Re: bin folder for executable files/scripts
On Mar 26, 2012, at 11:05 PM, Mansour Al Akeel wrote:
Using ant task is not so bad. I think it supports something like
daemons in the parallel task, where tomcat can be started in the
background.
another task from antconrib is forget
http://ant-contrib.sourceforge.net/tasks/tasks/forget.html
Mansour, this is interesting, thank you.
I think we can add a new task to run OFBiz as a separate process using the
spawn attribute:
target name=run-batch
description=This will start OFBiz in a separate process
java jar=ofbiz.jar fork=true spawn=true
jvmarg value=${memory.initial.param}/
jvmarg value=${pos.memory.max.param}/
jvmarg value=${memory.maxpermsize.param}/
sysproperty key=ofbiz.admin.port value=${ofbiz.admin.port}/
sysproperty key=ofbiz.admin.key value=${ofbiz.admin.key}/
/java
/target
Jacopo
Re: bin folder for executable files/scripts
Here is an update on this never-ending story for a small task :-) All my work is now back into the trunk: this means that all the executable scripts (*.sh and *.bat) are now under the tools folder. This means that from now on in trunk (and in future releases from 12.04 on) in order to run the scripts, assuming you are in the OFBiz home folder, you will have to: a) cd to the tools folder and then run the scripts as usual OR b) run the scripts specifying the tools path; for example ./tools/startofbiz.sh However there is a simpler way of starting a stopping OFBiz from the home folder (in all operating systems): 1) starting ofbiz: ant run 2) stopping ofbiz: ant stop The two commands above are essentially the same of the startofbiz/stopofiz.sh/bat versions. The OFBiz README file has been already updated to reflect these changes, so users will be informed. Now we need your help/input to complete this work: 1) please test the scripts, the ant versions and the ones moved under the tools folder (because we had to modify them to make them work from the new location), in your os/platform: we did some limited tests on Linux/OSX but it would be great to get more feedback (especially for the Windows versions) 2) what about renaming the ant run task into ant start? In my opinion it will be easier to have an ant start and an ant stop commands to manage the OFBiz instance 3) Hans copied the original version of the start and stop scripts for Linux/Unix (startofbiz.sh and stopofbiz.sh) back in the OFBiz home folder; Hans has provided several reasons for this but I will summarize here only the ones that (in my opinion) make sense (you can read the other thread if interested or Hans is free to add them here if he really thinks that what I have suppressed actually makes sense in this context): 3.a) backward compatibility for the Unix/Linux users: Linux users that are used at running the start and stop scripts from the home folder can still do this without having to cd to the tools folder (or use the tools/ prefix) or without having to switch to the ant equivalents 3.b) Hans preference would be to remove these duplicated scripts from the home folder and replace them with symlinks (and probably provide similar ones for Windows) to the scripts in the tools folder In my opinion adding the symlinks (or keeping the copies of the scripts in the home folder) for backward compatibility is not necessary... or at least it is something we could revisit/reconsider if people will start to complain. Even if it will not be terrible to have them in the home folder I think it somewhat defeats the original purpose of this change: have a cleaner home folder with as less files as possible (to give more visibility to README and License files). Of course old users will have to adjust to this but I don't expect it to be too difficult, especially if we improve our docs to help them use the ant versions more. I know this is somewhat trivial decision (and I am sorry to bother you) but it seems that Hans has a strong opinion on this and before giving up and letting him decide for all I thought it was good to check the general feeling of the community. This is all, thank you Jacopo On Mar 24, 2012, at 7:19 AM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote: Part of my changes has been reverted by Hans in rev. 1304679 and 1304687 (we are discussing this in another thread) but I would really appreciate if in the meantime you all could help to test my changes (before the revert). Thanks, Jacopo On Mar 23, 2012, at 3:15 PM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote: Jose, Price, thank you for your feedback, it really helps. Jose, I have modified the script according to your suggestions, thank you. I am going to commit the changes shortly. Thanks, Jacopo On Mar 23, 2012, at 11:43 AM, Prince Sewani wrote: Hi Jacopo, Although I'm not a windows user but yes it works fine from the tools folder on windows. Regards Prince From: Jacopo Cappellato jacopo.cappell...@hotwaxmedia.com To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 3:32 PM Subject: Re: bin folder for executable files/scripts Actually, the /d shouldn't be required: === echo off set OFBIZ_HOME=%0\..\..\ echo on cd %OFBIZ_HOME% %JAVA_HOME%\bin\java -Xms128M -Xmx512M -XX:MaxPermSize=512m -jar ofbiz.jar echo off === Thanks, Jacopo On Mar 23, 2012, at 10:57 AM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote: I did progress on this: I was able to move all the scripts to the tools folder; I didn't add the bin subfolder to it because the existing files in the tools folder are not used and can be removed: in this way we will have a tools folder containing all the platform dependent scripts. But now I need some help from Windows users: could you please try to create a startofbiz.bat file in the tools folder
Re: bin folder for executable files/scripts
for the Unix/Linux users: Linux users that are used at running the start and stop scripts from the home folder can still do this without having to cd to the tools folder (or use the tools/ prefix) or without having to switch to the ant equivalents 3.b) Hans preference would be to remove these duplicated scripts from the home folder and replace them with symlinks (and probably provide similar ones for Windows) to the scripts in the tools folder In my opinion adding the symlinks (or keeping the copies of the scripts in the home folder) for backward compatibility is not necessary... or at least it is something we could revisit/reconsider if people will start to complain. Even if it will not be terrible to have them in the home folder I think it somewhat defeats the original purpose of this change: have a cleaner home folder with as less files as possible (to give more visibility to README and License files). Of course old users will have to adjust to this but I don't expect it to be too difficult, especially if we improve our docs to help them use the ant versions more. I know this is somewhat trivial decision (and I am sorry to bother you) but it seems that Hans has a strong opinion on this and before giving up and letting him decide for all I thought it was good to check the general feeling of the community. This is all, thank you Jacopo On Mar 24, 2012, at 7:19 AM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote: Part of my changes has been reverted by Hans in rev. 1304679 and 1304687 (we are discussing this in another thread) but I would really appreciate if in the meantime you all could help to test my changes (before the revert). Thanks, Jacopo On Mar 23, 2012, at 3:15 PM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote: Jose, Price, thank you for your feedback, it really helps. Jose, I have modified the script according to your suggestions, thank you. I am going to commit the changes shortly. Thanks, Jacopo On Mar 23, 2012, at 11:43 AM, Prince Sewani wrote: Hi Jacopo, Although I'm not a windows user but yes it works fine from the tools folder on windows. Regards Prince From: Jacopo Cappellato jacopo.cappell...@hotwaxmedia.com To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 3:32 PM Subject: Re: bin folder for executable files/scripts Actually, the /d shouldn't be required: === echo off set OFBIZ_HOME=%0\..\..\ echo on cd %OFBIZ_HOME% %JAVA_HOME%\bin\java -Xms128M -Xmx512M -XX:MaxPermSize=512m -jar ofbiz.jar echo off === Thanks, Jacopo On Mar 23, 2012, at 10:57 AM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote: I did progress on this: I was able to move all the scripts to the tools folder; I didn't add the bin subfolder to it because the existing files in the tools folder are not used and can be removed: in this way we will have a tools folder containing all the platform dependent scripts. But now I need some help from Windows users: could you please try to create a startofbiz.bat file in the tools folder with the following content: === echo off set OFBIZ_HOME=%0\..