polish collation?

-Original Message-
From: Rich Wild [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 13 July 2004 14:33
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] (not) activedit and polish chars[Scanned]

Hi Stephen,

The characters are still there just before insert into the db. The db is
SQL Server 2000.

JDBC wouldn't do anything to it, would it?

-Original Message-
From: Stephen Moretti (cfmaster) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 13 July 2004 14:16
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] (not) activedit and polish chars[Scanned]

Rich Wild wrote:

Ok - some more info on this: its not activedit, (sorry cfdev.com, my
apologies)

I replaced the activedit with a textarea and the same thing happened.
So somewhere along the line my special chars are being replaced by the
app or the DB. The db is a column of type ntext, and the app has cfset
setEncoding(form, utf-8) in the application.cfm

Hmmm.
  

Rich,

Whats your db?  I know mySQL needs additional connection strings to 
enable special characters and I think there are similar things for other

databases. 

Are the special characters there if you output the form variable before 
you insert the content into the db?  and all that debuggin jazz

Stephen


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RE: [ cf-dev ] (not) activedit and polish chars[Scanned]

2004-07-13 Thread Rich Wild
Hmmm - as a test I changed the collation on that column to
SQL_polish_SP1250_CS_AS and to SQL_polish_SP1250_IS_AS

Both failed to save the characters again... hmmm.. stumped...

-Original Message-
From: Rich Wild [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 13 July 2004 14:45
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] (not) activedit and polish chars[Scanned]

 Hmmm - I think it may be the collection on that ntext column.

Sorry, collation, not collection.

-Original Message-
From: Rich Wild [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 13 July 2004 14:37
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] (not) activedit and polish chars[Scanned]

Hmmm - I think it may be the collection on that ntext column.

The problem is that I need to store western European AND polish chars in
the same column. Can I do this when using the polish collation?

-Original Message-
From: Rich Wild [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 13 July 2004 14:33
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] (not) activedit and polish chars[Scanned]

Hi Stephen,

The characters are still there just before insert into the db. The db is
SQL Server 2000.

JDBC wouldn't do anything to it, would it?

-Original Message-
From: Stephen Moretti (cfmaster) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 13 July 2004 14:16
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] (not) activedit and polish chars[Scanned]

Rich Wild wrote:

Ok - some more info on this: its not activedit, (sorry cfdev.com, my
apologies)

I replaced the activedit with a textarea and the same thing happened.
So somewhere along the line my special chars are being replaced by the
app or the DB. The db is a column of type ntext, and the app has cfset
setEncoding(form, utf-8) in the application.cfm

Hmmm.
  

Rich,

Whats your db?  I know mySQL needs additional connection strings to 
enable special characters and I think there are similar things for other

databases. 

Are the special characters there if you output the form variable before 
you insert the content into the db?  and all that debuggin jazz

Stephen


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RE: [ cf-dev ] (not) activedit and polish chars[Scanned]

2004-07-13 Thread Rich Wild
Discovered an option in the datasource in CFMX admin to  Enable Unicode
for data sources configured for non-Latin characters 

Did it work on my now polish collated columns? Nope.

This is beginning to try my patience. I bet its something simple.

Someone else out there must be storing non-western alphabet in sql
server?

-Original Message-
From: Rich Wild [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 13 July 2004 14:51
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] (not) activedit and polish chars[Scanned]

Hmmm - as a test I changed the collation on that column to
SQL_polish_SP1250_CS_AS and to SQL_polish_SP1250_IS_AS

Both failed to save the characters again... hmmm.. stumped...

-Original Message-
From: Rich Wild [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 13 July 2004 14:45
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] (not) activedit and polish chars[Scanned]

 Hmmm - I think it may be the collection on that ntext column.

Sorry, collation, not collection.

-Original Message-
From: Rich Wild [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 13 July 2004 14:37
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] (not) activedit and polish chars[Scanned]

Hmmm - I think it may be the collection on that ntext column.

The problem is that I need to store western European AND polish chars in
the same column. Can I do this when using the polish collation?

-Original Message-
From: Rich Wild [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 13 July 2004 14:33
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] (not) activedit and polish chars[Scanned]

Hi Stephen,

The characters are still there just before insert into the db. The db is
SQL Server 2000.

JDBC wouldn't do anything to it, would it?

-Original Message-
From: Stephen Moretti (cfmaster) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 13 July 2004 14:16
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] (not) activedit and polish chars[Scanned]

Rich Wild wrote:

Ok - some more info on this: its not activedit, (sorry cfdev.com, my
apologies)

I replaced the activedit with a textarea and the same thing happened.
So somewhere along the line my special chars are being replaced by the
app or the DB. The db is a column of type ntext, and the app has cfset
setEncoding(form, utf-8) in the application.cfm

Hmmm.
  

Rich,

Whats your db?  I know mySQL needs additional connection strings to 
enable special characters and I think there are similar things for other

databases. 

Are the special characters there if you output the form variable before 
you insert the content into the db?  and all that debuggin jazz

Stephen


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RE: [ cf-dev ] (not) activedit and polish chars[Scanned]

2004-07-13 Thread Rich Wild
But I'm just using a simple cfquery to insert straight into the table
and the column is ntext and the collation is now polish, and the
datasource has been configured to use Unicode.

I'm utterly stumped!

-Original Message-
From: Mark Smyth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 13 July 2004 15:16
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] (not) activedit and polish chars[Scanned]

I've had this problem with chinese and sql server.

It was the tmp table used in a stored procedure, the column in the tmp
table
was not ntext (so it was losing the formatting) within the stored
procedure

It's worth a look...
Mark

-Original Message-
From: Stephen Moretti (cfmaster) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 13 July 2004 15:00
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] (not) activedit and polish chars[Scanned]



Someone else out there must be storing non-western alphabet in sql 
server?
  

I do just not in SQL Server - it was dead simple with mySQL.

All I had to do was add the following to the connection string.

useUnicode=truecharacterEncoding=ISO8859_1

Everything worked without additional help after that.

Stephen


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RE: [ cf-dev ] (not) activedit and polish chars[Scanned]

2004-07-13 Thread Rich Wild
Thanks Mark. 

Nothing really there that's resolved the issue, but I appreciate it, ta.

This is weird. I've discovered another app here developed before I
arrived that sends out Chinese character emails. The collation on that
table is the default (latin), but the datasource is configured for
non-western alphabet. I've restored the collation on my table to the
same (database default - latin) but still no dice.

It'd be fine if I wasn't racing deadlines. Gah.

-Original Message-
From: Mark Smyth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 13 July 2004 15:28
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] (not) activedit and polish chars[Scanned]

Weird

The only other time I have had trouble with SQl Server and languages is
when
character sets used within SQL Server were playing up.

This caused me a big problem a couple of years ago with SQL Server 7,
but I
thought it was resolved with 2000.

That's the only other thing which springs to mind
Mark

http://www.databasejournal.com/features/mssql/article.phpr/1587631
This article talks about the problem I encountered, but also mentions
collation at column level 


-Original Message-
From: Rich Wild [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 13 July 2004 15:20
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] (not) activedit and polish chars[Scanned]


But I'm just using a simple cfquery to insert straight into the table
and
the column is ntext and the collation is now polish, and the datasource
has
been configured to use Unicode.

I'm utterly stumped!

-Original Message-
From: Mark Smyth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 13 July 2004 15:16
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] (not) activedit and polish chars[Scanned]

I've had this problem with chinese and sql server.

It was the tmp table used in a stored procedure, the column in the tmp
table
was not ntext (so it was losing the formatting) within the stored
procedure

It's worth a look...
Mark

-Original Message-
From: Stephen Moretti (cfmaster) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 13 July 2004 15:00
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] (not) activedit and polish chars[Scanned]



Someone else out there must be storing non-western alphabet in sql
server?
  

I do just not in SQL Server - it was dead simple with mySQL.

All I had to do was add the following to the connection string.

useUnicode=truecharacterEncoding=ISO8859_1

Everything worked without additional help after that.

Stephen


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RE: [ cf-dev ] (not) activedit and polish chars[Scanned]

2004-07-13 Thread Rich Wild
Hmmm - more information.

I have 2 databases on the *same* sql server. 

One has a table with an ntext column, default collation, that contains
Chinese characters

The other has a table with an ntext column, default collation. Ie
identical.

How come one can contain Chinese characters, but when (in Query
Analyser, so not through CF at all) I insert those characters (through a
cut and pasting from a select on the chinese table) into my other
column, and then select, I get nothing out but gibberish characters?

I'm very confused. They *can't* be identical! There must be something
different between the two.

Just what the hell is it?

-Original Message-
From: Rich Wild [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 13 July 2004 15:42
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] (not) activedit and polish chars[Scanned]

Thanks Mark. 

Nothing really there that's resolved the issue, but I appreciate it, ta.

This is weird. I've discovered another app here developed before I
arrived that sends out Chinese character emails. The collation on that
table is the default (latin), but the datasource is configured for
non-western alphabet. I've restored the collation on my table to the
same (database default - latin) but still no dice.

It'd be fine if I wasn't racing deadlines. Gah.

-Original Message-
From: Mark Smyth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 13 July 2004 15:28
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] (not) activedit and polish chars[Scanned]

Weird

The only other time I have had trouble with SQl Server and languages is
when
character sets used within SQL Server were playing up.

This caused me a big problem a couple of years ago with SQL Server 7,
but I
thought it was resolved with 2000.

That's the only other thing which springs to mind
Mark

http://www.databasejournal.com/features/mssql/article.phpr/1587631
This article talks about the problem I encountered, but also mentions
collation at column level 


-Original Message-
From: Rich Wild [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 13 July 2004 15:20
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] (not) activedit and polish chars[Scanned]


But I'm just using a simple cfquery to insert straight into the table
and
the column is ntext and the collation is now polish, and the datasource
has
been configured to use Unicode.

I'm utterly stumped!

-Original Message-
From: Mark Smyth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 13 July 2004 15:16
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] (not) activedit and polish chars[Scanned]

I've had this problem with chinese and sql server.

It was the tmp table used in a stored procedure, the column in the tmp
table
was not ntext (so it was losing the formatting) within the stored
procedure

It's worth a look...
Mark

-Original Message-
From: Stephen Moretti (cfmaster) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 13 July 2004 15:00
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] (not) activedit and polish chars[Scanned]



Someone else out there must be storing non-western alphabet in sql
server?
  

I do just not in SQL Server - it was dead simple with mySQL.

All I had to do was add the following to the connection string.

useUnicode=truecharacterEncoding=ISO8859_1

Everything worked without additional help after that.

Stephen


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RE: [ cf-dev ] (not) activedit and polish chars[Scanned]

2004-07-13 Thread Rich Wild
Via query analyzer I can insert Chinese text into the first table, but
not the second (well, it goes in, but it doesn't come out chinese)

Both columns are ntext, default collation

Both collations are the same for both databases.

