Re: [ cf-dev ] Shopping cart
I have one that's free but you'll have to hook into the payment system yourself. ~Simon Simon Horwith Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Master Instructor Editor-in-Chief, ColdFusion Developers Journal Blog - http://www.horwith.com Damien Gallagher wrote: Hi all, is there any goood free or low cost CF shopping cart? It needs to connect to World Pay. Thanks, Damien -- These lists are syncronised with the CFDeveloper forum at http://forum.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ CFDeveloper Sponsors and contributors:- *Hosting and support provided by CFMXhosting.co.uk* :: *ActivePDF provided by activepdf.com* *Forums provided by fusetalk.com* :: *ProWorkFlow provided by proworkflow.com* *Tutorials provided by helmguru.com* :: *Lists hosted by gradwell.com* To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [ cf-dev ] Mach-II and farcry
I've never been a fan of FB and have barely touched FarCry... but I have looked at it a bit and I have looked at MACH II a bit as well. I much prefer MACH II to FB and FarCry from a design point of view, but from an end-user point of view, since you also mentioned it, I must say that given the choice I'd definitely use CommonSpot. It's much easier to implement, more robust, and much easier and more robust for the end user to author content with. ~Simon Simon Horwith Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Master Instructor Editor-in-Chief, ColdFusion Developers Journal Blog - http://www.horwith.com Russ Michaels (Snake) wrote: This list has been very quiet lately. I am seriously thinking about trying out Mach-II and am in the process of using farcry, just wanted some feedback. For those that already used a framework, be it Fusebox or their own, how does Mach-II compare. Have you been converted, RE farcry, is it actually any good, how does it compare to the likes of commonspot or shado. I'm still having problems with installation so it's getting on my tits a bit now. Russ -- These lists are syncronised with the CFDeveloper forum at http://forum.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ CFDeveloper Sponsors and contributors:- *Hosting and support provided by CFMXhosting.co.uk* :: *ActivePDF provided by activepdf.com* *Forums provided by fusetalk.com* :: *ProWorkFlow provided by proworkflow.com* *Tutorials provided by helmguru.com* :: *Lists hosted by gradwell.com* To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [ cf-dev ] Hourly Rate
to add to this: pure coding really isn't worth that much to most people. Planning and design are where having excellent ability and experience make you worth "top dollar". Unfortunately, many companies place not enough emphasis on web-based software architecture and too much emphasis on the actual development. Then, months or years after a project is delivered, they are left with an unmanageable code base. I'm not saying that this is always the case, just that it happens a lot. ~Simon Simon Horwith Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Master Instructor Editor-in-Chief, ColdFusion Developers Journal Blog - http://www.horwith.com Russ Michaels (Snake) wrote: Also depends how good you are, what credits and examples and certifications you can show your client. As a novice with little experience and no examples to show, you will probably only get 10ph. If you have a good reputation and the client things youre the man, then 50+ Russ -Original Message- From: Allan Cliff - CFUG Spain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 02 September 2004 14:16 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] Hourly Rate Thanks for you help. - Original Message - From: "Ellis Wood" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 10:50 AM Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Hourly Rate I am currently getting 25/Hr but my rates range from 15 - 25 depending on the client. The average seems to be about 18 to 20 -Original Message- From: Allan Cliff - CFUG Spain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 02 September 2004 08:22 To: CF Dev Subject: [ cf-dev ] Hourly Rate What would you say is the "going hourly rate" for a CF Programmer? It is for purely programming, the analysis etc is done. Thanks Allan -- These lists are syncronised with the CFDeveloper forum at http://forum.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ CFDeveloper Sponsors and contributors:- *Hosting and support provided by CFMXhosting.co.uk* :: *ActivePDF provided by activepdf.com* *Forums provided by fusetalk.com* :: *ProWorkFlow provided by proworkflow.com* *Tutorials provided by helmguru.com* :: *Lists hosted by gradwell.com* To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- These lists are syncronised with the CFDeveloper forum at http://forum.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ CFDeveloper Sponsors and contributors:- *Hosting and support provided by CFMXhosting.co.uk* :: *ActivePDF provided by activepdf.com* *Forums provided by fusetalk.com* :: *ProWorkFlow provided by proworkflow.com* *Tutorials provided by helmguru.com* :: *Lists hosted by gradwell.com* To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- These lists are syncronised with the CFDeveloper forum at http://forum.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ CFDeveloper Sponsors and contributors:- *Hosting and support provided by CFMXhosting.co.uk* :: *ActivePDF provided by activepdf.com* *Forums provided by fusetalk.com* :: *ProWorkFlow provided by proworkflow.com* *Tutorials provided by helmguru.com* :: *Lists hosted by gradwell.com* To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- These lists are syncronised with the CFDeveloper forum at http://forum.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ CFDeveloper Sponsors and contributors:- *Hosting and support provided by CFMXhosting.co.uk* :: *ActivePDF provided by activepdf.com* *Forums provided by fusetalk.com* :: *ProWorkFlow provided by proworkflow.com* *Tutorials provided by helmguru.com* :: *Lists hosted by gradwell.com* To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [ cf-dev ] Mach-II and farcry
that it does, but if you can afford it, it's worth it ;) ~Simon Simon Horwith Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Master Instructor Editor-in-Chief, ColdFusion Developers Journal Blog - http://www.horwith.com Russ Michaels (Snake) wrote: It also has a huge pricetag. -Original Message- From: Simon Horwith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 06 September 2004 18:11 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] Mach-II and farcry I've never been a fan of FB and have barely touched FarCry... but I have looked at it a bit and I have looked at MACH II a bit as well. I much prefer MACH II to FB and FarCry from a design point of view, but from an end-user point of view, since you also mentioned it, I must say that given the choice I'd definitely use CommonSpot. It's much easier to implement, more robust, and much easier and more robust for the end user to author content with. ~Simon Simon Horwith Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Master Instructor Editor-in-Chief, ColdFusion Developers Journal Blog - http://www.horwith.com Russ Michaels (Snake) wrote: This list has been very quiet lately. I am seriously thinking about trying out Mach-II and am in the process of using farcry, just wanted some feedback. For those that already used a framework, be it Fusebox or their own, how does Mach-II compare. Have you been converted, RE farcry, is it actually any good, how does it compare to the likes of commonspot or shado. I'm still having problems with installation so it's getting on my tits a bit now. Russ -- These lists are syncronised with the CFDeveloper forum at http://forum.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ CFDeveloper Sponsors and contributors:- *Hosting and support provided by CFMXhosting.co.uk* :: *ActivePDF provided by activepdf.com* *Forums provided by fusetalk.com* :: *ProWorkFlow provided by proworkflow.com* *Tutorials provided by helmguru.com* :: *Lists hosted by gradwell.com* To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- These lists are syncronised with the CFDeveloper forum at http://forum.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ CFDeveloper Sponsors and contributors:- *Hosting and support provided by CFMXhosting.co.uk* :: *ActivePDF provided by activepdf.com* *Forums provided by fusetalk.com* :: *ProWorkFlow provided by proworkflow.com* *Tutorials provided by helmguru.com* :: *Lists hosted by gradwell.com* To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [ cf-dev ] session time out and security
if you have access to the Macromedia DRKs, have you taken a look at the authentication API that was on DRK 7? It's a good example of how the security framework can be implemented and a good interface to the built-in security tags and functions as well. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, eTRILOGY ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Master Instructor Blog - http://www.horwith.com Jenny wrote: Hi Duncan, Files: 1. index.cfm containing login 2. login_process.cfm processed after login and sets session variables 3. *.cfm any other file on the system with security check normal process, 1, 2, 3 what's happening, 1, 3 - splatt reason for splatt: session times out or user bookmarks any other file on the system apart from index.cfm comes back and tries to login CF tries to be over helpful and after sending user to login page then returns them to 3 and bypasses 2. sooo .. i need to stop CF passing the user straight back to 3 from 1 and make sure they go through 2 first. Hope that explains it! Jenny - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 2:49 PM Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] session time out and security so there's two pages: login_process.cfm and process.cfm? Can you include the session variable stuff from process.cfm into login_process.cfm? Jenny [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] place.org cc: Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] session time out and security 30/08/2004 14:15 Please respond to dev Hi Duncan, The login_process.cam is acted on from the login page. Trouble happens when a user book marks other pages in the site that have security set and require variables to run. They try to return directly to the page, the security sends them to login page, then when they log in the process.cfm page is skipped and none of the variables are set. Jenny - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 12:13 PM Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] session time out and security so the login form has action=process.cfm, right? is there some code in process.cfm that is redirecting before the session variables are set? Jenny [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] place.org cc: Subject: [ cf-dev ] session time out and security 30/08/2004 11:18 Please respond to dev Hi all, Got a problem with the above. Scenario is: standard login: login on front page of site refers using to a process cfm which checks for further access rights and sets up a load of needed session variables. messed up login: user bookmarks secure page, security bungs them out to the home page to login, they log in and then get directed by the default security to their bookmarked page, skipping the process cfm and it errors cos needed session variables haven't been set. I've been through the docs a few hundred times, but can't see a solution. Anyone have any ideas please? Jenny --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.744 / Virus Database: 496 - Release Date: 24/08/2004 -- These lists are syncronised with the CFDeveloper forum at http://forum.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ CFDeveloper Sponsors and contributors:- *Hosting and support provided by CFMXhosting.co.uk* :: *ActivePDF provided by activepdf.com* *Forums provided by fusetalk.com* :: *ProWorkFlow provided by proworkflow.com* *Tutorials provided by helmguru.com* :: *Lists hosted by gradwell.com* To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.744 / Virus Database: 496 - Release Date: 24/08/2004 -- These lists are syncronised with the CFDeveloper forum at http://forum.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ CFDeveloper Sponsors and contributors:- *Hosting and support provided by CFMXhosting.co.uk* :: *ActivePDF provided by activepdf.com* *Forums provided by fusetalk.com* :: *ProWorkFlow provided by proworkflow.com* *Tutorials provided by helmguru.com* :: *Lists hosted by gradwell.com* To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- These lists are syncronised with the CFDeveloper forum at http://forum.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ CFDeveloper Sponsors and contributors:- *Hosting and support provided by CFMXhosting.co.uk* :: *ActivePDF provided by activepdf.com* *Forums provided by fusetalk.com
Re: [ cf-dev ] CFMX user account
that means it is running as System. What's recommended is creating a new account, assigning it apprpriate permissions in the file system, and then using that account. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, eTRILOGY ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Master Instructor Blog - http://www.horwith.com Douglas Humphris wrote: Can anyone tell me how to find out what account CFMX is running under in IIS? I tried looking at Services and it just says LocalSystem. Cheers, Douglas -- These lists are syncronised with the CFDeveloper forum at http://forum.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ CFDeveloper Sponsors and contributors:- *Hosting and support provided by CFMXhosting.co.uk* :: *ActivePDF provided by activepdf.com* *Forums provided by fusetalk.com* :: *ProWorkFlow provided by proworkflow.com* *Tutorials provided by helmguru.com* :: *Lists hosted by gradwell.com* To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [ cf-dev ] WOT: Blogregator for UK specific MM Blogs
sweet! ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, eTRILOGY ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Master Instructor Blog - http://www.horwith.com Lucas Sherwood wrote: Hey Folks, I dont know about you but I have been looking for a blogregator specific to UK developers and in the end I gave up! After spending a few hours searching for Blogs, playing with code etc, there now is one http://www.ukcfug.org/blogregator/index.cfm if you have a blog and think you should be in here, just let me know thanks to the UKCFUG for donating some of their server space for this code (and their bandwidth!) cya, Lucas. -- Lucas Sherwood Evangelist - Server Products Macromedia EMEA +44 7881 803 170 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying or transmission of this information is strictly prohibited. If you received this email in error, please delete all copies and notify us immediately. -- These lists are syncronised with the CFDeveloper forum at http://forum.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ CFDeveloper Sponsors and contributors:- *Hosting and support provided by CFMXhosting.co.uk* :: *ActivePDF provided by activepdf.com* *Forums provided by fusetalk.com* :: *ProWorkFlow provided by proworkflow.com* *Tutorials provided by helmguru.com* :: *Lists hosted by gradwell.com* To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [ cf-dev ] Thursday Night Drinks in London
twist my arm! Yeah, as you know, I'll be there. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, eTRILOGY ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Master Instructor Blog - http://www.horwith.com Lucas Sherwood wrote: Hey Folks, I know that you are all hard at work, but is anyone going to make it into london for the CFUG drinks thingy? http://www.ukcfug.org/go/objectid/DE646C25-E081-0302-F9A1336E4468F83B L. -- Lucas Sherwood Evangelist - Server Products Macromedia EMEA +44 7881 803 170 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying or transmission of this information is strictly prohibited. If you received this email in error, please delete all copies and notify us immediately. -- These lists are syncronised with the CFDeveloper forum at http://forum.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ CFDeveloper Sponsors and contributors:- *Hosting and support provided by CFMXhosting.co.uk* :: *ActivePDF provided by activepdf.com* *Forums provided by fusetalk.com* :: *ProWorkFlow provided by proworkflow.com* *Tutorials provided by helmguru.com* :: *Lists hosted by gradwell.com* To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [ cf-dev ] OT - cheap hosting
I don't know whether it's been mentioned or not, but if you haven't taken a look at CFDynamics yet, you might want to take a look. I like them. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, eTRILOGY ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Master Instructor http://www.cfstandards.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks to everyone who's replied to me offering me some good deals. I've managed to get something sorted out, case closed. cheers duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] sign.co.uk To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: 07/07/2004 16:33 Subject: [ cf-dev ] OT - cheap hosting Please respond to dev Anyone care to offer me some cheap hosting for a very small website (probably 5 pages)? Nothing much to it at all, maybe a couple of contact forms and an Access database. Any version of CF server is fine. Email me off-list with prices if you like. Duncan Cumming IT Manager http://www.alienationdesign.co.uk mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: 0141 575 9700 Fax: 0141 575 9600 Creative solutions in a technical world -- Get your domain names online from: http://www.alienationdomains.co.uk Reseller options available! -- -- -- These lists are syncronised with the CFDeveloper forum at http://forum.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ CFDeveloper Sponsors and contributors:- *Hosting and support provided by CFMXhosting.co.uk* :: *ActivePDF provided by activepdf.com* *Forums provided by fusetalk.com* :: *ProWorkFlow provided by proworkflow.com* *Tutorials provided by helmguru.com* :: *Lists hosted by gradwell.com* To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- These lists are syncronised with the CFDeveloper forum at http://forum.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ CFDeveloper Sponsors and contributors:- *Hosting and support provided by CFMXhosting.co.uk* :: *ActivePDF provided by activepdf.com* *Forums provided by fusetalk.com* :: *ProWorkFlow provided by proworkflow.com* *Tutorials provided by helmguru.com* :: *Lists hosted by gradwell.com* To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [ cf-dev ] MX book
I have to agree with Stephen - I prefer that one to the others... of course, I haven't really looked at what's out there recently. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, eTRILOGY ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Master Instructor http://www.cfstandards.org Stephen Moretti (cfmaster) wrote: Chris Thomas wrote: Can anyone recommend a good ColdFusion MX book (or books) for a developer who has no knowledge of ColdFusion, but has a good understanding of programming concepts and OO design (a computer science graduate). Thanks, Chris. Me and Taz looked at load of CF books that we were sent as give-aways back when we were running the Northern UK CFUG. I know I certainly liked the Mastering book over all the other and I'm fair certain Taz felt the same. I'm afraid the Ben Forta... MM Press books need some help. (Sorry guys) Stephen -- These lists are syncronised with the CFDeveloper forum at http://forum.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ CFDeveloper Sponsors and contributors:- *Hosting and support provided by CFMXhosting.co.uk* :: *ActivePDF provided by activepdf.com* *Forums provided by fusetalk.com* :: *ProWorkFlow provided by proworkflow.com* *Tutorials provided by helmguru.com* :: *Lists hosted by gradwell.com* To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [ cf-dev ] OT: Outsourcing to India or elsewhere
I've only seen disasters, personally. That said, I've been toying with the idea of setting-up shop in India. I'm more than capable of communicating with people there and with training them... I could most likely charge half of what a Western consulting firm would and still keep myself on the salary I want and pay the staff a very decent salary. For that matter I've also toyed with the idea of simply freelancing from there and offering companies the ability to get work done for much less than you'd typically expect to pay someone like me. I'd be curious to know how many of you would be more willing to outsource to India if you knew I was there overseeing operations, training people, etc.? ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, eTRILOGY ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Master Instructor http://www.cfstandards.org Peter Harrison wrote: Thinking about this, it feels like there are good and bad in each country, so what you need to do is go by past reputation. Can you get a history on the people you are about to deal with? Hence my suggesting rentacoder. Do they keep ratings of programmers? I have worked with programmers both good and bad, and country of origin certainly _does not_ say who will be good or bad. (my 2p) - Peter -Original Message- From: David Low [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 June 2004 13:50 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] OT: Outsourcing to India or elsewhere Tried and failed, Paul - I worked on a site where the CF development was farmed out to Pakistan, completely hashed up, and then returned to me for emergency repairs - with £10,000 gone by that point. The developers disappeared for days on end, the code had no comments so as to pick it apart later, there was no real structure to it all and in the end, it was rebuilt from scratch. I've heard similar horror stories from people who outsourced Java and C++ projects to the near East countries - yet to hear of a success... Also worked with a developer from Pakistan who used to work on sub-contracted projects like this, then came over to the UK to earn the proper rate. James from Imajica might bear this one out - we spent possibly 4 or 5 months repairing some of the work he left behind. Only good foreign development I've come across was from South Africa - very responsive, working in the same time zone as us, and good but speedy coding. Wouldn't go near Pakistan again! David Paul Johnston wrote: Has anyone successfully outsourced any projects to India (or elsewhere)? I have heard some good things, but was wondering if there were any stories ppl could share (keeping companies secret of course unless they're pants). Doesn't seem like many companies do CF though! The reason being I am looking into it for a friend who doesn't want to pay my rates (erm...) but does want to have a fully featured website custom built for him. He's willing to source it through me though so I can take a cut, but also so I can provide the tech support for the site (instead of it being somewhere else in world). Paul -- These lists are syncronised with the CFDeveloper forum at http://forum.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ CFDeveloper Sponsors and contributors:- *Hosting and support provided by CFMXhosting.co.uk* :: *ActivePDF provided by activepdf.com* *Forums provided by fusetalk.com* :: *ProWorkFlow provided by proworkflow.com* *Tutorials provided by helmguru.com* :: *Lists hosted by gradwell.com* To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [ cf-dev ] OT: Outsourcing to India or elsewhere
well, if you or anyone else on the list is interested in the possibility at any time, let me know. In the meantime, I'm debating doing this most likely around the end of the year, but it's still just an idea. If I do decide to set-up shop either as a freelancer over there or actually hiring a staff, etc. I'll be sure to let you all know. I've thought about it a lot and I think that while everyone now realizes that they can get good cheap labor over there, everyone is also very skeptical about the quality. I think I could help to remedy that (at least with my own offerings if not in general). ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, eTRILOGY ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Master Instructor http://www.cfstandards.org Kola Oyedeji wrote: I'd be curious to know how many of you would be more willing to outsource to India if you knew I was there overseeing operations, training people, etc.? ~Simon Simon I think knowing you were involved would go along way to instilling confidence if we were considering outsourcing. In this case it's the reputation which would carry the weight. In future I think this is going to be the prime issue when considering outsourcing - hence the usefulness of sites like -lance. KOla -- These lists are syncronised with the CFDeveloper forum at http://forum.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ CFDeveloper Sponsors and contributors:- *Hosting and support provided by CFMXhosting.co.uk* :: *ActivePDF provided by activepdf.com* *Forums provided by fusetalk.com* :: *ProWorkFlow provided by proworkflow.com* *Tutorials provided by helmguru.com* :: *Lists hosted by gradwell.com* To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [ cf-dev ] ASP / CF sessions
keep in mind that everything Snake said is true so long as ASP and CF are running on the same domain. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, eTRILOGY ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Master Instructor http://www.cfstandards.org Snake Hollywood wrote: Well if you use a cookie set by CF that contains the details, then ASP can read this cookie and use the same data. So that makes everything cross platform. No worry about how to pass the data from cf to asp. You can encrypt the cookie contents as well. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 21 June 2004 16:13 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] ASP / CF sessions I think I should probably encrypt it, as otherwise User A could possibly find out details on Users B, C and D Snake Hollywood To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]cc: kepit.net Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] ASP / CF sessions 21/06/2004 16:10 Please respond to dev Post it to an ASP page and then create the session in ASP as well. As it's only a userID I presume you don't mind about it being plain text, otherwis eencrpyt it. Russ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 21 June 2004 15:56 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ cf-dev ] ASP / CF sessions Lets say you've got a typical CF session, where you perhaps store the UserID in the Session scope. And you've also got some ASP pages, where you need to know that UserID. What would be the best way of passing the UserID to the ASP pages? some thoughts so far: - is it possible for ASP to access a CF session variable? - could access it via a cookie - use some kind of encryption to safely pass the value in a form/url, and decrypt on the other side (what kind of encryption?) -- These lists are syncronised with the CFDeveloper forum at http://forum.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ CFDeveloper Sponsors and contributors:- *Hosting and support provided by CFMXhosting.co.uk* :: *ActivePDF provided by activepdf.com* *Forums provided by fusetalk.com* :: *ProWorkFlow provided by proworkflow.com* *Tutorials provided by helmguru.com* :: *Lists hosted by gradwell.com* To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- These lists are syncronised with the CFDeveloper forum at http://forum.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ CFDeveloper Sponsors and contributors:- *Hosting and support provided by CFMXhosting.co.uk* :: *ActivePDF provided by activepdf.com* *Forums provided by fusetalk.com* :: *ProWorkFlow provided by proworkflow.com* *Tutorials provided by helmguru.com* :: *Lists hosted by gradwell.com* To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- These lists are syncronised with the CFDeveloper forum at http://forum.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ CFDeveloper Sponsors and contributors:- *Hosting and support provided by CFMXhosting.co.uk* :: *ActivePDF provided by activepdf.com* *Forums provided by fusetalk.com* :: *ProWorkFlow provided by proworkflow.com* *Tutorials provided by helmguru.com* :: *Lists hosted by gradwell.com* To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- These lists are syncronised with the CFDeveloper forum at http://forum.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ CFDeveloper Sponsors and contributors:- *Hosting and support provided by CFMXhosting.co.uk* :: *ActivePDF provided by activepdf.com* *Forums provided by fusetalk.com* :: *ProWorkFlow provided by proworkflow.com* *Tutorials provided by helmguru.com* :: *Lists hosted by gradwell.com* To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[ cf-dev ] last nights CFUG
Hope the meeting went well? Sorry I couldn't make it - I'm flying out today for a conference and had to pack, etc. ~Simon -- Simon Horwith CTO, eTRILOGY ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Master Instructor http://www.cfstandards.org -- These lists are syncronised with the CFDeveloper forum at http://forum.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ CFDeveloper Sponsors and contributors:- *Hosting and support provided by CFMXhosting.co.uk* :: *ActivePDF provided by activepdf.com* *Forums provided by fusetalk.com* :: *ProWorkFlow provided by proworkflow.com* *Tutorials provided by helmguru.com* :: *Lists hosted by gradwell.com* To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [ cf-dev ] The chicken or the egg
this doesn't really apply to web development - specifically ColdFusion. The dot com boom began in the US and for the most part was a US phenomena that happened to impact/spread to the markets in other countries. I don't know of any company in the US that's of the opinion that they'll find better ColdFusion developers overseas. Ever company I've spoken with that's outsourced CF work to the third world has been extremely dissapointed (not necessarily the case with Java and other development). I haven't had any problem finding work here...but I know I'm not quite the same as the average Joe on the market. In my experience, companies are interested in me because of the exposure I've had to Enterprise Applications. The size and robustness of some of the applications that I worked on in the US during the dot com boom appears to be important to many companies. There are still opportunities for foreigners in the US obviously, and there are still opportunities for US workers to work on these kinds of large enterprise apps... there are a lot of them out there and more being developed everyday. I think that the reason an American will find the market here in the UK rather poor is that they're used to the US market which is currently much better than the UK (in terms of number of open positions needing to be filled). Personally I've been more surprised by the average salary offerings which, in the UK, are much lower... especially when you take cost of living into account. Obviously, everything I've said is based on what I've experienced and none of it applies to everyone - they're just generalizations. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, eTRILOGY ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Master Instructor http://www.cfstandards.org Snake Hollywood wrote: You will find americans and English are very different. Americans are generally happy to employ foreigners because they know all the best talent comes from abroad, especially Europe. The English are not so keen to employ foreigners, especially when they do not live in the UK to begin with, there is also a lot of prejudice over here. You also have to remember that a lot of the imported talent comes from the UK. For example the well known special effects company "Industrial light and magic" were a british company. Russ -Original Message- From: Alex Puritche [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 05 June 2004 15:56 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re[2]: [ cf-dev ] The chicken or the egg Snake, you are right. i'm foreigner, telecommuter. Americans have no major problems hiring me (except maybe occasional misunderstandings occurring as result of my bad English), thus it seems like my "foreignness" is not a big problem. Saturday, June 5, 2004, 5:03:56 PM, you wrote: Snake Well your experience is not neccisarily going to define the UK Snake situation. As your semmingly a foreigner and I presume not even Snake living in the UK. Snake Russ -Original Message- From: Alex Puritche [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 05 June 2004 14:21 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] The chicken or the egg hi folks, sorry for bringing this topic up. i was constantly seeking for UK employer and i wasn't able to find any of during 5 years. so it seems to me sort of strange that it is difficult for UK employer to find good CF developer. Wednesday, May 26, 2004, 11:00:54 PM, you wrote: Ellwood I have heard many discussions on this forum about the lackof Ellwood Coldfusion jobs and whether we should retrain in ASP Ellwood and the like. My recentexperience has shown me an alternative Ellwood viewpoint. My current contract is for anemployer who is in the Ellwood midst of making the decision to move from CF to .NET andhis Ellwood main reason is that he cant get any Coldfusion programmers. Ellwood There is avirtual glut of asp programmers leaving University Ellwood and a great source of thevaluable resource he needs. So which Ellwood came first, the lack of jobs or the lackof programmers? Ellwood Ellwood Ellis C Wood BSc Ellwood Ellwood Web Solutions Ellwood Ellwood T: 01623 459973 Ellwood E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ellwood W: http://www.ellwoodwebsolutions.co.uk Ellwood -- Regards, Alexmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- These lists are syncronised with the CFDeveloper forum at http://forum.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ CFDeveloper Sponsors and contributors:- *Hosting and support provided by CFMXhosting.