\..\ echo on cd /d %OFBIZ_HOME% %JAVA_HOME%\bin\java -Xms128M -Xmx512M -XX:MaxPermSize=512m -jar ofbiz.jar echo off === Then you should try to run it from the home folder: tools\startorfbiz.bat and from the tools folder: cd tools startorfbiz.bat Both should work fine: I already did this work for the sh files but I couldn't test the above mechanism for Windows. I would really appreciate your feedback. Thanks, Jacopo On Mar 21, 2012, at 11:34 AM, Prince Sewani wrote: Well the 'bin' clashing with eclipse default is really a concern to being with, the learning curve is yet steep, and with to dos of IDE's as of now, everyone is pretty much acquainted. Also in-case we change it to 'bin' in the main folder, then there'll be an additional set of documentation required for that to help users on different Operating systems. Unless we go like opentaps (felt that on a few things) and then one is not really able to use it (Just a comment No offense). tools/bin sounds great, unless that also doesn't call of any other clash or so. Regards Prince From: Mansour Al Akeel mansour.alak...@gmail.com To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 4:13 PM Subject: Re: bin folder for executable files/scripts bin is good enough. On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 3:34 AM, Jacques Le Roux jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com wrote: Hi Jacopo, tools/bin sounds good to me Jacques From: Jacopo Cappellato jacopo.cappell...@hotwaxmedia.com Thanks everyone for the valuable comments! I am trying to finalize this thread: there seems to be consensus to move all the executable scripts into a folder to keep things organized. For the name
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copied the original version of the start and stop scripts for Linux/Unix (startofbiz.sh and stopofbiz.sh) back in the OFBiz home folder; Hans has provided several reasons for this but I will summarize here only the ones that (in my opinion) make sense (you can read the other thread if interested or Hans is free to add them here if he really thinks that what I have suppressed actually makes sense in this context): 3.a) backward compatibility for the Unix/Linux users: Linux users that are used at running the start and stop scripts from the home folder can still do this without having to cd to the tools folder (or use the tools/ prefix) or without having to switch to the ant equivalents 3.b) Hans preference would be to remove these duplicated scripts from the home folder and replace them with symlinks (and probably provide similar ones for Windows) to the scripts in the tools folder In my opinion adding the symlinks (or keeping the copies of the scripts in the home folder) for backward compatibility is not necessary... or at least it is something we could revisit/reconsider if people will start to complain. Even if it will not be terrible to have them in the home folder I think it somewhat defeats the original purpose of this change: have a cleaner home folder with as less files as possible (to give more visibility to README and License files). Of course old users will have to adjust to this but I don't expect it to be too difficult, especially if we improve our docs to help them use the ant versions more. I know this is somewhat trivial decision (and I am sorry to bother you) but it seems that Hans has a strong opinion on this and before giving up and letting him decide for all I thought it was good to check the general feeling of the community. This is all, thank you Jacopo On Mar 24, 2012, at 7:19 AM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote: Part of my changes has been reverted by Hans in rev. 1304679 and 1304687 (we are discussing this in another thread) but I would really appreciate if in the meantime you all could help to test my changes (before the revert). Thanks, Jacopo On Mar 23, 2012, at 3:15 PM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote: Jose, Price, thank you for your feedback, it really helps. Jose, I have modified the script according to your suggestions, thank you. I am going to commit the changes shortly. Thanks, Jacopo On Mar 23, 2012, at 11:43 AM, Prince Sewani wrote: Hi Jacopo, Although I'm not a windows user but yes it works fine from the tools folder on windows. Regards Prince From: Jacopo Cappellatojacopo.cappell...@hotwaxmedia.com To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 3:32 PM Subject: Re: bin folder for executable files/scripts Actually, the /d shouldn't be required: === echo off set OFBIZ_HOME=%0\..\..\ echo on cd %OFBIZ_HOME% %JAVA_HOME%\bin\java -Xms128M -Xmx512M -XX:MaxPermSize=512m -jar ofbiz.jar echo off === Thanks, Jacopo On Mar 23, 2012, at 10:57 AM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote: I did progress on this: I was able to move all the scripts to the tools folder; I didn't add the bin subfolder to it because the existing files in the tools folder are not used and can be removed: in this way we will have a tools folder containing all the platform dependent scripts. But now I need some help from Windows users: could you please try to create a startofbiz.bat file in the tools folder with the following content: === echo off set OFBIZ_HOME=%0\..\..\ echo on cd /d %OFBIZ_HOME% %JAVA_HOME%\bin\java -Xms128M -Xmx512M -XX:MaxPermSize=512m -jar ofbiz.jar echo off === Then you should try to run it from the home folder: tools\startorfbiz.bat and from the tools folder: cd tools startorfbiz.bat Both should work fine: I already did this work for the sh files but I couldn't test the above mechanism for Windows. I would really appreciate your feedback. Thanks, Jacopo On Mar 21, 2012, at 11:34 AM, Prince Sewani wrote: Well the 'bin' clashing with eclipse default is really a concern to being with, the learning curve is yet steep, and with to dos of IDE's as of now, everyone is pretty much acquainted. Also in-case we change it to 'bin' in the main folder, then there'll be an additional set of documentation required for that to help users on different Operating systems. Unless we go like opentaps (felt that on a few things) and then one is not really able to use it (Just a comment No offense). tools/bin sounds great, unless that also doesn't call of any other clash or so. Regards Prince From: Mansour Al Akeelmansour.alak...@gmail.com To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 4:13 PM Subject: Re: bin folder for executable files/scripts bin is good enough. On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 3:34 AM, Jacques Le Roux
Re: bin folder for executable files/scripts
to modify them to make them work from the new location), in your os/platform: we did some limited tests on Linux/OSX but it would be great to get more feedback (especially for the Windows versions) 2) what about renaming the ant run task into ant start? In my opinion it will be easier to have an ant start and an ant stop commands to manage the OFBiz instance 3) Hans copied the original version of the start and stop scripts for Linux/Unix (startofbiz.sh and stopofbiz.sh) back in the OFBiz home folder; Hans has provided several reasons for this but I will summarize here only the ones that (in my opinion) make sense (you can read the other thread if interested or Hans is free to add them here if he really thinks that what I have suppressed actually makes sense in this context): 3.a) backward compatibility for the Unix/Linux users: Linux users that are used at running the start and stop scripts from the home folder can still do this without having to cd to the tools folder (or use the tools/ prefix) or without having to switch to the ant equivalents 3.b) Hans preference would be to remove these duplicated scripts from the home folder and replace them with symlinks (and probably provide similar ones for Windows) to the scripts in the tools folder In my opinion adding the symlinks (or keeping the copies of the scripts in the home folder) for backward compatibility is not necessary... or at least it is something we could revisit/reconsider if people will start to complain. Even if it will not be terrible to have them in the home folder I think it somewhat defeats the original purpose of this change: have a cleaner home folder with as less files as possible (to give more visibility to README and License files). Of course old users will have to adjust to this but I don't expect it to be too difficult, especially if we improve our docs to help them use the ant versions more. I know this is somewhat trivial decision (and I am sorry to bother you) but it seems that Hans has a strong opinion on this and before giving up and letting him decide for all I thought it was good to check the general feeling of the community. This is all, thank you Jacopo On Mar 24, 2012, at 7:19 AM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote: Part of my changes has been reverted by Hans in rev. 1304679 and 1304687 (we are discussing this in another thread) but I would really appreciate if in the meantime you all could help to test my changes (before the revert). Thanks, Jacopo On Mar 23, 2012, at 3:15 PM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote: Jose, Price, thank you for your feedback, it really helps. Jose, I have modified the script according to your suggestions, thank you. I am going to commit the changes shortly. Thanks, Jacopo On Mar 23, 2012, at 11:43 AM, Prince Sewani wrote: Hi Jacopo, Although I'm not a windows user but yes it works fine from the tools folder on windows. Regards Prince From: Jacopo Cappellatojacopo.cappell...