-Original Message-
From: Snake Hollywood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 13 July 2004 16:27
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] (not) activedit and polish chars[Scanned]

Can u insert the same text into both database via query analyser? Or
does it
only fail on the polish one.
Check the coalition setting of the DATABASE properties for both
databases
(not just the tables) and see what the default is set to.


 -Original Message-
 From: Rich Wild [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 13 July 2004 16:17
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] (not) activedit and polish chars[Scanned]
 
 Hmmm - more information.
 
 I have 2 databases on the *same* sql server. 
 
 One has a table with an ntext column, default collation, that 
 contains Chinese characters
 
 The other has a table with an ntext column, default 
 collation. Ie identical.
 
 How come one can contain Chinese characters, but when (in 
 Query Analyser, so not through CF at all) I insert those 
 characters (through a cut and pasting from a select on the 
 chinese table) into my other column, and then select, I get 
 nothing out but gibberish characters?
 
 I'm very confused. They *can't* be identical! There must be 
 something different between the two.
 
 Just what the hell is it?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Rich Wild [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 13 July 2004 15:42
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] (not) activedit and polish chars[Scanned]
 
 Thanks Mark. 
 
 Nothing really there that's resolved the issue, but I 
 appreciate it, ta.
 
 This is weird. I've discovered another app here developed 
 before I arrived that sends out Chinese character emails. The 
 collation on that table is the default (latin), but the 
 datasource is configured for non-western alphabet. I've 
 restored the collation on my table to the same (database 
 default - latin) but still no dice.
 
 It'd be fine if I wasn't racing deadlines. Gah.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Mark Smyth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 13 July 2004 15:28
 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] (not) activedit and polish chars[Scanned]
 
 Weird
 
 The only other time I have had trouble with SQl Server and 
 languages is when character sets used within SQL Server were 
 playing up.
 
 This caused me a big problem a couple of years ago with SQL 
 Server 7, but I thought it was resolved with 2000.
 
 That's the only other thing which springs to mind Mark
 
 http://www.databasejournal.com/features/mssql/article.phpr/1587631
 This article talks about the problem I encountered, but also 
 mentions collation at column level 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Rich Wild [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 13 July 2004 15:20
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] (not) activedit and polish chars[Scanned]
 
 
 But I'm just using a simple cfquery to insert straight into the table
 and
 the column is ntext and the collation is now polish, and the 
 datasource
 has
 been configured to use Unicode.
 
 I'm utterly stumped!
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Mark Smyth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 13 July 2004 15:16
 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] (not) activedit and polish chars[Scanned]
 
 I've had this problem with chinese and sql server.
 
 It was the tmp table used in a stored procedure, the column in the tmp
 table
 was not ntext (so it was losing the formatting) within the stored
 procedure
 
 It's worth a look...
 Mark
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Stephen Moretti (cfmaster) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 13 July 2004 15:00
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] (not) activedit and polish chars[Scanned]
 
 
 
 Someone else out there must be storing non-western alphabet in sql
 server?
   
 
 I do just not in SQL Server - it was dead simple with mySQL.
 
 All I had to do was add the following to the connection string.
 
 useUnicode=truecharacterEncoding=ISO8859_1
 
 Everything worked without additional help after that.
 
 Stephen
 
 
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RE: [ cf-dev ] (not) activedit and polish chars[Scanned]

2004-07-13 Thread Rich Wild
Ok - I did the following:

New database
New table ('test' - columns: line_id NUMERIC IDENTITY, content NTEXT)
INSERT INTO test(content)
VALUES('Znajd Pastwo  Zachcamy')

SELECT content FROM test

Results: ' Znajda Panstwo  Zachecamy ' (ie, lost all the special chars.)

This was all in Query Analyser.


-Original Message-
From: Snake Hollywood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 13 July 2004 16:44
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] (not) activedit and polish chars[Scanned]

Have u tried, make a new database, create a new table, set the coalition and
ntext, try the insert..
At least u will know if it's just that database being silly then. 

 -Original Message-
 From: Rich Wild [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 13 July 2004 16:31
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] (not) activedit and polish chars[Scanned]
 
 Via query analyzer I can insert Chinese text into the first 
 table, but not the second (well, it goes in, but it doesn't 
 come out chinese)
 
 Both columns are ntext, default collation
 
 Both collations are the same for both databases.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Snake Hollywood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 13 July 2004 16:27
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] (not) activedit and polish chars[Scanned]
 
 Can u insert the same text into both database via query 
 analyser? Or does it only fail on the polish one.
 Check the coalition setting of the DATABASE properties for 
 both databases (not just the tables) and see what the default 
 is set to.
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Rich Wild [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 13 July 2004 16:17
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] (not) activedit and polish chars[Scanned]
  
  Hmmm - more information.
  
  I have 2 databases on the *same* sql server. 
  
  One has a table with an ntext column, default collation, 
 that contains 
  Chinese characters
  
  The other has a table with an ntext column, default collation. Ie 
  identical.
  
  How come one can contain Chinese characters, but when (in Query 
  Analyser, so not through CF at all) I insert those 
 characters (through 
  a cut and pasting from a select on the chinese table) into my other 
  column, and then select, I get nothing out but gibberish characters?
  
  I'm very confused. They *can't* be identical! There must be 
 something 
  different between the two.
  
  Just what the hell is it?
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Rich Wild [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 13 July 2004 15:42
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] (not) activedit and polish chars[Scanned]
  
  Thanks Mark. 
  
  Nothing really there that's resolved the issue, but I 
 appreciate it, 
  ta.
  
  This is weird. I've discovered another app here developed before I 
  arrived that sends out Chinese character emails. The 
 collation on that 
  table is the default (latin), but the datasource is configured for 
  non-western alphabet. I've restored the collation on my 
 table to the 
  same (database default - latin) but still no dice.
  
  It'd be fine if I wasn't racing deadlines. Gah.
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Mark Smyth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 13 July 2004 15:28
  To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
  Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] (not) activedit and polish chars[Scanned]
  
  Weird
  
  The only other time I have had trouble with SQl Server and 
 languages 
  is when character sets used within SQL Server were playing up.
  
  This caused me a big problem a couple of years ago with SQL 
 Server 7, 
  but I thought it was resolved with 2000.
  
  That's the only other thing which springs to mind Mark
  
  http://www.databasejournal.com/features/mssql/article.phpr/1587631
  This article talks about the problem I encountered, but 
 also mentions 
  collation at column level
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Rich Wild [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 13 July 2004 15:20
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] (not) activedit and polish chars[Scanned]
  
  
  But I'm just using a simple cfquery to insert straight into 
 the table 
  and the column is ntext and the collation is now polish, and the 
  datasource has been configured to use Unicode.
  
  I'm utterly stumped!
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Mark Smyth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 13 July 2004 15:16
  To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
  Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] (not) activedit and polish chars[Scanned]
  
  I've had this problem with chinese and sql server.
  
  It was the tmp table used in a stored procedure, the column 
 in the tmp 
  table was not ntext (so it was losing the formatting) within the 
  stored procedure
  
  It's worth a look...
  Mark
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Stephen Moretti (cfmaster) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 13 July 2004 15:00
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] (not) activedit and polish chars[Scanned]
  
  
  
  Someone else out there must be storing non-western alphabet in sql

RE: [ cf-dev ] cfform[Scanned]

2004-06-29 Thread Rich Wild
Yup.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 29 June 2004 14:56
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] cfform[Scanned]


Are you sure you've got the fields 'revision' and 'EditComments' in your
form, with the same-case spelling?

Your bit of script chkRevision should ideally be in the head of your
document, not just above the form.




 

Rich Wild

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Yuck. I've inherited code which I'm debugging and it all uses cfform, a
personal peeve of mine.

Now, perhaps its because I came back from Glastonbury yesterday and so
am a
little bit mental, but I'm trying to get this cfform to fire off a
validation script on submit.

So I've added the onsubmit parameter to the cfform call like thus:

cfform action=index.cfm?fuseaction=act_itemstepsstep=1 method=POST
name=itemFrm enctype=multipart/form-data onsubmit=return
chkRevision
();

And I have the following function declared just above it like thus:

script
function chkRevision() {
if (document.itemFrm.revision.value 
!document.itemFrm.EditComments.value.length) {
alert('Warning!\n\nPlease ensure
that
you have completed the \'Edit Comments\' field.');
return false
} else {
return true
}
}
/script

That should work yea? So why does the JS give me a Object Not Found
error
when run at the browser on this line (which is obviously created by
cfform)

function  _CF_checkitemFrm(_CF_this)
{
if  (!_CF_hasValue(_CF_this.title, TEXT ))
{
if  (!_CF_onError(_CF_this, _CF_this.title,
_CF_this.title.value, Please enter Title))
{
return false;
}
}
return chkRevision();

return true;
}

p.s. I *would* dearly love to turn the whole form into a normal form,
but
there's a lot of work required (large form) to do that and this is a
quick
fix, very unfortunately.

I think I've left my mind in a field.

Ta everyone.

Rich




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RE: [ cf-dev ] cfform[Scanned]

2004-06-29 Thread Rich Wild
 Your bit of script chkRevision should ideally be in the head of your
document, not just above the form.

Why? I've never experienced this before. You can have a script wherever
you like.

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Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] cfform[Scanned]

Yup.

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Are you sure you've got the fields 'revision' and 'EditComments' in your
form, with the same-case spelling?

Your bit of script chkRevision should ideally be in the head of your
document, not just above the form.




 

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Yuck. I've inherited code which I'm debugging and it all uses cfform, a
personal peeve of mine.

Now, perhaps its because I came back from Glastonbury yesterday and so
am a
little bit mental, but I'm trying to get this cfform to fire off a
validation script on submit.

So I've added the onsubmit parameter to the cfform call like thus:

cfform action=index.cfm?fuseaction=act_itemstepsstep=1 method=POST
name=itemFrm enctype=multipart/form-data onsubmit=return
chkRevision
();

And I have the following function declared just above it like thus:

script
function chkRevision() {
if (document.itemFrm.revision.value 
!document.itemFrm.EditComments.value.length) {
alert('Warning!\n\nPlease ensure
that
you have completed the \'Edit Comments\' field.');
return false
} else {
return true
}
}
/script

That should work yea? So why does the JS give me a Object Not Found
error
when run at the browser on this line (which is obviously created by
cfform)

function  _CF_checkitemFrm(_CF_this)
{
if  (!_CF_hasValue(_CF_this.title, TEXT ))
{
if  (!_CF_onError(_CF_this, _CF_this.title,
_CF_this.title.value, Please enter Title))
{
return false;
}
}
return chkRevision();

return true;
}

p.s. I *would* dearly love to turn the whole form into a normal form,
but
there's a lot of work required (large form) to do that and this is a
quick
fix, very unfortunately.

I think I've left my mind in a field.

Ta everyone.

Rich




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RE: [ cf-dev ] cfform[Scanned]

2004-06-29 Thread Rich Wild
Title: Message








Thanks Mark, I agree  but how can I
stop this happening and actually get cfform to kick off an extra custom
validation (ie mine) after *its*
finished? 