Re: [ cf-dev ] MVC
implicit invocation may or may not "lead to seperation of model and view" but it's nothing the same as MVC. Just thought I'd mention that. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, eTRILOGY ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Master Instructor http://www.cfstandards.org Salvatore Fusto wrote: hello Spike If you don't already understand something of MVC from a design and implementation point of view you will struggle to figure out which part of the app belongs to which part of MVC when using either Mach-ii or Fusebox. Neither of those provide any sort of clue as to the answers to Sam's question. this is clear!! if i don't know oop, i can't use it only writing in java!! Having said that, I would agree that Mach-ii does provide a good framework around which to construct MVC applications. I can't speak for Fusebox because I've not used the latest versions, and I've never tried to use MVC with Fusebox 2 and below. this is what, peraphs not very clearly, i've said: any tools lead to use MVC better then others, but the question is that a programmer has to know MVC in abstract! I mentioned Mach-ii because it is based on implicit invocation architecture, and this leads to separation betwen model and view. best regards salvatore - Original Message - From: "Stephen Milligan" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 5:42 PM Subject: RE: Re: [ cf-dev ] MVC I would have to put in a big caveat here. If you don't already understand something of MVC from a design and implementation point of view you will struggle to figure out which part of the app belongs to which part of MVC when using either Mach-ii or Fusebox. Neither of those provide any sort of clue as to the answers to Sam's question. Having said that, I would agree that Mach-ii does provide a good framework around which to construct MVC applications. I can't speak for Fusebox because I've not used the latest versions, and I've never tried to use MVC with Fusebox 2 and below. Spike Stephen Milligan Code poet for hire http://www.spike.org.uk Do you cfeclipse? http://cfeclipse.tigris.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] o.uk] On Behalf Of Salvatore Fusto Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 6:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re: [ cf-dev ] MVC no, of course; i simply say that some frameworks, expecially mach-ii and its implicit invocation, help to develop apps follwing MVC, no more. i've said that a design pattern is a concept. may be my english is not too clear!! hope to be clear regards salvatore - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 4:31 PM Subject: Re: Re: [ cf-dev ] MVC You're not implying that it's important to use Fusebox or MACH II if you want to implement design patterns, are you? If so, in the name of all that is right I must regretfully disagree with every fiber of my being ;) ~Simon hello, i would add my opinion to this interesting discussion. MVC is a design pattern, as many others. It is indipendent from programming and languages, so you can try to implement an app with this pattern, from scratch, with a procedural language too, but if you decide to use a framework such us fusebox or better mach-ii, you will be lead to follow an mvc approach as well: in other words, not only is important to use the right design pattern for apps, but is more important to use the right tools too apply this patter (i could try to implement an app in COBOL using MVC, but i do not think to obtain grat resuls). regards salvatore - Original Message - From: "Sam Clement" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 2:38 PM Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] MVC Thanks Spike. Any recommended books/resources? -Original Message- From: Stephen Milligan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 4:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] MVC When you run into a situation where one part of the system appears to be duplicating what another part of the system is doing it
Re: [ cf-dev ] anyone called a webservice with addRequestHeader() sucessfully?
not that it will necessarily makes a
difference, but did you try using CFINVOKE? While I prefer
CFSCRIPT, sometimes there are things that are easier to do with the tag
syntax.
~Simon
Simon Horwith
CTO, eTRILOGY ltd.
Member of Team Macromedia
Macromedia Certified Master Instructor
http://www.cfstandards.org
Barry L Beattie wrote:
Hi all
We're trying to connect our CF app to an ASP.NET (asmx) webservice.
Has anyone called a webservice with addRequestHeader(), sucessfully? It can't be a network problem (it works with other tools) so it's either (1) sheer incompetance on my part or (2) something funny with CF calling other webservices.
- all our CF servers have had the webservice headers hot-fix applied.
I've stumped our local list (CFAussie) - aparently not many webservices are used in Australia (or they work without grief so (1) above applies here)
cfscript
ws = CreateObject("webservice",
"https://www.stratapay.com.au/ecommservices.asmx?WSDL");
addRequestHeader(ws, "authID", "test");
addRequestHeader(ws, "password", "test");
addRequestHeader(ws, "timeStamp", "#now()#");
ans = ws.checkPaymentComplex("test", "test 123");
/cfscript
cfoutput#ans#/cfoutput
cfdump var="#ws#"
no go. "Could not generate stub objects for web service invocation"
HOWEVER, we can using a tool called soapScope and it all works fine - correct response headers, sensible answer, etc.
We can CFDUMP the webservice object (before the method call) and it all looks good. Start adding header info and it craps out.
I just hope it doesn't go down this path. I really don't want to re-do this in Java
http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/webforums/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=7threadid=781179
any thoughts greatfully recieved
thanx
barry beattie
request (using soapScope):
===
soap:Envelope
xmlns:s0="http://tempuri.org/stratapayMKII/eCommServices"
xmlns:soap="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/envelope/"
xmlns:xs="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema"
soap:Header
s0:StrataPayAuthenticator
s0:authIDtest/s0:authID
s0:passwordtest/s0:password
s0:timeStamp2003-11-12/s0:timeStamp
/s0:StrataPayAuthenticator
/soap:Header
soap:Body
s0:checkPaymentComplex
s0:payIDtest/s0:payID
s0:invoiceNumbertest/s0:invoiceNumber
/s0:checkPaymentComplex
/soap:Body
/soap:Envelope
response (using soapScope):
=
soap:Envelope
xmlns:soap="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/envelope/"
xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance"
xmlns:xsd="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema"
soap:Header
StrataPayAuthenticator
xmlns="http://tempuri.org/stratapayMKII/eCommServices"
authIDtest/authID
passwordtest/password
timeStamp /
/StrataPayAuthenticator
/soap:Header
soap:Body
checkPaymentComplexResponse
xmlns="http://tempuri.org/stratapayMKII/eCommServices"
checkPaymentComplexResult0/checkPaymentComplexResult
/checkPaymentComplexResponse
/soap:Body
/soap:Envelope
CODE:
===
cfscript
ws = CreateObject("webservice",
"https://www.stratapay.com.au/ecommservices.asmx?WSDL");
addRequestHeader(ws, "authID", "test");
addRequestHeader(ws, "password", "test");
addRequestHeader(ws, "timeStamp", "#now()#");
ans = ws.checkPaymentComplex("test", "test 123");
/cfscript
cfoutput#ans#/cfoutput
cfdump var="#ws#"
ERROR (using CF code above)
Could not generate stub objects for web service invocation.
Name: https://www.stratapay.com.au/ecommservices.asmx?WSDL.
WSDL: https://www.stratapay.com.au/ecommservices.asmx?WSDL.
java.net.MalformedURLException: unknown protocol: https
It is recommended that you use a web browser to retrieve and examine the requested WSDL document for correctness. If the requested WSDL document can't be retrieved or it is dynamically generated, it is likely that the target web service has programming errors.
The Error Occurred in C:\CFusionMX\wwwroot\webservice\testwscall.cfm:
line 15
13 :
14 : cfscript
15 : ws = CreateObject("webservice",
"https://www.stratapay.com.au/ecommservices.asmx?WSDL");
16 : addRequestHeader(ws, "authID", "test");
17 : addRequestHeader(ws, "password", "test");
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Re: [ cf-dev ] MVC
I don't have anything on there at the moment, but shortly I'llhave some samples on cfstandards. Check back with me on that later ;) ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, eTRILOGY ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Master Instructor http://www.cfstandards.org Sam Clement wrote: I'm learning about the MVC methodology and looking for good resources for beginners. I've found some good stuff from Benoit Hediard (blogmx code) but would like some more 'theory put into practice' type stuff. Currently I'm worried about not de-coupling my controllers from the model layer enough. They basically seem to mirror each other: Controller: ManagerUsers add/edit/delete user Model: Users Add/edit/delete user (maybe add authenticate/islogged/isAdmin etc.) Is it wise to break up the model layer into smaller separate cfcomponents or is it best to create larger cfcomponents that encapsulate separate business processes? I guess the skill is knowing which trade-offs are worth it (overly complex components vs. simple de-coupled components but a more complex architecture with more dependencies). Any help appreciated. _ Sam Clement ABOVE Studios Boutique Design Solutions 32 Clifford Street - Belmont Trinidad + Tobago - West Indies T: (868) 621 5159 W: abovestudios.com -- These lists are syncronised with the CFDeveloper forum at http://forum.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ CFDeveloper Sponsors and contributors:- *Hosting and support provided by CFMXhosting.co.uk* :: *ActivePDF provided by activepdf.com* *Forums provided by fusetalk.com* :: *ProWorkFlow provided by proworkflow.com* *Tutorials provided by helmguru.com* :: *Lists hosted by gradwell.com* To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [ cf-dev ] Giving up CF
exactly. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, eTRILOGY ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Master Instructor http://www.cfstandards.org Ellwood wrote: I would never give up my CF knowledge. I would absorb more additional knowledge but on jobs where I have a choice of what to use there is absolutely no consideration I need to make CF wins every time. The only instance that I would not use it is where the client specifically requires an alternative. Ellis C Wood BSc Ellwood Web Solutions T: 01623 459973 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.ellwoodwebsolutions.co.uk -Original Message- From: Simon Horwith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 26 May 2004 20:34 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] Giving up CF I have absolutely no intention of not using CF for web based application development. None at all. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, eTRILOGY ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Master Instructor http://www.cfstandards.org Justin MacCarthy wrote: Are there many here considering giving up CF development? If you had no legacy applications would you use CF still ?? Justin -- These lists are syncronised with the CFDeveloper forum at http://forum.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ CFDeveloper Sponsors and contributors:- *Hosting and support provided by CFMXhosting.co.uk* :: *ActivePDF provided by activepdf.com* *Forums provided by fusetalk.com* :: *ProWorkFlow provided by proworkflow.com* *Tutorials provided by helmguru.com* :: *Lists hosted by gradwell.com* To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- These lists are syncronised with the CFDeveloper forum at http://forum.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ CFDeveloper Sponsors and contributors:- *Hosting and support provided by CFMXhosting.co.uk* :: *ActivePDF provided by activepdf.com* *Forums provided by fusetalk.com* :: *ProWorkFlow provided by proworkflow.com* *Tutorials provided by helmguru.com* :: *Lists hosted by gradwell.com* To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [ cf-dev ] The chicken or the egg
I've found that it's very difficult for om[anies in the UK to get good CF help. By the way - if I were going to hone my skills in a market other than CF it wouldn't be .NET, it'd be JAVA. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, eTRILOGY ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Master Instructor http://www.cfstandards.org Ellwood wrote: I have heard many discussions on this forum about the lack of Coldfusion jobs and whether we should retrain in ASP and the like. My recent experience has shown me an alternative viewpoint. My current contract is for an employer who is in the midst of making the decision to move from CF to .NET and his main reason is that he cant get any Coldfusion programmers. There is a virtual glut of asp programmers leaving University and a great source of the valuable resource he needs. So which came first, the lack of jobs or the lack of programmers? Ellis C Wood BSc Ellwood Web Solutions T: 01623 459973 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.ellwoodwebsolutions.co.uk -- These lists are syncronised with the CFDeveloper forum at http://forum.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ CFDeveloper Sponsors and contributors:- *Hosting and support provided by CFMXhosting.co.uk* :: *ActivePDF provided by activepdf.com* *Forums provided by fusetalk.com* :: *ProWorkFlow provided by proworkflow.com* *Tutorials provided by helmguru.com* :: *Lists hosted by gradwell.com* To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[ cf-dev ] Job posting I thought I'd forward
A recruiter I know asked if I knew anybody that fits the bill below. Thought I'd forward the contact and position information to you all: Cold Fusion Developer Join a growing team of development experts in a fast moving, market leading Internet company. Our client is seeking a strong Cold fusion Developer with a minimum of 3 years Cold Fusion experience coupled with excellent SQL skills. Essential skills include: Coldfusion (3-4 years) and SQL. T-SQL, stored procedures, Fusebox and a degree education are desirable skills. Salary is flexible depending on experience. Type: Permanent Location: London Start date: ASAP Salary: 30,000 - 35,000 Reference: 1032789644 Contact: Heather Olean Resource Manager Mobilus Ltd Siena Court The Broadway Maidenhead Berkshire SL6 1NJ Tel 01628 509009 Mob 07765 255744 Fax 01628 509100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Simon Horwith CTO, eTRILOGY ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Master Instructor http://www.cfstandards.org -- These lists are syncronised with the CFDeveloper forum at http://forum.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ CFDeveloper Sponsors and contributors:- *Hosting and support provided by CFMXhosting.co.uk* :: *ActivePDF provided by activepdf.com* *Forums provided by fusetalk.com* :: *ProWorkFlow provided by proworkflow.com* *Tutorials provided by helmguru.com* :: *Lists hosted by gradwell.com* To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[ cf-dev ] Community Week!