@hotwaxmedia.com To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 3:32 PM Subject: Re: bin folder for executable files/scripts Actually, the /d shouldn't be required: === echo off set OFBIZ_HOME=%0\..\..\ echo on cd %OFBIZ_HOME% %JAVA_HOME%\bin\java -Xms128M -Xmx512M -XX:MaxPermSize=512m -jar ofbiz.jar echo off === Thanks, Jacopo On Mar 23, 2012, at 10:57 AM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote: I did progress on this: I was able to move all the scripts to the tools folder; I didn't add the bin subfolder to it because the existing files in the tools folder are not used and can be removed: in this way we will have a tools folder containing all the platform dependent scripts. But now I need some help from Windows users: could you please try to create a startofbiz.bat file in the tools folder with the following content: === echo off set OFBIZ_HOME=%0\..\..\ echo on cd /d %OFBIZ_HOME% %JAVA_HOME%\bin\java -Xms128M -Xmx512M -XX:MaxPermSize=512m -jar ofbiz.jar echo off === Then you should try to run it from the home folder: tools\startorfbiz.bat and from the tools folder: cd tools startorfbiz.bat Both should work fine: I already did this work for the sh files but I couldn't test the above mechanism for Windows. I would really appreciate your feedback. Thanks, Jacopo On Mar 21, 2012, at 11:34 AM, Prince Sewani wrote: Well the 'bin' clashing with eclipse default is really a concern to being with, the learning curve is yet steep, and with to dos of IDE's as of now, everyone is pretty much acquainted. Also in-case we change it to 'bin' in the main folder, then there'll be an additional set of documentation required for that to help users on different
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On Mar 26, 2012, at 11:05 PM, Mansour Al Akeel wrote: [...] My only concern is more about politics involved in making future decisions related to the progress of ofbiz. If we have to go through this to change the location of a script, what are we going to do, when and if we (the community) decided to do a major change ?!! This is exactly how I feel Jacopo. This is actually the main problem that I am determined to fix: the problem is real and the consequence of it is evident in the status of the OFBiz codebase. The situation will greatly improve when committers will understand that we *have* to use our commit rights to serve the OFBiz community by implementing what is decided in the OFBiz dev list (and not to freely contribute our own code to the project). In the past this didn't happen also because there was not a common strategy for the project and so every contribution was good for the project and every committer was authorized to contribute what she/he wanted... this was an anomaly that we are now fixing but of course we have to face with the resistance from committers that were used to do what they wanted to without constraints. But I am very determined and confident that this will soon be fixed because committers can't use the power, that the OFBiz PMC gave them to serve the project, to block or refrain what the community decided and so we will have to get comfortable with the new situation (and the OFBiz PMC will oversight this situation). Kind regards, Jacopo
Re: bin folder for executable files/scripts
Part of my changes has been reverted by Hans in rev. 1304679 and 1304687 (we are discussing this in another thread) but I would really appreciate if in the meantime you all could help to test my changes (before the revert). Thanks, Jacopo On Mar 23, 2012, at 3:15 PM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote: Jose, Price, thank you for your feedback, it really helps. Jose, I have modified the script according to your suggestions, thank you. I am going to commit the changes shortly. Thanks, Jacopo On Mar 23, 2012, at 11:43 AM, Prince Sewani wrote: Hi Jacopo, Although I'm not a windows user but yes it works fine from the tools folder on windows. Regards Prince From: Jacopo Cappellato jacopo.cappell...@hotwaxmedia.com To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 3:32 PM Subject: Re: bin folder for executable files/scripts Actually, the /d shouldn't be required: === echo off set OFBIZ_HOME=%0\..\..\ echo on cd %OFBIZ_HOME% %JAVA_HOME%\bin\java -Xms128M -Xmx512M -XX:MaxPermSize=512m -jar ofbiz.jar echo off === Thanks, Jacopo On Mar 23, 2012, at 10:57 AM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote: I did progress on this: I was able to move all the scripts to the tools folder; I didn't add the bin subfolder to it because the existing files in the tools folder are not used and can be removed: in this way we will have a tools folder containing all the platform dependent scripts. But now I need some help from Windows users: could you please try to create a startofbiz.bat file in the tools folder with the following content: === echo off set OFBIZ_HOME=%0\..\..\ echo on cd /d %OFBIZ_HOME% %JAVA_HOME%\bin\java -Xms128M -Xmx512M -XX:MaxPermSize=512m -jar ofbiz.jar echo off === Then you should try to run it from the home folder: tools\startorfbiz.bat and from the tools folder: cd tools startorfbiz.bat Both should work fine: I already did this work for the sh files but I couldn't test the above mechanism for Windows. I would really appreciate your feedback. Thanks, Jacopo On Mar 21, 2012, at 11:34 AM, Prince Sewani wrote: Well the 'bin' clashing with eclipse default is really a concern to being with, the learning curve is yet steep, and with to dos of IDE's as of now, everyone is pretty much acquainted. Also in-case we change it to 'bin' in the main folder, then there'll be an additional set of documentation required for that to help users on different Operating systems. Unless we go like opentaps (felt that on a few things) and then one is not really able to use it (Just a comment No offense). tools/bin sounds great, unless that also doesn't call of any other clash or so. Regards Prince From: Mansour Al Akeel mansour.alak...@gmail.com To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 4:13 PM Subject: Re: bin folder for executable files/scripts bin is good enough. On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 3:34 AM, Jacques Le Roux jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com wrote: Hi Jacopo, tools/bin sounds good to me Jacques From: Jacopo Cappellato jacopo.cappell...@hotwaxmedia.com Thanks everyone for the valuable comments! I am trying to finalize this thread: there seems to be consensus to move all the executable scripts into a folder to keep things organized. For the name of the folder: * some of you think that the bin (as I originally suggested) should be used because it is often used for this purpose * some of you are worried that this could interfere with some commonly used IDEs (e.g. Eclipse) that use the bin folder for output and need to be configured to use a different standard name After reviewing what we have now in OFBiz I am wondering if we could use the already existing tools folder; its current layout is: tools/api-java16 tools/src option a: add all the executables to tools/ folder directly option b: create a subfolder tools/bin and add all the executables there What do you think? Jacopo On Feb 29, 2012, at 5:45 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: Then we could recommend to name .bin for instance But I wonder if this will not be a source of problem for newbies... And also for Windows users, bin is not a standard name at all Jacques From: Adrian Crum adrian.c...@sandglass-software.com That's fine with me. We just need to update the Eclipse configuration files. -Adrian On 2/29/2012 3:20 PM, J. Eckard wrote: I think that eclipse / eclipse users should have to accommodate the directory structure of OFBiz, not the other way around. On Feb 29, 2012, at 9:58 AM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote: Thanks for the feedback! Any suggestion for the name of the folder? I was hoping to use a standard name, that is why I