From: Mark Smyth
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Sent: 29 June 2004 15:10
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ]
cfform[Scanned]







I think its the onsubmit Rich











When cfform creates the _javascript_
isinitiates the validation by dynamically adding an onsubmit











so what you'd end up with in the browser
is something like











FORM NAME=itemFrm
ACTION=""
METHOD=POST  _CF_checkitemFrm(this)
ENCTYPE=multipart/form-data











its basically overwritting your onsubmit, or it
sounds like they might even be conflicting





hth





mark





-Original Message-----
From: Rich Wild
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 29 June 2004 14:48
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ cf-dev ] cfform

Yuck. I've inherited code which I'm debugging and it
all uses cfform, a personal peeve of mine.



Now, perhaps its because I came back from Glastonbury
yesterday and so am a little bit mental, but I'm trying to get this cfform to
fire off a validation script on submit.



So I've added the onsubmit parameter to the cfform
call like thus:



cfform
action=""
method=POST name=itemFrm
enctype=multipart/form-data 
chkRevision();



And I have the following function declared just above
it like thus:



script

function chkRevision() {


if (document.itemFrm.revision.value 
!document.itemFrm.EditComments.value.length) {


alert('Warning!\n\nPlease ensure that you have completed the \'Edit Comments\'
field.');


return false


} else {


return true


}


}

/script



That should work yea? So why does the JS give me a
Object Not Found error when run at the browser on this line (which is obviously
created by cfform)



function _CF_checkitemFrm(_CF_this)

{


if (!_CF_hasValue(_CF_this.title, TEXT ))


{


if (!_CF_onError(_CF_this, _CF_this.title, _CF_this.title.value,
Please enter Title))


{


return false;


}


}

return chkRevision();




return true;

}



p.s. I *would*
dearly love to turn the whole form into a normal form, but there's a lot of
work required (large form) to do that and this is a quick fix, very
unfortunately. 



I think I've left my mind in a field.



Ta everyone.



Rich










RE: [ cf-dev ] cfform[Scanned]

2004-06-29 Thread Rich Wild
Ok, you're talking stylistic sense and I agree, but with respect, it's a
bit academic in this instance, and nothing to do with why the JS is
kicking off an Object Expected error.

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Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] cfform[Scanned]


you're usually better to have Javascript functions in the head of your
document, so that they load in before the page starts to render.  If
it's
stuff where you actually want to use Javascript to render the content
(e.g.
with some document.writeln commands), then obviously that should be in
the
document body.




 

Rich Wild

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29/06/2004 14:59

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 Your bit of script chkRevision should ideally be in the head of your
document, not just above the form.

Why? I've never experienced this before. You can have a script wherever
you like.

-Original Message-
From: Rich Wild [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 29 June 2004 14:57
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] cfform[Scanned]

Yup.

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Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] cfform[Scanned]


Are you sure you've got the fields 'revision' and 'EditComments' in your
form, with the same-case spelling?

Your bit of script chkRevision should ideally be in the head of your
document, not just above the form.






Rich Wild

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Please respond to dev








Yuck. I've inherited code which I'm debugging and it all uses cfform, a
personal peeve of mine.

Now, perhaps its because I came back from Glastonbury yesterday and so
am a
little bit mental, but I'm trying to get this cfform to fire off a
validation script on submit.

So I've added the onsubmit parameter to the cfform call like thus:

cfform action=index.cfm?fuseaction=act_itemstepsstep=1 method=POST
name=itemFrm enctype=multipart/form-data onsubmit=return
chkRevision
();

And I have the following function declared just above it like thus:

script
function chkRevision() {
if (document.itemFrm.revision.value 
!document.itemFrm.EditComments.value.length) {
alert('Warning!\n\nPlease ensure
that
you have completed the \'Edit Comments\' field.');
return false
} else {
return true
}
}
/script

That should work yea? So why does the JS give me a Object Not Found
error
when run at the browser on this line (which is obviously created by
cfform)

function  _CF_checkitemFrm(_CF_this)
{
if  (!_CF_hasValue(_CF_this.title, TEXT ))
{
if  (!_CF_onError(_CF_this, _CF_this.title,
_CF_this.title.value, Please enter Title))
{
return false;
}
}
return chkRevision();

return true;
}

p.s. I *would* dearly love to turn the whole form into a normal form,
but
there's a lot of work required (large form) to do that and this is a
quick
fix, very unfortunately.

I think I've left my mind in a field.

Ta everyone.

Rich




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RE: [ cf-dev ] cfform[Scanned]

2004-06-29 Thread Rich Wild
Title: Message








Robin  thats a great idea
and works fine. Thanks for helping a poor mud-addled fool out of a pickle.



Ta.



(stupid CFFORM  I groan whenever I
inherit code with it in. I just *know*
Im dealing with a lazy coder and Im gonna have other problems
elsewhere, and Im 9 out of 10 times correct)











From: Robin Griffiths
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 29 June 2004 15:22
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ]
cfform[Scanned]





Use the submit button
 have your validation script return true or false for passed and failed
respectively which it looks like youve got already, then have something
like this



input
type=submit value=Submit >return
chkRevision();



If validation fails, the
button never triggers, if it passes, it triggers and invokes the forms
onSubmit handler .











From: Rich Wild
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 29 June 2004 15:14
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ]
cfform[Scanned]





Thanks Mark, I agree  but how can I
stop this happening and actually get cfform to kick off an extra custom
validation (ie mine) after *its*
finished? 











From: Mark Smyth
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 29 June 2004 15:10
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ]
cfform[Scanned]







I think its the onsubmit Rich











When cfform creates the _javascript_
isinitiates the validation by dynamically adding an onsubmit











so what you'd end up with in the browser
is something like











FORM NAME=itemFrm
ACTION=""
METHOD=POST  _CF_checkitemFrm(this)
ENCTYPE=multipart/form-data











its basically overwritting your onsubmit, or it
sounds like they might even be conflicting





hth





mark





-Original Message-----
From: Rich Wild
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 29 June 2004 14:48
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ cf-dev ] cfform

Yuck. I've inherited code which I'm debugging and it
all uses cfform, a personal peeve of mine.



Now, perhaps its because I came back from Glastonbury
yesterday and so am a little bit mental, but I'm trying to get this cfform to
fire off a validation script on submit.



So I've added the onsubmit parameter to the cfform
call like thus:



cfform
action=""
method=POST name=itemFrm
enctype=multipart/form-data 
chkRevision();



And I have the following function declared just above
it like thus:



script

function chkRevision() {


if (document.itemFrm.revision.value 
!document.itemFrm.EditComments.value.length) {


alert('Warning!\n\nPlease ensure that you have completed the \'Edit Comments\'
field.');


return false


} else {


return true


}


}

/script



That should work yea? So why does the JS give me a
Object Not Found error when run at the browser on this line (which is obviously
created by cfform)



function _CF_checkitemFrm(_CF_this)

{


if (!_CF_hasValue(_CF_this.title, TEXT ))


{


if (!_CF_onError(_CF_this, _CF_this.title, _CF_this.title.value,
Please enter Title))


{


return false;


}


}

return chkRevision();




return true;

}



p.s. I *would*
dearly love to turn the whole form into a normal form, but there's a lot of
work required (large form) to do that and this is a quick fix, very
unfortunately. 



I think I've left my mind in a field.



Ta everyone.



Rich










RE: [ cf-dev ] cfform[Scanned]

2004-06-29 Thread Rich Wild
Title: Message








Thanks for the idea Mark, and ordinarily
that would work, but Im dealing with a lot of dynamically created stuff,
and so cant just copy the flat JS.



Thanks for your help anyway, and Duncan as
well.











From: Mark Smyth
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 29 June 2004 15:25
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ]
cfform[Scanned]







Robin might have hit the nail on the head,
butif you have problems with that youcould get thecfform
generated code and copy it into a cfml template and it'll still work,
cause itsjust html and _javascript_.











This way you still have all the _javascript_ from
CFFORM, then you'll be able to append your own custom validation into cfforms
_javascript_.











Might take a bit of playing with, but it'll
definetely work.











Mark





-Original Message-
From: Rich Wild
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 29 June 2004 15:14
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ]
cfform[Scanned]

Thanks Mark, I agree - but how can I stop
this happening and actually get cfform to kick off an extra custom validation
(ie mine) after *its* finished? 











From: Mark Smyth
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 29 June 2004 15:10
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ]
cfform[Scanned]







I think its the onsubmit Rich











When cfform creates the _javascript_
isinitiates the validation by dynamically adding an onsubmit











so what you'd end up with in the browser
is something like











FORM NAME=itemFrm
ACTION="" METHOD=POST
 _CF_checkitemFrm(this)
ENCTYPE=multipart/form-data











its basically overwritting your onsubmit, or it
sounds like they might even be conflicting





hth





mark





-Original Message-----
From: Rich Wild
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 29 June 2004 14:48
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ cf-dev ] cfform

Yuck. I've inherited code which I'm debugging and it
all uses cfform, a personal peeve of mine.



Now, perhaps its because I came back from Glastonbury
yesterday and so am a little bit mental, but I'm trying to get this cfform to
fire off a validation script on submit.



So I've added the onsubmit parameter to the cfform
call like thus:



cfform
action=""
method=POST name=itemFrm
enctype=multipart/form-data 
chkRevision();



And I have the following function declared just above
it like thus:



script

function chkRevision() {


if (document.itemFrm.revision.value 
!document.itemFrm.EditComments.value.length) {


alert('Warning!\n\nPlease ensure that you have completed the \'Edit Comments\'
field.');


return false


} else {


return true


}


}

/script



That should work yea? So why does the JS give me a
Object Not Found error when run at the browser on this line (which is obviously
created by cfform)



function _CF_checkitemFrm(_CF_this)

{


if (!_CF_hasValue(_CF_this.title, TEXT ))


{


if (!_CF_onError(_CF_this, _CF_this.title, _CF_this.title.value,
Please enter Title))


{


return false;


}


}

return chkRevision();




return true;

}



p.s. I *would*
dearly love to turn the whole form into a normal form, but there's a lot of
work required (large form) to do that and this is a quick fix, very
unfortunately. 



I think I've left my mind in a field.



Ta everyone.



Rich












RE: [ cf-dev ] Looping through a list[Scanned]

2004-06-17 Thread Rich Wild
Remember that if a checkbox isn't ticked, it won't be sent, and won't
exist.

So you can kill the whole eq 1 bit, you just need
isDefined(form.tick#i#)

So you have:

CFLOOP FROM=1 TO=#listlen(form.id_list)# INDEX=i
cfif isDefined(form.tick#i#)
Do your shiznit here
/cfif
/cfloop

You could also guarantee that all the tickboxes exist by using cfparam
to set them up if they don't exist at the start.