Macromedia will be holding their first community week this May 17 - 21. The week will feature MacroChats and a world-wide CFUG. Find out more at: http://www.macromedia.com/community/ ~Simon -- Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -- These lists are syncronised with the CFDeveloper forum at http://forum.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ CFDeveloper Sponsors and contributors:- *Hosting and support provided by CFMXhosting.co.uk* :: *ActivePDF provided by activepdf.com* *Forums provided by fusetalk.com* :: *ProWorkFlow provided by proworkflow.com* *Tutorials provided by helmguru.com* :: *Lists hosted by gradwell.com* To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [ cf-dev ] Using a Com Object in application variable or session variable
If there is nothing user specific about the COM object instance for any given user then your boss is completely right - why store duplicate instances of the same object if one instance can be used by all of the site visitors? ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ Ragae Wassef wrote: I need an expert answer on this issue. On my company we are using clustered servers and I build a very small project which is 4 pages In which I have to instantiate a com object. My approach was to save the object in a session variable to call the different methods through out the session, but my VP kind a ordered me to use an Application variable for the com object. I would like your insight Thanks -- These lists are syncronised with the CFDeveloper forum at http://forum.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ CFDeveloper Sponsors and contributors:- *Hosting and support provided by CFMXhosting.co.uk* :: *ActivePDF provided by activepdf.com* *Forums provided by fusetalk.com* :: *ProWorkFlow provided by proworkflow.com* *Tutorials provided by helmguru.com* :: *Lists hosted by gradwell.com* To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [ cf-dev ] best practices and example MX sites
I've established a site to define best practices and to begin distributing modules... but at the moment there isn't any content. I'm developing all of the site functionality myself so it's slow going, but standards are going to be defined soon, with modules to follow. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ Stephen Moretti wrote: Paul Johnston wrote: Just wondering, if there are some decent best practices documents, all in one place, for ColdFusion MX? I have seen many different MX sites, and haven't really seen a structured approach that wasn't based on either Mach-II or on CF5 as yet. Are there any best practices and example sites that people could point me in the direction of for hte coldfusion.org.uk portal? Paul PS I know that MM do them, but was after some others too. Here's Nathan Dintenfass' CFC best practices with a link to Sean Corfield's Best practice document. http://dintenfass.com/cfcbestpractices/ Sean, although an employee of MM, created these from the various mailing lists eg. CF-Talk and a pre-existing set of best practices, as well as adding MM's developers' best practices as well Stephen -- These lists are syncronised with the CFDeveloper forum at http://forum.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ CFDeveloper Sponsors and contributors:- *Hosting and support provided by CFMXhosting.co.uk* :: *ActivePDF provided by activepdf.com* *Forums provided by fusetalk.com* :: *ProWorkFlow provided by proworkflow.com* *Tutorials provided by helmguru.com* :: *Lists hosted by gradwell.com* To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [ cf-dev ] Mach II
I've developed a CMS and have developed sites with several off the shelf CMS'. I've never been a FB fan... not at all, but I did look at MACH II and found some of the framework interesting. I don't know that I would ever choose to use it personally, but it is much more flexible and more properly designed than FB was. I also prefer it over Spectra... but I've definitely seen CMS' that I like more (they're not free, though). ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) wrote: Whats everyones take on the Mach II Framework? This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Oriel House, 26 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DL, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -- These lists are syncronised with the CFDeveloper forum at http://forum.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ CFDeveloper Sponsors and contributors:- *Hosting and support provided by CFMXhosting.co.uk* :: *ActivePDF provided by activepdf.com* *Forums provided by fusetalk.com* :: *ProWorkFlow provided by proworkflow.com* *Tutorials provided by helmguru.com* :: *Lists hosted by gradwell.com* To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [ cf-dev ] The state of ColdFusion in the UK
I know you may not realise it, ut 20 attendees isn't bad at all... I've presented/attended countless CFUGs... you'd be surprised how few people show-up for some CFUGs. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ Taz wrote: I mean we have a very few user groups (which I am not knocking). The main reason why we have few user groups is apathy. Stephen and I put a fair amount of our time and money into the Northern CFUG, and I think the maximum attendance at any meeting was 20... and that was probably because we were at Freeserve's (ahem, or Wanadoo or whatever) office and we were offering about 5 books and a licensed copy of CFMX. People just weren't interested... especially if it meant getting on a train to go to the meeting. This is obviously not a gripe against the user group's members. It costs money to get to meetings, and it's a night away from home where you could be watching the footie or something. But all credit to those who did turn up, sponsor meetings, share their offices, time, etc. I agree with you about MM though. They don't exactly have their finger on the pulse when it comes to the User Groups. Just look at the UK groups page on their site: http://tinyurl.com/38zko The Northern CFUG shut down last summer, and it's still advertised. We used to have to harass them for days to get them to advertise a meeting on their mailing list. But then the UK MM office is quite small, and I suspect that they were busy with everything else. Still... Blimey! Have I just replied to a post on the dev list? What is the world coming to? I'd better get back to talking crap on chat. Taz -- These lists are syncronised with the CFDeveloper forum at http://forum.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ CFDeveloper Sponsors and contributors:- *Hosting and support provided by CFMXhosting.co.uk* :: *ActivePDF provided by activepdf.com* *Forums provided by fusetalk.com* :: *ProWorkFlow provided by proworkflow.com* *Tutorials provided by helmguru.com* :: *Lists hosted by gradwell.com* To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [ cf-dev ] CFMX and XML
I'm not sure what PaperThin is planning for the next release, but their CMS is ridiculously easy to extend... it wouldn't be difficult to add and XML support you need to the system. ~Simon Lovelock, Richard J wrote: OK thanks Nick I am just searching Paperthin's site/forums to try and find info on XML compatability. Version 4.0 is due to be released very soon - I have just read the overview of new features and there is no mention of XML (but that may be because there is some XML functionality already from previous versions) ___ Regards, Richard Lovelock, Senior Application Analyst. Westminster City Council - Web Support Cap Gemini Ernst Young Southbank 95 Wandsworth Road London SW8 2HG Tel: 0870 906 7482 ___ -Original Message- From: Nick de Voil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 06 April 2004 09:46 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] CFMX and XML Richard I have read that CFMX has many new features to make handling XML easier. Is this from the viewpoint of actually receiving and processing an XML/RSS feed rather than creating one? Both - but yes, more the former than the latter. I have been asked if it is feasible to create an RSS feed from our website (which uses Commonspot CMS) but we are due to go to CFMX from CF5 in near future and wandered if there is any benefit in waiting for this? (i.e. will it make my life any easier) Creating an RSS feed is straightforward anyway - the only difficult bit is understanding all the different RSS standards - so I wouldn't bother waiting. But doesn't Commonspot have this functionality built in? If it doesn't already, I'd imagine it won't be long coming. Nick -- Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -- These lists are syncronised with the CFDeveloper forum at http://forum.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ CFDeveloper Sponsors and contributors:- *Hosting and support provided by CFMXhosting.co.uk* :: *ActivePDF provided by activepdf.com* *Forums provided by fusetalk.com* :: *ProWorkFlow provided by proworkflow.com* *Tutorials provided by helmguru.com* :: *Lists hosted by gradwell.com* To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [ cf-dev ] Jakarta Lucerne
there was an application that does this on DRK 3 as well. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Mark Woods [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 March 2004 13:11 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] Jakarta Lucerne Anyone used Jakarta Lucerne as an alternative to Verity? http://jakarta.apache.org/lucene/docs/index.html Nope, but FYI - CFDJ has a couple of articles about Lucene with instructions for using it via cfscript and for creating CFXs. Lucence is also used in the new version of Bluedragon to implement cfsearch, cfindex and cfcollection. Mark -- These lists are syncronised with the CFDeveloper forum at http://forum.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ CFDeveloper Sponsors and contributors:- *Hosting and support provided by CFMXhosting.co.uk* :: *ActivePDF provided by activepdf.com* *Forums provided by fusetalk.com* :: *ProWorkFlow provided by proworkflow.com* *Tutorials provided by helmguru.com* :: *Lists hosted by gradwell.com* To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- These lists are syncronised with the CFDeveloper forum at http://forum.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ CFDeveloper Sponsors and contributors:- *Hosting and support provided by CFMXhosting.co.uk* :: *ActivePDF provided by activepdf.com* *Forums provided by fusetalk.com* :: *ProWorkFlow provided by proworkflow.com* *Tutorials provided by helmguru.com* :: *Lists hosted by gradwell.com* To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [ cf-dev ] Jakarta Lucerne
there was also an imaging application on a DRK (I'm not sure if it was 3, 4, or 5). ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: sanjay sidar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 March 2004 16:10 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Jakarta Lucerne hi guys, is there anyone who knows about applications on image libraries using thubnails, as i am trying to do a project in coldfusion mx and i am finding it very difficult. As you may have guessed i am a complete novice, so any help would be much apprecited cheers sanjay From: Adam Hope [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Jakarta Lucerne Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 15:11:31 - We have been using lucene as a replacement for verity for the last 2 years due to the fact that we had to index over 100,000 files a day. It's very fast, easy to use and very portable. If you need any help just shout. Adam. -Original Message- From: Rich Wild [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 March 2004 13:16 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Jakarta Lucerne brill, thanks fellas! -Original Message- From: Justin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 March 2004 13:17 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Jakarta Lucerne Yeah I think Arron wrote those aticles, lots more info at his blog http://cephas.net/blog/ Justin -Original Message- From: Mark Woods [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 March 2004 13:11 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] Jakarta Lucerne Anyone used Jakarta Lucerne as an alternative to Verity? http://jakarta.apache.org/lucene/docs/index.html Nope, but FYI - CFDJ has a couple of articles about Lucene with instructions for using it via cfscript and for creating CFXs. Lucence is also used in the new version of Bluedragon to implement cfsearch, cfindex and cfcollection. Mark -- These lists are syncronised with the CFDeveloper forum at http://forum.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ CFDeveloper Sponsors and contributors:- *Hosting and support provided by CFMXhosting.co.uk* :: *ActivePDF provided by activepdf.com* *Forums provided by fusetalk.com* :: *ProWorkFlow provided by proworkflow.com* *Tutorials provided by helmguru.com* :: *Lists hosted by gradwell.com* To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- These lists are syncronised with the CFDeveloper forum at http://forum.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ CFDeveloper Sponsors and contributors:- *Hosting and support provided by CFMXhosting.co.uk* :: *ActivePDF provided by activepdf.com* *Forums provided by fusetalk.com* :: *ProWorkFlow provided by proworkflow.com* *Tutorials provided by helmguru.com* :: *Lists hosted by gradwell.com* To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- These lists are syncronised with the CFDeveloper forum at http://forum.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ CFDeveloper Sponsors and contributors:- *Hosting and support provided by CFMXhosting.co.uk* :: *ActivePDF provided by activepdf.com* *Forums provided by fusetalk.com* :: *ProWorkFlow provided by proworkflow.com* *Tutorials provided by helmguru.com* :: *Lists hosted by gradwell.com* To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- These lists are syncronised with the CFDeveloper forum at http://forum.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ CFDeveloper Sponsors and contributors:- *Hosting and support provided by CFMXhosting.co.uk* :: *ActivePDF provided by activepdf.com* *Forums provided by fusetalk.com* :: *ProWorkFlow provided by proworkflow.com* *Tutorials provided by helmguru.com* :: *Lists hosted by gradwell.com* To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Stay in touch with absent friends - get MSN Messenger http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger -- These lists are syncronised with the CFDeveloper forum at http://forum.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ CFDeveloper Sponsors and contributors:- *Hosting and support provided by CFMXhosting.co.uk* :: *ActivePDF provided by activepdf.com* *Forums provided by fusetalk.com* :: *ProWorkFlow provided by proworkflow.com* *Tutorials provided by helmguru.com* :: *Lists hosted by gradwell.com* To unsubscribe, e-mail
RE: [ cf-dev ] 5=MX Upgrade query
I'm not sure what Macromedia thinks of it but as you said, a firewall or proxy server could assign all machines on your network the same outbound IP Address. I'm sure it'd be frowned upon. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Paolo Piponi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 February 2004 16:48 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] 5=MX Upgrade query If you place the server on a network's DMZ and all access it through a firewall I suspect the server will only see one IP address. Never tried, but seems feasible in theory. However, you might not want such a server outside the firewall. Paolo -Original Message- From: John Beynon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 February 2004 16:38 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] 5=MX Upgrade query Nope, you will be the only ip to access it along with via 127.0.0.1. If you're using cf6.1 you can restart the service to release the ip, cf6 needs the xml file to be played with. -Original Message- From: Duncan Jack [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 February 2004 16:30 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] 5=MX Upgrade query Cunning eh? I can access the developer edition over our LAN no problem (either directly via my browser or from Dreamweaver). I doubt it would allow simultaneous threads though... Duncan Jack Manager Scottish ColdFusion User Group promoting e-business excellence www.scottishcfug.com +44 (0) 7973 718303 Important Note: This message contains confidential information which is intended to be passed to the addressee only. Please advise the sender by telephone on the number shown above if this message has been sent in error to the wrong address. We acknowledge that e-mail is not an entirely secure medium of communication and you should be aware of this when replying. Although we believe that any attachments are free from any virus, we can give no guarantee. -Original Message- From: Lovelock, Richard J [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 February 2004 16:10 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] 5=MX Upgrade query that's why it's called Developer Edition then :oD :oD Cheers Duncan out of interest - would that be accessible from multiple PCs within a LAN? i.e. not for external hits but to use for a very small team intranet application with say no more than 10 people on the same network accessing pages off the server? (or can you only use it by logging on to the physical server and accessing pages via http://127.0.0.1 )? ___ * Regards, Richard Lovelock, Senior Application Analyst. Westminster City Council - Web Support Cap Gemini Ernst Young Southbank 95 Wandsworth Road London SW8 2HG ( 0870 906 7482 ___ -Original Message- From: Duncan Jack [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 February 2004 16:03 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] 5=MX Upgrade query As I understand it, you can just install the Developer Edition from the same CD in your development environment. But then that's accessible only from one remote IP address (at a time). Duncan Jack Manager Scottish ColdFusion User Group promoting e-business excellence www.scottishcfug.com +44 (0) 7973 718303 Important Note: This message contains confidential information which is intended to be passed to the addressee only. Please advise the sender by telephone on the number shown above if this message has been sent in error to the wrong address. We acknowledge that e-mail is not an entirely secure medium of communication and you should be aware of this when replying. Although we believe that any attachments are free from any virus, we can give no guarantee. -Original Message- From: Lovelock, Richard J [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 February 2004 14:37 To: 'cflist' Subject: [ cf-dev ] 5=MX Upgrade query Hi guys phew..nearly weekend we are upgrading from 5.0 == MX in the near future. We will be purchasing the required licenses etc (not sure of the exact arrangements for this) for our production server Can someone tell me, do we have to buy an additional license/serial/spftware to install a copy on our dev web server or can we use the same software product as going on the prod server and install it on dev too - the dev site should only be used internally (i.e. as localhost/ 127.0.0.1)? ___?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office / * Regards, Richard Lovelock, Senior Application Analyst. Westminster City
RE: [ cf-dev ] Coldfusion Developer
I wouldn't say webservices is a luke warm topic. As a matter of fact, I'm writing you from the U.S. right now... I came and presented at the Edge WebServices conference in Boston.. lots of companies doing interesting things with webservices. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Stephen Moretti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 February 2004 11:16 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] Coldfusion Developer Webservices were a hot topic about 2/3 years ago. It's only a luke warm topic now imho. 'fraid its on the up again.. It all petered off to almost nothing, but there have been ever increasing questions about consuming web services on the various lists in the last 3 months. I'm not sure if I can be bothered to take the exam. Especially as it's asking a lot of questions about tags and attributes (isn't that what docs are for???)... Totally agree... This is most of the reason why in 8 years I've never bothered with the certification. I'm not great at exams or remembering stuff, but (most of the time) I'm bloody good at finding out or working out how to do something. and also qoq... why? surely with CFMX, you do all the data abstraction in a CFC and work from there. I haven't really seen a need to do qoq very much in any application (anyone disagree???) as I see it as partially poor database and code design *ducks*. Heh heh... Yes unfortunately that does seem to be the reason a lot of people use QofQ and, until recently, I've avoided it like the plague. There is a place and time to use it, but there are few and far between. Getting subsets of data that the application already has access to is about the only thing I use it for. Quicker than going back to the DB and saves on caching. Stephen -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [ cf-dev ] Session Management!?
I'm assuming you're using the session scope to store session information? How are you logging them out? Whenever logout is supposed to happen (and/or immediately prior to doing whatever happens when they try to log-in) you want to cfset structClear(session) ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: (s) Fiona Tope [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 February 2004 20:18 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ cf-dev ] Session Management!? Hi ALL, This is my first posting and I am a beginner of developing website with ColdFusion. Is there a simple way to re-set a session everytime a user login to browse a website. My website doesn't seem to distinguish different user login id and password, the hyperlink in the webpage still be highlighted from the previous user when a new user login detail is used. Please advise. Thanks, Fiona -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [ cf-dev ] Bug in output?
why not just do: cfoutputlt;nbsp;#oTest.getNumber()#/cfoutput ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Aidan Whitehall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 February 2004 14:13 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ cf-dev ] Bug in output? Code: cfset oTest = createObject(component, somepath.Test) cfoutput #oTest.getNumber()#/cfoutput Test.cfc: cfcomponent cffunction name=getNumber access=public returntype=numeric output=false cfreturn 9 /cffunction /cfcomponent Anticipated output: (space)9 Actual output 9 It doesn't matter if the value returned is a number or string, you still loose the space between '' and the value returned. If you change the '' character to any other, the space between the character and the value returned appears in the source. This is on CFMX 6.1. Can anyone else reproduce? -- Aidan Whitehall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Macromedia ColdFusion Developer Fairbanks Environmental Ltd +44 (0)1695 51775 Queen's Awards Winner 2003 http://www.fairbanks.co.uk/go/awards Fairbanks uses anti-spam filtering. If you sent an e-mail and expected to receive a response but didn't, please call -- it may be that your e-mail didn't make it to the intended mailbox. This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star Internet. The service is powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit: http://www.star.net.uk -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [ cf-dev ] FW: ColdFusion Studio
I don't know whether it's fair to say that Dreamweaver MX 2004 has a tendancy to ruin code... I haven't had any problems. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 February 2004 15:53 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] FW: ColdFusion Studio ColdFusion was and is the IDE for coding in CF from the Allaire days. It has now been replaced with Homesite+ a sort of merge between Homesite 5.5 and ColdFusion Studio. Studio in itself is no longer developed or sold in that name, you need to purchase DWMX2004 to get it in its Homesite guise. Many older-skool developers still use it as it behaves as simple Text Editor rather than the over weight DW in the CF areaoh and it doesn't ruin your code which DW has a tendancy to do. Homesite was bought by Allaire way back from Nick Bradbury I believe (of TopStyle fame as well) and turned into Studiothough they did sell it as Homesite. HTH N -Original Message- From: Lovelock, Richard J [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 February 2004 15:13 To: 'cflist' Subject: [ cf-dev ] FW: ColdFusion Studio Guys I am sorry if you got this this morning and if someone replied but when i sent it this morning my resubscription to the list after my snowboarding trip hadn't been activated so I didnt get any replies if there were any. So would appreciate if someone could comment on the points below now I am back on the list Thanks -Original Message- Hey Guys Happy Friday I am reading a CF text (Optimizing CF 5) and it touches on ColdFusion Studio. I have not actually used this - in my 18 month involvement with CF I have been using Dreamweaver MX What is the deal with ColdFusion Studio - is this a coding product that ships with earlier versions of CF? Has it actually been replaced by Dreamweaver as a coding environment? Does it have any advantages over Dreamweaver that would warrant a switch to using it? I have also heard of HomeSite - but not too sure how this fits in to the picture? If anyone could clear this picture up would be grateful ;o) ___ * Regards, Richard Lovelock, Senior Application Analyst. Westminster City Council - Web Support Cap Gemini Ernst Young Southbank 95 Wandsworth Road London SW8 2HG ( 0870 906 7482 ___ === This message contains information that may be privileged or confidential and is the property of the Cap Gemini Ernst Young Group. It is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are not authorised to read, print, retain, copy, disseminate, distribute, or use this message or any part thereof. If you receive this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete all copies of this message. === This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Oriel House, 26 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DL, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [ cf-dev ] FW: ColdFusion Studio
oh yeh... particularly pre-MX versions... I remember DW 3 doing some horrible shit to my code (I believe it crammed all of the CFML in a page to the top) when a designer opened one of my files. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 February 2004 16:05 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] FW: ColdFusion Studio True, I will give you that. DWMX2004 has been far far better and indeed the upcoming release is destined to be even better. Previous versions of DW l did have tendancies to write out gobbledygook, especially when you had to bind to a site etc N -Original Message- From: Simon Horwith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 February 2004 16:02 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] FW: ColdFusion Studio I don't know whether it's fair to say that Dreamweaver MX 2004 has a tendancy to ruin code... I haven't had any problems. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 February 2004 15:53 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] FW: ColdFusion Studio ColdFusion was and is the IDE for coding in CF from the Allaire days. It has now been replaced with Homesite+ a sort of merge between Homesite 5.5 and ColdFusion Studio. Studio in itself is no longer developed or sold in that name, you need to purchase DWMX2004 to get it in its Homesite guise. Many older-skool developers still use it as it behaves as simple Text Editor rather than the over weight DW in the CF areaoh and it doesn't ruin your code which DW has a tendancy to do. Homesite was bought by Allaire way back from Nick Bradbury I believe (of TopStyle fame as well) and turned into Studiothough they did sell it as Homesite. HTH N -Original Message- From: Lovelock, Richard J [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 February 2004 15:13 To: 'cflist' Subject: [ cf-dev ] FW: ColdFusion Studio Guys I am sorry if you got this this morning and if someone replied but when i sent it this morning my resubscription to the list after my snowboarding trip hadn't been activated so I didnt get any replies if there were any. So would appreciate if someone could comment on the points below now I am back on the list Thanks -Original Message- Hey Guys Happy Friday I am reading a CF text (Optimizing CF 5) and it touches on ColdFusion Studio. I have not actually used this - in my 18 month involvement with CF I have been using Dreamweaver MX What is the deal with ColdFusion Studio - is this a coding product that ships with earlier versions of CF? Has it actually been replaced by Dreamweaver as a coding environment? Does it have any advantages over Dreamweaver that would warrant a switch to using it? I have also heard of HomeSite - but not too sure how this fits in to the picture? If anyone could clear this picture up would be grateful ;o) ___ * Regards, Richard Lovelock, Senior Application Analyst. Westminster City Council - Web Support Cap Gemini Ernst Young Southbank 95 Wandsworth Road London SW8 2HG ( 0870 906 7482 ___ === This message contains information that may be privileged or confidential and is the property of the Cap Gemini Ernst Young Group. It is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are not authorised to read, print, retain, copy, disseminate, distribute, or use this message or any part thereof. If you receive this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete all copies of this message. === This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Oriel House, 26 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DL, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those
RE: [ cf-dev ] FW: ColdFusion Studio
hmm. never seen that behavior so I can't comment. doesn't sound fun, though. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Snake Hollywood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 February 2004 17:55 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] FW: ColdFusion Studio I had dwmx2004 on 2 diff machines, both did the same, open the file, sav ethe file, it turns to garbage. I lost a lot fo work as result. -Original Message- From: Simon Horwith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 February 2004 17:34 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] FW: ColdFusion Studio is this DW MX 2004? I have seen some faulty installs of DW do some bad things to files, but I've also seen corrupt CF Studio installs do the same thing. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Snake Hollywood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 February 2004 17:13 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] FW: ColdFusion Studio I installed DWMX and it saved a huge 200k file as junk. -Original Message- From: Simon Horwith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 February 2004 16:02 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] FW: ColdFusion Studio I don't know whether it's fair to say that Dreamweaver MX 2004 has a tendancy to ruin code... I haven't had any problems. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 February 2004 15:53 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] FW: ColdFusion Studio ColdFusion was and is the IDE for coding in CF from the Allaire days. It has now been replaced with Homesite+ a sort of merge between Homesite 5.5 and ColdFusion Studio. Studio in itself is no longer developed or sold in that name, you need to purchase DWMX2004 to get it in its Homesite guise. Many older-skool developers still use it as it behaves as simple Text Editor rather than the over weight DW in the CF areaoh and it doesn't ruin your code which DW has a tendancy to do. Homesite was bought by Allaire way back from Nick Bradbury I believe (of TopStyle fame as well) and turned into Studiothough they did sell it as Homesite. HTH N -Original Message- From: Lovelock, Richard J [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 February 2004 15:13 To: 'cflist' Subject: [ cf-dev ] FW: ColdFusion Studio Guys I am sorry if you got this this morning and if someone replied but when i sent it this morning my resubscription to the list after my snowboarding trip hadn't been activated so I didnt get any replies if there were any. So would appreciate if someone could comment on the points below now I am back on the list Thanks -Original Message- Hey Guys Happy Friday I am reading a CF text (Optimizing CF 5) and it touches on ColdFusion Studio. I have not actually used this - in my 18 month involvement with CF I have been using Dreamweaver MX What is the deal with ColdFusion Studio - is this a coding product that ships with earlier versions of CF? Has it actually been replaced by Dreamweaver as a coding environment? Does it have any advantages over Dreamweaver that would warrant a switch to using it? I have also heard of HomeSite - but not too sure how this fits in to the picture? If anyone could clear this picture up would be grateful ;o) ___ * Regards, Richard Lovelock, Senior Application Analyst. Westminster City Council - Web Support Cap Gemini Ernst Young Southbank 95 Wandsworth Road London SW8 2HG ( 0870 906 7482 ___ === This message contains information that may be privileged or confidential and is the property of the Cap Gemini Ernst Young Group. It is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are not authorised to read, print, retain, copy, disseminate, distribute, or use this message or any part thereof. If you receive this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete all copies of this message
RE: [ cf-dev ] cfstandards...coming soon!