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I did progress on this: I was able to move all the scripts to the tools folder; I didn't add the bin subfolder to it because the existing files in the tools folder are not used and can be removed: in this way we will have a tools folder containing all the platform dependent scripts. But now I need some help from Windows users: could you please try to create a startofbiz.bat file in the tools folder with the following content: === echo off set OFBIZ_HOME=%0\..\..\ echo on cd /d %OFBIZ_HOME% %JAVA_HOME%\bin\java -Xms128M -Xmx512M -XX:MaxPermSize=512m -jar ofbiz.jar echo off === Then you should try to run it from the home folder: tools\startorfbiz.bat and from the tools folder: cd tools startorfbiz.bat Both should work fine: I already did this work for the sh files but I couldn't test the above mechanism for Windows. I would really appreciate your feedback. Thanks, Jacopo On Mar 21, 2012, at 11:34 AM, Prince Sewani wrote: Well the 'bin' clashing with eclipse default is really a concern to being with, the learning curve is yet steep, and with to dos of IDE's as of now, everyone is pretty much acquainted. Also in-case we change it to 'bin' in the main folder, then there'll be an additional set of documentation required for that to help users on different Operating systems. Unless we go like opentaps (felt that on a few things) and then one is not really able to use it (Just a comment No offense). tools/bin sounds great, unless that also doesn't call of any other clash or so. Regards Prince From: Mansour Al Akeel mansour.alak...@gmail.com To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 4:13 PM Subject: Re: bin folder for executable files/scripts bin is good enough. On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 3:34 AM, Jacques Le Roux jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com wrote: Hi Jacopo, tools/bin sounds good to me Jacques From: Jacopo Cappellato jacopo.cappell...@hotwaxmedia.com Thanks everyone for the valuable comments! I am trying to finalize this thread: there seems to be consensus to move all the executable scripts into a folder to keep things organized. For the name of the folder: * some of you think that the bin (as I originally suggested) should be used because it is often used for this purpose * some of you are worried that this could interfere with some commonly used IDEs (e.g. Eclipse) that use the bin folder for output and need to be configured to use a different standard name After reviewing what we have now in OFBiz I am wondering if we could use the already existing tools folder; its current layout is: tools/api-java16 tools/src option a: add all the executables to tools/ folder directly option b: create a subfolder tools/bin and add all the executables there What do you think? Jacopo On Feb 29, 2012, at 5:45 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: Then we could recommend to name .bin for instance But I wonder if this will not be a source of problem for newbies... And also for Windows users, bin is not a standard name at all Jacques From: Adrian Crum adrian.c...@sandglass-software.com That's fine with me. We just need to update the Eclipse configuration files. -Adrian On 2/29/2012 3:20 PM, J. Eckard wrote: I think that eclipse / eclipse users should have to accommodate the directory structure of OFBiz, not the other way around. On Feb 29, 2012, at 9:58 AM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote: Thanks for the feedback! Any suggestion for the name of the folder? I was hoping to use a standard name, that is why I initially proposed the bin folder... but since that is not an option we will have to think to something else (unless we use the existing tools folder but I am not sure about the intended usage of that). Jacopo On Feb 27, 2012, at 8:45 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: +1 Jacques From: Adrian Crumadrian.c...@sandglass-software.com Sounds great, but don't use bin - that folder is created by Eclipse and it is in the SVN ignore list. -Adrian On 2/27/2012 7:10 PM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote: The number of executable files (*.sh and *bat) in the OFBiz home folder is rather big: what if we create a bin folder and we move all of them there? In this way users will have a place where they will find all the executable files only and the main folder will be cleaner. Jacopo
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Actually, the /d shouldn't be required: === echo off set OFBIZ_HOME=%0\..\..\ echo on cd %OFBIZ_HOME% %JAVA_HOME%\bin\java -Xms128M -Xmx512M -XX:MaxPermSize=512m -jar ofbiz.jar echo off === Thanks, Jacopo On Mar 23, 2012, at 10:57 AM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote: I did progress on this: I was able to move all the scripts to the tools folder; I didn't add the bin subfolder to it because the existing files in the tools folder are not used and can be removed: in this way we will have a tools folder containing all the platform dependent scripts. But now I need some help from Windows users: could you please try to create a startofbiz.bat file in the tools folder with the following content: === echo off set OFBIZ_HOME=%0\..\..\ echo on cd /d %OFBIZ_HOME% %JAVA_HOME%\bin\java -Xms128M -Xmx512M -XX:MaxPermSize=512m -jar ofbiz.jar echo off === Then you should try to run it from the home folder: tools\startorfbiz.bat and from the tools folder: cd tools startorfbiz.bat Both should work fine: I already did this work for the sh files but I couldn't test the above mechanism for Windows. I would really appreciate your feedback. Thanks, Jacopo On Mar 21, 2012, at 11:34 AM, Prince Sewani wrote: Well the 'bin' clashing with eclipse default is really a concern to being with, the learning curve is yet steep, and with to dos of IDE's as of now, everyone is pretty much acquainted. Also in-case we change it to 'bin' in the main folder, then there'll be an additional set of documentation required for that to help users on different Operating systems. Unless we go like opentaps (felt that on a few things) and then one is not really able to use it (Just a comment No offense). tools/bin sounds great, unless that also doesn't call of any other clash or so. Regards Prince From: Mansour Al Akeel mansour.alak...@gmail.com To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 4:13 PM Subject: Re: bin folder for executable files/scripts bin is good enough. On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 3:34 AM, Jacques Le Roux jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com wrote: Hi Jacopo, tools/bin sounds good to me Jacques From: Jacopo Cappellato jacopo.cappell...@hotwaxmedia.com Thanks everyone for the valuable comments! I am trying to finalize this thread: there seems to be consensus to move all the executable scripts into a folder to keep things organized. For the name of the folder: * some of you think that the bin (as I originally suggested) should be used because it is often used for this purpose * some of you are worried that this could interfere with some commonly used IDEs (e.g. Eclipse) that use the bin folder for output and need to be configured to use a different standard name After reviewing what we have now in OFBiz I am wondering if we could use the already existing tools folder; its current layout is: tools/api-java16 tools/src option a: add all the executables to tools/ folder directly option b: create a subfolder tools/bin and add all the executables there What do you think? Jacopo On Feb 29, 2012, at 5:45 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: Then we could recommend to name .bin for instance But I wonder if this will not be a source of problem for newbies... And also for Windows users, bin is not a standard name at all Jacques From: Adrian Crum adrian.c...@sandglass-software.com That's fine with me. We just need to update the Eclipse configuration files. -Adrian On 2/29/2012 3:20 PM, J. Eckard wrote: I think that eclipse / eclipse users should have to accommodate the directory structure of OFBiz, not the other way around. On Feb 29, 2012, at 9:58 AM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote: Thanks for the feedback! Any suggestion for the name of the folder? I was hoping to use a standard name, that is why I initially proposed the bin folder... but since that is not an option we will have to think to something else (unless we use the existing tools folder but I am not sure about the intended usage of that). Jacopo On Feb 27, 2012, at 8:45 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: +1 Jacques From: Adrian Crumadrian.c...@sandglass-software.com Sounds great, but don't use bin - that folder is created by Eclipse and it is in the SVN ignore list. -Adrian On 2/27/2012 7:10 PM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote: The number of executable files (*.sh and *bat) in the OFBiz home folder is rather big: what if we create a bin folder and we move all of them there? In this way users will have a place where they will find all the executable files only and the main folder will be cleaner. Jacopo
