Re: JDK 8 Build 121 JDK 7 Update 60 build 02 are available on java.net

2014-01-16 Thread Rory O'Donnell Oracle, Dublin Ireland

Hi Robert,

Any update on details on the performance issue  ?
Secondly , did you log a bug for the javadoc issues ?

Rgds, Rory
On 14/01/2014 13:21, Rory O'Donnell Oracle, Dublin Ireland wrote:

Hi Robert,

Comments below.

On 13/01/2014 19:36, Robert Scholte wrote:

Hi Rory,

The Apache Maven team has introduced a wiki page[1] to keep track of 
JDK8 specific issues.
These are results when we started to build+test all our plugins with 
JDK8.


We see that the javadoc executable has become stricter.
Especially the reference not found is tricky, since there's a good 
chance the sources are from a dependency, something we cannot change. 
The only workaround I could find was adding a excludePackageNames for 
the specific class, but this will exclude all classes of that package
Another issue with the javadoc executable is that the 
excludedocfilessubdir argument is ignored (on Win7). This seems to be 
regression.
Can you log a web bug for this please. let me know the Incident number 
and I can monitor it's

progress.


There is probably also regression in the jarsigner executable when 
verifying fails, see MJARSIGNER-30.


I noticed https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8031572 is logged 
via a web bug from

tche...@apache.org , thank you for that.

Dalibor has written in his blog how to monitor your issues in the JDK 
Bug System -

http://robilad.livejournal.com/139637.html.


We don't have serious benchmarks, but until now JDK8 has always been 
slower compared to JDK7.



Can you provide more details, log a bug ?

Rgds, Rory
We've only started with testing the Maven plugins together with JDK8, 
we could add some other projects as well.


thanks,

Robert

[1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVEN/Java+8+Upgrade
[2] https://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MJARSIGNER-30

Op Mon, 06 Jan 2014 12:16:33 +0100 schreef Rory O'Donnell Oracle, 
Dublin ireland rory.odonn...@oracle.com:



Hi Kristian,

Thank you for your comments.

On 01/ 3/14 02:12 PM, Kristian Rosenvold wrote:

We found the issue already, thanks for the bump in priority !

no problem.

The jdk issue tracker does not allow us much in the way of features
(like issue watching !)
Yes, there is room for improvement there. In the mean time Dalibor 
wrote

in his blog about tracking your issues
In The JDK Bug System: http://robilad.livejournal.com/139637.html


There is a comment I'd like to make about the issue comment of us
reporting this issue 6 months ago. 6 months ago was M7, labeled as
feature complete according to the JDK8 plan. Our code base is *huge*
and there's a fair amount of weird stuff going on, and I think most of
us on the maven team are reluctant to start testing with something
that is just feature complete.


I think Alan's comment was more wishful thinking, finding bugs early is
in everyone's interest.

Finding and reporting this *one* issue took quite some effort, since
we're usually talking about tests written for *other* purposes that
break; and they break in weird places  highly unexpected manners. So
realistically we're testing at the earliest level we're comfortable
with (which I find is M8-ish). Less complex projects are probably a
bit more risk-willing than us :)

I would love to discuss your testing with you in detail?


We have quite some momentum in our jdk8 testing now, and there's quite
a few of us who seem intent on verifying *everything*
in good time before GA.

Delighted to hear that!

Obviously, the later bugs are found the more likely they will get fixed
in an update release.


I know I'll be picking up the verification once JDK-8030781
https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8030781 gets released into
a nightly.

Thanks, Rory


Kristian








2014/1/3 Rory O'Donnell Oracle, Dublin Ireland
rory.odonn...@oracle.com mailto:rory.odonn...@oracle.com

Hi Kristian,

I am following sun bug 9009028,
https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8030781

Rgds,Rory


On 31/12/2013 20:38, Kristian Rosenvold wrote:

Been meaning to answer this mail for a few days, but I've been
far too busy skiing in the norwegian mountains :)

We have some fairly extensive tests and integration tests that
would, to a large extent, also function as a verification of jdk8
compatibility. Unfortunately most of them get stuck at sun bug
9009028, which I filed about a week ago. So while this bug is
open, it may hide other problems. So with my tester hat on; we
have one known bug that potentially hides interesting stuff.

Kristian



2013/12/30 Rory O'Donnell Oracle, Dublin Ireland
rory.odonn...@oracle.com mailto:rory.odonn...@oracle.com

Hi,

I am from the OpenJDK QA group at Oracle, and I'm trying to
get an idea about how much community
testing is happening on JDK 8 EA builds (either those
published by Oracle, or your own) and to encourage
more of it to happen see:

Re: JDK 8 Build 121 JDK 7 Update 60 build 02 are available on java.net

2014-01-16 Thread Rory O'Donnell Oracle, Dublin Ireland

Hi Robert/Tony,

Can you gives us an understanding of the impact to Maven of bug

https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8031572

Rgds,Rory
On 16/01/2014 11:13, Rory O'Donnell Oracle, Dublin Ireland wrote:

Hi Robert,

Any update on details on the performance issue  ?
Secondly , did you log a bug for the javadoc issues ?

Rgds, Rory
On 14/01/2014 13:21, Rory O'Donnell Oracle, Dublin Ireland wrote:

Hi Robert,

Comments below.

On 13/01/2014 19:36, Robert Scholte wrote:

Hi Rory,

The Apache Maven team has introduced a wiki page[1] to keep track of 
JDK8 specific issues.
These are results when we started to build+test all our plugins with 
JDK8.