Three remarks/replies: As to fusebox and obfusctating the design. To be honest shit coder in, shit code out. Makes no difference what they do it in. - yes, but Fusebox doesn't encourage people to become better developers. If anything, It makes it easier for them to get by with little skill for longer. it is overkill and I avoid like the plague - me too it does have it's uses - like lining a bird cage? Seriously, though - you're right. In an environment where standardization is important and the developers don't have the skills to use best practices, follow development guidlines, or write 'complex' functionality on their own, it does have merit. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Adam Reynolds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 February 2004 12:43 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] cfstandards...coming soon! I'd go with the fact once you setup whichever version of fusebox you want to play with on your machine, then deploy it onto a server. You forget the behind the scenes stuff you have setup to do some of the fusebox stuff. Suddenly it's the host's fault that something ain't running right cos it works fine on *my* machine. Russ, I do think you should be charging for this, which I hope you are! As to fusebox and obfusctating the design. To be honest shit coder in, shit code out. Makes no difference what they do it in. Unfortunately FB does not help if somebody is doing some amazingly awful coding. It will make it worse from a maintenance point of view. Personally I like FB. Coming from a Software Engineering background (if you ever fly, I was part of the team that wrote the NERC aircraft collision detection system that covers most of the south east commercial traffic) it gave me an event driven model for web applications which lent itself to taking the product of requirements analysis all the way through to writing test harnesses. It depends on why you are using it. I do find in many cases it is overkill and I avoid like the plague, but should you get into a set of requirements that are into more than a couple of pages...it does have it's uses. Adam -Original Message- From: Kola Oyedeji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 February 2004 10:36 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] cfstandards...coming soon! Coming in late here... But just to clarify, Russ are you saying that you're finding more bugs/errors in fusebox applications in comparison to non-fusebox applications or just pointing out that its harder to debug a Fusebox application than a non-fusebox application (for a non fuseboxer)? Kola -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[ cf-dev ] cfstandards...coming soon!
I apologize to those of you have already read this post on CF-Talk, but since I publicly mentioned it on that list and I'd briefly mentioned it on some other lists some time ago without divulging any details, I thought I'd post the information to this list so that you are more aware of the project I've begun. The site is cfstandards.org, and is committed to the definition of ColdFusion Standards in application functionality and coding practices. The site's still under development, but you can sign up for the newsletter, begin making suggestions for projects, and apply to be a volunteer right now. I'll diverge more details when the time is right, but for now I'll let you all know a few things about the project: 1. all of the code is open source and free 2. the site will not be a distribution point for UDFs, custom tags, etc. The purpose of the site is to develop modules for functionality common to web applications... very similar to jakarta and the J2EE specification itself 3. in addition to modules for plug and play functionality, the site will also begin defining development best practices... this will include CFML syntax, the organization of code, documentation, and more 4. I am putting together a panel of experts in the industry - development gurus and representatives from the big industry players - to make decisions regarding these best practices and to make decisions regarding which proposed projects and standards to accept and reject 5. all of the modules will adhere to these coding standards and the panel, along with other cfstandards gurus, will determine whether or not content submitted by volunteers meets these coding standards There's a little bit of information about the project on the site right now (http://www.cfstandards.org) but like I said, there will be a lot more functionality and information very soon. I have already begun receiving emails from developers that read about the project in my MAX summary back in November (page 2 of http://sys-con.com/coldfusion/article.cfm?id=684) and I encourage any developers on the UK Devlist that are interested in contributing to contact me off-list via email or via the web site if you wait a day or two. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [ cf-dev ] cfstandards...coming soon!
so you all know, I'm not sugggesting an alternative to fusebox with the site and it's projects... the idea is to offer modules that drop-in to ANY CFML application (fusebox, MACH II, farcry, anything else, and none of the above) for plug and play functionality that is easily configurable. The site will also help to define syntax and architectural standards. That said, I'm not a fan of fusebox either ;) ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: ellwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 February 2004 14:08 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] cfstandards...coming soon! H... CF_UNRANT Am I sensing a tad bit of animosity to fusebox? i would suggest that there is nothing wrong with fusebox. the problem is with testing. Fusebox methods allow the programmer to test each and every module without plugging it into a site, are they doing this? probably not, as most people test once they have finished building. fusebox, IS howevere, more difficult to debug once it is built as it is full of includes which need to be traced through (a major pain in the proverbial). Perhaps rant about people not testing their code than the methodology used. I have been using fusebox now for 6 months and host some sites on your servers with no probs and when I do get probs it is innevitably a typo or standard CF problem. /CF_UNRANT -Original Message- From: Snake Hollywood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 February 2004 13:58 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] cfstandards...coming soon! Lets hope this might teach more people how to build frameworks and write modular code instead of pissing about with Fusecrap. cf_bitch Yes I am having a moan about fusebox again. Why? Because we have an increasing number of hosting customers with sites written in fusebox, and most of them has come to us at some point with a broken site or a cferror and have insisted it is oour fault and there is a problem with our servers insisting there is no problem with their code. We (meaning me) then have to go and debug their fusebox code to find the error and prove it's not our fault. On the occasions where I have said, sorry your sites written in fusebox that's the problem, I have got back quite a lot of abuse along the lines of I thought you were meant to be a good hosting company, this is shit service, there is nothing wrong with our code we know what we are doing... Etc etc... Of course I do get an apology when I give in and go and fix their code for them, but still I am getting a bit sick of it now, because it's always fusebox apps this happens with. I don't mind so much when it's regular code as I can usually tell what the problem is without having to wade around in their code first. I am absolutely adamant now that fusebox promotes developers to produce and use code they do not understand and to write apps they cannot debug. /cf_bitch Now all our customers who are on this list prob wont dare ask me about fusebox problems now :-) Don't be scared I'm lovely really... Russ Michaels Macromedia/Allaire Certified ColdFusion Developer CFMX Hosting Phone: 0845 456 3487 Tech Support: 0906 9607800 FAX: 0709 2212 636 WEB: cfmxhosting.co.uk Please use the support helpdesk on our web site to submit support tickets. Join our ColdFusion Developer discussion lists. Send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Simon Horwith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 February 2004 11:37 To: UK DevList (E-mail) Subject: [ cf-dev ] cfstandards...coming soon! I apologize to those of you have already read this post on CF-Talk, but since I publicly mentioned it on that list and I'd briefly mentioned it on some other lists some time ago without divulging any details, I thought I'd post the information to this list so that you are more aware of the project I've begun. The site is cfstandards.org, and is committed to the definition of ColdFusion Standards in application functionality and coding practices. The site's still under development, but you can sign up for the newsletter, begin making suggestions for projects, and apply to be a volunteer right now. I'll diverge more details when the time is right, but for now I'll let you all know a few things about the project: 1. all of the code is open source and free 2. the site will not be a distribution point for UDFs, custom tags, etc. The purpose of the site is to develop modules for functionality common to web applications... very similar to jakarta and the J2EE specification itself 3. in addition to modules for plug and play functionality, the site will also begin defining development best practices... this will include CFML syntax, the organization of code, documentation, and more 4. I am putting together a panel
RE: [ cf-dev ] dynamic PDF
you could also use javascript to open another window (with the PDF URI href location). ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Dan Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 February 2004 13:14 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] dynamic PDF -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Maybe yeah. I am using a link at the moment to see the PDF. | The system displays budget info for schools. To get a nice printout I am | using the PDF thingy which creates the PDF from the HTML page. | All seems to work ok but having to click a link to get the PDF is a pain as | I want it displayed straight away . | | I'll play on and see what I come up with. Just wondered if anyone else had | used it Could you not use a cflocation to redirect the browser to the generated PDF File? - -- Dan Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] MCBS Networking http://www.mcbs.org.uk -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFAHPuozCHUQZ3u670RAuTyAJ0abWD0QZ93RWfhB8ks0b347RA6rACfdjWL Nn0Jzcrl9B1IR9coyGK8umU= =eJVv -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [ cf-dev ] XML attribute
no problem. By the way, if you're parsing large XML files - there is a
default size limit when you parse XML using the SAX parser that ships with
CFMX (64,000). You can change this. Here's the URL for the Tech Note that
was published yesterday:
http://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion/ts/documents/xml_entity_limit.h
tm. For whatever reason, they left-off instructions for J2EE deployments...
I'd think the easiest way to do the same thing on JRun is to edit the
{JRun-Root}/bin/jvm.config file with the same JVM argument mentioned in the
tech note and then cycle the server(s),
~Simon
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Sent: 29 January 2004 10:00
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Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] XML attribute
the reason that you
pass the XML DOM when performing an XMLElemNew() function call is that
complex structures are passed by reference and every XML Node in a DOM
[snip]
Ah, OK, thanks.
One good way to do this is to create a
variable who's value is the length of the children array + 1
[snip]
Yeah, of course -- it's always obvious when someone points it out. Thank
you :-)
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RE: [ cf-dev ] XML attribute
the J2EE instructions are there now ;)
~Simon
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-Original Message-
From: Simon Horwith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 29 January 2004 10:03
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] XML attribute
no problem. By the way, if you're parsing large XML files - there is a
default size limit when you parse XML using the SAX parser that ships with
CFMX (64,000). You can change this. Here's the URL for the Tech Note that
was published yesterday:
http://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion/ts/documents/xml_entity_limit.h
tm. For whatever reason, they left-off instructions for J2EE deployments...
I'd think the easiest way to do the same thing on JRun is to edit the
{JRun-Root}/bin/jvm.config file with the same JVM argument mentioned in the
tech note and then cycle the server(s),
~Simon
Simon Horwith
CTO, Etrilogy Ltd.
Member of Team Macromedia
Macromedia Certified Instructor
Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
Certified Flash MX Developer
CFDJList - List Administrator
http://www.how2cf.com/
-Original Message-
From: Aidan Whitehall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 29 January 2004 10:00
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] XML attribute
the reason that you
pass the XML DOM when performing an XMLElemNew() function call is that
complex structures are passed by reference and every XML Node in a DOM
[snip]
Ah, OK, thanks.
One good way to do this is to create a
variable who's value is the length of the children array + 1
[snip]
Yeah, of course -- it's always obvious when someone points it out. Thank
you :-)
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RE: [ cf-dev ] XML attribute
To answer your second question first, as far as I know, the reason that you
pass the XML DOM when performing an XMLElemNew() function call is that
complex structures are passed by reference and every XML Node in a DOM
contains a key called XMLParent that is a pointer to the XML DOM the node
is nested within (it is useful when you get search results back from an
XMLSearch() XPATH searc and then want to loop over the results and access
the DOM). As for your first question, ArrayAppend() will only return true
- the easy way to know the children array index just added is to get the
current length of the array. One good way to do this is to create a
variable who's value is the length of the children array + 1 before adding
the new node: that variable would hold the index just created after the
insert has been performed. It would look like:
cfscript
xmlSites = XMLNew();
xmlSites.xmlRoot = XMLElemNew(variables.xmlSites,sites);
//add first site
nodeToAdd = arrayLen(variables.xmlSites.XMLRoot.XMLChildren) + 1;
xmlSites.XMLRoot.XMLChildren[variables.nodeToAdd] =
XMLElemNew(variables.xmlSites,site);
structInsert(variables.xmlSites.XMLRoot.XMLChildren[variables.nodeToAdd].XML
Attributes,ownerid,Texaco,true);
structInsert(variables.xmlSites.XMLRoot.XMLChildren[variables.nodeToAdd].XML
Attributes,siteid,123456,true);
writeOutput(Just added number variables.nodeToAdd to the
array!br);
//add second site
nodeToAdd = arrayLen(variables.xmlSites.XMLRoot.XMLChildren) + 1;
xmlSites.XMLRoot.XMLChildren[variables.nodeToAdd] =
XMLElemNew(variables.xmlSites,site);
structInsert(variables.xmlSites.XMLRoot.XMLChildren[variables.nodeToAdd].XML
Attributes,ownerid,Texaco,true);
structInsert(variables.xmlSites.XMLRoot.XMLChildren[variables.nodeToAdd].XML
Attributes,siteid,456789,true);
writeOutput(Just added number variables.nodeToAdd to the
array!br);
/cfscript
You can see that there's a lot of repetition in that code... a more elegant
aproach would be to use a function like so:
cfscript
function addSite(xmlDOM, xmlArrayToAppendTo,ownerid,siteid){
var nextNode = arrayLen(arguments.xmlArrayToAppendTo) + 1;
arguments.xmlArrayToAppendTo[nextNode] =
XMLElemNew(arguments.xmlDOM,site);
structInsert(arguments.xmlArrayToAppendTo[nextNode].XMLAttributes,ownerid,
arguments.ownerid,true);
structInsert(arguments.xmlArrayToAppendTo[nextNode].XMLAttributes,siteid,a
rguments.siteid,true);
return nextNode;
}
xmlSites = XMLNew();
xmlSites.xmlRoot = XMLElemNew(variables.xmlSites,sites);
justAdded =
addSite(xmlSites,xmlSites.XMLRoot.XMLChildren,Texaco,123456);
writeOutput(Just added number variables.justAdded to the
array!br);
justAdded =
addSite(xmlSites,xmlSites.XMLRoot.XMLChildren,Texaco,456789);
writeOutput(Just added number variables.justAdded to the
array!br);
/cfscript
~Simon
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-Original Message-
From: Aidan Whitehall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 27 January 2004 17:31
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] XML attribute
do you still have questions?
Well, since you ask, only a few new ones...:-)
It's working ok so far, but am obviously missing some of the finer
points. I'm working towards something like this:
sites
site ownerid=Texaco siteid=123456/
site ownerid=Texaco siteid=456789/
site...
/sites.
I'm adding site nodes to the sites node using arrayAppend() and then
setting its attribute values using structInsert(). With the
structInsert() bit, in order to get a reference on the element you just
inserted, it seems like you have to arse about using:
xmlDoc.xmlRoot[sites].xmlChildren[arrayLen(xmlDoc.xmlRoot[sites].xml
Children)].xmlAttributes
Is there any form of syntax where the arrayInsert() returns a reference
to the node inserted, so you can do something like (realise this dinnae
work):
x = arrayAppend(xmlDoc.xmlRoot[sites].xmlChildren, xmlElemNew(xmlDoc,
site));
structInsert(x.xmlAttributes, ownerid, Texaco);
structInsert(x.xmlAttributes, siteid, 123456);
Oh, and (Q2) when you do something like
arrayAppend(xmlDoc.xmlRoot.xmlChildren, xmlElemNew(xmlDoc, sites));
why is one of the arguments in xmlElemNew() the XML object, when it's
also contained within one of the other arguments in the arrayAppend()
function? I would have thought that xmlElemNew() would only have taken
one argument -- the name of the element you want created.
Really appreciate everyone's help so far, btw.
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RE: [ cf-dev ] Jobs....
I posted something about a week ago and also put it on ukcfug.org. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Adam Reynolds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 January 2004 13:21 To: cfdev Subject: [ cf-dev ] Jobs Anyone got any spare? Beginning to hunt now... -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [ cf-dev ] Ben Forta meeting this Wednesday!
Macromedia? Nah, silly idea. If only we knew somebody with some pull over there ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Lucas Sherwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 January 2004 08:37 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Ben Forta meeting this Wednesday! You know of someone who will give the user groups a free dedicated server?? :) -Original Message- From: Snake Hollywood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 January 2004 10:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Ben Forta meeting this Wednesday! Time to move to a better host :-) -Original Message- From: Lucas Sherwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 January 2004 22:41 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Ben Forta meeting this Wednesday! Whoops! Time to kick the isp :) L. -Original Message- From: Snake Hollywood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 January 2004 5:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Ben Forta meeting this Wednesday! Oops Server Error The server encountered an internal error and was unable to complete your request. Could not connect to JRun Server. -Original Message- From: Niklas Richardson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 January 2004 14:25 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ cf-dev ] Ben Forta meeting this Wednesday! ~~ The United Kingdom ColdFusion User Group Newsletter, 26 January 2004 ~~ == Next Event - Wednesday, 28 January 2004 == The Meeting With No Name... -- The Meeting With No Name... Flex is cool as hell (Ben's words not EDs). And CF developers can use Flex as the presentation layer for their apps. Come to the UKCFUG for the first ever user group presentation of Flex, and Flex powered by ColdFusion. When: Wednesday, 28 January 2004 Where: Convocation Suite City University Centenary Building Spencer Street London EC1V 0HB meeting details http://www.ukcfug.org/index.cfm?objectid=8ED00B94-50DA-4D01-87 248AE5CE7B3501 - |REGISTER NOW| - == Upcoming Events Schedule == DateTitle -- 28-Jan-04 The Meeting With No Name... more http://www.ukcfug.org/index.cfm?objectid=8ED00B94-50DA-4D01-87 248AE5CE7B3501 19-Feb-04 Tim O'Reilly Presents... more http://www.ukcfug.org/index.cfm?objectid=8ED1C0D5-50DA-4D01-87 FEB77EB879BD48 25-Mar-04 Software Architecture for ColdFusion more http://www.ukcfug.org/index.cfm?objectid=F49432D6-50DA-4D01-87 4F57375E298D7C more upcoming events http://www.ukcfug.org/index.cfm?objectid=4E5B4EE8-B11F-96C7-FC 8D12E566D98464 == User Group News == BEN'S COMING THIS WEDNESDAY! Don't forget that Ben Forta will be joining us this Wednesday to give us a sneak peek of Flex, Macromedia's upcoming Flash presentation server software. Numbers are limited so please make sure you register on the website. If you are unable to make it please un-register, so that other members can. There will also be refreshments at the meeting. We look forward to seeing you all there. more http://www.ukcfug.org/index.cfm?objectid=528AAE48-50DA-4D01-87 78501AAEB2BCDA BEN FORTA, TIM O'REILLY, NEW VENUE On the 28th January, we have a world first! For the first time ever since MAX, we are going to get a secret glimpse at Flex, Macromedia's upcoming Flash presentation server software. Ben Forta will be coming down and, we are told, there will be room for questions afterwards. The London MMUG and UKCFUG are proud that the first ever MMUG sneak peek of Flex will take place right here in London. Make sure you don't miss this. We also have an amazing meeting lined up for February. None other than Tim O'Reilly of O'Reilly Associates (the famous tech book publishers) will be over to talk to us about The Open Source Paradigm Shift. After the talk, he will answer questions as well as talk about Macromedia
RE: [ cf-dev ] Flex in scotland WAS:RE: [ cf-dev ] Ben Forta meeting this Wednesday!
two corrections: if Flex is the best thing since MX - I believe you mean MX 6.1 you can build flash with nothing but a text editor. AND server software ;) ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Douglas Humphris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 January 2004 10:45 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Flex in scotland WAS:RE: [ cf-dev ] Ben Forta meeting this Wednesday! I'm calm...honest! ..grrhh IMO Flex is the most exciting thing to come out of Macromedia since CFMX. To be able to build a Flash interface using nothing but a text editor is a great concept and I can't wait to see it in action. Cheers, Douglas -Original Message- From: Lucas Sherwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 January 2004 09:42 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ cf-dev ] Flex in scotland WAS:RE: [ cf-dev ] Ben Forta meeting this Wednesday! Calm down, we will get flex in Scotland sooner or later! -Original Message- From: Douglas Humphris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 January 2004 9:31 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Ben Forta meeting this Wednesday! Bah! Not fair... It was a good meeting though. D -Original Message- From: Lucas Sherwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 January 2004 16:31 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Ben Forta meeting this Wednesday! Umm I think you will find they are different topics... L. -Original Message- From: Douglas Humphris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 January 2004 3:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Ben Forta meeting this Wednesday! Come to the UKCFUG for the first ever user group presentation of Flex, I'll be hearing him tonight at the Scottish User Group in Edinburgh, which I believe is the first user group presentation ever so nah. :oP -Original Message- From: Niklas Richardson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 January 2004 14:25 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ cf-dev ] Ben Forta meeting this Wednesday! ~~ The United Kingdom ColdFusion User Group Newsletter, 26 January 2004 ~~ == Next Event - Wednesday, 28 January 2004 == The Meeting With No Name... -- The Meeting With No Name... Flex is cool as hell (Ben's words not EDs). And CF developers can use Flex as the presentation layer for their apps. Come to the UKCFUG for the first ever user group presentation of Flex, and Flex powered by ColdFusion. When: Wednesday, 28 January 2004 Where: Convocation Suite City University Centenary Building Spencer Street London EC1V 0HB meeting details http://www.ukcfug.org/index.cfm?objectid=8ED00B94-50DA-4D01-87248AE5CE7B 3501 - |REGISTER NOW| - == Upcoming Events Schedule == DateTitle -- 28-Jan-04 The Meeting With No Name... more http://www.ukcfug.org/index.cfm?objectid=8ED00B94-50DA-4D01-87248AE5CE7B 3501 19-Feb-04 Tim O'Reilly Presents... more http://www.ukcfug.org/index.cfm?objectid=8ED1C0D5-50DA-4D01-87FEB77EB879 BD48 25-Mar-04 Software Architecture for ColdFusion more http://www.ukcfug.org/index.cfm?objectid=F49432D6-50DA-4D01-874F57375E29 8D7C more upcoming events http://www.ukcfug.org/index.cfm?objectid=4E5B4EE8-B11F-96C7-FC8D12E566D9 8464 == User Group News == BEN'S COMING THIS WEDNESDAY! Don't forget that Ben Forta will be joining us this Wednesday to give us a sneak peek of Flex, Macromedia's upcoming Flash presentation server software. Numbers are limited so please make sure you register on the website. If you are unable to make it please un-register, so that other members can. There will also be refreshments at the meeting. We look forward to seeing you all there. more http://www.ukcfug.org/index.cfm?objectid=528AAE48-50DA-4D01-8778501AAEB2 BCDA BEN FORTA, TIM O'REILLY, NEW VENUE On the 28th January, we have a world first! For the first time ever since MAX, we are going to get a secret glimpse at Flex, Macromedia's upcoming Flash presentation server software. Ben Forta will be coming down
RE: [ cf-dev ] Flex in scotland WAS:RE: [ cf-dev ] Ben Forta meeting this Wednesday!