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Hi Jacopo! your script works, but I think that more correct one will be: === echo off %~d0 set OFBIZ_HOME=%~p0..\ echo on cd %OFBIZ_HOME% %JAVA_HOME%\bin\java -Xms128M -Xmx512M -XX:MaxPermSize=512m -jar ofbiz.jar echo off === wich produces: D:\Java\workspace2\ofbiztools\startofbiz.bat D:\Java\workspace2\ofbizecho off D:\Java\workspace2\ofbizcd \Java\workspace2\ofbiz\tools\..\ D:\Java\workspace2\ofbizREM D:\Java\jdk1.6.0_29_i586\bin\java -Xms128M -Xmx512M -XX:MaxPermSize=512m -jar ofbiz.jar D:\Java\workspace2\ofbizecho off and D:\Java\workspace2\ofbiz\toolsstartofbiz.bat D:\Java\workspace2\ofbiz\toolsecho off D:\Java\workspace2\ofbiz\toolscd \Java\workspace2\ofbiz\tools\..\ D:\Java\workspace2\ofbizREM D:\Java\jdk1.6.0_29_i586\bin\java -Xms128M -Xmx512M -XX:MaxPermSize=512m -jar ofbiz.jar D:\Java\workspace2\ofbizecho off With yours, the cd command is pretty ugly (note the filename inline) even it works (not from another drive letter): D:\Java\workspace2\ofbiztools\startofbiz.bat D:\Java\workspace2\ofbizecho off D:\Java\workspace2\ofbizcd tools\startofbiz.bat\..\..\ D:\Java\workspace2\ofbizREM D:\Java\jdk1.6.0_29_i586\bin\java -Xms128M -Xmx512M -XX:MaxPermSize=512m -jar ofbiz.jar D:\Java\workspace2\ofbizecho off Thats because %0 returns the script name but %~p0 returns the path portion of the command. Also note that I added one more line: %~d0 That is to ensure that it will work if called from a diferent drive letter (nothing to do on Linux): C:\Windows\System32D:\Java\workspace2\ofbiz\tools\startofbiz.bat C:\Windows\System32echo off D:\Java\workspace2\ofbizcd \Java\workspace2\ofbiz\tools\..\ D:\Java\workspace2\ofbizREM D:\Java\jdk1.6.0_29_i586\bin\java -Xms128M -Xmx512M -XX:MaxPermSize=512m -jar ofbiz.jar D:\Java\workspace2\ofbizecho off Someone else could test and report? ThankU!! Jose F. - Mensaje original - De: Jacopo Cappellato jacopo.cappell...@hotwaxmedia.com Para: dev@ofbiz.apache.org Enviados: Viernes, 23 de Marzo 2012 11:02:16 Asunto: Re: bin folder for executable files/scripts Actually, the /d shouldn't be required: === echo off set OFBIZ_HOME=%0\..\..\ echo on cd %OFBIZ_HOME% %JAVA_HOME%\bin\java -Xms128M -Xmx512M -XX:MaxPermSize=512m -jar ofbiz.jar echo off === Thanks, Jacopo On Mar 23, 2012, at 10:57 AM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote: I did progress on this: I was able to move all the scripts to the tools folder; I didn't add the bin subfolder to it because the existing files in the tools folder are not used and can be removed: in this way we will have a tools folder containing all the platform dependent scripts. But now I need some help from Windows users: could you please try to create a startofbiz.bat file in the tools folder with the following content: === echo off set OFBIZ_HOME=%0\..\..\ echo on cd /d %OFBIZ_HOME% %JAVA_HOME%\bin\java -Xms128M -Xmx512M -XX:MaxPermSize=512m -jar ofbiz.jar echo off === Then you should try to run it from the home folder: tools\startorfbiz.bat and from the tools folder: cd tools startorfbiz.bat Both should work fine: I already did this work for the sh files but I couldn't test the above mechanism for Windows. I would really appreciate your feedback. Thanks, Jacopo On Mar 21, 2012, at 11:34 AM, Prince Sewani wrote: Well the 'bin' clashing with eclipse default is really a concern to being with, the learning curve is yet steep, and with to dos of IDE's as of now, everyone is pretty much acquainted. Also in-case we change it to 'bin' in the main folder, then there'll be an additional set of documentation required for that to help users on different Operating systems. Unless we go like opentaps (felt that on a few things) and then one is not really able to use it (Just a comment No offense). tools/bin sounds great, unless that also doesn't call of any other clash or so. Regards Prince From: Mansour Al Akeel mansour.alak...@gmail.com To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 4:13 PM Subject: Re: bin folder for executable files/scripts bin is good enough. On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 3:34 AM, Jacques Le Roux jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com wrote: Hi Jacopo, tools/bin sounds good to me Jacques From: Jacopo Cappellato jacopo.cappell...@hotwaxmedia.com Thanks everyone for the valuable comments! I am trying to finalize this thread: there seems to be consensus to move all the executable scripts into a folder to keep things organized. For the name of the folder: * some of you think that the bin (as I originally suggested) should be used because it is often used
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Hi Jacopo, Although I'm not a windows user but yes it works fine from the tools folder on windows. Regards Prince From: Jacopo Cappellato jacopo.cappell...@hotwaxmedia.com To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 3:32 PM Subject: Re: bin folder for executable files/scripts Actually, the /d shouldn't be required: === echo off set OFBIZ_HOME=%0\..\..\ echo on cd %OFBIZ_HOME% %JAVA_HOME%\bin\java -Xms128M -Xmx512M -XX:MaxPermSize=512m -jar ofbiz.jar echo off === Thanks, Jacopo On Mar 23, 2012, at 10:57 AM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote: I did progress on this: I was able to move all the scripts to the tools folder; I didn't add the bin subfolder to it because the existing files in the tools folder are not used and can be removed: in this way we will have a tools folder containing all the platform dependent scripts. But now I need some help from Windows users: could you please try to create a startofbiz.bat file in the tools folder with the following content: === echo off set OFBIZ_HOME=%0\..\..\ echo on cd /d %OFBIZ_HOME% %JAVA_HOME%\bin\java -Xms128M -Xmx512M -XX:MaxPermSize=512m -jar ofbiz.jar echo off === Then you should try to run it from the home folder: tools\startorfbiz.bat and from the tools folder: cd tools startorfbiz.bat Both should work fine: I already did this work for the sh files but I couldn't test the above mechanism for Windows. I would really appreciate your feedback. Thanks, Jacopo On Mar 21, 2012, at 11:34 AM, Prince Sewani wrote: Well the 'bin' clashing with eclipse default is really a concern to being with, the learning curve is yet steep, and with to dos of IDE's as of now, everyone is pretty much acquainted. Also in-case we change it to 'bin' in the main folder, then there'll be an additional set of documentation required for that to help users on different Operating systems. Unless we go like opentaps (felt that on a few things) and then one is not really able to use it (Just a comment No offense). tools/bin sounds great, unless that also doesn't call of any other clash or so. Regards Prince From: Mansour Al Akeel mansour.alak...@gmail.com To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 4:13 PM Subject: Re: bin folder for executable files/scripts bin is good enough. On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 3:34 AM, Jacques Le Roux jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com wrote: Hi Jacopo, tools/bin sounds good to me Jacques From: Jacopo Cappellato jacopo.cappell...