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From: Gene Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 17 June 2004 15:29
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Looping through a list[Scanned]

James,
 
I think this should do it...
 
cfif form[#tick1#] eq 1
 
 
Cheers
Gene




From: James Buckingham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 17 June 2004 15:07
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: [ cf-dev ] Looping through a list



Hi guys,

 

I've got a form with X number of tick boxes on it (the number being
controlled by the number of records pulled from the DB). 

 

Each tick box is given the name 'Tick' followed by the ID from the
database
record. So say I had 5 records, the tick box names would be
Tick1,Tick2,Tick3,Tick4,Tick5.

 

The user ticks the boxes they want to delete from the database and then
submits the form.

 

The form sends through the tick box values and also a hidden variable
with a
list of all the ID's that where on the form. The idea being that I use
the
list to a) tell how many tick boxes there were and b) what the ID's of
the
records/tick boxes are.

 

This might be a long way of doing this (so correct me if there is an
easier
way) but what I want to do is loop through each tick box and find out if
it
has been ticked. If it has I want to run a query to delete that record.

 

Here's my code so far:

 

CFSET last= listLen(#form.id_list#, ,)

 

CFLOOP FROM=1 TO=#last# INDEX=i

CFIF form.tick#id# eq 1

CFQUERY  . .. 

 DELETE RECORD

/CFQUERY

 

!--- display test data //--

CFOUTPUT #listGetAt(form.id_list, i)#
/CFOUTPUT

/CFIF

/CFLOOP

 

My problem is how do I say in Cold Fusion  

CFIF #form.tick1# eq 1, 

CFIF #form.tick2# eq 1,

CFIF #form.tick3# eq 1,

 

where I have the static wording 'form.tick' and attach the ID from
the
list to the end of the wording. I've tried a few combinations but it's
not
budging for me L

 

Cheers,

JamesB

 



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[ cf-dev ] homesite+ CFML docs

2004-06-11 Thread Rich Wild








Hi guys.



Sorry about this, I know this question comes up all
the time, but Im scratching my head trying to find the CFML docs updater
for homesite+ - anyone know where they are on MM site? Ive tried,
believe me Ive tried.



Ta



Rich








RE: [ cf-dev ] homesite+ CFML docs[Scanned]

2004-06-11 Thread Rich Wild
Thanks, but no - I need the actual CFML docs for it, not an updater.

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this any use?
http://www.macromedia.com/software/homesite/download/update/




 

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Hi guys.

Sorry about this, I know this question comes up all the time, but I'm
scratching my head trying to find the CFML docs updater for homesite+ -
anyone know where they are on MM site? I've tried, believe me I've
tried.

Ta

Rich




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RE: [ cf-dev ] homesite+ CFML docs[Scanned]

2004-06-11 Thread Rich Wild
You sir, are a gentleman.

I am thanking you please come again.

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From: Tom Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 11 June 2004 10:43
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Rich,

Try here mate:
http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/downloads/

it's on this page:)

Cheers,

Tom
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Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 10:18 AM
Subject: [ cf-dev ] homesite+ CFML docs


Hi guys.

 

Sorry about this, I know this question comes up all the time, but I'm
scratching my head trying to find the CFML docs updater for homesite+ -
anyone know where they are on MM site? I've tried, believe me I've
tried.

 

Ta

 

Rich



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RE: [ cf-dev ] OT - The going rate[Scanned]

2004-06-11 Thread Rich Wild
 I usually work into the early hours and
see how long I can go without sleep  (normal life of a developer I
guess)

you won't catch me doing that in a million years.

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Hmm - Your scaring me now ..

Maybe I should be charging more. Were all skinflints up here in Brum though
you know.
I guess the worst thing that could happen is that this client (a friend of
a mates uncles brothers cousins mate) gets this business up  running and
makes a million.
I get Β£650.00 for making that happen lol

I have emailed the client with a few costs and estimated times but stated
that there would be other costs (graphics for example - 100 products = 100
detailed pics + 100 thumb nails) I can bump the price up a bit here 
;-)

The night working is normal for me. I usually work into the early hours and
see how long I can go without sleep  (normal life of a developer I
guess)
As for life.. Coldfusion IS life ... (I can't believe I typed that. Where's
my medication)

Regards - Paul




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RE: [ cf-dev ] OT - The going rate[Scanned]

2004-06-11 Thread Rich Wild
Yup. Beats coding at night.

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Sent: 11 June 2004 12:53
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Usually too busy sleeping in gutters with pizza in your pockets huh
 

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 Sent: 11 June 2004 12:48
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] OT - The going rate[Scanned]
 
  I usually work into the early hours and see how long I can 
 go without sleep  (normal life of a developer I guess)
 
 you won't catch me doing that in a million years.
 
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 Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] OT - The going rate[Scanned]
 
 
 Hmm - Your scaring me now ..
 
 Maybe I should be charging more. Were all skinflints up here 
 in Brum though
 you know.
 I guess the worst thing that could happen is that this client 
 (a friend of
 a mates uncles brothers cousins mate) gets this business up  
 running and
 makes a million.
 I get Β£650.00 for making that happen lol
 
 I have emailed the client with a few costs and estimated 
 times but stated
 that there would be other costs (graphics for example - 100 
 products = 100
 detailed pics + 100 thumb nails) I can bump the price up a 
 bit here 
 ;-)
 
 The night working is normal for me. I usually work into the 
 early hours and
 see how long I can go without sleep  (normal life of a developer I
 guess)
 As for life.. Coldfusion IS life ... (I can't believe I typed 
 that. Where's
 my medication)
 
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RE: [ cf-dev ] OT - The going rate[Scanned]

2004-06-11 Thread Rich Wild
I found that one before you!

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 Anyone found them yet?

Yeah.

The Coldfusion service has stopped responding

Makes me laugh every time!
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RE: [ cf-dev ] coldfusion.org.uk and GoogleBomb!

2004-04-22 Thread Rich Wild
That's why the amazon api is good. It means you don't have to scrape.

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k] On Behalf Of Snake Hollywood
Sent: 22 April 2004 12:10
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Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] coldfusion.org.uk and GoogleBomb!

There was a cf_amazon tag, but the guy gave up on it becaise he had to
change it so often because amazon kept changing their code.


 -Original Message-
 From: Paul Johnston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 20 April 2004 12:04
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] coldfusion.org.uk and GoogleBomb!
 
 
 Duncan,
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  suggestion: add a CF Books section, possibly with the 
 ability to add a
  review.  if you setup with an Amazon account you could make 
 commission 
  of any sales these would generate...
 
 
 Sounds a good plan... is there nothing around already that 
 does this?  
 If not, give me a day or so, and I'll set it up!
 
  also: _PJ Net Solutions Regular Expressions Tutorial_ 
  http://www.pjnetsolutions.com/regex Goes through from simple to 
  complex Regular Expressions using ColdFusion (link 
 submitted by: _Paul 
  Johnston_ mailto:paulAT%20NOSPAMpjnetsolutions.com)   
  - Shouldn't that say goes from simple to, er, simple?!  ;-)   been 
  waiting since 2002 for the medium and complex bits to be 
 completed on 
  this tutorial...
 
 Well at least someone's looking at it! One day (one day...) 
 I'll finish it!
 
 Paul
 
 
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RE: [ cf-dev ] recruitment companies

2004-04-08 Thread Rich Wild
Thanks Adam


--- Adam Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ok your best bet is
www.jobserve.com

You can also check out www.cwjobs.co.uk

www.jobstats.co.uk is also a very very good source of various job sites. I
would not recommend one agency over another. As long as they only take
12-20% then they are ok.

Adam


 sorry for the OT, but I've got wombats to feed.

 Anyone know of any good recruitment companies for to get me a CF
 job in London village?

 You can reply to me offlist if you like - richwild AT funjunkie
 DOT co DOT uk

 muchas gracias

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RE: [ cf-dev ] Firefox - WAS (Re: [ cf-dev ] 404 error)

2004-04-08 Thread Rich Wild
its only the best thing since sliced bread

ah, no, wait - that's David Hasselhoff.

Oh well, Firefox is pretty cool anyway - its a great browser. Used to be called 
Firebird. All the cool kids are using it.

. tabbed browsing. yummy.


--- Snake Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I was thinking more of [EMAIL PROTECTED]

What is firefox anyway

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 Sent: 08 April 2004 09:16
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] Firefox - WAS (Re: [ cf-dev ] 404 error)
 
 
 hell that's a good idea...  cf-browser, I can see it now:)
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 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 12:39 AM
 Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Firefox - WAS (Re: [ cf-dev ] 404 error)
 
 
 Erm, do I need to setup another list ?
 
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  Sent: 07 April 2004 17:40
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] Firefox - WAS (Re: [ cf-dev ] 404 error)
 
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  
   don't know that one, but will have to get it.
 
 http://texturizer.net/firefox/extensions/#webdeveloper
 
 Also, came across a calender extension. 
 http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/calendar/xpi/windows/ca
 lendar_windows
 _nightly.xpi
 
  i'm a big fan of the Adblock extension.
 
 hmmm might have to have a look at that one, but have to say 
 the ads don't bother me nearly so much as they used to with IE.
 
 Anyway. better stop this before we upset Russ. ;)
 
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RE: [ cf-dev ] Firefox - WAS (Re: [ cf-dev ] 404 error)

2004-04-08 Thread Rich Wild

IE compatibility?

Whatchoo talking bout Willis?

--- Paolo Piponi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I know this is all OT but what is FireFox like for IE compatability?

Paolo

 -Original Message-
 From: Rich Wild [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 08 April 2004 11:21
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Firefox - WAS (Re: [ cf-dev ] 404 error)
 
 
 its only the best thing since sliced bread
 
 ah, no, wait - that's David Hasselhoff.
 
 Oh well, Firefox is pretty cool anyway - its a great browser. 
 Used to be called Firebird. All the cool kids are using it.
 
 . tabbed browsing. yummy.
 
 
 --- Snake Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I was thinking more of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 What is firefox anyway
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Tom Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: 08 April 2004 09:16
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] Firefox - WAS (Re: [ cf-dev ] 404 error)
  
  
  hell that's a good idea...  cf-browser, I can see it now:)
  - Original Message - 
  From: Snake Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 12:39 AM
  Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Firefox - WAS (Re: [ cf-dev ] 404 error)
  
  
  Erm, do I need to setup another list ?
  
   -Original Message-
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   Sent: 07 April 2004 17:40
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] Firefox - WAS (Re: [ cf-dev ] 404 error)
  
  
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   
don't know that one, but will have to get it.
  
  http://texturizer.net/firefox/extensions/#webdeveloper
  
  Also, came across a calender extension. 
  http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/calendar/xpi/windows/ca
  lendar_windows
  _nightly.xpi
  
   i'm a big fan of the Adblock extension.
  
  hmmm might have to have a look at that one, but have to say 
  the ads don't bother me nearly so much as they used to with IE.
  
  Anyway. better stop this before we upset Russ. ;)
  
  Stephen
  
  
  
  
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[ cf-dev ] recruitment companies

2004-04-07 Thread Rich Wild
sorry for the OT, but I've got wombats to feed.