You're right - it is all relativve (I still consider MX the beta verrsion of MX 6.1 and MX 6.1 the real software). Hey - glad you like the DFA API.. I hope at some point to be able to build a second rev. that supports some of the hooks I put in there for datatype, length, and other validation. If you didn't see it yet, I have a little example app. on www.how2cf.com (in Apps) that uses nothing but CFC calls directly, rather than the tag, in order to allow you to admin a DFA API app (create, define, and populate data tables). ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Douglas Humphris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 January 2004 11:11 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Flex in scotland WAS:RE: [ cf-dev ] Ben Forta meeting this Wednesday! 1. No I mean MX. 2. Well maybe you can, but I can't. :o) No point in arguing on this - it's all relative. D PS Simon, I've been using your DFA a lot over the past two weeks. It's pretty cool...thanks. -Original Message- From: Simon Horwith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 January 2004 10:52 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Flex in scotland WAS:RE: [ cf-dev ] Ben Forta meeting this Wednesday! two corrections: if Flex is the best thing since MX - I believe you mean MX 6.1 you can build flash with nothing but a text editor. AND server software ;) ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Douglas Humphris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 January 2004 10:45 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Flex in scotland WAS:RE: [ cf-dev ] Ben Forta meeting this Wednesday! I'm calm...honest! ..grrhh IMO Flex is the most exciting thing to come out of Macromedia since CFMX. To be able to build a Flash interface using nothing but a text editor is a great concept and I can't wait to see it in action. Cheers, Douglas -Original Message- From: Lucas Sherwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 January 2004 09:42 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ cf-dev ] Flex in scotland WAS:RE: [ cf-dev ] Ben Forta meeting this Wednesday! Calm down, we will get flex in Scotland sooner or later! -Original Message- From: Douglas Humphris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 January 2004 9:31 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Ben Forta meeting this Wednesday! Bah! Not fair... It was a good meeting though. D -Original Message- From: Lucas Sherwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 January 2004 16:31 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Ben Forta meeting this Wednesday! Umm I think you will find they are different topics... L. -Original Message- From: Douglas Humphris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 January 2004 3:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Ben Forta meeting this Wednesday! Come to the UKCFUG for the first ever user group presentation of Flex, I'll be hearing him tonight at the Scottish User Group in Edinburgh, which I believe is the first user group presentation ever so nah. :oP -Original Message- From: Niklas Richardson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 January 2004 14:25 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ cf-dev ] Ben Forta meeting this Wednesday! ~~ The United Kingdom ColdFusion User Group Newsletter, 26 January 2004 ~~ == Next Event - Wednesday, 28 January 2004 == The Meeting With No Name... -- The Meeting With No Name... Flex is cool as hell (Ben's words not EDs). And CF developers can use Flex as the presentation layer for their apps. Come to the UKCFUG for the first ever user group presentation of Flex, and Flex powered by ColdFusion. When: Wednesday, 28 January 2004 Where: Convocation Suite City University Centenary Building Spencer Street London EC1V 0HB meeting details http://www.ukcfug.org/index.cfm?objectid=8ED00B94-50DA-4D01-87248AE5CE7B 3501 - |REGISTER NOW| - == Upcoming Events Schedule == DateTitle
RE: [ cf-dev ] XML attribute
cfscript
structInsert(xmlVariable.XMLRoot.XMLChildren[nodeToInsertInto].XMLAttributes
,attributeName,attributeValue,true);
/cfscript
that's what the syntax looks like to add an attribute to a specific node off
the XML Root. To insert into deeper nested nodes, replace
XMLRoot.XMLChildren[nodeToInsertInto] with
XMLRoot.XMLChildren[nodeToBranchOffof].XMLChildren[nodeToBranchOffof]{.XMLC
hildren[nodeToBranchOffof] to the whatever degree of depth}
~Simon
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-Original Message-
From: Aidan Whitehall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 27 January 2004 12:29
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ cf-dev ] XML attribute
OK, duh... how do you add an attribute to a CF XML object? Thanks.
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RE: [ cf-dev ] XML attribute
do you still have questions? ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Aidan Whitehall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 January 2004 13:17 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] XML attribute http://livedocs.macromedia.com/coldfusion/6/Developing_ColdFusion_MX_App lica tions_with_CFML/XML7.htm Ashamed to admit I glanced through that page at one point. Cheers. -- Aidan Whitehall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Macromedia ColdFusion Developer Fairbanks Environmental Ltd +44 (0)1695 51775 Queen's Awards Winner 2003 http://www.fairbanks.co.uk/go/awards Fairbanks uses anti-spam filtering. If you sent an e-mail and expected to receive a response but didn't, please call -- it may be that your e-mail didn't make it to the intended mailbox. This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star Internet. The service is powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit: http://www.star.net.uk -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [ cf-dev ] dramatic problem with query of query
I recommend wrapping cfqueryparam around values... especially date values ;) ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: ing. fusto [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 January 2004 16:13 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] dramatic problem with query of query hello, the problem arise in query with conditions on date fields: when upgrade to cf 6.1 mx, a Return Timestamps as String is setted by default, in contrast with mx 6.0; once upgraded, you have to dselect this option in cf administrator for each datasource. bye salvatore - Original Message - From: Kola Oyedeji [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 2:28 PM Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] dramatic problem with query of query I'm coming in late here. I've been hitting this recently as well. I found an entry in the livedocs that this has been noted by MM and should be fixed in a future release. How I got around it was to tweek my queries so that they had additional columns with the same data but did a cast to a specific data type. E.g. Select question_no, Char(question_no) as question_no_char Not ideal I know but works great as a quick fix. Kola -Original Message- From: Alex Skinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 January 2004 00:28 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] dramatic problem with query of query Are you building the query being queried with QueryNew and QuerySetCell if so, Check the Macromedia forums re a bug, due to the fact that ColdFusion tries to quess the type. Lots of rambling excuses but none the less a bug. This became a problem I think in 6.0, you can have some real fun trying to get around this, no actual fix as far as I can see maybe some way in Java ? Dunno. On one query I had with small data set I simply looped over query object and manually extracted data as was only way to get it working, check the forum im sure it's the same issue. Alex -Original Message- From: ing. fusto [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 January 2004 08:27 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] dramatic problem with query of query thanks a lot to all for replies, but the problem is not a date/time format: the query of query i've posted was ok in cf mx 6.0, but in cf mx 6.1 returns the error: Query of Query runtime error unsupporte type comparison this is a sintax error, such as i'd try to compare two different type values: if so, the two values are of differente type either in mx 6.0 or mx 6.1; if this was due to a my mistake, it was the same on cf mx 6.0 too, and i would be very happy to correct it. best regards salvatore - Original Message - From: EWS [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 9:09 AM Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] dramatic problem with query of query Date format has long been a problem with all scripting language. In my experience and research the only sure fire way to format dates and have any database understand it without any risk of ambiguity (which is what causes most DB's to report errors and die) is the following format dd-mmm- for example 19-Jan-2004 so now if your DB stores american format dates it will store 01/19/04 whereas normal (sorry, UK) dates are stored 19/01/2004. No ambiguity at all. It works in every instance that I have ever used it and negates the needs to set up any 'locale' variables. Regards Ellis C Wood Ellwood Web Solutions On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 00:36:26 +, Dave Phipps [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try changing the DateFormat function to have a mask of '-mm-dd'. It could be the db driver for MX 6.1 was upgraded and requires the db date and your supplied date to match. Hope this helps. Cheers Dave On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 12:11:46 +0100 ing. fusto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, i have a problem: the following query of query cfquery name=assenti dbtype=query SELECT * FROM assenze_mensili WHERE assenze_mensili.data=cfqueryparam cfsqltype=CF_SQL_DATE value=#DateFormat(parsedateTime(ret_data),'dd/mm/')# /cfquery until last december, when my provider was using cfmx 6.0, was ok; the he upgraded to cf mx 6.1 and now all pages containing a query of query fail, reporting an error of unsupported type comparison. any idea. best regards salvatore -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail
RE: [ cf-dev ] Simple Auction
I built one AGES ago. Any specific questions? ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Gordon Burns [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 January 2004 19:12 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ cf-dev ] Simple Auction Any one built an auction application? If so could they share their experiences or if they know of any sites that will help in the basics design principles. Existing client wants to try this for old inventory. Any hints pointers wouled be welcome. Gordon -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [ cf-dev ] CFC scoping
if you have var = x; in the function (or an argument called x) then it will return THAT x, otherwise it will default to the variables scope. Similar to a normal cfm file... and I recommend always prefixing ALL your variables in CFCs and CFMs. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Aidan Whitehall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 21 January 2004 11:25 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ cf-dev ] CFC scoping OK, getting stung a little by the scoping in CFCs yesterday, if you have the following cfc variables.x = 1; variables.y = 2; cffunction f cfreturn x /cffunction /cfc should you return 'variables.x' or is 'x' enough? Are there any instances where returning 'x' can return something other than 'variables.x', for example if you have var x = 0 at the start of function f? Thanks -- Aidan Whitehall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Macromedia ColdFusion Developer Fairbanks Environmental Ltd +44 (0)1695 51775 Queen's Awards Winner 2003 http://www.fairbanks.co.uk/go/awards Fairbanks uses anti-spam filtering. If you sent an e-mail and expected to receive a response but didn't, please call -- it may be that your e-mail didn't make it to the intended mailbox. This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star Internet. The service is powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit: http://www.star.net.uk -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [ cf-dev ] PDF's
You can use MS Office COM interfaces, etc. - some tutorials should be at www.cfcomet.com. You can also generate PDF using COM (activepdf, distiller, etc.) or Java (there are many libraries and some CFX tags). You could also use IE styles to generate some decent printer version pages (IE supports pagination and many other nice print-friendly things with CSS) and you could also look at using Flash for this since Flash is very lightweight, cheaper than most PDF server software if you don't already own a copy, can generate VERY printer-friendly high res. output, and will communicate with CF to do some neat stuff. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 21 January 2004 09:51 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ cf-dev ] PDF's Me again. Can anyone help me with this one please I am reading data from an excel spreadsheet and displaying it nicely on the screen. The data is school budget info (very boring stuff) The client has decided that the user will want to print the budget off and that the output from IE is Cr*p Someone has told this person that its possible to print out in PDF format. I have never done this so could do with a tutorial/info on how to do it. I know there was a thread here sometime ago about doing it. Any help would be appreciated. Regards - Paul * The information contained within this e-mail (and any attachment) sent by Birmingham City Council is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended only for the named recipient or entity to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient please accept our apologies and notify the sender immediately, or telephone +(44) 121 303 . Unauthorised access, use, disclosure, storage or copying is not permitted and may be unlawful. Any e-mail including its content may be monitored and used by Birmingham City Council for reasons of security and for monitoring internal compliance with the office policy on staff use. E-mail blocking software may also be used. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the originator and do not necessarily represent those of Birmingham City Council. We cannot guarantee that this message or any attachment is virus free or has not been intercepted and amended. * -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [ cf-dev ] Nested IIf functions
technically, using one approach or another does matter... but only if that specific functionality (in this case, if logic) is used A LOT by all pages being requested at any moment. One of my most recent articles in CFDJ showed an example of the difference between using java string concatenation and using traditional CFML string concatenation in a cfscript block. Up to 100 iterations and you still barely saw a performance difference. When I bumped it up higher (I believe it was to 10,000 iterations), the java version outperformed the CF version DRASTICALLY... it took about 1/100 the amount of time to run. If you have 1000 visitors simultaneously requesting pages on your site and each page does 10 string concatenations, you'll see the same effect on the server in terms of processor and memory resource usage. If your site or your secific application isn't trafficked too heavilly and you aren't using one specific function all over the place, then it's not going to matter... but when something does need to scale to accomodate heavy traffic periods then 10 ms. differences do begin to amount to more serious performance hits. Just something I wanted to point out. If anyone wants to try running the code I'm talking about, I'll post it. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Steve Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 21 January 2004 16:47 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Nested IIf functions I agree. Life's too short to worry about these little things. You can tweak and tweak to your hearts content, but at the end of the day, slapping in an extra 512meg brick of RAM or u/g ing the CPU will be quicker and cheaper than fannying around in your code for that extra bit of power. I mean, how far do you take it? You could rewrite portions of code as pure Java CFX and so on. -Original Message- From: Snake Hollywood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 21 January 2004 16:28 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Nested IIf functions If the page takes 100ms without IIF and 100ms with IIF, it doesn't matter how many page requests u get, they still take the same time to render. 100 vistors x 100ms still equals the same. The total combined may add a few ms extra as all the fractions of a ms add up, but that's like counting grains of sand. Russ Michaels Macromedia/Allaire Certified ColdFusion Developer CFMX Hosting Phone: 0845 456 3487 Tech Support: 0906 9607800 FAX: 0709 2212 636 WEB: cfmxhosting.co.uk Please use the support helpdesk on our web site to submit support tickets. Join our ColdFusion Developer discussion lists. Send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 21 January 2004 16:18 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Nested IIf functions what if you had say 100 sites, each with 100 pages. in each of those pages you use IIF where you could have used something faster. each site gets thousands of hits a day. could that not have a cumulative effect on cf server's performance? the whole point of writing code that is marginally faster in performance than something else, isn't because it's super-duper faster on one run-through, or that you're only meant to use it in nested loops. it's to improve overall performance in the long run, isn't it? Duncan Cumming IT Manager http://www.alienationdesign.co.uk mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: 0141 575 9700 Fax: 0141 575 9600 Creative solutions in a technical world -- Get your domain names online from: http://www.alienationdomains.co.uk Reseller options available! -- -- Snake Hollywood To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]cc: kepit.net Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Nested IIf functions 21/01/2004 16:14
RE: [ cf-dev ] Nested IIf functions
correction... I just tried the code and it's taking about 1/30 the amount of time to use java... which is still VERY significant. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Simon Horwith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 21 January 2004 17:15 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Nested IIf functions technically, using one approach or another does matter... but only if that specific functionality (in this case, if logic) is used A LOT by all pages being requested at any moment. One of my most recent articles in CFDJ showed an example of the difference between using java string concatenation and using traditional CFML string concatenation in a cfscript block. Up to 100 iterations and you still barely saw a performance difference. When I bumped it up higher (I believe it was to 10,000 iterations), the java version outperformed the CF version DRASTICALLY... it took about 1/100 the amount of time to run. If you have 1000 visitors simultaneously requesting pages on your site and each page does 10 string concatenations, you'll see the same effect on the server in terms of processor and memory resource usage. If your site or your secific application isn't trafficked too heavilly and you aren't using one specific function all over the place, then it's not going to matter... but when something does need to scale to accomodate heavy traffic periods then 10 ms. differences do begin to amount to more serious performance hits. Just something I wanted to point out. If anyone wants to try running the code I'm talking about, I'll post it. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Steve Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 21 January 2004 16:47 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Nested IIf functions I agree. Life's too short to worry about these little things. You can tweak and tweak to your hearts content, but at the end of the day, slapping in an extra 512meg brick of RAM or u/g ing the CPU will be quicker and cheaper than fannying around in your code for that extra bit of power. I mean, how far do you take it? You could rewrite portions of code as pure Java CFX and so on. -Original Message- From: Snake Hollywood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 21 January 2004 16:28 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Nested IIf functions If the page takes 100ms without IIF and 100ms with IIF, it doesn't matter how many page requests u get, they still take the same time to render. 100 vistors x 100ms still equals the same. The total combined may add a few ms extra as all the fractions of a ms add up, but that's like counting grains of sand. Russ Michaels Macromedia/Allaire Certified ColdFusion Developer CFMX Hosting Phone: 0845 456 3487 Tech Support: 0906 9607800 FAX: 0709 2212 636 WEB: cfmxhosting.co.uk Please use the support helpdesk on our web site to submit support tickets. Join our ColdFusion Developer discussion lists. Send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 21 January 2004 16:18 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Nested IIf functions what if you had say 100 sites, each with 100 pages. in each of those pages you use IIF where you could have used something faster. each site gets thousands of hits a day. could that not have a cumulative effect on cf server's performance? the whole point of writing code that is marginally faster in performance than something else, isn't because it's super-duper faster on one run-through, or that you're only meant to use it in nested loops. it's to improve overall performance in the long run, isn't it? Duncan Cumming IT Manager http://www.alienationdesign.co.uk mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: 0141 575 9700 Fax: 0141 575 9600 Creative solutions in a technical world -- Get your domain names online from: http://www.alienationdomains.co.uk Reseller options available! -- -- Snake Hollywood To: [EMAIL
RE: [ cf-dev ] cfloop, query objects and cfcs
they (loops) work the same way in a CFC, but as you mentioned, scopes are different. If you post the method, it'll help;) ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Aidan Whitehall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 January 2004 17:22 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ cf-dev ] cfloop, query objects and cfcs Does anyone know if there are any issues with looping through query objects inside cfc methods, a la: cfloop query=qRecords cfoutput#qRecords.someCol#/cfoutput /cfloop I've copied a load of code from a tag into a cfc, and am finding that in order to get the value output to the page, I'm having to use #someCol# instead of #qRecords.someCol# But then again, maybe it's a scoping issue hmm. -- Aidan Whitehall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Macromedia ColdFusion Developer Fairbanks Environmental Ltd +44 (0)1695 51775 Queen's Awards Winner 2003 http://www.fairbanks.co.uk/go/awards Fairbanks uses anti-spam filtering. If you sent an e-mail and expected to receive a response but didn't, please call -- it may be that your e-mail didn't make it to the intended mailbox. This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star Internet. The service is powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit: http://www.star.net.uk -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [ cf-dev ] cfloop, query objects and cfcs
doh! ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Aidan Whitehall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 January 2004 17:39 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] cfloop, query objects and cfcs No matter, got it sorted. The method was recursively calling itself, and as I hadn't var scoped the queries, the queries in each subsequent iteration were getting overwritten. -- Aidan Whitehall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Macromedia ColdFusion Developer Fairbanks Environmental Ltd +44 (0)1695 51775 Queen's Awards Winner 2003 http://www.fairbanks.co.uk/go/awards Fairbanks uses anti-spam filtering. If you sent an e-mail and expected to receive a response but didn't, please call -- it may be that your e-mail didn't make it to the intended mailbox. This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star Internet. The service is powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit: http://www.star.net.uk -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[ cf-dev ] looking for a CF Developer
All, I was asked by one of the companies I work for to help find a full-time employee (CF Developer). The desired skill set is comfort with HTML, CSS, JavaScript, CFML (CFMX 6.1), and Oracle. You don't have to be much of a wiz with JS or HTML (they have a design team) or with Oracle (there're several Oracle DBAs onsite) but the stronger your skillset the better. CFML is the primary job role so strength there is best. If you have any experience with CMS software, frameworks, and/or Java it is also good but not required. The position they are looking to fill is for a full-time (permanent) employee. I'm not really involved in the business decisions here, so I don't know about salary, etc. - you'll have to talk with the person interviewing about those details. I can tell you that the company is based in Teddington (South West London) a two minute walk from a SouthWest Train station for those of you who don't drive. If any of you are interested, send me your CV and I'll forward it to the PM who's doing the hiring. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [ cf-dev ] Shopping Cart
I wrote one that is compatible with CF 4.5 and above and is free - http://www.how2cf.com/ click on code. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Douglas Humphris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 January 2004 11:48 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ cf-dev ] Shopping Cart What free generic shopping carts compatible with CFMX server would you recommend? A client wants a cheap shopping cart and I'm looking for a few alternatives. Thanks, Douglas -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [ cf-dev ] looking for a CF Developer
BTW - yes, I did also post the opening on the ukcfug web site ;) ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Simon Horwith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 January 2004 11:35 To: UK DevList (E-mail) Subject: [ cf-dev ] looking for a CF Developer All, I was asked by one of the companies I work for to help find a full-time employee (CF Developer). The desired skill set is comfort with HTML, CSS, JavaScript, CFML (CFMX 6.1), and Oracle. You don't have to be much of a wiz with JS or HTML (they have a design team) or with Oracle (there're several Oracle DBAs onsite) but the stronger your skillset the better. CFML is the primary job role so strength there is best. If you have any experience with CMS software, frameworks, and/or Java it is also good but not required. The position they are looking to fill is for a full-time (permanent) employee. I'm not really involved in the business decisions here, so I don't know about salary, etc. - you'll have to talk with the person interviewing about those details. I can tell you that the company is based in Teddington (South West London) a two minute walk from a SouthWest Train station for those of you who don't drive. If any of you are interested, send me your CV and I'll forward it to the PM who's doing the hiring. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [ cf-dev ] Accessing .NET webservices session management
It should be no different to doing this with CFML web services or to building a RIA that accesses persistent information on the server... both Flash Remoting and Web Services are stateless environments by nature. By that I mean that the only way to persist individual session data on the server and access it via WS or Flash within the context of the current session is to receive a session token when the log-in code (or any other initial request that assigns a session token) is run and to pass this token on subsequent requests. enerally, a facade pattern is used - so there woud be one set of services that expect the session token and are an interface to the other functionality. This facade service would handle persistance and use the session token to identify the client. If you aren't receiving a session token when logging-in to the .NET application, there are only two things you can do to persist session information for subsequent requests. One is to change the .NET authentication so that a token is sent back, and then to have methods/services that expect this token and use it (as I outlined above). The other way to do this would be to persist all data on yor client (the CF Server in this case) and change the .NET services so that every serrvice accepts an argument that allows it to recreate all of the session information before performing it's business logic. For example, a shopping cart application would have all the methods you'd expect for adding an item to the cart, checking-out, etc. and every one of these methods would accept a serialized cart (an XML representation of the cart) as an argument. These methods would parse the XML and create a cart object local to the method, then do what they do, and return a new serialized cart to the client. This second approach requires less persistent memory on the server but is more coding and much more processor intensive for both the server and the client, and is not recommended. One thing I'd check is to see whether or not you are actually receiving the token, but in the form of a cookie rather than a Web Service return value? If this is the caase, it still remains to be seen whether or not the rest of the functionality is properly equipped to handle the passing of this token in order to maintain state. Does that help at all? ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Stephen Moretti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 January 2004 12:28 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ cf-dev ] Accessing .NET webservices session management Got a .NET web service that I'm accessing using CF and I've got an issue with the session management. The web service is using .NETs session management, so I call a login method on the service, get a success on the login, but that's all I get back. No session id or anything like that. I then call another method which requires me to be logged in. At this point I get an error telling me that the I need to be logged in. I'm calling the methods in a cfscript block using cfobject. I thought that using cfobject to access web services meant that sessions are maintained, rather than connecting to a w/s once for each cfinvoke. Has anyone any experience of calling .NET services and maintaining session? Any suggestions? TIA Stephen -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [ cf-dev ] Accessing .NET webservices session management