@hotwaxmedia.com Thanks everyone for the valuable comments! I am trying to finalize this thread: there seems to be consensus to move all the executable scripts into a folder to keep things organized. For the name of the folder: * some of you think that the bin (as I originally suggested) should be used because it is often used for this purpose * some of you are worried that this could interfere with some commonly used IDEs (e.g. Eclipse) that use the bin folder for output and need to be configured to use a different standard name After reviewing what we have now in OFBiz I am wondering if we could use the already existing tools folder; its current layout is: tools/api-java16 tools/src option a: add all the executables to tools/ folder directly option b: create a subfolder tools/bin and add all the executables there What do you think? Jacopo On Feb 29, 2012, at 5:45 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: Then we could recommend to name .bin for instance But I wonder if this will not be a source of problem for newbies... And also for Windows users, bin is not a standard name at all Jacques From: Adrian Crum adrian.c...@sandglass-software.com That's fine with me. We just need to update the Eclipse configuration files. -Adrian On 2/29/2012 3:20 PM, J. Eckard wrote: I think that eclipse / eclipse users should have to accommodate the directory structure of OFBiz, not the other way around. On Feb 29, 2012, at 9:58 AM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote: Thanks for the feedback! Any suggestion for the name of the folder? I was hoping to use a standard name, that is why I initially proposed the bin folder... but since that is not an option we will have to think to something else (unless we use the existing tools folder but I am not sure about the intended usage of that). Jacopo On Feb 27, 2012, at 8:45 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: +1 Jacques From: Adrian Crumadrian.c...@sandglass-software.com Sounds great, but don't use bin - that folder is created by Eclipse and it is in the SVN ignore list. -Adrian On 2/27/2012 7:10 PM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote: The number of executable files (*.sh and *bat) in the OFBiz home folder
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Jose, Price, thank you for your feedback, it really helps. Jose, I have modified the script according to your suggestions, thank you. I am going to commit the changes shortly. Thanks, Jacopo On Mar 23, 2012, at 11:43 AM, Prince Sewani wrote: Hi Jacopo, Although I'm not a windows user but yes it works fine from the tools folder on windows. Regards Prince From: Jacopo Cappellato jacopo.cappell...@hotwaxmedia.com To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 3:32 PM Subject: Re: bin folder for executable files/scripts Actually, the /d shouldn't be required: === echo off set OFBIZ_HOME=%0\..\..\ echo on cd %OFBIZ_HOME% %JAVA_HOME%\bin\java -Xms128M -Xmx512M -XX:MaxPermSize=512m -jar ofbiz.jar echo off === Thanks, Jacopo On Mar 23, 2012, at 10:57 AM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote: I did progress on this: I was able to move all the scripts to the tools folder; I didn't add the bin subfolder to it because the existing files in the tools folder are not used and can be removed: in this way we will have a tools folder containing all the platform dependent scripts. But now I need some help from Windows users: could you please try to create a startofbiz.bat file in the tools folder with the following content: === echo off set OFBIZ_HOME=%0\..\..\ echo on cd /d %OFBIZ_HOME% %JAVA_HOME%\bin\java -Xms128M -Xmx512M -XX:MaxPermSize=512m -jar ofbiz.jar echo off === Then you should try to run it from the home folder: tools\startorfbiz.bat and from the tools folder: cd tools startorfbiz.bat Both should work fine: I already did this work for the sh files but I couldn't test the above mechanism for Windows. I would really appreciate your feedback. Thanks, Jacopo On Mar 21, 2012, at 11:34 AM, Prince Sewani wrote: Well the 'bin' clashing with eclipse default is really a concern to being with, the learning curve is yet steep, and with to dos of IDE's as of now, everyone is pretty much acquainted. Also in-case we change it to 'bin' in the main folder, then there'll be an additional set of documentation required for that to help users on different Operating systems. Unless we go like opentaps (felt that on a few things) and then one is not really able to use it (Just a comment No offense). tools/bin sounds great, unless that also doesn't call of any other clash or so. Regards Prince From: Mansour Al Akeel mansour.alak...@gmail.com To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 4:13 PM Subject: Re: bin folder for executable files/scripts bin is good enough. On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 3:34 AM, Jacques Le Roux jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com wrote: Hi Jacopo, tools/bin sounds good to me Jacques From: Jacopo Cappellato jacopo.cappell...@hotwaxmedia.com Thanks everyone for the valuable comments! I am trying to finalize this thread: there seems to be consensus to move all the executable scripts into a folder to keep things organized. For the name of the folder: * some of you think that the bin (as I originally suggested) should be used because it is often used for this purpose * some of you are worried that this could interfere with some commonly used IDEs (e.g. Eclipse) that use the bin folder for output and need to be configured to use a different standard name After reviewing what we have now in OFBiz I am wondering if we could use the already existing tools folder; its current layout is: tools/api-java16 tools/src option a: add all the executables to tools/ folder directly option b: create a subfolder tools/bin and add all the executables there What do you think? Jacopo On Feb 29, 2012, at 5:45 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: Then we could recommend to name .bin for instance But I wonder if this will not be a source of problem for newbies... And also for Windows users, bin is not a standard name at all Jacques From: Adrian Crum adrian.c...@sandglass-software.com That's fine with me. We just need to update the Eclipse configuration files. -Adrian On 2/29/2012 3:20 PM, J. Eckard wrote: I think that eclipse / eclipse users should have to accommodate the directory structure of OFBiz, not the other way around. On Feb 29, 2012, at 9:58 AM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote: Thanks for the feedback! Any suggestion for the name of the folder? I was hoping to use a standard name, that is why I initially proposed the bin folder... but since that is not an option we will have to think to something else (unless we use the existing tools folder but I am not sure about the intended usage of that). Jacopo On Feb 27, 2012, at 8:45 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: +1 Jacques From: Adrian
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Well the 'bin' clashing with eclipse default is really a concern to being with, the learning curve is yet steep, and with to dos of IDE's as of now, everyone is pretty much acquainted. Also in-case we change it to 'bin' in the main folder, then there'll be an additional set of documentation required for that to help users on different Operating systems. Unless we go like opentaps (felt that on a few things) and then one is not really able to use it (Just a comment No offense). tools/bin sounds great, unless that also doesn't call of any other clash or so. Regards Prince From: Mansour Al Akeel mansour.alak...@gmail.com To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 4:13 PM Subject: Re: bin folder for executable files/scripts bin is good enough. On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 3:34 AM, Jacques Le Roux jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com wrote: Hi Jacopo, tools/bin sounds good to me Jacques From: Jacopo Cappellato jacopo.cappell...@hotwaxmedia.com Thanks everyone for the valuable comments! I am trying to finalize this thread: there seems to be consensus to move all the executable scripts into a folder to keep things organized. For the name of the folder: * some of you think that the bin (as I originally suggested) should be used because it is often used for this purpose * some of you are worried that this could interfere with some commonly used IDEs (e.g. Eclipse) that use the bin folder for output and need to be configured to use a different standard name After reviewing what we have now in OFBiz I am wondering if we could use the already existing tools folder; its current layout is: tools/api-java16 tools/src option a: add all the executables to tools/ folder directly option b: create a subfolder tools/bin and add all the executables there What do you think? Jacopo On Feb 29, 2012, at 5:45 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: Then we could recommend to name .bin for instance But I wonder if this will not be a source of problem for newbies... And also for Windows users, bin is not a standard name at all Jacques From: Adrian Crum adrian.c...