Anyone know of any good recruitment companies for to get me a CF job in London village?

You can reply to me offlist if you like - richwild AT funjunkie DOT co DOT uk

muchas gracias

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RE: [ cf-dev ] ukcfug site - browsing jobs?

2004-03-24 Thread Rich Wild
oo, thanks Steven, I should have mentioned that I'm looking in London
though, much as I'd like to move back up north.

Russ, will mail you offlist.

 -Original Message-
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 Sent: 24 March 2004 15:05
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] ukcfug site - browsing jobs?
 
 
 We have a Position in Leeds
 
 http://freeyourself.freeserve.com
 
 If you apply, please put me as the employee that put ou on to it.
 
 Steven Harper
 
 -Original Message-
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 Sent: 23 March 2004 14:23
 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Subject: [ cf-dev ] ukcfug site - browsing jobs?
 
 
 I'm on the ukcfug site, but can't seem to find a way to 
 browse the available jobs? The only ones I can get two are 
 the 2 listed on the resources page. Can anyone point out how 
 I can get to the jobs section?
 
 Ta.
 
 p.s. anyone got any jobs going? fulltime, not freelance. thnx.
 
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RE: [ cf-dev ] SMS

2004-03-24 Thread Rich Wild
we used them for the Chasing Bush campaign on interwebnet.org

http://www.interwebnet.org/chasing_bush

so that people campaigning could text us news/sightings etc from on the
march easily with their standard mobiles straight to our inboxes. It worked
fantastically! I recommend it.

 -Original Message-
 From: Kola Oyedeji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 24 March 2004 16:09
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] SMS
 
 
 Yes
 
 Checkout 
 
 http://www.sms2email.com
 
 Kola
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Damian Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 23 March 2004 23:26
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] SMS
  
  Thanks Mark, it truly is simple ;)
  
  -Original Message-
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  Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] SMS
  
   Anyone got any tips on sending SMS from CF templates?... any
 tutorials
   (can't find any) would be useful plus advice on gateways that are
  cheap
   or free!
  
  If you use an email to sms gateway, it's as simple as using CFMAIL.
  
  Google will find you some cheap gateways, there are very 
 few totally 
  free ones left these days (not sure if there are any tbh). If you 
  have a
 company
  account
  with a mobile phone network, give them a ring and ask them if they
 run
  their
  own or can recommend an sms gateway - never know, they might have 
  something for their business customers.
  
  
  Mark
  
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RE: [ cf-dev ] cleaning email lists...

2004-03-23 Thread Rich Wild
SELECT id FROM email
WHERE charindex('@', email) = 0

 -Original Message-
 From: Stephen Moretti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 23 March 2004 11:23
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] cleaning email lists...
 
 
 Heh heh, well at least one person had to come up with something that 
 wasn't NOT LIKE... ;)
 
  Clever clogs :-P
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Stephen Moretti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 23 March 2004 11:22
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] cleaning email lists...
  
  SELECT ID FROM Email
  WHERE Locate('@',email) = 0
  
  Probably more efficient than NOT LIKE '[EMAIL PROTECTED]', but no idea if 
 it'll work
  in access...  Definitely ok in mySQL.
  
  You can probably find an equivalent...
  
  Ian Westbrook (FDM) wrote:
  
 got a bit of a mental block this morning - can anyone throw me the
  
  code
  
 to select emails from a field where the email _doesn't_ 
 contain an '@'
  
  
 mailto:'@' symbol?
  
 something like
  
 SELECT id FROM email
 WHERE email does not contain '@' mailto:'@'
  
 TIA
  
 Ian W
  
  
  
  
 
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RE: [ cf-dev ] XML/RSS Feed

2004-03-23 Thread Rich Wild
Title: Message



well, 
my site, funjunkie has several feeds including RSS 0.91 and 2.0 (and wddx). Its 
very very easy to create a feed - they're just textfiles, so you just copy the 
format and change what you need.

I've 
created a coldfusion template that writes the rss page and then scheduled it to 
create the raw news.rss files so that a CF page isn't run everytime someone 
grabs the feed, which with modern aggregators happens quite a 
lot.

Feel 
free to nick the format, follow http://www.funjunkie.co.uk and then the 
feeds are at the bottom of the page. The copy for each post item has its HTML 
formatting removed in my versions.

  
  -Original Message-From: Lovelock, 
  Richard J [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 March 2004 
  11:55To: 'cflist'Subject: [ cf-dev ] XML/RSS 
  Feed
  Hi guys
  
  I've had a new call come through. Details are as 
  follows:
  
  - Investigate possibility of exporting website data as an XML/RSS feed 
  to other (selected) websites
  
  Not too sure of the finer details. We are on CF5 and use Paperthin's CF 
  based content management system where all data is stored in Commonspot's 
  defined DB tables.
  
  I have absolutely no exposure to XML or RSS and need some advice if 
  this sort of thing is possible and where to start looking? Have read a couple 
  of intros to XML/RSS to get a bit of backgound but as I say, I am completely 
  new.
  
  Would greatly appreciate any advice you can give me. 
  
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RE: [ cf-dev ] XML/RSS Feed

2004-03-23 Thread Rich Wild
Title: Message



p.s. 
if you want to consume an RSS feed in CFMX - I've a tutorial 
here:

http://www.funjunkie.co.uk/using_xml_feeds_with_coldfusion.cfm

its a 
bit old now, so you can prob find some better tutorials, but it 
works.

  
  -Original Message-From: Lovelock, 
  Richard J [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 March 2004 
  11:55To: 'cflist'Subject: [ cf-dev ] XML/RSS 
  Feed
  Hi guys
  
  I've had a new call come through. Details are as 
  follows:
  
  - Investigate possibility of exporting website data as an XML/RSS feed 
  to other (selected) websites
  
  Not too sure of the finer details. We are on CF5 and use Paperthin's CF 
  based content management system where all data is stored in Commonspot's 
  defined DB tables.
  
  I have absolutely no exposure to XML or RSS and need some advice if 
  this sort of thing is possible and where to start looking? Have read a couple 
  of intros to XML/RSS to get a bit of backgound but as I say, I am completely 
  new.
  
  Would greatly appreciate any advice you can give me. 
  
  ___
  
  *Regards, 
   
  Richard Lovelock, 
   
  Senior Application Analyst.
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RE: [ cf-dev ] cleaning email lists...

2004-03-23 Thread Rich Wild
in my experience with email addresses everything's gonna be wrong with them,
not just missing @ symbols. You need to run an regex against them to filter
out the bads.

 -Original Message-
 From: Ian Westbrook (BT account) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 23 March 2004 12:31
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] cleaning email lists...
 
 
 Oh, by the way, add in a condition which removes and scrubs 
 me from the
 spam list too. :)
 
 not spam. Opt-in, people who have signed up for emails: but 
 some of them are a little, er, _challenged_ when it comes to 
 computers and stuff, so don't always enter their address 
 correctly. For example, what prompted my email was noticing 
 that someone had entered their address as 
 firstname.lastname'aol.com - ie hit the wrong key for the @ sign...
 
 Ian W
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Peter Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 12:24 PM
 Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] cleaning email lists...
 
 
 Oh, by the way, add in a condition which removes and scrubs 
 me from the spam list too. :)
 
 Thanks.
 
 - Peter
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Ian Westbrook (BT account) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 23 March 2004 11:58
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] cleaning email lists...
 
 
  SELECT id FROM email
  WHERE charindex('@', email) = 0
 
 ooh, that looks good too ;-)
 
 Ian W
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Rich Wild [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 11:34 AM
 Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] cleaning email lists...
 
 
  SELECT id FROM email
  WHERE charindex('@', email) = 0
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Stephen Moretti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: 23 March 2004 11:23
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] cleaning email lists...
  
  
   Heh heh, well at least one person had to come up with 
 something that 
   wasn't NOT LIKE... ;)
  
Clever clogs :-P
   
-Original Message-
From: Stephen Moretti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 23 March 2004 11:22
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] cleaning email lists...
   
SELECT ID FROM Email
WHERE Locate('@',email) = 0
   
Probably more efficient than NOT LIKE '[EMAIL PROTECTED]', but no idea if
   it'll work
in access...  Definitely ok in mySQL.
   
You can probably find an equivalent...
   
Ian Westbrook (FDM) wrote:
   
   got a bit of a mental block this morning - can anyone 
 throw me the
   
code
   
   to select emails from a field where the email _doesn't_
   contain an '@'
   
   
   mailto:'@' symbol?
   
   something like
   
   SELECT id FROM email
   WHERE email does not contain '@' mailto:'@'
   
   TIA
   
   Ian W
   
   
   
   
  
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RE: [ cf-dev ] cleaning email lists...

2004-03-23 Thread Rich Wild
yea, short of that there's not a lot you can do with syntactically valid
emails.

I would just send them all and collect the bounces. After categorising the
bounce messages and separating out-of-office repies from true bounces then
you can filter your dataset and improve the quality of the list for the next
one, whilst reporting on the quality of this initial list.

This is what I did for our mailing software. It helps our clients go back to
their data providers and get money back for crap lists! :D

Lycos had a small issue with claritas after one mailing.

 -Original Message-
 From: Matt Horn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 23 March 2004 14:06
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] cleaning email lists...
 
 
 hmmm
 
 Good point
 
  but short of doing a raw smtp thingum to verify the 
 existance of the mail server?
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Rich Wild [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 3:59 PM
 Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] cleaning email lists...
 
 
   Creatre a table of common misspellings andrun a query to 
 match them
  
   every time you find a new one add it to the table
 
  The problem with that though is what if [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 is a real
 email
  address? It's a valid domain, and its owned by someone, so why 
  shouldn't they send e-mail through it?
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Matt Horn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: 23 March 2004 13:56
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] cleaning email lists...
  
  
  
  
 what can/do you do against muppets like: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
just delete them - I don't want people that stupid to 
 use my site 
anyway
   ;-)
   
Ian W
  
   Creatre a table of common misspellings andrun a query to 
 match them
  
   every time you find a new one add it to the table
  
  
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[ cf-dev ] ukcfug site - browsing jobs?

2004-03-23 Thread Rich Wild
I'm on the ukcfug site, but can't seem to find a way to browse the available
jobs? The only ones I can get two are the 2 listed on the resources page.
Can anyone point out how I can get to the jobs section?

Ta.

p.s. anyone got any jobs going? fulltime, not freelance. thnx.

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RE: [ cf-dev ] ukcfug site - browsing jobs?

2004-03-23 Thread Rich Wild
is that the Green Man pub?

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  Can anyone point out how I can get to the jobs section?
 
 Head up the M5 towards Birmingham, Turn off at J14 and hang a 
 right. It's the second left after the pub.
 
 Taz
 
 
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RE: [ cf-dev ] XML/RSS Feed

2004-03-23 Thread Rich Wild
Title: Message



to 
*consume* an rss feed it really is much easier with cfmx. With CF5 you'll either 
have to install a 3rd party xml parser or parse it manually with string 
functions (shudder).