.NET uses cookies by default... here's a little thread I found (thank you, Google) that mentions the same things I said about persistence with SOAP in .NET: http://news.php.net/article.php?group=php.soaparticle=1212 ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Stephen Moretti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 January 2004 13:55 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] Accessing .NET webservices session management Yup... Mostly... Any idea what form the .NET session token takes and how to access it?? Stephen Simon Horwith wrote: It should be no different to doing this with CFML web services or to building a RIA that accesses persistent information on the server... both Flash Remoting and Web Services are stateless environments by nature. By that I mean that the only way to persist individual session data on the server and access it via WS or Flash within the context of the current session is to receive a session token when the log-in code (or any other initial request that assigns a session token) is run and to pass this token on subsequent requests. enerally, a facade pattern is used - so there woud be one set of services that expect the session token and are an interface to the other functionality. This facade service would handle persistance and use the session token to identify the client. If you aren't receiving a session token when logging-in to the .NET application, there are only two things you can do to persist session information for subsequent requests. One is to change the .NET authentication so that a token is sent back, and then to have methods/services that expect this token and use it (as I outlined above). The other way to do this would be to persist all data on yor client (the CF Server in this case) and change the .NET services so that every serrvice accepts an argument that allows it to recreate all of the session information before performing it's business logic. For example, a shopping cart application would have all the methods you'd expect for adding an item to the cart, checking-out, etc. and every one of these methods would accept a serialized cart (an XML representation of the cart) as an argument. These methods would parse the XML and create a cart object local to the method, then do what they do, and return a new serialized cart to the client. This second approach requires less persistent memory on the server but is more coding and much more processor intensive for both the server and the client, and is not recommended. One thing I'd check is to see whether or not you are actually receiving the token, but in the form of a cookie rather than a Web Service return value? If this is the caase, it still remains to be seen whether or not the rest of the functionality is properly equipped to handle the passing of this token in order to maintain state. Does that help at all? ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Stephen Moretti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 January 2004 12:28 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ cf-dev ] Accessing .NET webservices session management Got a .NET web service that I'm accessing using CF and I've got an issue with the session management. The web service is using .NETs session management, so I call a login method on the service, get a success on the login, but that's all I get back. No session id or anything like that. I then call another method which requires me to be logged in. At this point I get an error telling me that the I need to be logged in. I'm calling the methods in a cfscript block using cfobject. I thought that using cfobject to access web services meant that sessions are maintained, rather than connecting to a w/s once for each cfinvoke. Has anyone any experience of calling .NET services and maintaining session? Any suggestions? TIA Stephen -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [ cf-dev ] Job Opening (London)
WAI is the Web Accessibility Initiative. If you take a look at recent (and the current issue I believe) issues of CFDJ (http://www.sys-con.com/coldfusion/) there was a recent series of articles that will give you a very good idea what it is and how to meet it's requirements, etc. If the job description says anything about WAI, I'd be sure to know a bit about t before going to any interviews ;) ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Rich Wild [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 January 2004 13:09 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Job Opening (London) er.. yes. (whats WAI mean?) -Original Message- From: Adrian Lynch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 January 2004 13:09 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Job Opening (London) Yeah, but is he WAI compliant? -Original Message- From: Peter Harrison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 January 2004 13:04 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Job Opening (London) He's da McDonalds of Potatochop! - Peter -Original Message- From: Adrian Lynch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 January 2004 12:59 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Job Opening (London) Why, are you a dab hand at Photoshop? :O) -Original Message- From: Rich Wild [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 January 2004 08:43 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Job Opening (London) hmmm. good timing. -Original Message- From: Adrian Lynch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 January 2004 17:58 To: Cfug Dev List (E-mail) Subject: [ cf-dev ] Job Opening (London) http://www.thoughtbubble.com/vacancies/ -- Adrian Lynch Web Application Developer Thoughtbubble Ltd Full Service Agency -- http://www.thoughtbubble.com Tel: +44 (0) 20 7387 8890 (ex. 23) Fax: +44 (0) 20 7383 2220 -- The information in this email and in any attachments is confidential and intended solely for the attention and use of the named addressee(s). Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Thoughtbubble. This information may be subject to legal, professional or other privilege and further distribution of it is strictly prohibited without our authority. If you are not the intended recipient, you are not authorised to disclose, copy, distribute, or retain this message. Please notify us on +44 (0)207 387 8890. -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev% 40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [ cf-dev ] Job Opening (London)
like I said - definitely check out those articles. They outline the answers to the question of who this effects very well. It also addesses how to make code WAI compliant... which does not really take as long as you'd think... not if you account for it in the begining and have some coding standards in place. Anyone who tells you it takes a lot more man-hour time to develop something that is WAI compliant is just wrong. What does take a little bit longer is Q/A... obviously if you want to comply with something (WAI or ANY OTHER STANDARD OUT THERE) it is going to mean testing to make sure you comply. The actual coding bit doesn't have to take much (or any) longer. There are also, like I said, a bunch of standard practices you can use that will tend to result in compliant code. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: EWS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 January 2004 13:54 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] Job Opening (London) Guys, Just wading through the WAI for valid information regarding my former employers clients that I wnat to poach (sorry, new clients that have nothing to do with my former employer but want accessibility). What is the law regarding commercial / eCommerce sites as it stands now. I am confused over legality and whether it is discrimination yet if an ecommerce site is not accessible. the act seems to say that anybody providing a service to the public. does this mean eCommerce sites? On Wed, 7 Jan 2004 13:26:51 -, Paul Fennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.w3.org/WAI/ :) -Original Message- From: Rich Wild [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 January 2004 13:20 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Job Opening (London) is it any coincidence that WAI sounds like why? -Original Message- From: Adrian Lynch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 January 2004 13:17 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Job Opening (London) I da know, read the job description, I work here already :OP -Original Message- From: Rich Wild [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 January 2004 13:09 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Job Opening (London) er.. yes. (whats WAI mean?) -Original Message- From: Adrian Lynch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 January 2004 13:09 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Job Opening (London) Yeah, but is he WAI compliant? -Original Message- From: Peter Harrison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 January 2004 13:04 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Job Opening (London) He's da McDonalds of Potatochop! - Peter -Original Message- From: Adrian Lynch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 January 2004 12:59 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Job Opening (London) Why, are you a dab hand at Photoshop? :O) -Original Message- From: Rich Wild [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 January 2004 08:43 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Job Opening (London) hmmm. good timing. -Original Message- From: Adrian Lynch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 January 2004 17:58 To: Cfug Dev List (E-mail) Subject: [ cf-dev ] Job Opening (London) http://www.thoughtbubble.com/vacancies/ -- Adrian Lynch Web Application Developer Thoughtbubble Ltd Full Service Agency -- http://www.thoughtbubble.com Tel: +44 (0) 20 7387 8890 (ex. 23) Fax: +44 (0) 20 7383 2220 -- The information in this email and in any attachments is confidential and intended solely for the attention and use of the named addressee(s). Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Thoughtbubble. This information may be subject to legal, professional or other privilege and further distribution of it is strictly prohibited without our authority. If you are not the intended recipient, you are not authorised to disclose, copy, distribute, or retain this message. Please notify us on +44 (0)207 387 8890. -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev% 40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help
RE: [ cf-dev ] Job Opening (London)
definitely. I just wanted to clarify that if a customerr asks for an estimate and they are concerned about WAI compliance, it should not drive your estimate up very much. Also, if you have an understanding of what it takes to make a site WAI compliant, being able to tell a potential client that your estimate/proposal is for a WAI compliant site, might mean the difference between their choosing your services over the competition! ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Peter Harrison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 January 2004 14:33 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Job Opening (London) It really boils down to the customer's choice. - Peter -Original Message- From: Simon Horwith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 January 2004 14:04 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Job Opening (London) like I said - definitely check out those articles. They outline the answers to the question of who this effects very well. It also addesses how to make code WAI compliant... which does not really take as long as you'd think... not if you account for it in the begining and have some coding standards in place. Anyone who tells you it takes a lot more man-hour time to develop something that is WAI compliant is just wrong. What does take a little bit longer is Q/A... obviously if you want to comply with something (WAI or ANY OTHER STANDARD OUT THERE) it is going to mean testing to make sure you comply. The actual coding bit doesn't have to take much (or any) longer. There are also, like I said, a bunch of standard practices you can use that will tend to result in compliant code. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: EWS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 January 2004 13:54 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] Job Opening (London) Guys, Just wading through the WAI for valid information regarding my former employers clients that I wnat to poach (sorry, new clients that have nothing to do with my former employer but want accessibility). What is the law regarding commercial / eCommerce sites as it stands now. I am confused over legality and whether it is discrimination yet if an ecommerce site is not accessible. the act seems to say that anybody providing a service to the public. does this mean eCommerce sites? On Wed, 7 Jan 2004 13:26:51 -, Paul Fennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.w3.org/WAI/ :) -Original Message- From: Rich Wild [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 January 2004 13:20 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Job Opening (London) is it any coincidence that WAI sounds like why? -Original Message- From: Adrian Lynch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 January 2004 13:17 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Job Opening (London) I da know, read the job description, I work here already :OP -Original Message- From: Rich Wild [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 January 2004 13:09 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Job Opening (London) er.. yes. (whats WAI mean?) -Original Message- From: Adrian Lynch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 January 2004 13:09 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Job Opening (London) Yeah, but is he WAI compliant? -Original Message- From: Peter Harrison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 January 2004 13:04 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Job Opening (London) He's da McDonalds of Potatochop! - Peter -Original Message- From: Adrian Lynch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 January 2004 12:59 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Job Opening (London) Why, are you a dab hand at Photoshop? :O) -Original Message- From: Rich Wild [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 January 2004 08:43 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Job Opening (London) hmmm. good timing. -Original Message- From: Adrian Lynch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 January 2004 17:58 To: Cfug Dev List (E-mail) Subject: [ cf-dev ] Job Opening (London) http://www.thoughtbubble.com/vacancies/ -- Adrian Lynch Web Application Developer Thoughtbubble Ltd Full Service Agency -- http://www.thoughtbubble.com Tel: +44 (0) 20 7387 8890 (ex. 23) Fax: +44 (0) 20 7383 2220
RE: [ cf-dev ] Job Opening (London)
yes, Q/A time is longer, but only for the compliancy testing, which may be optional. You could develop a site, state that you will meet WAI guidlines, but leave off the compliance testing and tell a client that it is their responsibility to test this (if they don't want to include it in the estimate). The bottom line is that telling a customer that your estimate is for development of a site or application and that at your company there are enforced coding standards which tend to meet WAI requirements in most scenarios, that may be enough. Remmber, customers like buzzwords and low costs... you can safely use the buzzword and not drive-up the cost, which may be the difference between you getting or losing a contract. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Rich Wild [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 January 2004 14:43 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Job Opening (London) hmm, but you said it takes extra time testing it, which is certainly the case. How can that not ramp up an estimate? Unless very much is a relative term. -Original Message- From: Simon Horwith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 January 2004 14:37 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Job Opening (London) definitely. I just wanted to clarify that if a customerr asks for an estimate and they are concerned about WAI compliance, it should not drive your estimate up very much. Also, if you have an understanding of what it takes to make a site WAI compliant, being able to tell a potential client that your estimate/proposal is for a WAI compliant site, might mean the difference between their choosing your services over the competition! ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Peter Harrison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 January 2004 14:33 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Job Opening (London) It really boils down to the customer's choice. - Peter -Original Message- From: Simon Horwith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 January 2004 14:04 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Job Opening (London) like I said - definitely check out those articles. They outline the answers to the question of who this effects very well. It also addesses how to make code WAI compliant... which does not really take as long as you'd think... not if you account for it in the begining and have some coding standards in place. Anyone who tells you it takes a lot more man-hour time to develop something that is WAI compliant is just wrong. What does take a little bit longer is Q/A... obviously if you want to comply with something (WAI or ANY OTHER STANDARD OUT THERE) it is going to mean testing to make sure you comply. The actual coding bit doesn't have to take much (or any) longer. There are also, like I said, a bunch of standard practices you can use that will tend to result in compliant code. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: EWS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 January 2004 13:54 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] Job Opening (London) Guys, Just wading through the WAI for valid information regarding my former employers clients that I wnat to poach (sorry, new clients that have nothing to do with my former employer but want accessibility). What is the law regarding commercial / eCommerce sites as it stands now. I am confused over legality and whether it is discrimination yet if an ecommerce site is not accessible. the act seems to say that anybody providing a service to the public. does this mean eCommerce sites? On Wed, 7 Jan 2004 13:26:51 -, Paul Fennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.w3.org/WAI/ :) -Original Message- From: Rich Wild [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 January 2004 13:20 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Job Opening (London) is it any coincidence that WAI sounds like why? -Original Message- From: Adrian Lynch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 January 2004 13:17 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Job Opening (London) I da know, read the job description, I work here already :OP -Original Message- From: Rich Wild [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 January 2004 13:09 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Job
RE: [ cf-dev ] OT: Quote
doh! Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Adrian Lynch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 January 2004 17:09 To: Cfug Dev List (E-mail) Subject: [ cf-dev ] OT: Quote Taken from a job posting on ukcfug.org ...ASP experience is of no real value. Not my words :O) -- Adrian Lynch Web Application Developer Thoughtbubble Ltd Full Service Agency -- http://www.thoughtbubble.com Tel: +44 (0) 20 7387 8890 (ex. 23) Fax: +44 (0) 20 7383 2220 -- The information in this email and in any attachments is confidential and intended solely for the attention and use of the named addressee(s). Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Thoughtbubble. This information may be subject to legal, professional or other privilege and further distribution of it is strictly prohibited without our authority. If you are not the intended recipient, you are not authorised to disclose, copy, distribute, or retain this message. Please notify us on +44 (0)207 387 8890. -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [ cf-dev ] NT/Windows Permissions
Richard, I have SERIOUSLY EXTENSIVE experience with CommonSpot - what CS element(s) are you using to create the link? Also, which version of CS are you using? The problem is something in the way you're using the product, not in the product itself (CommonSpot actually has one of the best, most intelligent, caching frameworks I've ever seen). ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Lovelock, Richard J [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 December 2003 11:26 To: 'cflist' Subject: [ cf-dev ] NT/Windows Permissions we are using a CF based CMS (Commonspot) which is creating cached copies of pages within subfolders called 'cache' of each subsite. when hitting a link to a page with a url variable appended on the url - the page holding the link is cached so the link is cached and does not always provide the correct url variable on the link url (hope that makes sense) i have located the cache file that is being created in the folder hierarchy and what I want to know is if anyone knows any way within NT/Windows/Folder permissions that can deny a file with a certain name being created or even delete it as soon as it is created? as a last resort i can schedule an NT/CF job to go and delete this file at certain intervals but this really is a last resort. any ideas? Merry Christmas (or am I the only one still at work on Chrimbo eve?) ___?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office / * Regards, Richard Lovelock, Senior Application Analyst. Westminster City Council - Web Support Cap Gemini Ernst Young Southbank 95 Wandsworth Road London SW8 2HG ( 0870 906 7482 ___ === This message contains information that may be privileged or confidential and is the property of the Cap Gemini Ernst Young Group. It is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are not authorised to read, print, retain, copy, disseminate, distribute, or use this message or any part thereof. If you receive this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete all copies of this message. === -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [ cf-dev ] NT/Windows Permissions
I have never found their out of the box render for print more than clunky to implement - I have found that building the link manually with a custom renderer or in the base template itself is much easier. Is there any reason why you can't do this? ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Lovelock, Richard J [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 December 2003 12:03 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Cc: WCC, AMSupport Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] NT/Windows Permissions Simon Thanks for the reply - I have looked through the caching sections of the Commonspot Admin guide but can't find anything to help me. We are using CS 3.0 SP1 soon to be 3.2 It is a little long winded but as you may know CS ships with a 'View Printer Friendly Version' link functionality which when clicked gives a cleaner version of the current page without nav, headers etc. It achieves this by taking the current URL and appending ?renderforprint=1 on to the end and then I think the base-page-template.cfm checks for this variable and does not render all the nav, header etc if it finds it. This piece of code had a bug (from Commonspot) in that it could not re-render pages with url variables in the URL as it drops the original URL variable and adds renderforprint=1 to the end - resulting in some nice red CF error code complaining about the original URL variable being missing. So.I amended the code for the 'View Printer Friendly Page' to inspect the current URL for URL variables and append renderforprint on the end: a href=cfif Len(CGI.Query_String)#cgi.script_name#?#cgi.query_string#renderforprint=1 cfelse#cgi.script_name#?renderforprint=1/cfif class=bottomnav [View Printer Friendly Version..] /a All well and good so far - until the following problem was identified. If you have a look at http://www1.westminster.gov.uk/yourcouncil/viewcouncillor.cfm?cID=9284 then hover over the 'View Printer Friendly Version' link at the bottom. You will see that the renderforprint=1 variable is being appended but the cID (Councillor ID) is different to the cID in the URL, so if you click the link you get a different councillor displayed. This is because Commonspot can't seem to recognise that viewcouncillor.cfm?cID=9284 is a different page to viewcouncillor.cfm?cID=9317 - so what it is doing is taking the pageid of viewcouncillor.cfm and taking the cached version of the page from ../yourcouncil/cache but this cached version has the 'View Printer Friendly' link cached with a different councillor ID. I have found the page id from the stub file and then found the relative cache file in the cache directory - and if I delete this and refresh the councillor page the 'View Printer Friendly' link works properly as the page renders freshly and picks up the current cID from the current URL to reconstruct the 'View Printer Friendly' link. So, basically I want to stop the viewcouncillor page from caching along with all other pages on the site that use URL variables or stop Commonspot from calling the cached version. I have been through the Commonspot options with my client and we can't find a way to do this. I hope this all made sense Simon. ___ * Regards, Richard Lovelock, Senior Application Analyst. Westminster City Council - Web Support Cap Gemini Ernst Young Southbank 95 Wandsworth Road London SW8 2HG ( 0870 906 7482 ___ -Original Message- From: Simon Horwith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 December 2003 11:27 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] NT/Windows Permissions Richard, I have SERIOUSLY EXTENSIVE experience with CommonSpot - what CS element(s) are you using to create the link? Also, which version of CS are you using? The problem is something in the way you're using the product, not in the product itself (CommonSpot actually has one of the best, most intelligent, caching frameworks I've ever seen). ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Lovelock, Richard J [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 December 2003 11:26 To: 'cflist' Subject: [ cf-dev ] NT/Windows Permissions we are using a CF based CMS (Commonspot) which is creating cached copies of pages within subfolders called 'cache' of each subsite. when hitting a link to a page with a url variable appended on the url - the page holding the link is cached so the link is cached and does not always provide the correct url variable on the link url (hope that makes
RE: [ cf-dev ] NT/Windows Permissions
why not create a custom render handler and specify that it's not cached? ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Lovelock, Richard J [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 December 2003 13:53 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] NT/Windows Permissions The code for this is in the base template itself and now it has been modified it is effectively custom cf code but that doesn't prevent the pages with the link on being cached? ___ * Regards, Richard Lovelock, Senior Application Analyst. Westminster City Council - Web Support Cap Gemini Ernst Young Southbank 95 Wandsworth Road London SW8 2HG ( 0870 906 7482 ___ -Original Message- From: Simon Horwith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 December 2003 12:23 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] NT/Windows Permissions I have never found their out of the box render for print more than clunky to implement - I have found that building the link manually with a custom renderer or in the base template itself is much easier. Is there any reason why you can't do this? ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Lovelock, Richard J [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 December 2003 12:03 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Cc: WCC, AMSupport Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] NT/Windows Permissions Simon Thanks for the reply - I have looked through the caching sections of the Commonspot Admin guide but can't find anything to help me. We are using CS 3.0 SP1 soon to be 3.2 It is a little long winded but as you may know CS ships with a 'View Printer Friendly Version' link functionality which when clicked gives a cleaner version of the current page without nav, headers etc. It achieves this by taking the current URL and appending ?renderforprint=1 on to the end and then I think the base-page-template.cfm checks for this variable and does not render all the nav, header etc if it finds it. This piece of code had a bug (from Commonspot) in that it could not re-render pages with url variables in the URL as it drops the original URL variable and adds renderforprint=1 to the end - resulting in some nice red CF error code complaining about the original URL variable being missing. So.I amended the code for the 'View Printer Friendly Page' to inspect the current URL for URL variables and append renderforprint on the end: a href=cfif Len(CGI.Query_String)#cgi.script_name#?#cgi.query_string#renderforprint=1 cfelse#cgi.script_name#?renderforprint=1/cfif class=bottomnav [View Printer Friendly Version..] /a All well and good so far - until the following problem was identified. If you have a look at http://www1.westminster.gov.uk/yourcouncil/viewcouncillor.cfm?cID=9284 then hover over the 'View Printer Friendly Version' link at the bottom. You will see that the renderforprint=1 variable is being appended but the cID (Councillor ID) is different to the cID in the URL, so if you click the link you get a different councillor displayed. This is because Commonspot can't seem to recognise that viewcouncillor.cfm?cID=9284 is a different page to viewcouncillor.cfm?cID=9317 - so what it is doing is taking the pageid of viewcouncillor.cfm and taking the cached version of the page from ../yourcouncil/cache but this cached version has the 'View Printer Friendly' link cached with a different councillor ID. I have found the page id from the stub file and then found the relative cache file in the cache directory - and if I delete this and refresh the councillor page the 'View Printer Friendly' link works properly as the page renders freshly and picks up the current cID from the current URL to reconstruct the 'View Printer Friendly' link. So, basically I want to stop the viewcouncillor page from caching along with all other pages on the site that use URL variables or stop Commonspot from calling the cached version. I have been through the Commonspot options with my client and we can't find a way to do this. I hope this all made sense Simon. ___ * Regards, Richard Lovelock, Senior Application Analyst. Westminster City Council - Web Support Cap Gemini Ernst Young Southbank 95 Wandsworth Road London SW8 2HG ( 0870 906 7482 ___ -Original Message- From: Simon Horwith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 December 2003
RE: [ cf-dev ] .war files
a .war is a simple web application. It can be deployed by dropping the .war (or the expanded directories) onto a J2EE server instance and restarting it. In JRun (and most app. servers) you can also hot deploy them by changing jrun-web.xml in the war and you can deploy them manually via the app. server's console. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Snake Hollywood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 December 2003 10:24 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ cf-dev ] .war files I know we have some JAVA peeps here, can you tell me what to do with .war files. I know basically that they are the distributable java app in an archive, but how does one deploy it. It is intended to be run on JDK not CFMX, but we are hoping we can use the servlets via CFMX. Russ -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [ cf-dev ] SOT: IE + frames
why not pass CFID and CFTOKEN (and/or JSESSION ID if you're using J2EE memory) on the URL when changing the locations of frames? ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Tim Blair [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 December 2003 11:26 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ cf-dev ] SOT: IE + frames Morning... We've got an application that's been working fine, no problems. We've just stuck a frameset on the front so that the apparent site address remains contant and now we're having trouble with sessions - each page refresh gives us a new CFID etc. The initial page (with the frameset) and the contents are running on different domains - is there something with IE by default that stops cookies being set when a page is called within a frameset from a different domain? Tim. --- RAWNET LTD - Internet, New Media and ebusiness Gurus. Visit our new website at http://www.rawnet.com for more information about our company, or call us free anytime on 0800 294 24 24. --- Tim Blair Web Application Engineer, Rawnet Limited Direct Phone : +44 (0) 1344 393 441 Switchboard : +44 (0) 1344 393 040 --- This message may contain information which is legally privileged and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorised disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this information is strictly prohibited. Such notification notwithstanding, any comments, opinions, information or conclusions expressed in this message are those of the originator, not of rawnet limited, unless otherwise explicitly and independently indicated by an authorised representative of rawnet limited. --- -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [ cf-dev ] Europes Leading CF Expert?