@sandglass-software.com That's fine with me. We just need to update the Eclipse configuration files. -Adrian On 2/29/2012 3:20 PM, J. Eckard wrote: I think that eclipse / eclipse users should have to accommodate the directory structure of OFBiz, not the other way around. On Feb 29, 2012, at 9:58 AM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote: Thanks for the feedback! Any suggestion for the name of the folder? I was hoping to use a standard name, that is why I initially proposed the bin folder... but since that is not an option we will have to think to something else (unless we use the existing tools folder but I am not sure about the intended usage of that). Jacopo On Feb 27, 2012, at 8:45 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: +1 Jacques From: Adrian Crumadrian.c...@sandglass-software.com Sounds great, but don't use bin - that folder is created by Eclipse and it is in the SVN ignore list. -Adrian On 2/27/2012 7:10 PM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote: The number of executable files (*.sh and *bat) in the OFBiz home folder is rather big: what if we create a bin folder and we move all of them there? In this way users will have a place where they will find all the executable files only and the main folder will be cleaner. Jacopo
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Hi Jacopo, tools/bin sounds good to me Jacques From: Jacopo Cappellato jacopo.cappell...@hotwaxmedia.com Thanks everyone for the valuable comments! I am trying to finalize this thread: there seems to be consensus to move all the executable scripts into a folder to keep things organized. For the name of the folder: * some of you think that the bin (as I originally suggested) should be used because it is often used for this purpose * some of you are worried that this could interfere with some commonly used IDEs (e.g. Eclipse) that use the bin folder for output and need to be configured to use a different standard name After reviewing what we have now in OFBiz I am wondering if we could use the already existing tools folder; its current layout is: tools/api-java16 tools/src option a: add all the executables to tools/ folder directly option b: create a subfolder tools/bin and add all the executables there What do you think? Jacopo On Feb 29, 2012, at 5:45 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: Then we could recommend to name .bin for instance But I wonder if this will not be a source of problem for newbies... And also for Windows users, bin is not a standard name at all Jacques From: Adrian Crum adrian.c...@sandglass-software.com That's fine with me. We just need to update the Eclipse configuration files. -Adrian On 2/29/2012 3:20 PM, J. Eckard wrote: I think that eclipse / eclipse users should have to accommodate the directory structure of OFBiz, not the other way around. On Feb 29, 2012, at 9:58 AM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote: Thanks for the feedback! Any suggestion for the name of the folder? I was hoping to use a standard name, that is why I initially proposed the bin folder... but since that is not an option we will have to think to something else (unless we use the existing tools folder but I am not sure about the intended usage of that). Jacopo On Feb 27, 2012, at 8:45 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: +1 Jacques From: Adrian Crumadrian.c...@sandglass-software.com Sounds great, but don't use bin - that folder is created by Eclipse and it is in the SVN ignore list. -Adrian On 2/27/2012 7:10 PM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote: The number of executable files (*.sh and *bat) in the OFBiz home folder is rather big: what if we create a bin folder and we move all of them there? In this way users will have a place where they will find all the executable files only and the main folder will be cleaner. Jacopo
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bin is good enough. On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 3:34 AM, Jacques Le Roux jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com wrote: Hi Jacopo, tools/bin sounds good to me Jacques From: Jacopo Cappellato jacopo.cappell...@hotwaxmedia.com Thanks everyone for the valuable comments! I am trying to finalize this thread: there seems to be consensus to move all the executable scripts into a folder to keep things organized. For the name of the folder: * some of you think that the bin (as I originally suggested) should be used because it is often used for this purpose * some of you are worried that this could interfere with some commonly used IDEs (e.g. Eclipse) that use the bin folder for output and need to be configured to use a different standard name After reviewing what we have now in OFBiz I am wondering if we could use the already existing tools folder; its current layout is: tools/api-java16 tools/src option a: add all the executables to tools/ folder directly option b: create a subfolder tools/bin and add all the executables there What do you think? Jacopo On Feb 29, 2012, at 5:45 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: Then we could recommend to name .bin for instance But I wonder if this will not be a source of problem for newbies... And also for Windows users, bin is not a standard name at all Jacques From: Adrian Crum adrian.c...@sandglass-software.com That's fine with me. We just need to update the Eclipse configuration files. -Adrian On 2/29/2012 3:20 PM, J. Eckard wrote: I think that eclipse / eclipse users should have to accommodate the directory structure of OFBiz, not the other way around. On Feb 29, 2012, at 9:58 AM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote: Thanks for the feedback! Any suggestion for the name of the folder? I was hoping to use a standard name, that is why I initially proposed the bin folder... but since that is not an option we will have to think to something else (unless we use the existing tools folder but I am not sure about the intended usage of that). Jacopo On Feb 27, 2012, at 8:45 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: +1 Jacques From: Adrian Crumadrian.c...@sandglass-software.com Sounds great, but don't use bin - that folder is created by Eclipse and it is in the SVN ignore list. -Adrian On 2/27/2012 7:10 PM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote: The number of executable files (*.sh and *bat) in the OFBiz home folder is rather big: what if we create a bin folder and we move all of them there? In this way users will have a place where they will find all the executable files only and the main folder will be cleaner. Jacopo
Re: bin folder for executable files/scripts
Thanks everyone for the valuable comments! I am trying to finalize this thread: there seems to be consensus to move all the executable scripts into a folder to keep things organized. For the name of the folder: * some of you think that the bin (as I originally suggested) should be used because it is often used for this purpose * some of you are worried that this could interfere with some commonly used IDEs (e.g. Eclipse) that use the bin folder for output and need to be configured to use a different standard name After reviewing what we have now in OFBiz I am wondering if we could use the already existing tools folder; its current layout is: tools/api-java16 tools/src option a: add all the executables to tools/ folder directly option b: create a subfolder tools/bin and add all the executables there What do you think? Jacopo On Feb 29, 2012, at 5:45 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: Then we could recommend to name .bin for instance But I wonder if this will not be a source of problem for newbies... And also for Windows users, bin is not a standard name at all Jacques From: Adrian Crum adrian.c...@sandglass-software.com That's fine with me. We just need to update the Eclipse configuration files. -Adrian On 2/29/2012 3:20 PM, J. Eckard wrote: I think that eclipse / eclipse users should have to accommodate the directory structure of OFBiz, not the other way around. On Feb 29, 2012, at 9:58 AM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote: Thanks for the feedback! Any suggestion for the name of the folder? I was hoping to use a standard name, that is why I initially proposed the bin folder... but since that is not an option we will have to think to something else (unless we use the existing tools folder but I am not sure about the intended usage of that). Jacopo On Feb 27, 2012, at 8:45 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: +1 Jacques From: Adrian Crumadrian.c...@sandglass-software.com Sounds great, but don't use bin - that folder is created by Eclipse and it is in the SVN ignore list. -Adrian On 2/27/2012 7:10 PM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote: The number of executable files (*.sh and *bat) in the OFBiz home folder is rather big: what if we create a bin folder and we move all of them there? In this way users will have a place where they will find all the executable files only and the main folder will be cleaner. Jacopo
