Re: Cleanup to SNAPSHOT version handling

2010-12-28 Thread Benjamin Bentmann

Brett Porter wrote:


I think the original reason the logic is how it is was because just SNAPSHOT 
(with no leading version) was valid, but that behaviour has long been (unofficially) 
deprecated.


Given this style of versioning is apparently in use and I personally see 
nothing wrong with having just SNAPSHOT to refer to the HEAD of some 
project I suggest we go with the following for Maven 3.0.2:


a) Treat SNAPSHOT, *-SNAPSHOT and the respective 
expanded/timestamped forms as snapshot versions, anything else as release
b) Emit a model warning if the project version ends with SNAPSHOT but 
does not match the patterns mentioned in a)



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Re: Cleanup to SNAPSHOT version handling

2010-12-28 Thread Jason van Zyl

On Dec 28, 2010, at 10:02 AM, Benjamin Bentmann wrote:

 Brett Porter wrote:
 
 I think the original reason the logic is how it is was because just 
 SNAPSHOT (with no leading version) was valid, but that behaviour has long 
 been (unofficially) deprecated.
 
 Given this style of versioning is apparently in use and I personally see 
 nothing wrong with having just SNAPSHOT to refer to the HEAD of some 
 project I suggest we go with the following for Maven 3.0.2:
 
 a) Treat SNAPSHOT, *-SNAPSHOT and the respective expanded/timestamped 
 forms as snapshot versions, anything else as release
 b) Emit a model warning if the project version ends with SNAPSHOT but does 
 not match the patterns mentioned in a)
 

+1

I think anything that moves us closer toward the OSGi versioning would be 
better. I also think being more explicit with the version would be better and 
accounts for the case where you have multiple branches and you need to identify 
the tip of each. I don't think we should allow just SNAPSHOT anymore as it 
provides no version context which I think is important. 

We often see the following:

x-SNAPSHOT
x.y-SNAPSHOT
x.y.z-SNAPSHOT

Which at least provide some version context, but ultimately I think we should 
try to move toward:

http://www.osgi.org/javadoc/r4v42/org/osgi/framework/Version.html

So I would opt for b) and emit a warning if not in the *-SNAPSHOT form and 
officially deprecate SNAPSHOT and think about moving toward x.y.z.qualifier 
as a standard. I don't think multiple version schemes are truly helpful.

 
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Julia Antonova/Tumlare is out of office.

2010-12-28 Thread Julia Antonova

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Re: Julia Antonova/Tumlare is out of office.

2010-12-28 Thread Stephen Connolly
Can somebody not on a smart phone update the wiki again ;-)

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Re: Julia Antonova/Tumlare is out of office.

2010-12-28 Thread Paul Benedict
Just two days? It's Christmas week -- you deserve many more days off than
that :)

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Moving scm to java 1.5

2010-12-28 Thread Olivier Lamy
Hi,
As we will start a new year, I'd like to move scm to java 1.5.
Let me know if you have any trouble regarding this . (jira entry
http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/SCM-591)

Thanks,
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Re: Moving scm to java 1.5

2010-12-28 Thread Benjamin Bentmann

Olivier Lamy wrote:


As we will start a new year, I'd like to move scm to java 1.5.


+1


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Re: Moving scm to java 1.5

2010-12-28 Thread Kristian Rosenvold
+1




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Re: Moving scm to java 1.5

2010-12-28 Thread Arnaud Héritier
+1

Arnaud

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Re: Moving scm to java 1.5

2010-12-28 Thread Evgeny Mandrikov
+1

2010/12/28 Arnaud Héritier arnaud.herit...@exoplatform.com

 +1

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Re: Moving scm to java 1.5

2010-12-28 Thread Stephen Connolly
+1

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 Hi,
 As we will start a new year, I'd like to move scm to java 1.5.
 Let me know if you have any trouble regarding this . (jira entry
 http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/SCM-591)

 Thanks,
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Re: Moving scm to java 1.5

2010-12-28 Thread Jason van Zyl
+1

On Dec 28, 2010, at 3:15 PM, Olivier Lamy wrote:

 Hi,
 As we will start a new year, I'd like to move scm to java 1.5.
 Let me know if you have any trouble regarding this . (jira entry
 http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/SCM-591)
 
 Thanks,
 -- 
 Olivier Lamy
 http://twitter.com/olamy
 http://www.linkedin.com/in/olamy
 
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Re: Julia Antonova/Tumlare is out of office.

2010-12-28 Thread Stephane Nicoll
She has no more left. That sounds obvious, no? :)

On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 7:33 PM, Paul Benedict pbened...@apache.org wrote:

 Just two days? It's Christmas week -- you deserve many more days off than
 that :)

 On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Julia Antonova juli...@tumlare.com
 wrote:

 
  I will be out of the office starting  28.12.2010 and will not return
 until
  30.12.2010.
 