I'd argue that if you're an expert, you wouldn't be using fusebox in the first place. Yes, I know, let the flames begin. No insult to anyone intended. bTW - what company is it that is hiring and claims to have Europe's leading CF Expert? My boss didn't tell me we're hiring ;) ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Matt Horn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 December 2003 14:50 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] Europes Leading CF Expert? Amateurs cf_flip choice =heads :D - Original Message - From: Justin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 4:50 PM Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Europes Leading CF Expert? Can't be you then , the syntax is cf_flip -Original Message- From: Adrian Lynch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 December 2003 14:26 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Europes Leading CF Expert? Then let's toss a coin, heads it's me, tails it's you... flip heads / tails / heads / tails / heads / tails / heads / tails / heads / tails / heads / /flip Heads it is :OD -Original Message- From: Steve Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 December 2003 14:20 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Europes Leading CF Expert? There is none: Your search - Europe's leading ColdFusion expert - did not match any documents See, Google never lies! -Original Message- From: Adrian Lynch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 December 2003 14:15 To: Cfug Dev List (E-mail) Subject: [ cf-dev ] Europes Leading CF Expert? Just read this in a Monster post My client, a leading European Software House, require a strong ColdFusion developer with at least 6 months MX experience. You must have a commercial background using SQL databases. Candidates must be articulate, team players willing to learn new skills. This position offers training in all Macromedia products and provides the opportunity to work alongside one of Europe's leading ColdFusion experts. ... I wonder who the expert is? -- Adrian Lynch Web Application Developer Thoughtbubble Ltd Full Service Agency -- http://www.thoughtbubble.com Tel: +44 (0) 20 7387 8890 (ex. 23) Fax: +44 (0) 20 7383 2220 -- The information in this email and in any attachments is confidential and intended solely for the attention and use of the named addressee(s). Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Thoughtbubble. This information may be subject to legal, professional or other privilege and further distribution of it is strictly prohibited without our authority. If you are not the intended recipient, you are not authorised to disclose, copy, distribute, or retain this message. Please notify us on +44 (0)207 387 8890. -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [ cf-dev ] Europes Leading CF Expert?
which one? ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Matt Horn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 December 2003 15:24 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] Europes Leading CF Expert? have you met Neil? - Original Message - From: Simon Horwith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 5:13 PM Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Europes Leading CF Expert? I'd argue that if you're an expert, you wouldn't be using fusebox in the first place. Yes, I know, let the flames begin. No insult to anyone intended. bTW - what company is it that is hiring and claims to have Europe's leading CF Expert? My boss didn't tell me we're hiring ;) ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Matt Horn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 December 2003 14:50 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] Europes Leading CF Expert? Amateurs cf_flip choice =heads :D - Original Message - From: Justin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 4:50 PM Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Europes Leading CF Expert? Can't be you then , the syntax is cf_flip -Original Message- From: Adrian Lynch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 December 2003 14:26 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Europes Leading CF Expert? Then let's toss a coin, heads it's me, tails it's you... flip heads / tails / heads / tails / heads / tails / heads / tails / heads / tails / heads / /flip Heads it is :OD -Original Message- From: Steve Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 December 2003 14:20 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Europes Leading CF Expert? There is none: Your search - Europe's leading ColdFusion expert - did not match any documents See, Google never lies! -Original Message- From: Adrian Lynch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 December 2003 14:15 To: Cfug Dev List (E-mail) Subject: [ cf-dev ] Europes Leading CF Expert? Just read this in a Monster post My client, a leading European Software House, require a strong ColdFusion developer with at least 6 months MX experience. You must have a commercial background using SQL databases. Candidates must be articulate, team players willing to learn new skills. This position offers training in all Macromedia products and provides the opportunity to work alongside one of Europe's leading ColdFusion experts. ... I wonder who the expert is? -- Adrian Lynch Web Application Developer Thoughtbubble Ltd Full Service Agency -- http://www.thoughtbubble.com Tel: +44 (0) 20 7387 8890 (ex. 23) Fax: +44 (0) 20 7383 2220 -- The information in this email and in any attachments is confidential and intended solely for the attention and use of the named addressee(s). Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Thoughtbubble. This information may be subject to legal, professional or other privilege and further distribution of it is strictly prohibited without our authority. If you are not the intended recipient, you are not authorised to disclose, copy, distribute, or retain this message. Please notify us on +44 (0)207 387 8890. -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev
RE: [ cf-dev ] Europes Leading CF Expert?
well said. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Paul Johnston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 December 2003 15:26 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Europes Leading CF Expert? Simon, I'd argue that if you're an expert, you wouldn't be using fusebox in the first place. Hear hear. If you're only a CF person, then maybe fusebox, but not if you're a CF expert. This from the person who put forward fusebox in s many ways, and uses it on his site - please note... This is for simplicity's sake and I really can't be bothered to change it. It was quick and easy to produce and works... It's not the expert or best way of doing it (but then, for that, I'd want to use CFMX and currently, my host can't be bothered to upgrade the accounts from CF5). Yes, I know, let the flames begin. No insult to anyone intended. bTW - what company is it that is hiring and claims to have Europe's leading CF Expert? My boss didn't tell me we're hiring ;) My boss (ie me) didn't tell me I was hiring either... But then, I'm probably not as much of a CF expert like others on this list. Paul -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [ cf-dev ] Europes Leading CF Expert?
not a Macromedia Certified Instructor. It's tougher than that... qite a bit. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Paul Johnston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 December 2003 15:57 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Europes Leading CF Expert? Quite. Steve I was a certified CF INSTRUCTOR back in the 90s Martin I was going to become a CF instructor, until I realised that all a CF instructor needed was to be certified ... Think about it! Paul -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [ cf-dev ] Europes Leading CF Expert?
no - there was plenty. I'm just losing my mind... it's been a long day. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Paul Johnston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 December 2003 16:05 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Europes Leading CF Expert? not a Macromedia Certified Instructor. It's tougher than that... qite a bit. Was there not enough tongue in cheek with my last email? Paul -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [ cf-dev ] Europes Leading CF Expert?
hmmm not sure how to take that ;) If it's any consolation, I'm half-British and was raised on Monty Python (and other lovely shows). ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Steve Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 December 2003 16:08 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Europes Leading CF Expert? I think he's one of them Americanians. Different humour thing going on there. They even spell it differently ;-) not a Macromedia Certified Instructor. It's tougher than that... qite a bit. Was there not enough tongue in cheek with my last email? Paul -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[ cf-dev ] MAX
Just wanted to let you all know that the MAX conference was fantastic. Lucas and I will be back in the UK and reporting on the conference soon. Cheers, ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [ cf-dev ] Image manipulation
there's also an exccellent application in DRK 4 that uses the Java Drawing API to do this stuff from CF. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Adam Reynolds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 November 2003 11:29 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Image manipulation 6.1 under win2003. ImageMagick is looking interesting. -Original Message- From: Stephen Moretti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 November 2003 11:21 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] Image manipulation What version of CF and OS?? Stephen Adam Reynolds wrote: Anybody have any example CF code that manipulates image sizes etc. I need to resize an image upload to 500 pixels wide, and create a thumbnail 150 pixels wide. Currently I have a client that is loading very big images on to a site, and want to get sort this out sometime next week, as it is abusive to end users. Adam -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [ cf-dev ] Query not producing any output
looks fine... are you sure that there is data in the DB that the CF 5 environment is using? ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Damian Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 November 2003 00:16 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ cf-dev ] Query not producing any output Hey all, in a bit of a rush. I've got this query that works fine on MX, but not on a server that's 5. However, it does not throw an error, just gives no data... can anyone see anything wrong with it? cfquery name=getThreads datasource=#request.dsn# SELECT threadID,threadTitle,threadDescription,messageCount,lastEdited,dateCreated,m embers.memberID,firstname,lastname,showEmail FROM contentThreads,members WHERE contentThreads.topicID = #attributes.topicID# AND contentThreads.memberID = members.memberID /cfquery Cheers d - Original Message - From: Jolly Green Giant [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 3:51 PM Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] Request scope One of the best pieces of advice I can give you is to put related stuff in a structure if it's going to becopied back and forth much. Then you can just duplicate the structure from the session to request (using just one line of code), rather than several cfset statements. __/ Matt Horn \__ Hi for as long as I have been writing Cold fusion code I have done this: cflock scope=session timeout=10 cfset request.userId= session.userId cfset request.productionhouseId = session.productionhouseId /cflock but everything works fine without the request scope cflock scope=session timeout=10 cfset userId= session.userId cfset productionhouseId = session.productionhouseId /cflock so my question is this Am I correct in setting session variables down to Request scope or will the other way work just as well? and if so .. why even have a request scope? Matt *Newbie |\/| Matt Horn Web Applications Developer Ph:+2782 424 3751 W: http://www.matt-horn.org E:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |\/| -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [ cf-dev ] Cfmx restart
if you're using MX 6.1 and haven't changed the files, and the admin is set to write class files to disk, not memory, then it doesn't recompile. If compiling to memory on MX 6.1 it will recompile after every reboot. On MX or MX 6.1 if you change a page it will be recompiled. Also, the first time you ask for a page after reboot, recompile or not, CF will put the cache into memory. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Sandeep Shetty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 October 2003 12:37 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: [ cf-dev ] Cfmx restart Hi, Does CFMX recompile cfm pages after a restart? We restart our cf server once a day and seems the cfmx server recompiles cfm pages after restart which makes pages a bit slow (first time load) even though no changes have been made. Is there a setting which keeps compiled pages in memory when cf restarts? Any suggestions/help appreciated Thanks Sandeep -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [ cf-dev ] Case sensitive DSN
it may have been something else... did you try setting it back to the wrong case to see if it breaks again? ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Snake Hollywood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 October 2003 14:13 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ cf-dev ] Case sensitive DSN Anyone ever heard of a DSN being case sensitive ? A site that was working fine, decided to stop working mysteriously. And the only thing I could find was that the DSN was not in the right case. I changed it and everything started working again. So CFMx just randonly decided to be case sensitive for no reason. -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [ cf-dev ] Certified CFMX Developer Exam
if you look at the outline on Macromedia.com and look over the syllabus for the fast track to ColdFsion, Advanced Coldfusion for Developers, and Fast Track to SQL courses and make sure you're comfortable with all of those topics, you'll be fine ;) ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Alex Skinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 October 2003 10:12 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Certified CFMX Developer Exam Practice and more practice, id guess. The exam does expect you to know most attributes of tags and knowledge of most functions. Also you will be presented with code for which you need to find the error or say what the output will be. If you want a good revision guide get ben fortas cfmx exam book and also contains discount voucher for vue. Wouldn't say its a replacement for experience but IMHO better than the online variants. HTH Alex -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [ cf-dev ] Performance
general rule of thumb is that caching queries will be MUCH faster. If the queries are dynamic, this can be more difficult to efficiently do, though. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Allan Cliff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 October 2003 10:33 To: CF - List Subject: [ cf-dev ] Performance Anyone like to share their opinion on improving coldfusion speed either by using stored procedures or caching queries? Which one is better? Or does it depend on the query. At the moment I have a mixture of them both with dynamic queries as SP and basic queries q_GetCountries and q_GetStates as CachedWithin. Any comments? Thanks Allan -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [ cf-dev ] Auctions
a company called AllSoldOut has one I've used which is pretty good. (www.allsoldout.com) ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Allan Cliff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 October 2003 13:57 To: CF - List Subject: [ cf-dev ] Auctions Anyone know of any good auction software or something to fit into coldfusion? Have seen this one so far. http://www.silanta.com/products_enterprise.html -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [ cf-dev ] More Stored Procedures
250 characters really is overkill just to say 'thanks' ;) ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Allan Cliff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 21 October 2003 09:37 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] More Stored Procedures That sounds like real fun. Declare @signature varchar(250) set @signature = 'Thanks' EXEC(@signature) Allan - Original Message - From: Ellwood To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 10:08 AM Subject: [cfmail] RE: [ cf-dev ] More Stored Procedures You need to store the whole thing in a string variable such as : DECLARE @YourVar varchar(4000) SET @YourVar = ' SELECT * FROM Table WHERE 1 = 1' If a = 1 SET @YourVar = @YourVar + ' AND ColumnA = 10' If thisvar = 'No' SET @Yourvar = @YourVar + ' AND ColumnB IN (#A_List#)' If OrderBy = 'Yes' SET @Yourvar = @YourVar + ' ORDER BY ColumnC' EXEC(@YourVar) There is no end if in Sp's If you have several things you wish to do you need to enclose them in a BEGINEND i.e. If YourCondisition BEGIN Do lots of stuff END Else BEGIN Do lots of other stuff END -Original Message- From: Allan Cliff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 21 October 2003 08:47 To: CF - List What is the SP equivalent of: SELECT * FROM Table WHERE 1 = 1 CFIF a IS 1AND ColumnA = 10/CFIF CFIF thisvar IS No AND ColumnB IN (#A_List#)/CFIF CFIF orderby IS YesORDER BY ColumnC/CFIF Not this actual example but the principle as I can't see closing IFs in SPs. -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [ cf-dev ] CFAdmin: Custom Tags
don't forget cfimport.. I love that tag ;) ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Snake Hollywood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 October 2003 00:44 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] CFAdmin: Custom Tags You also do not have to use this method to use custom tags. You can also add a new custom tags path in the cfadmin, usually a folder in the root of your domain. Then you can calls tags with cf_tagname You can also use cfmodule in the format cfmodule template=folder/tagname.cfm Or you can add a custom mapping in the cfadmin and use cfmodule template=/mapping/tagname.cfm HTH Russ Michaels Macromedia/Allaire Certified ColdFusion Developer CFDeveloper The free resource and community for ColdFusion developer. http://www.cfdeveloper.co.uk Join the CFDeveloper discussion lists. To subscribe send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Jolly Green Giant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 21 October 2003 23:11 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] CFAdmin: Custom Tags Perfect. Thanks a heap. __/ Justin \__ In the Extensions section in the admin, click Custon Tag Paths , and add it in there. -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [ cf-dev ] DWMX nightmare
I recently had the same thing happen. I've also noticed that Dreamweaver's search functionality (and search and replace) appears to have stopped working, which is very snnoying. Not sure whether or not it's because I'm running the beta still? There is another bug that I'm preparing to MM complain about, but need to test it on a proper version of DWMX first. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Snake Hollywood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 October 2003 01:42 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ cf-dev ] DWMX nightmare OK I had a very weird problem today. DWMX saved my file with double spacing or more everywhwere. It just inserted blank lines all over the show, extra spaces between every character etc, and the file would no longer run. I have to clean up the file in studio and get it back into a working state, and now whenever I try to open this file in DWMX it shows a load of ASCII rubbish, like an encrypted file except worse. The file loads fine into notepad and studio but not DWMX. I have even tried creating a new file and pasting the code into it, but still the same. Tried it on 2 computers running DWMX, both the same. DWMX does seem to have problems with large files as well, this is a 285k file, and DWMX is slow as a tortoise, a copy and paste takes 30 seconds, and so does swapping between design/code pane or saving a file. Again the same behaviour on multiple machines. -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [ cf-dev ] Valid address checker
not to say that this is the best solution, but off of the top of my head one thing you can do is check to make sure that an address username doesn't have more than 4 or 5 consanants in a row... that's an extremely rare case with legitimate addresses. You can also finger addresses, but you then have to accept that fingering isn't going to work with web-based e-mail clients like hotmail, yahoo, etc. Not last time I checked, anyway. This obviously isn't going to catch 100% of the garbage - but the odds are good that whatever it does catch, is garbage. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Snake Hollywood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 October 2003 19:49 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ cf-dev ] Valid address checker Guys, I am really getting miffed with all the bogus signups on cfdeveloper now, it wastes my time having to sift through all the bogus ones to validate the legit ones. Does anyone have any kind of script that can intelligently check form fields and identify addresses or names which are total garbage so I can reject them. I have registered on sites myself and just typed in junk and it has been caught as junk, so I know it's not an impossible request. Russ Michaels Macromedia/Allaire Certified ColdFusion Developer CFDeveloper The free resource and community for ColdFusion developer. http://www.cfdeveloper.co.uk Join the CFDeveloper discussion lists. To subscribe send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [ cf-dev ] Mod_Gzip
there are several of them out there. The only one I've had hands-on experience with is IIS Accelerator (http://www.iisaccelerator.com/). ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Snake Hollywood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 October 2003 21:24 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Mod_Gzip There is also an ISAPI plugin for IIS that compresses files, don't remember what it is called though. -Original Message- From: Colm Brazel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 October 2003 18:46 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Mod_Gzip CFDJ editorial had a writeup, Syscon switching all their servers onto apache from iis, using mod_gzip noticing big page load increases. Anyway, I got it to work see raqfaq comments below but to sort out why my .cfm pages were not being gzipped, I used http://webforums.macromedia.com/coldfusion/messageview.cfm?cat id=3threadid= 221027highlight%20key=ykeyword1=apachekeyword2=gzip replacing the mod_gzip httpd config commands with the ones in the article above, I left out 2 concerning forms as there may be an issue around them. The .cfm pages are now being gzipped as well. Only issue I need to keep open mind about is I`m not sure the code in the article above handles graphics as well as the original code I used. This was code customised from discussion on mod_gzip on cobalt_users forum to get it to work on a cobalt raq3. Comments at end of raqfaq before getting the cfm pages gzipped at http://www.uk2raq.com/raqfaq/raqfaqshow.php?faq=113 cheers Colm Colm Brazel MA CB Publications www.cbweb.net http://www.cbweb.net Macromedia-Dublin UserGroup Manager http://www.mmug-dublin.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site Design Development, Cold Fusion, general publishing including E-Books. The information contained in this e-mail transmission is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended only for the addressee(s) stated above. If you are not an addressee, any use, dissemination, distribution, publication,or copying of the information contained in this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify CB Publications by telephone at 353-1-4941625 or e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] and delete the e-mail from your system. -Original Message- From: Snake Hollywood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 October 2003 18:18 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Mod_Gzip You have to remember that .cfm pages are not prosessed by the web server, the web server simply passes requests for .cfm pages over to the coldfusion server. -Original Message- From: Colm Brazel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 October 2003 17:07 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ cf-dev ] Mod_Gzip Hi, Just installed mod_gzip module on Apache and the pages fly, all that is except the .cfm pages. Anyone got mod_gzip compression on apache to work with .cfm pages on CF 5.0, or are there issues around this? Colm Colm Brazel MA CB Publications www.cbweb.net http://www.cbweb.net Macromedia-Dublin UserGroup Manager http://www.mmug-dublin.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site Design Development, Cold Fusion, general publishing including E-Books. The information contained in this e-mail transmission is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended only for the addressee(s) stated above. If you are not an addressee, any use, dissemination, distribution, publication,or copying of the information contained in this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify CB Publications by telephone at 353-1-4941625 or e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] and delete the e-mail from your system. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.521 / Virus Database: 319 - Release Date: 23/09/2003 -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev% 40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.521 / Virus Database: 319 - Release Date: 23/09/2003 --- Outgoing mail
RE: [ cf-dev ] Valid address checker