To 
*publish* an rss feed you can use whatever flavour of CF you like - you're just 
building a textfile.

  
  -Original Message-.From: Lovelock, Richard J 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 March 2004 
  14:51To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: [ 
  cf-dev ] XML/RSS Feed
  OK Rich thanks. Your tutorial link is cfmx related
  
  we are on cf5 - so is most of the information redundant for me 
  really?
  
  we may be going to cfmx at some point in near future - is this going to 
  make things easier in terms of playing with XML and is it worth me advising to 
  wait for an upgrade before going much further with this?
  
  
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-Original Message-From: Rich Wild 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 23 March 2004 
14:47To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: [ 
cf-dev ] XML/RSS Feed
I 
don't know about commonspot, but your feed subscribers will have to do 
*something* to the feed, othwerwise they've just got a flat xml packet on 
their hands. 
-Original 
Message-From: Lovelock, Richard J 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 March 2004 
14:39To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: [ 
cf-dev ] XML/RSS Feed

  OK thanks Rich/Ellis
  
  I am still not really too clear how this would be 
  done in terms of making the necessary data accessible
  
  the data is stored in a whole host of different 
  tables and Commonspot uses a load of moderately complex queries on all the 
  pages to retrieve all the correct data for display (all of which kind of 
  happens behind the scenes as you would expect from a 
  CMS)
  
  would I be feeding data straight from a DB or is it 
  possible to pull data from the final rendered HTML code ? 
  
  
  this is all a bit foggy still
  
  also, does whoever is going to be receiving any RSS 
  feed have to be involved in any dev work to enable them to receive and 
  process whatever we are supplying to them?
  
  sorry if none of this is making too much 
  sense!!
  
  
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-Original Message-From: Rich Wild 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 23 March 2004 
12:08To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: 
[ cf-dev ] XML/RSS Feed
well, my site, funjunkie has several feeds including RSS 0.91 and 
2.0 (and wddx). Its very very easy to create a feed - they're just 
textfiles, so you just copy the format and change what you 
need.

I've created a coldfusion template that writes the rss page and 
then scheduled it to create the raw news.rss files so that a CF page 
isn't run everytime someone grabs the feed, which with modern 
aggregators happens quite a lot.

Feel free to nick the format, follow http://www.funjunkie.co.uk and 
then the feeds are at the bottom of the page. The copy for each post 
item has its HTML formatting removed in my versions.

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  Lovelock, Richard J [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: 23 March 2004 11:55To: 
  'cflist'Subject: [ cf-dev ] XML/RSS 
  Feed
  Hi guys
  
  I've had a new call come through. Details are as 
  follows:
  
  - Investigate possibility of exporting website 
  data as an XML/RSS feed to other (selected) 
  websites
  
  Not too sure of the finer details. We are on CF5 
  and use Paperthin's CF based content management system where all data 
  is stored in Commonspot's defined DB tables.
  
  I have absolutely no exposure to XML or RSS and 
  need some advice if this sort of thing is possible and where to start 
  looking? Have read a couple of intros to XML/RSS to get a bit of 
  backgound but as I say, I am completely new.
  
  Would greatly appreciate any advice you can give 
  me

RE: [ cf-dev ] ukcfug site - browsing jobs?

2004-03-23 Thread Rich Wild
no, but really - can't access the jobs bit.

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 Sent: 23 March 2004 14:28
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] ukcfug site - browsing jobs?
 
 
  Can anyone point out how I can get to the jobs section?
 
 Head up the M5 towards Birmingham, Turn off at J14 and hang a 
 right. It's the second left after the pub.
 
 Taz
 
 
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RE: [ cf-dev ] ukcfug site - browsing jobs?

2004-03-23 Thread Rich Wild
ah - there seems to be a bug when using www.ukcfug.org.uk as opposed to
www.ukcfug.org

www.ukcfug.org works fine.

 -Original Message-
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 Sent: 23 March 2004 16:01
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 Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] ukcfug site - browsing jobs?
 
 
 no, but really - can't access the jobs bit.
 
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  Sent: 23 March 2004 14:28
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  Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] ukcfug site - browsing jobs?
  
  
   Can anyone point out how I can get to the jobs section?
  
  Head up the M5 towards Birmingham, Turn off at J14 and hang a
  right. It's the second left after the pub.
  
  Taz
  
  
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RE: [ cf-dev ] WooHoo It works ...

2004-03-19 Thread Rich Wild
heh. yea. I know of some gov departments that are using access and finding
the error of their ways.

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 From: Lovelock, Richard J [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 19 March 2004 11:37
 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] WooHoo It works ...
 
 
 so basically when you starting pushing access it has limits 
 and starts buckling - is that the general concensus?
 
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 Cap Gemini Ernst  Young
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 -Original Message-
 From: Tom Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 19 March 2004 11:34
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] WooHoo It works ...
 
 
 you've hit the nail on the head works great for a small dev 
 project site...
 - Original Message - 
 From: Lovelock, Richard J [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 11:27 AM
 Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] WooHoo It works ...
 
 
  why does everyone seem to hate access so much? (apart from memory 
  leaks mentioned in earlier thread this week)
 
  it helped me learn loads and works great for a small dev 
 project site 
  I am working on for learning purposes?
 
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  -Original Message-
  From: Tom Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 19 March 2004 11:22
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] WooHoo It works ...
 
 
  you could do exactly the same thing in SQL server Neil...  
 but yeah I 
  totally agree with you about access spit /
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 11:12 AM
  Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] WooHoo It works ...
 
 
   MAX(ID) is Access aint it spit/
  
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Ian Westbrook (BT account) 
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: 19 March 2004 11:06
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] WooHoo It works ...
  
   couldn't you also do...
  
   cftransaction
  
   cfquery name=add_to_ReportNames 
 datasource=WebUserDSN INSERT 
   INTO Report_Names (report_name, path_name, Doc_Type_ID) VALUES 
   ('#trim(form.entered_report_name)#',
   '#trim(form.entered_path_name)#',
   '#trim(form.selected_doc_type)#')
   /cfquery
  
   cfquery datasource=#dsn# name=getlast SELECT MAX(id) AS 
   'last_record_ID' /cfquery
  
   ...
  
   /cftransaction
  
   ??
  
   Ian W
  
  
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   Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 11:00 AM
   Subject: [ cf-dev ] WooHoo It works ...
  
  
   
I came up with this ...
   
cftransaction
  !--- First addrecord to reportNames and get the 
 @@identity 
which will give last record_ID created ---
  cfquery name=add_to_ReportNames 
 datasource=WebUserDSN
INSERT INTO Report_Names
  (report_name, path_name, Doc_Type_ID)
  VALUES
  ('#trim(form.entered_report_name)#',
  '#trim(form.entered_path_name)#',
  '#trim(form.selected_doc_type)#')
  SELECT @@IDENTITY AS 'last_record_ID'
  /cfquery
  cfquery name=add_to_Details datasource=WebUserDSN
INSERT INTO Details
  (Report_ID, Phase_ID, Group_ID, Menu_Group)
  VALUES
  ('#add_to_ReportNames.last_record_ID#',
  '#trim(form.selected_phase_type)#',
  '#trim(form.selected_group_type)#',
  '#trim(form.selected_menu)#')
  /cfquery
/cftransaction
   
   
Thanks all for the help ...
   
   
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RE: [ cf-dev ] Whats wrong?

2004-03-19 Thread Rich Wild
you don't need the hashes '#' around the dateadd (jFromDate, jToDate)
CFSET lines in that page!


..*ducks*..


;)


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 it's a technicolor marvel: http://www.madirish.org/images/cfstudio.jpg
 
 
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 19/03/2004 14:59  
  
 Please respond to 
  
 dev   
  
   
  
   
  
 
 
 
 does CF studio colour things prettier than DW then??? I have 
 never used Studio but if my code will look prettier I'll have 
 to seriously consider switching! :oD
 
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  what constitutes prettier!!??
 
 
 CF Studio/HomeSite+ colours your code in in lots of different 
 pretty colours if you complete the tags and attributes in 
 your tags correctly.
 
 And it looks pretty... :oD
 
 You'd never guess it was Friday afternoon and I'm starting 
 feeling a little demob happy
 
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RE: [ cf-dev ] Whats wrong?

2004-03-19 Thread Rich Wild
;D

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 i wouldn't know, it's not my site.  just used google images 
 to track down a handy screenshot
 
 
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  Subject: RE: [ 
 cf-dev ] Whats wrong?  
 19/03/2004
  
 15:09 
  
 Please
  
 respond to
  
 dev   
  
   
  
   
  
 
 
 
 you don't need the hashes '#' around the dateadd (jFromDate, 
 jToDate) CFSET lines in that page!
 
 
 ..*ducks*..
 
 
 ;)
 
 
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  it's a technicolor marvel: 
 http://www.madirish.org/images/cfstudio.jpg
 
 
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  19/03/2004 14:59
 
  Please respond to
 
  dev
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  does CF studio colour things prettier than DW then??? I have never 
  used Studio but if my code will look prettier I'll have to 
 seriously 
  consider switching! :oD
 
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  Senior Application Analyst.
  Westminster City Council - Web Support
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  ( 0870 906 7482
 
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  Sent: 19 March 2004 14:51
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  Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] Whats wrong?
 
 
 
 
 
   what constitutes prettier!!??
  
 
  CF Studio/HomeSite+ colours your code in in lots of 
 different pretty 
  colours if you complete the tags and attributes in your tags 
  correctly.
 
  And it looks pretty... :oD
 
  You'd never guess it was Friday afternoon and I'm starting 
 feeling a 
  little demob happy
 
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[ cf-dev ] Jakarta Lucerne

2004-03-08 Thread Rich Wild
Anyone used Jakarta Lucerne as an alternative to Verity?

http://jakarta.apache.org/lucene/docs/index.html

If so, I'd be interested in opnions..


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RE: [ cf-dev ] Jakarta Lucerne

2004-03-08 Thread Rich Wild
brill, thanks fellas!

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 Yeah I think Arron wrote those aticles, lots more info at his blog
 
 http://cephas.net/blog/
 
 Justin
 
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 Anyone used Jakarta Lucerne as an alternative to Verity?
 
 http://jakarta.apache.org/lucene/docs/index.html
 
 Nope, but FYI - CFDJ has a couple of articles about Lucene 
 with instructions for using it via cfscript and for creating CFXs.
 
 Lucence is also used in the new version of Bluedragon to 
 implement cfsearch, cfindex and cfcollection.
 
 
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RE: [ cf-dev ] Not using CFLocation any more

2004-03-04 Thread Rich Wild
or do what I did and setup IIS to use a custom CFML 404 page that handles
redirections.

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 I would guess because 404 error pages are delivered by the 
 web server not by coldfusion. Coldfusion has it's own 
 settings for non existing pages. You should use these for CF 
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RE: [ cf-dev ] Bookmark

2004-03-04 Thread Rich Wild
 In honesty I an coming up to the end of a project deadline 
 and don't have time to try and find it  :-(

surely using google would have taken less time than the time it took to
write that e-mail?