We see that the javadoc executable has become stricter.
Especially the reference not found is tricky, since there's a good 
chance the sources are from a dependency, something we cannot 
change. The only workaround I could find was adding a 
excludePackageNames for the specific class, but this will exclude 
all classes of that package
Another issue with the javadoc executable is that the 
excludedocfilessubdir argument is ignored (on Win7). This seems to 
be regression.
Can you log a web bug for this please. let me know the Incident 
number and I can monitor it's

progress.


There is probably also regression in the jarsigner executable when 
verifying fails, see MJARSIGNER-30.


I noticed https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8031572 is logged 
via a web bug from

tche...@apache.org , thank you for that.

Dalibor has written in his blog how to monitor your issues in the JDK 
Bug System -

http://robilad.livejournal.com/139637.html.


We don't have serious benchmarks, but until now JDK8 has always been 
slower compared to JDK7.



Can you provide more details, log a bug ?

Rgds, Rory
We've only started with testing the Maven plugins together with 
JDK8, we could add some other projects as well.


thanks,

Robert

[1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVEN/Java+8+Upgrade
[2] https://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MJARSIGNER-30

Op Mon, 06 Jan 2014 12:16:33 +0100 schreef Rory O'Donnell Oracle, 
Dublin ireland rory.odonn...@oracle.com:



Hi Kristian,

Thank you for your comments.

On 01/ 3/14 02:12 PM, Kristian Rosenvold wrote:

We found the issue already, thanks for the bump in priority !

no problem.

The jdk issue tracker does not allow us much in the way of features
(like issue watching !)
Yes, there is room for improvement there. In the mean time Dalibor 
wrote

in his blog about tracking your issues
In The JDK Bug System: http://robilad.livejournal.com/139637.html


There is a comment I'd like to make about the issue comment of us
reporting this issue 6 months ago. 6 months ago was M7, labeled as
feature complete according to the JDK8 plan. Our code base is 
*huge*
and there's a fair amount of weird stuff going on, and I think 
most of

us on the maven team are reluctant to start testing with something
that is just feature complete.

I think Alan's comment was more wishful thinking, finding bugs 
early is

in everyone's interest.

Finding and reporting this *one* issue took quite some effort, since
we're usually talking about tests written for *other* purposes that
break; and they break in weird places  highly unexpected manners. So
realistically we're testing at the earliest level we're comfortable
with (which I find is M8-ish). Less complex projects are probably a
bit more risk-willing than us :)

I would love to discuss your testing with you in detail?


We have quite some momentum in our jdk8 testing now, and there's 
quite

a few of us who seem intent on verifying *everything*
in good time before GA.

Delighted to hear that!

Obviously, the later bugs are found the more likely they will get 
fixed

in an update release.


I know I'll be picking up the verification once JDK-8030781
https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8030781 gets released into
a nightly.

Thanks, Rory


Kristian








2014/1/3 Rory O'Donnell Oracle, Dublin Ireland
rory.odonn...@oracle.com mailto:rory.odonn...@oracle.com

Hi Kristian,

I am following sun bug 9009028,
https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8030781

Rgds,Rory


On 31/12/2013 20:38, Kristian Rosenvold wrote:

Been meaning to answer this mail for a few days, but I've been
far too busy skiing in the norwegian mountains :)

We have some fairly extensive tests and integration tests that
would, to a large extent, also function as a verification of 
jdk8

compatibility. Unfortunately most of them get stuck at sun bug
9009028, which I filed about a week ago. So while this bug is
open, it may hide other problems. So with my tester hat on; we
have one known bug that potentially hides interesting stuff.

Kristian



2013/12/30 Rory O'Donnell Oracle, Dublin Ireland
rory.odonn...@oracle.com mailto:rory.odonn...@oracle.com

Hi,

I am from the OpenJDK QA group at Oracle, and I'm trying to
get an idea about how much community

Re: JDK 8 Build 121 JDK 7 Update 60 build 02 are available on java.net

2014-01-16 Thread Tony Chemit
On Thu, 16 Jan 2014 14:04:58 +
Rory O'Donnell Oracle, Dublin Ireland rory.odonn...@oracle.com wrote:

 Hi Robert/Tony,
 
 Can you gives us an understanding of the impact to Maven of bug
 
 https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8031572

Hi Rory, 

Maybe just reordering jar entries will fix this if I cleary understand Weijun 
comment on the issue.

The bug was detected on a tampered jar so on a integration test so the impact 
should be low if people use *normal* jar.

I will try to reorder the jar entries of the tampered jar and come back to you 
just after.

Best regards,

tony.



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Re: JDK 8 Build 121 JDK 7 Update 60 build 02 are available on java.net

2014-01-16 Thread Rory O'Donnell Oracle, Dublin Ireland

Thanks Tony, I will update the bug when you send feedback.

Rgds,Rory

On 16/01/2014 14:27, Tony Chemit wrote:

On Thu, 16 Jan 2014 14:04:58 +
Rory O'Donnell Oracle, Dublin Ireland rory.odonn...@oracle.com wrote:


Hi Robert/Tony,

Can you gives us an understanding of the impact to Maven of bug

https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8031572

Hi Rory,

Maybe just reordering jar entries will fix this if I cleary understand Weijun 
comment on the issue.

The bug was detected on a tampered jar so on a integration test so the impact 
should be low if people use *normal* jar.

I will try to reorder the jar entries of the tampered jar and come back to you 
just after.

Best regards,

tony.





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Quality Engineering Manager
Oracle EMEA , Dublin, Ireland


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