to check street addresses, there isn't a whole lot you can do other than verifying that it begins with a numeric character followed by whatever, followed by a space, followed by some alpha-numeric characters. Other than that, you could use a web service or other source to try and validate that it's a valid street... but streets (in the States, anyway) are added so frequently that you'd be putting a lot of faith in an imperfect validation source. My earlier suggestion would again hold true here... if it's got 5 or 6 non-vowel characters in a row, it's probably bullshit. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Snake Hollywood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 October 2003 21:31 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Valid address checker When I say addresses, I don't mean e-mail. I mean street addresses. E.g 1 sevenacres grove Valid address Sdklfjdkslfjdkl Invalid address -Original Message- From: Simon Horwith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 October 2003 21:08 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Valid address checker not to say that this is the best solution, but off of the top of my head one thing you can do is check to make sure that an address username doesn't have more than 4 or 5 consanants in a row... that's an extremely rare case with legitimate addresses. You can also finger addresses, but you then have to accept that fingering isn't going to work with web-based e-mail clients like hotmail, yahoo, etc. Not last time I checked, anyway. This obviously isn't going to catch 100% of the garbage - but the odds are good that whatever it does catch, is garbage. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Snake Hollywood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 October 2003 19:49 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ cf-dev ] Valid address checker Guys, I am really getting miffed with all the bogus signups on cfdeveloper now, it wastes my time having to sift through all the bogus ones to validate the legit ones. Does anyone have any kind of script that can intelligently check form fields and identify addresses or names which are total garbage so I can reject them. I have registered on sites myself and just typed in junk and it has been caught as junk, so I know it's not an impossible request. Russ Michaels Macromedia/Allaire Certified ColdFusion Developer CFDeveloper The free resource and community for ColdFusion developer. http://www.cfdeveloper.co.uk Join the CFDeveloper discussion lists. To subscribe send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [ cf-dev ] Valid address checker
keep in mind that, like I said, there is a certain degree of risk involved in using services like these... unless you either don't need to be too accurate or they actually guarantee accuracy (which they don't). That said, in the UK a web service like this is probably rather accurate. I wouldn't recommend this approach in the U.S. - streets are added far too often and there are too many roads already there... you shouldn't expect better than a 60 to 70 (at best) percent accuracy rate. One other alternative is to take whatever word they type and use verity to do a soundex on it. It it's not a real word or a derivitive of one, it's probably fake. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Ellwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 October 2003 23:49 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Valid address checker I think so.. -Original Message- From: Snake Hollywood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 October 2003 23:43 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Valid address checker Very nice :-) Does this just do UK addresses ? -Original Message- From: NTL [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 October 2003 21:45 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Valid address checker If there is a free one then I would love to know. There are plenty of really expensive alternatives such as GBGroup, Quick Address, etc that use dll's called via cfc and com. There is however, a site available that I worked on recently that have their own address finder which you might find it useful to use (inadvertantly that is). The code that may or may not work ;-) is as follows: !--- Find the address --- CFOBJECT action=CREATE class=MSXML2.XMLHTTP name=objXMLSend type=COM CFSET PostCode = Replace(Trim(attributes.PostCode), ,,ALL) CFSET Premise = attributes.Premise CFSET str_PostData = postcode=#PostCode#building_name=#Premise# CFSCRIPT objXMLSend.Open(Post,http://www.GlobalDataManagement.co.uk/ clients/co ors_brewers/2934/address/get_address.php?#str_PostData#, False); objXMLSend.Send(); str_Response = objXMLSend.responseText; /CFSCRIPT !--- Extract each address element form the result string --- CFIF FindNoCase(error,str_Response) eq 0 CFSET start = FindNoCase(line1,str_Response) Cfset line1start = start + 7 CFSET end = FindNoCase(/line1,str_Response) CFSET address1 = Mid(str_Response,line1start,end-line1start) CFSET start = FindNoCase(line2,str_Response) Cfset line2start = start + 7 CFSET end = FindNoCase(/line2,str_Response) CFSET address2 = Mid(str_Response,line2start,end-line2start) CFSET start = FindNoCase(line3,str_Response) Cfset line3start = start + 7 CFSET end = FindNoCase(/line3,str_Response) CFSET address3 = Mid(str_Response,line3start,end-line3start) CFSET start = FindNoCase(town,str_Response) Cfset townstart = start + 6 CFSET end = FindNoCase(/town,str_Response) CFSET town = Mid(str_Response,townstart,end-townstart) CFSET start = FindNoCase(postcode,str_Response) Cfset postcodestart = start + 10 CFSET end = FindNoCase(/postcode,str_Response) CFSET postcode = Mid(str_Response,postcodestart,end-postcodestart) /CFIF However, I will deny this code exists if anyone asks. And If they ask where it cam from just say 5 fgJvbff Street, vghfghffh, TS13 -Original Message- From: Snake Hollywood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 October 2003 21:31 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Valid address checker When I say addresses, I don't mean e-mail. I mean street addresses. E.g 1 sevenacres grove Valid address Sdklfjdkslfjdkl Invalid address -Original Message- From: Simon Horwith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 October 2003 21:08 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Valid address checker not to say that this is the best solution, but off of the top of my head one thing you can do is check to make sure that an address username doesn't have more than 4 or 5 consanants in a row... that's an extremely rare case with legitimate addresses. You can also finger addresses, but you then have to accept that fingering isn't going
RE: [ cf-dev ] error diagnostic information unable to write mail message to disk
I believe there is, but it's in a different place...I haven't used NT in so long I can't remember to be honest. The AT command really isn't very tricky... why not just use that? ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Lovelock, Richard J [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 October 2003 10:53 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] error diagnostic information unable to write mail message to disk there is no Scheduled Tasks in Control Panel on NT? is there one somewhere without using AT Command? ___ * Regards, Richard Lovelock Westminster City Council - Web Support Cap Gemini Ernst Young Southbank 95 Wandsworth Road London SW8 2HG ( 0870 906 7482 ___ -Original Message- From: Snake Hollywood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 October 2003 10:43 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] error diagnostic information unable to write mail message to disk Yes. Go into control panel, scheduled tasks and you can see/edit/create them Also from command promtp with the AT command -Original Message- From: Lovelock, Richard J [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 October 2003 10:32 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] error diagnostic information unable to write mail message to disk so can i just confirm - running that cycle.bat won't actually stop/restart the services but rather schedule the services to be stoped/started under the O/S scheduler which can then be edited? ___ * Regards, Richard Lovelock Westminster City Council - Web Support Cap Gemini Ernst Young Southbank 95 Wandsworth Road London SW8 2HG ( 0870 906 7482 ___ -Original Message- From: Stephen Moretti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 October 2003 10:17 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] error diagnostic information unable to write mail message to disk i read somewhere that it is a good idea to use the cycle.bat file in cfusion/bin with the OS scheduler? Not so much of a worry these days But just so you know, running cycle.bat sets up the schedule tasks to restart the CF services, so you only need to run it once, then check and tweak the schedule jobs to run when you want them to run (2am is default if I remember correctly) Stephen -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** ** This message contains information that may be privileged or confidential and is the property of the Cap Gemini Ernst Young Group. It is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are not authorized to read, print, retain, copy, disseminate, distribute, or use this message or any part thereof. If you receive this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete all copies of this message . ** ** -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [ cf-dev ] error diagnostic information unable to write mail message to disk
Yes - they have to match exactly. As my original example showed, be sure to wrap quotes around the service name. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Lovelock, Richard J [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 October 2003 11:25 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] error diagnostic information unable to write mail message to disk do these Net commands have to map to the exact title of the services under services i say this because Cold Fusion Application Server has a space between Cold and Fusion whereas ColdFusion Executive doesn't - so is this how they have to appear in the batch job? ___ * Regards, Richard Lovelock Westminster City Council - Web Support Cap Gemini Ernst Young Southbank 95 Wandsworth Road London SW8 2HG ( 0870 906 7482 ___ -Original Message- From: Snake Hollywood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 October 2003 11:12 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] error diagnostic information unable to write mail message to disk If u can't see it by typing AT then it's not there. All scheduled tasks will show up by typing AT -Original Message- From: Lovelock, Richard J [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 October 2003 11:03 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] error diagnostic information unable to write mail message to disk well i did use that - I was told by our client that there is a scheduled restart of CF on the NT box - and i couldn't see it when using the AT command so I was wandering if there was a GUI type interface as on Win 2000 to double check ___ * Regards, Richard Lovelock Westminster City Council - Web Support Cap Gemini Ernst Young Southbank 95 Wandsworth Road London SW8 2HG ( 0870 906 7482 ___ -Original Message- From: Simon Horwith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 October 2003 11:00 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] error diagnostic information unable to write mail message to disk I believe there is, but it's in a different place...I haven't used NT in so long I can't remember to be honest. The AT command really isn't very tricky... why not just use that? ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Lovelock, Richard J [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 October 2003 10:53 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] error diagnostic information unable to write mail message to disk there is no Scheduled Tasks in Control Panel on NT? is there one somewhere without using AT Command? ___ * Regards, Richard Lovelock Westminster City Council - Web Support Cap Gemini Ernst Young Southbank 95 Wandsworth Road London SW8 2HG ( 0870 906 7482 ___ -Original Message- From: Snake Hollywood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 October 2003 10:43 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] error diagnostic information unable to write mail message to disk Yes. Go into control panel, scheduled tasks and you can see/edit/create them Also from command promtp with the AT command -Original Message- From: Lovelock, Richard J [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 October 2003 10:32 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] error diagnostic information unable to write mail message to disk so can i just confirm - running that cycle.bat won't actually stop/restart the services but rather schedule the services to be stoped/started under the O/S scheduler which can then be edited? ___ * Regards, Richard Lovelock Westminster City Council - Web Support Cap Gemini Ernst Young Southbank 95 Wandsworth Road London SW8 2HG ( 0870 906 7482 ___ -Original Message- From: Stephen Moretti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 October 2003 10:17 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] error diagnostic information unable to write mail message to disk i read somewhere that it is a good idea to use the cycle.bat file in cfusion/bin with the OS scheduler? Not so much of a worry these days But just so you know, running
RE: [ cf-dev ] DWMX2004
I strongly looking more closely at Flash MX 2004. I can't think of a single reason not to upgrade to it. If nothing else, let's just say it's the first version that offers software developers anything note-worthy. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Paul Johnston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 October 2003 12:54 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] DWMX2004 Is there any reason to upgrade to this from DWMX6.1 ? Ooooh... Good question! I'm certainly not convinced of the need to upgrade to FlashMX 2004, so... -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [ cf-dev ] DWMX2004
I find that about 70 - 80 % of my development (90% of my business logic) is housed in CFCs. If you've planned your application well, the CFC Wizard makes development so much faster by allowing you to create skeleton files. In MX 2004, the stylesheet support is also second to none... VERY SLICK. MX 2004 is also a lot nicer when you're manually working with XML files. It's a nicer app. for those developers concerned with browser version compliance and for those people who also use the other studio MX products (the integration with other Studio MX 2004 Suite apps is very good). ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Stephen Pope [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 October 2003 14:29 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] DWMX2004 Not to be horrible or anything but what are the amazing tools ? .. I didn't really find anything in DWMX that I would use other than tag and function insights. Ive been using Zend Studio quite a bit for PHP stuff and that has some great features like variable tracking that would be very useful in DW. :¬) Stephen -Original Message- From: Simon Horwith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 October 2003 14:24 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] DWMX2004 Yes, it is slower than studio or Homesite ever were - that's just something you've got to live with. On the other hand, DW MX has some amazing tools that make development time much faster. All in all, I've found that if you drop some RAM in your machine and force yourself to use Dreamweaver MX, you will come around and feel that it is a superior development tool. That's not to say there aren't things you'll miss, but it's like that with anything, really. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Snake Hollywood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 October 2003 13:58 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] DWMX2004 I have a doc that is about 200k and DWMX is slow so whenever I edit anything, it's like being on a old P100 computer -Original Message- From: Stephen Pope [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 October 2003 13:27 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] DWMX2004 Is MX 2004 still as slow as DWMX is .. when saving files etc.? I always got a huge lag ! Annoyed the hell out of me ! (Good ol' Homesite+ happy on my l33t 500mhz machine hehe)bitterness or am I gonna need a render-farm to save stuff these days ? /bitterness :¬) Stephen -Original Message- From: Kola Oyedeji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 October 2003 13:15 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] DWMX2004 Hmmm Admittedly I have not used it in anger but I have been using it, and other than a nice interface upgrade and a few feature which were in studio but not in DW finally being included (such as ctrl-w to close all) I'm still not convinced. Kola -Original Message- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:Neil.Robertson- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 October 2003 13:01 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] DWMX2004 Many reasonsand not sound like an MM salesman ;-)... better Stylesheet support, more of a code editor than previous versions more stable (although it has been noted to be slower etc.., I havent found that to be the case) generally all round polished off from MX 1.0 -Original Message- From: Kola Oyedeji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 October 2003 12:56 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] DWMX2004 Interesting can I ask why? Kola -Original Message- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:Neil.Robertson- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 October 2003 12:50 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] DWMX2004 I would say so, yes -Original Message- From: Snake Hollywood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 October 2003 12:51 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ cf-dev ] DWMX2004 Is there any reason to upgrade to this from DWMX6.1 ? -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk
RE: [ cf-dev ] DWMX2004
I suppose, but sometimes that's what it takes ;) ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Rich Wild [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 October 2003 14:29 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] DWMX2004 force yourself to use Dreamweaver MX, you will come around and feel that it is a superior development tool. That's a bit like Stockholm Syndrome isn't it? -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [ cf-dev ] Undelivered Emails
I just wanted to chime in and give this response a SOLID second nomination. The mail capabilities in MX (particularly MX 6.1) are fing great. To loosly quote Lucas, the only load issues with CFMAIL in MX are those of the mail server, not ColdFusion. if sending e-mail is a prority, I'd upgrade. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Colm Brazel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 October 2003 18:32 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Undelivered Emails MX 6.1 has multi threaded cfmail, enterprise ver capable of millions per hour whereras CF5 single threaded mail in the thousands, how many are being sent. MX can keep SMTP server connection open for use on later sends. I suspect maybe SMTP is busy, maybe there is a time out issue when this si so, look at http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/mx/coldfusion/articles/intro_61.html Colm -Original Message- From: Sandeep Shetty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 October 2003 18:20 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Undelivered Emails We are using cf 5 Anyone used cf_activmail? any custom tag/recommendations for more sending emails more reliably? -Original Message- From: Ross Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 October 2003 18:10 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Undelivered Emails I believe CFMAIL has been overhauled massively for CFMX6.1 Enterprise - what version are you using? R --- RAWNET LIMITED - Internet, New Media and ebusiness Gurus Visit our new website at http://www.rawnet.com for more information about our company, or call us anytime on 01344 393 040. --- Ross Williams Managing Director, Rawnet Limited Direct Phone : +44 (0) 1344 393 440 Switchboard : +44 (0) 1344 393 040 --- This message may contain information which is legally privileged and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorised disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this information is strictly prohibited. Such notification notwithstanding, any comments, opinions, information or conclusions expressed in this message are those of the originator, not of rawnet limited, unless otherwise explicitly and independently indicated by an authorised representative of rawnet limited. --- -Original Message- From: Snake Hollywood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 October 2003 18:04 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Undelivered Emails Cfmail is generally crap. But it could be for many reason. SMTP server couldn't send, address couldn't be resolved. You can setup a schedule that copies all undelivered mail back into spool every day. - FIGHT BACK AGAINST SPAM! Download Spam Inspector, the Award Winning Anti-Spam Filter http://mail.giantcompany.com -Original Message- From: Sandeep Shetty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 October 2003 17:55 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: [ cf-dev ] Undelivered Emails Hi, I have a question on undelivered emails. Have noticed that perfectly good emails with proper to and from email addresses and proper mailservers getting put in the cf undelivered folder. And then when they are putback into spool as is they get delivered, sometimes they get undelivered again and after a few tries they get sent. Does anyone have a idea why this happens? Would it be because the email server on the other end was busy or the email server we are sending it thro (we use imail) is busy? Thanks, Sandeep -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.521 / Virus Database: 319 - Release Date: 23/09/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus
RE: [ cf-dev ] Undelivered Emails
true. I have a tendency to take for granted that not everyone is running Enterprise. BTW - it's worth the cost if you're going to leverage it's features ;) ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Neil Robertson-Ravo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 October 2003 21:15 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] Undelivered Emails Though as noted earlier...the true benefits in CFMAIL 6.1 are only available in ColdFusion Enterprise edition...so if you are on Pro, you will pay for the upgrade. Neil - Original Message - From: Simon Horwith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 8:54 PM Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Undelivered Emails I just wanted to chime in and give this response a SOLID second nomination. The mail capabilities in MX (particularly MX 6.1) are fing great. To loosly quote Lucas, the only load issues with CFMAIL in MX are those of the mail server, not ColdFusion. if sending e-mail is a prority, I'd upgrade. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Colm Brazel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 October 2003 18:32 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Undelivered Emails MX 6.1 has multi threaded cfmail, enterprise ver capable of millions per hour whereras CF5 single threaded mail in the thousands, how many are being sent. MX can keep SMTP server connection open for use on later sends. I suspect maybe SMTP is busy, maybe there is a time out issue when this si so, look at http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/mx/coldfusion/articles/intro_61.html Colm -Original Message- From: Sandeep Shetty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 October 2003 18:20 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Undelivered Emails We are using cf 5 Anyone used cf_activmail? any custom tag/recommendations for more sending emails more reliably? -Original Message- From: Ross Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 October 2003 18:10 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Undelivered Emails I believe CFMAIL has been overhauled massively for CFMX6.1 Enterprise - what version are you using? R --- RAWNET LIMITED - Internet, New Media and ebusiness Gurus Visit our new website at http://www.rawnet.com for more information about our company, or call us anytime on 01344 393 040. --- Ross Williams Managing Director, Rawnet Limited Direct Phone : +44 (0) 1344 393 440 Switchboard : +44 (0) 1344 393 040 --- This message may contain information which is legally privileged and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorised disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this information is strictly prohibited. Such notification notwithstanding, any comments, opinions, information or conclusions expressed in this message are those of the originator, not of rawnet limited, unless otherwise explicitly and independently indicated by an authorised representative of rawnet limited. --- -Original Message- From: Snake Hollywood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 October 2003 18:04 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Undelivered Emails Cfmail is generally crap. But it could be for many reason. SMTP server couldn't send, address couldn't be resolved. You can setup a schedule that copies all undelivered mail back into spool every day. - FIGHT BACK AGAINST SPAM! Download Spam Inspector, the Award Winning Anti-Spam Filter http://mail.giantcompany.com -Original Message- From: Sandeep Shetty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 October 2003 17:55 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: [ cf-dev ] Undelivered Emails Hi, I have a question on undelivered emails. Have noticed that perfectly good emails with proper to and from email addresses and proper mailservers getting put in the cf undelivered folder. And then when they are putback into spool as is they get delivered, sometimes they get undelivered again and after a few tries they get sent. Does anyone have a idea why this happens? Would it be because the email server on the other end was busy or the email server we are sending it thro (we use imail) is busy? Thanks, Sandeep -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev