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RE: [ cf-dev ] Bookmark

2004-03-04 Thread Rich Wild
ad nauseam

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 surely using google to find out the answer for him would have 
 taken less time than the time it took YOU to write THAT 
 reply? surely using google to find out the answer for him 
 would have taken less time than the time it took ME to write 
 THIS reply?
 
 ad infinitum
 
 
 
 
   
  
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 Please
  
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RE: [ cf-dev ] Quick way to insert a record per day.

2004-03-01 Thread Rich Wild
loop over the results of DateDiff(datepart, date1, date2), adding a
date using dateadd() for each iteration.

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 Subject: [ cf-dev ] Quick way to insert a record per day.
 
 
 I've got a start date and an end date and I want to insert a 
 record into 
 the database for each date between and including the start 
 and end dates.
 
 Any thoughts on a quick and easy way to do this?
 
 Stephen the fuzzy brained.
 
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RE: [ cf-dev ] Quick way to insert a record per day.

2004-03-01 Thread Rich Wild
heh, one of them eh? ;)

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 Cheers chaps
 
 Definitely needed the help after the meeting I've just been in.
 
 
 Stephen
 Rich Wild wrote:
 
  loop over the results of DateDiff(datepart, date1, date2), 
  adding a date using dateadd() for each iteration.
  
  
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 I've got a start date and an end date and I want to insert a
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 Any thoughts on a quick and easy way to do this?
 
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RE: [ cf-dev ] CSV to query

2004-03-01 Thread Rich Wild
That's my fav method. Eeez verry naice!

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 Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] CSV to query
 
 
 You might be interested in another approach which is a little 
 more efficient than CFHTTP. Set up an ODBC datasource using 
 the CSV driver and point it at a directory. Then all you need 
 to do is perform a query with that datasource, using the 
 filename of the csv where you would use a tablename in your SQL.
 
 Steve
 
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  Ignore me - it's done in cfhttp.
   
  Thanks for the help.  ;)
   
  Tim.
  
  
  
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  Subject: [ cf-dev ] CSV to query
  
  
  
  Brain ache...
  
  Trying to read in a CSV file and use it as a query object.  I
  know there's something that can do it but I'm having Monday 
  issues...  Any suggestions?
  
  Tim.
  
  
  
  
 
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RE: [ cf-dev ] Coldfusion Developer

2004-02-27 Thread Rich Wild
 I've never 
 bothered with the certification.

Me neither. My portfolio speaks for itself.

Well, it hopefully will do!

Thing is, most people are using studio/DWMX right? What's the point in
memorising the attribute of every single tag when you have easily to hand
helpfiles? As it happens, I know most of them, but that's just through usage
over the years, certainly not because I sat there with the wall chart
memorising them.

I don't *need* to know the attributes for CFFORM, because I never use it in
everyday work.

Rich


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RE: [ cf-dev ] Coldfusion Developer

2004-02-27 Thread Rich Wild
Getting subsets of data that the application already has 
 access to is 
 about the only thing I use it for.  Quicker than going back to the DB 
 and saves on caching.

I used it this way as well, saving large recordsets in memory to avoid
repeated trips to the db to perform time-expensive complex queries.
In my testing I found that using v. large recordsets (400,000 etc) of data
and filtering them with either QofQ or looping and comparing, looping was
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RE: [ cf-dev ] Coldfusion Developer

2004-02-27 Thread Rich Wild
 (but fair play to anyone who does put in the effort to learn 
 all the stuff and do the exams!!! ;o) )

Oh yea! I'm not taking ANYTHING away from those who have taken the exam - it
sure looks great on a CV, and when we've been recruiting CF developers we've
looked for certification where no immediate portfolio was present. You have
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RE: [ cf-dev ] Date problem

2004-02-26 Thread Rich Wild
dayofweekasstring(dayofweek(now()))

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 Sent: 26 February 2004 09:33
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 Subject: [ cf-dev ] Date problem
 
 
 Hi
 
  is there a function that takes a date and returns the day of 
 the week ?
 
 like Dayofweek(now()) == returns Thursday?
 
 cant seem to find one
 
 thanks
 
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RE: [ cf-dev ] sending http content

2004-02-24 Thread Rich Wild
anyone got any ideas on this one?

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 I have an app that depends on the use of gethttprequestdata 
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 Now, all's well and good, but how can I use CF to actually 
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RE: [ cf-dev ] sending http content

2004-02-24 Thread Rich Wild
no, its not the same thing...

I need to send the content in the request headers, not the body.

normal posted data would show up in the form scope, but this doesn't, its
only available through using getHttpRequestData()

unless I'm missing something about cfhttp.

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 Can't you post the test data to it using CFHTTP ?
 
 Stephen
 
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 anyone got any ideas on this one?
 
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  I have an app that depends on the use of gethttprequestdata
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  Now, all's well and good, but how can I use CF to actually
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RE: [ cf-dev ] sending http content

2004-02-24 Thread Rich Wild
no, because the values are not exposed in cgi scope either.

the content length is, but not the actual data.

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 Sent: 24 February 2004 10:48
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 Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] sending http content
 
 
 cfhttpparam type=cgi should do it
 
 Nick
 
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 Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] sending http content
 
 
  no, its not the same thing...
  
  I need to send the content in the request headers, not the body.
  
  normal posted data would show up in the form scope, but 
 this doesn't, 
  its only available through using getHttpRequestData()
  
  unless I'm missing something about cfhttp.
  
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   Can't you post the test data to it using CFHTTP ?
   
   Stephen
   
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   anyone got any ideas on this one?
   
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Subject: [ cf-dev ] sending http content


I have an app that depends on the use of gethttprequestdata to 
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Now, all's well and good, but how can I use CF to actually send 
testdata to it? Can I, even?

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RE: [ cf-dev ] sending http content

2004-02-24 Thread Rich Wild
 You have a script that is (I'm guessing here) grabbing some 
 SOAP data or other from the request header when it is called 
 using getHTTPRequestData().

spot on.

 using getHTTPRequestData().  You then want to respond to that 
 request, sending back the appropriate response, again in the 
 header, rather than in the main message body?

no, I can respond in the message body, that's fine - what I'm trying to do
is test my app. Because the data is coming from a remote service, I can't
test my data until the app goes live, so I need to send some test data to it
myself, emulating the call.

How can I do this with CF - and if I can't use CF to send it, what can I
use?

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  hmmm, no, I can't seem to set the content of the request
  headers that way.
 
 Right, I only came into this just now, so explain again and 
 I'll have a thunk...
 
 You have a script that is (I'm guessing here) grabbing some 
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[ cf-dev ] sending http content

2004-02-23 Thread Rich Wild
I have an app that depends on the use of gethttprequestdata to grab some xml
posted in the content of the http headers.

Now, all's well and good, but how can I use CF to actually send testdata to
it? Can I, even?

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RE: [ cf-dev ] Forum Apps

2004-02-20 Thread Rich Wild
~cough~ mine.

~ducks and runs~

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 ~cough~ phpBB2
 
 ~ducks and runs~
 
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  Any got any faves for forums apps..(MX, 5)  ideally 
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RE: [ cf-dev ] Forum Apps

2004-02-20 Thread Rich Wild
 heh heh  Where??

as if you couldn't guess.

;)

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 Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] Forum Apps
 
 
 
 
 Paul Johnston wrote:
 
 ~cough~ phpBB2
 
 ~ducks and runs~
  
  
  I second that!  If you can get PHP then use this! It's FREE!
  
  Fusetalk is in some ways better, but...
  
 
 I actually like phpBB2 better than fusetalk.  I use both.
 
 I've got one site that I now wish I had used phpBB2 rather than 
 fusetalk.  Only major issue is that I would have to work out how to 
 integrate the CF login on the site with the phpBB2 login...
 
 Rich Wild wrote :
  ~cough~ mine.
  
  ~ducks and runs~
 
 heh heh  Where??
 
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RE: [ cf-dev ] New lists and forums integration

2004-02-19 Thread Rich Wild
god forbid that chat should be archived.

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 Sent: 19 February 2004 09:07
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 Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] New lists and forums integration
 
 
 aww, where's chat?
 
 - Peter
 
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 Guys,
 
 I have been setting up the new fusetalk forums, and I am 
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 and vice versa, but in order to do that I am splititng this 
 list up into categories to match the forum. Hopefully things 
 will then get more active as the other members will start using them.
 
 Here are the new lists, you will need to subscribe to each, 
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RE: [ cf-dev ] Email Links Splitting

2004-02-19 Thread Rich Wild
I built one myself - its quite easy.

You take a long url, check to see if it hasn't been stored in the db, if it
hasn't, create a unique id and store the unique id against that url.

Whenever someone clicks the shorterlink - retrieve it using that id and then
redirect!

 -Original Message-
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 Sent: 19 February 2004 09:15
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 Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Email Links Splitting
 
 
 that's a bit nifty!! how does that work - something to do 
 with DNS??? (havent time to read through help etc on site)
 
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 You could try using www.tinyurl.com to make a 'tiny' URL 
 instead and paste that into the email?
 
 Jb.
 
 
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 (sorry if i am supposed to be using the dedicated list yet - 
 am I?? haven't had time to sort it out yet)
  
 I need a pretty urgent response if possible..
  
 We have an application on our website which allows Met Police 
 officers to send out Email newsletters usinf CFMail.
  
 An officer wants to send out an email with a link to a 
 document but the link is quite long and goes over two  lines 
 which breaks the link from the first line (i.e. the text on 
 the 2nd line doesn't stay as part of the text)
  
 This also happened when he inserted the link just in to a 
 normal email to me
  
 Is there anything I can do to ensure that his link stays 
 together as a hyperlink even if it gets split over two lines?
  
  
 
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RE: [ cf-dev ] Mac compatability

2004-02-19 Thread Rich Wild
our designers user either IE or firefox.

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 Sent: 19 February 2004 16:18
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 Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Mac compatability
 
 
 OK, that's contradictory. Lisa says NS and you say IE.
 
 Is it IE or Netscape for the majority?
 
 And Safari/Firefox - are you guys not happy with just one or two?
 
 Paolo
 
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  IE 5 on the recent-old macs... and the brand spanking new Safari on 
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  Although I use FireFox on my Mac :D
  
  
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[ cf-dev ] xml post

2004-02-18 Thread Rich Wild
A client is posting an xml request to an app of mine.

I can see that the content_length is 363, but can't remember how to expose
the content itself for parsing.

Can anyone remember?

Rich


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RE: [ cf-dev ] xml post

2004-02-18 Thread Rich Wild
ah sorry, I think it was gethttprequestdata() that I was after.

Finally managed to find it.

I needed to actually get at the data itself, I'm ok with the parsing it
later, but thanks anyway.

 -Original Message-
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 Sent: 18 February 2004 09:24
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 Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] xml post
 
 
 Wasn't quite sure what you need to do with the data etc but ..
 
 IsXMLDoc()to see if its valid 
 
 Then XMLParse() to get stuff out of it ..
 
 Or use CFDUMP to have a look at the whole thing .. or do a 
 ToString() on it
 
 HTH
 
 Stephen
 
 
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 Subject: [ cf-dev ] xml post
 
 A client is posting an xml request to an app of mine.
 
 I can see that the content_length is 363, but can't remember 
 how to expose the content itself for parsing.
 
 Can anyone remember?
 
 Rich
 
 
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RE: [ cf-dev ] checking email addresses

2004-02-06 Thread Rich Wild
I'm Alex and so is my wife.

(we tried to verify email addresses in this way, but quite a few mail
servers don't respond accordingly, so we didn't bother)

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 Sent: 06 February 2004 10:58
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 Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] checking email addresses
 
 
 
 ok, but who's alex?
 
 ;-)
 
 
 
 
   
  
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  Subject: Re: [ 
 cf-dev ] checking email addresses  
 06/02/2004
  
 10:56 
  
 Please
  
 respond to
  
 dev   
  
   
  
   
  
 
 
 
 Ignore me
 
 listen to Alex
 
 he is smarter then me anyway
 
 
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 Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] checking email addresses
 
 
  You used to be able to do this with 'finger' or 'verify' 
 commands on 
  the mail server
 
   as u can imagine its a security risk and most mail server 
  administrators will have disabled those cammands
 
   so I think what you want to do will be very difficult if not 
  impossible
 
   Matt
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   Anyone got some code that can simply validate some email 
 addresses.
 Not
   that they are the correct syntax, but that they actually 
 exist and 
   will accept mail?  I'm sure this can be done...
  
  
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RE: [ cf-dev ] checking email addresses

2004-02-06 Thread Rich Wild
delivery failures are valuable. Our clients pay plenty money for that
information. They get to clean their lists with it.

 -Original Message-
 From: Duncan Fenton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 06 February 2004 14:18
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 Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] checking email addresses
 
 
 You and every spammer in the world :D
 ** I did not call you a spammer
 ** I know you are legit. But technically
 ** it's the same problem, isn't it?
 Duncan
 
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 Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] checking email addresses
 
 
 
 it's for a list of email addresses, a large percentage of 
 which i suspect are now out of date.  i need to bulk mail 
 them all, but don't want to get back hundreds of delivery failures.
 
 
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 checking email addresses
 
 06/02/2004
 13:20
 Please
 respond to
 dev
 
 
 
 
 
 Not really possible.
 
 What I do is send an authorisation email to the address. If 
 they don't click on the link provided, whatever they wanted 
 from your site is not done until the initial authorisation.
 
 Adam
 
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  Anyone got some code that can simply validate some email 
 addresses.  
  Not that they are the correct syntax, but that they 
 actually exist and 
  will accept mail?  I'm sure this can be done...
 
 
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RE: [ cf-dev ] checking email addresses

2004-02-06 Thread Rich Wild
 well it's not strictly legit, it's a porn site's mailing 
 list.  funnily enough several of the addresses are also on 
 this list...

That's legit in my book.

Anyway, I *told* them when I signed up that I didn't want them to send me
stuff!

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 Sent: 06 February 2004 15:07
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 Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] checking email addresses
 
 
 
 well it's not strictly legit, it's a porn site's mailing 
 list.  funnily enough several of the addresses are also on 
 this list...
 
 
 Duncan Cumming
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 Fax: 0141 575 9600
 
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 Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] checking email addresses  
 
 06/02/2004 14:17  
   
 Please respond to dev 
   
   
   
   
   
 
 
 
 You and every spammer in the world :D
 ** I did not call you a spammer
 ** I know you are legit. But technically
 ** it's the same problem, isn't it?
 Duncan
 
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 Sent: 06 February 2004 14:12
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 Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] checking email addresses
 
 
 
 it's for a list of email addresses, a large percentage of 
 which i suspect are now out of date.  i need to bulk mail 
 them all, but don't want to get back hundreds of delivery failures.
 
 
 Duncan Cumming
 IT Manager
 
 http://www.alienationdesign.co.uk 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Tel: 0141 575 9700
 Fax: 0141 575 9600
 
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 06/02/2004
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 Not really possible.
 
 What I do is send an authorisation email to the address. If 
 they don't click on the link provided, whatever they wanted 
 from your site is not done until the initial authorisation.
 
 Adam
 
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  Anyone got some code that can simply validate some email 
 addresses.  
  Not that they are the correct syntax, but that they 
 actually exist and 
  will accept mail?  I'm sure this can be done...
 
 
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RE: [ cf-dev ] OT: preventing hotlinking

2004-01-21 Thread Rich Wild
or do what I do when people hotlink FJ's images.

call down a lil bit of goatse on their heads.

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 From: Taz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 21 January 2004 09:38
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 Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] OT: preventing hotlinking
 
 
 I've just thought of an interesting solution to this problem, 
 that doesn't require more 3rd party plugins for IIS.
 
 Assuming your application is CF throughout, you could store 
 the name of the images directory in a database and pick this 
 up for output in any links. Then you could set up a session 
 to change the name of the images directory every day.
 
 This wouldn't physically stop people from linking to images, 
 but it would make their links redundant every day.
 
 Taz
 
 
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RE: [ cf-dev ] OT: preventing hotlinking

2004-01-21 Thread Rich Wild
um. yes, yes it is.

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 Sent: 21 January 2004 09:49
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 Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] OT: preventing hotlinking
 
 
 Goatse? What's that, goat cheese?
 
 
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 Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] OT: preventing hotlinking
 
 
 or do what I do when people hotlink FJ's images.
 
 call down a lil bit of goatse on their heads.
 
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RE: [ cf-dev ] OT: preventing hotlinking

2004-01-21 Thread Rich Wild
well, he'll love the goatse that I can provide him with.

 -Original Message-
 From: Adrian Lynch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 21 January 2004 09:54
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 Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] OT: preventing hotlinking
 
 
 Well then you're in trouble then, cos my mate Dave, he hot 
 links and he loves the stuff...
 
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 From: Rich Wild [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 21 January 2004 09:49
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 Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] OT: preventing hotlinking
 
 
 um. yes, yes it is.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Adrian Lynch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] OT: preventing hotlinking
  
  
  Goatse? What's that, goat cheese?
  
  
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  Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] OT: preventing hotlinking
  
  
  or do what I do when people hotlink FJ's images.
  
  call down a lil bit of goatse on their heads.
  
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RE: [ cf-dev ] FW: Newsflash - IR35 to be abolished in April and replaced by IR591

2004-01-19 Thread Rich Wild
 (Ooh, was that a political rant?)

careful Taz. You almost sound like you know what you're talking about.


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RE: [ cf-dev ] need another pair of eyes to look at this simple r egex

2004-01-16 Thread Rich Wild
that matches 2 consecutive matches.

ie jshas89kshjas

or sdd65987987

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 Sent: 16 January 2004 16:04
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 Subject: [ cf-dev ] need another pair of eyes to look at this 
 simple regex
 
 
 Ok, Quick regex question
 
 I have the following which is supposed to return true if 
 string contains 2 or more numbers - can anyone see what I'm 
 missing here (it always returns false).
 
 if( not reFindNoCase(([0-9]){2,}, k7p2oog){
  return true;
 } else {
  return false;
 }
 
 
 Thanks 
 
 Kola Oyedeji
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RE: [ cf-dev ] Strange T-SQL issues

2004-01-13 Thread Rich Wild
use need the TIMESTAMP var type in cf.

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 From: Paul Johnston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 13 January 2004 10:44
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [ cf-dev ] Strange T-SQL issues
 
 
 I am having issues putting a date/time from CF into SQL 
 Server. I am sure it's simple, but I can't seem to get the 
 time into the server (date is no problem).
 
 Running this code in Query Analyzer produces the correct 
 output (ie a date with the right time):
 
 DECLARE @sd varchar(30)
 SELECT @sd = '2003-10-19 12:23:03'
 
 DECLARE @dt datetime
 SELECT @dt = CONVERT(datetime, @sd, 120)
 
 SELECT @dt as dt
 
 However, if I insert in a date via a Stored Procedure (either 
 as a cf_sql_date or cf_sql_varchar and convert to date) 
 either way it removes the time and just inserts the date.
 
 Anyone?
 
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RE: [ cf-dev ] Strange T-SQL issues

2004-01-13 Thread Rich Wild
I have no idea, it appears to be one of those weird decisions the CF
engineers made. I'm assuming the date var type just takes the date and not
the time - you could test this if you have some time.

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 Yup, that would do it. Can you tell us why though Rich, tis 
 most perplexing! It had me screwed for quite some time.
 
 d
 
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 Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Strange T-SQL issues
 
 use need the TIMESTAMP var type in cf.
 
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  From: Paul Johnston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 13 January 2004 10:44
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [ cf-dev ] Strange T-SQL issues
  
  
  I am having issues putting a date/time from CF into SQL
  Server. I am sure it's simple, but I can't seem to get the 
  time into the server (date is no problem).
  
  Running this code in Query Analyzer produces the correct
  output (ie a date with the right time):
  
  DECLARE @sd varchar(30)
  SELECT @sd = '2003-10-19 12:23:03'
  
  DECLARE @dt datetime
  SELECT @dt = CONVERT(datetime, @sd, 120)
  
  SELECT @dt as dt
  
  However, if I insert in a date via a Stored Procedure (either
  as a cf_sql_date or cf_sql_varchar and convert to date) 
  either way it removes the time and just inserts the date.
  
  Anyone?
  
  Paul
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RE: [ cf-dev ] CF Salaries

2004-01-12 Thread Rich Wild
 Is it the same situation in the UK?

nope. instead trained IT graduates are retraining as plumbers and builders
where they can make much more money and gain employment. Building courses
etc are oversubscribed across the whole country.

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 Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] CF Salaries
 
 
 
 In Ireland, there have been serious drops in people entering 
 tech. university courses. So bad that the colleges are 
 actively promoting computer courses. A couple of years ago it 
 impossible to get a place. Techie companies are worried that 
 there won't be enough skills in the future.
 
 Is it the same situation in the UK?
 
 Justin
 
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 From: Duncan Fenton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 12 January 2004 13:40
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 Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] CF Salaries
 
 
 What about the flood of asp-ers who claim to know asp?
 
 plug shameless=true I actually do /plug
 
 Duncan Fenton
 Solution Consultant
 
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 Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] CF Salaries
 
 snip
 perhaps it is the flood of ASPers and PHPers that claim to 
 know CF that is bringing down the perceptions on recruiters 
 (especially those who dont really understand what CF is and 
 how it can be utilised). ASP and PHP programmers are after 10 
 a penny these days. They are being taught ASP at University 
 and even in some High Schools and PHP modules are given away 
 by the thousands so PHPers dont have to understand basic 
 programming concepts (plug and play programming).
 
 What does everyone else think?
 
 Ellis C Wood BSC
 Ellwood Web Solutions
 
 
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