  I have no acces to my mailbox, I will reply to your message upon return.
  For urgent issues please contact my colleagues (Nov.08-12):
  Svetlana Butova / Administration - secretary...@tumlare.com
  Irina Pashina / Administration - irin...@tumlare.com
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Re: Moving scm to java 1.5

2010-12-28 Thread Stephane Nicoll
+1

S.

On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 9:15 PM, Olivier Lamy ol...@apache.org wrote:

 Hi,
 As we will start a new year, I'd like to move scm to java 1.5.
 Let me know if you have any trouble regarding this . (jira entry
 http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/SCM-591)

 Thanks,
 --
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 http://www.linkedin.com/in/olamy

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Re: Moving scm to java 1.5

2010-12-28 Thread Tamás Cservenák
+1

On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 10:19 PM, Stephane Nicoll stephane.nic...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 +1

 S.

 On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 9:15 PM, Olivier Lamy ol...@apache.org wrote:

  Hi,
  As we will start a new year, I'd like to move scm to java 1.5.
  Let me know if you have any trouble regarding this . (jira entry
  http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/SCM-591)
 
  Thanks,
  --
  Olivier Lamy
  http://twitter.com/olamy
  http://www.linkedin.com/in/olamy
 
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Re: Moving scm to java 1.5

2010-12-28 Thread Dennis Lundberg
+1

On 2010-12-28 21:15, Olivier Lamy wrote:
 Hi,
 As we will start a new year, I'd like to move scm to java 1.5.
 Let me know if you have any trouble regarding this . (jira entry
 http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/SCM-591)
 
 Thanks,


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Re: Cleanup to SNAPSHOT version handling

2010-12-28 Thread Brian E. Fox
-1 to a, +1 to b

--Brian (mobile)


On Dec 28, 2010, at 1:20 PM, Jason van Zyl ja...@maven.org wrote:

 
 On Dec 28, 2010, at 10:02 AM, Benjamin Bentmann wrote:
 
 Brett Porter wrote:
 
 I think the original reason the logic is how it is was because just 
 SNAPSHOT (with no leading version) was valid, but that behaviour has long 
 been (unofficially) deprecated.
 
 Given this style of versioning is apparently in use and I personally see 
 nothing wrong with having just SNAPSHOT to refer to the HEAD of some 
 project I suggest we go with the following for Maven 3.0.2:
 
 a) Treat SNAPSHOT, *-SNAPSHOT and the respective expanded/timestamped 
 forms as snapshot versions, anything else as release
 b) Emit a model warning if the project version ends with SNAPSHOT but does 
 not match the patterns mentioned in a)
 
 
 +1
 
 I think anything that moves us closer toward the OSGi versioning would be 
 better. I also think being more explicit with the version would be better and 
 accounts for the case where you have multiple branches and you need to 
 identify the tip of each. I don't think we should allow just SNAPSHOT 
 anymore as it provides no version context which I think is important. 
 
 We often see the following:
 
 x-SNAPSHOT
 x.y-SNAPSHOT
 x.y.z-SNAPSHOT
 
 Which at least provide some version context, but ultimately I think we should 
 try to move toward:
 
 http://www.osgi.org/javadoc/r4v42/org/osgi/framework/Version.html
 
 So I would opt for b) and emit a warning if not in the *-SNAPSHOT form and 
 officially deprecate SNAPSHOT and think about moving toward x.y.z.qualifier 
 as a standard. I don't think multiple version schemes are truly helpful.
 
 
 Benjamin
 
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Re: Moving scm to java 1.5

2010-12-28 Thread Brian E. Fox
+1 since we moved that way for 2.2 and 3, I think we can safely move all of our 
cosebases to 1.6 as needed

--Brian (mobile)


On Dec 28, 2010, at 3:15 PM, Olivier Lamy ol...@apache.org wrote:

 Hi,
 As we will start a new year, I'd like to move scm to java 1.5.
 Let me know if you have any trouble regarding this . (jira entry
 http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/SCM-591)
 
 Thanks,
 -- 
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Re: Cleanup to SNAPSHOT version handling

2010-12-28 Thread Benjamin Bentmann

Brian E. Fox wrote:


-1 to a, +1 to b


Just to be clear, I meant a) AND b), not either or. a) is concerned 
about the actual version interpretation, b) about guiding the user into 
the desired direction for future projects.


In light of this, I'm not sure what your -1 to a means.


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Re: Cleanup to SNAPSHOT version handling

2010-12-28 Thread Jason van Zyl

On Dec 28, 2010, at 6:06 PM, Benjamin Bentmann wrote:

 Brian E. Fox wrote:
 
 -1 to a, +1 to b
 
 Just to be clear, I meant a) AND b), not either or. a) is concerned about the 
 actual version interpretation, b) about guiding the user into the desired 
 direction for future projects.
 
 In light of this, I'm not sure what your -1 to a means.
 

Do not allow SNAPSHOT alone I believe is what he means.

 
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