Re: bin folder for executable files/scripts
Thanks for the feedback! Any suggestion for the name of the folder? I was hoping to use a standard name, that is why I initially proposed the bin folder... but since that is not an option we will have to think to something else (unless we use the existing tools folder but I am not sure about the intended usage of that). Jacopo On Feb 27, 2012, at 8:45 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: +1 Jacques From: Adrian Crum adrian.c...@sandglass-software.com Sounds great, but don't use bin - that folder is created by Eclipse and it is in the SVN ignore list. -Adrian On 2/27/2012 7:10 PM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote: The number of executable files (*.sh and *bat) in the OFBiz home folder is rather big: what if we create a bin folder and we move all of them there? In this way users will have a place where they will find all the executable files only and the main folder will be cleaner. Jacopo
Re: bin folder for executable files/scripts
I think that eclipse / eclipse users should have to accommodate the directory structure of OFBiz, not the other way around. On Feb 29, 2012, at 9:58 AM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote: Thanks for the feedback! Any suggestion for the name of the folder? I was hoping to use a standard name, that is why I initially proposed the bin folder... but since that is not an option we will have to think to something else (unless we use the existing tools folder but I am not sure about the intended usage of that). Jacopo On Feb 27, 2012, at 8:45 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: +1 Jacques From: Adrian Crum adrian.c...@sandglass-software.com Sounds great, but don't use bin - that folder is created by Eclipse and it is in the SVN ignore list. -Adrian On 2/27/2012 7:10 PM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote: The number of executable files (*.sh and *bat) in the OFBiz home folder is rather big: what if we create a bin folder and we move all of them there? In this way users will have a place where they will find all the executable files only and the main folder will be cleaner. Jacopo
Re: bin folder for executable files/scripts
That's fine with me. We just need to update the Eclipse configuration files. -Adrian On 2/29/2012 3:20 PM, J. Eckard wrote: I think that eclipse / eclipse users should have to accommodate the directory structure of OFBiz, not the other way around. On Feb 29, 2012, at 9:58 AM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote: Thanks for the feedback! Any suggestion for the name of the folder? I was hoping to use a standard name, that is why I initially proposed the bin folder... but since that is not an option we will have to think to something else (unless we use the existing tools folder but I am not sure about the intended usage of that). Jacopo On Feb 27, 2012, at 8:45 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: +1 Jacques From: Adrian Crumadrian.c...@sandglass-software.com Sounds great, but don't use bin - that folder is created by Eclipse and it is in the SVN ignore list. -Adrian On 2/27/2012 7:10 PM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote: The number of executable files (*.sh and *bat) in the OFBiz home folder is rather big: what if we create a bin folder and we move all of them there? In this way users will have a place where they will find all the executable files only and the main folder will be cleaner. Jacopo
Re: bin folder for executable files/scripts
The name bin would is a good choice. There are many mature projects that us bin to hold scripting files, for example ant and tomcat. In Eclipse you can change the name of the default output folder in the projects properties. Select java build path set default output folder at the bottom of the form. Create a folder say ofbiz/eclipse_bin. Eclipse will build to that folder leaving the name bin for other uses. From: J. Eckard eckar...@redrocketcorp.com To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 10:20 AM Subject: Re: bin folder for executable files/scripts I think that eclipse / eclipse users should have to accommodate the directory structure of OFBiz, not the other way around. On Feb 29, 2012, at 9:58 AM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote: Thanks for the feedback! Any suggestion for the name of the folder? I was hoping to use a standard name, that is why I initially proposed the bin folder... but since that is not an option we will have to think to something else (unless we use the existing tools folder but I am not sure about the intended usage of that). Jacopo On Feb 27, 2012, at 8:45 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: +1 Jacques From: Adrian Crum adrian.c...@sandglass-software.com Sounds great, but don't use bin - that folder is created by Eclipse and it is in the SVN ignore list. -Adrian On 2/27/2012 7:10 PM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote: The number of executable files (*.sh and *bat) in the OFBiz home folder is rather big: what if we create a bin folder and we move all of them there? In this way users will have a place where they will find all the executable files only and the main folder will be cleaner. Jacopo
Re: bin folder for executable files/scripts
Then we could recommend to name .bin for instance But I wonder if this will not be a source of problem for newbies... And also for Windows users, bin is not a standard name at all Jacques From: Adrian Crum adrian.c...@sandglass-software.com That's fine with me. We just need to update the Eclipse configuration files. -Adrian On 2/29/2012 3:20 PM, J. Eckard wrote: I think that eclipse / eclipse users should have to accommodate the directory structure of OFBiz, not the other way around. On Feb 29, 2012, at 9:58 AM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote: Thanks for the feedback! Any suggestion for the name of the folder? I was hoping to use a standard name, that is why I initially proposed the bin folder... but since that is not an option we will have to think to something else (unless we use the existing tools folder but I am not sure about the intended usage of that). Jacopo On Feb 27, 2012, at 8:45 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: +1 Jacques From: Adrian Crumadrian.c...@sandglass-software.com Sounds great, but don't use bin - that folder is created by Eclipse and it is in the SVN ignore list. -Adrian On 2/27/2012 7:10 PM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote: The number of executable files (*.sh and *bat) in the OFBiz home folder is rather big: what if we create a bin folder and we move all of them there? In this way users will have a place where they will find all the executable files only and the main folder will be cleaner. Jacopo
bin folder for executable files/scripts
The number of executable files (*.sh and *bat) in the OFBiz home folder is rather big: what if we create a bin folder and we move all of them there? In this way users will have a place where they will find all the executable files only and the main folder will be cleaner. Jacopo
Re: bin folder for executable files/scripts
Sounds great, but don't use bin - that folder is created by Eclipse and it is in the SVN ignore list. -Adrian On 2/27/2012 7:10 PM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote: The number of executable files (*.sh and *bat) in the OFBiz home folder is rather big: what if we create a bin folder and we move all of them there? In this way users will have a place where they will find all the executable files only and the main folder will be cleaner. Jacopo
