Re: Very simple first patch

2014-11-14 Thread Herbert Duerr

On 14.11.2014 01:04, Kay Schenk wrote:

On 11/13/2014 03:10 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

On 13/11/2014 Michal Hriň wrote:
[...]

It is a update of external package :)


And here is a problem, but it doesn't depend on you. Policy so far has
been: we download build-time dependencies from the Extensions site and
from Apache Extras.


Can we get a memory refresher on why we can't use the svn versions of
these external sources directly?


David Fisher wrote in [1] that he removed them because fallback urls to 
svn are now removed as per Infra policy. I guess the revision control 
server that is so very critical to so many ASF projects should not be 
impeded by the download of such large third-party tarballs.


[1] http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revisionrevision=r1377529


[...]
It seems like the testing from the new SourceForge are is going pretty
well...

http://markmail.org/message/4p3klhqkkvszmwav

Maybe time for some additional testing from:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/oooextras.mirror/files/

I'll make local changes and test with this as new OOO_EXTRAS area.

Who would have rights to update these files on SF?


The sourceforge ooextras.mirror project currently has only one 
administrator [2].


[2] https://sourceforge.net/u/sf-editor1/

Herbert

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Re: 2015 -- Our 30th Anniversary

2014-11-14 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 13/11/14 17:23, Malte Timmermann wrote:
 Hi Louis,
 
 On 28.10.2014 21:12, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote:
 Hi Malte,
 
 And you are right wrt many early developers working for Open-Xchange
 now :)

 Yes, and perhaps one day we’ll even see something (I joke; there is
 already something).
 
 Actually everyone can look at the demo version of App Suite, including
 OX Text and OX Spreadsheet:
 
 http://www.open-xchange.com/demo

cool, you make good progress, I like it

Juergen

 
 Same focus - Office productivity, ODF and OOXML.

 Hm. You might want to share with us what’s going on over there….
 
 See below :)
 
 Just different technology - now written for the browser.

 Right. Can you edit in the browser? I mean, edit ODF or OOXML docs.
 using, for instance, Chrome or Firefox or Safari?
 
 Exactly. ODF and OOXML are our natively supported formats that we can
 edit in the browser. Text and Spreadsheet are already available.
 
 We work on the documents very different compared to Open Office or MS
 Office. One of our most important features is the document roundtrip.
 You can safely switch between editing with OX Documents and editing with
 your native application. And we have real-time communication to quickly
 distribute changes to other clients.
 
 I just wrote a blog post that explains the technical details how we
 achieve it.
 
 http://techblog.open-xchange.com/2014/11/13/ox-documents-roundtrip-and-operations/

 
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 Malte.
 
 
 
 
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Re: Admin rights to Pootle

2014-11-14 Thread Michal Hriň

Dňa 14.11.2014 o 08:44 jan i napísal(a):

I think you misunderstood my mail. The above was what I prefer, but the
AOO project handles it differently. The AOO project admins create
accounts when requested, but of course they are not online 24hours a
day, therefore account creation can take a couple of days. I have no
problem with that.

But just for reference there are no double workthe suggestion is
accepted (just as users with account should have their translations
reviewed, this is the normal committer process).

Look at the mailing list, 2 accounts was just created within 24hours.

You ask to become admin, and that is different.


OK, I stop discussing about this.
_I want only to help. :)_
I'm asking from time to time to be more usefull. I have no problem with 
others work. If you want PMC as admin OK. If you want from users to make 
sugestions OK. If you don't want new admin volunteers OK.


It looks like that we (as AOO) still have no strict definitions for 
how translators should work.


Regards, hrin


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Re: emails to issues list

2014-11-14 Thread Mathias Röllig

Issue-8621 created.
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-8621


Thank you, Kay!  :)

Have a nice weekend!
Greetings, Mathias

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Re: Very simple first patch

2014-11-14 Thread Michal Hriň

Dňa 14.11.2014 o 00:10 Andrea Pescetti napísal(a):

On 13/11/2014 Michal Hriň wrote:

I made very simple patch.
http://people.apache.org/~hrin/dejavu/


Looks quite correct. The normal way would be to open an issue of type
PATCH and attach your patch. Make just one .patch file, obtained with
svn diff or git diff. And don't forget to send the link here to connect
it to this discussion.



Thanks! I tried to avoid to download whole trunk. I tried this on 
release because I want to know if the build is my problem or others. svn 
diff can't be made without svn co, right? But this is my problem.




Please review, and feel free to add it to trunk if it will be good.
And add comments if I'm doing something wrong.


I didn't test it yet, but I would only double-check that replacing the
ZIP file with a tar.gz archive does not require other changes. The rest
looks good.



Yop, :) sorry. I overseen the same file, but in .zip archive. I may 
change it.



It is a update of external package :)


And here is a problem, but it doesn't depend on you. Policy so far has
been: we download build-time dependencies from the Extensions site and
from Apache Extras. If Apache Extras (currently part of Google Code) do
not allow us to upload files any longer, then this is the first
occurrence of a problem that we have largely anticipated but not solved
yet. This shouldn't stop us from updating libraries, but for sure we
(the entire Apache Foundation, not OpenOffice only) must find a viable
replacement before the next release.

Regards,
   Andrea.

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Re: Build source from svn repository errors

2014-11-14 Thread Alexandro Colorado
Have you followed the Build Guide with the notes for your distro?

This notes might be outdated, any updates are appreciated:
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Fedora_Build_Instructions

On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 1:57 AM, jupiter jupiter@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 I have just fetched source code from svn, but failed to build it in
 CentOS 6 where I installed Archive::Zip version 1.39. See following
 error:

 /usr/bin/perl /Build2/aoo/main/solenv/bin/packimages.pl  -g
 /Build2/OPENOFFICE/aoo/main/default_images -m
 /Build2/aoo/main/default_images -c .. -l
 /Build2/aoo/main/solver/350/unxlngx6.pro/res/img -s
 ../unxlngx6.pro/res/img/sorted.lst -l ../unxlngx6.pro/res/img -o
 ../unxlngx6.pro/bin/images.zip
 packimages -- version: 1.17

 Can't call method desiredCompressionLevel on an undefined value at
 /usr/local/share/perl5/Archive/Zip/Archive.pm line 257.

 1 module(s):
 packimages
 need(s) to be rebuilt

 Reason(s):

 ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making /Build2/aoo/main/packimages/pack

 Is the source broken or is the perl issue? Any workaround to fix it?

 Thank you.

 - hce

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Re: OpenOffice folks: ApacheCon template?

2014-11-14 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 4:53 PM, Shane Curcuru a...@shanecurcuru.org wrote:
 On 11/10/14 6:27 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
 On 10/11/2014 Rony G. Flatscher wrote:
 On 24.10.2014 21:49, Rich Bowen wrote:
 Just received an e-mail pointing to the ApacheCon EU template at
 http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/apachecon-europe/program/speaker-guide
 which is a
 breathtaking 18 (eighteen) MB file!

 CCing the dev@community list again to say that Nick Burch provided a
 nicer (and smaller) template at
 http://people.apache.org/~nick/NickTemplateACEU14.odp

 (Nick, thank you and you can upload it to
 http://templates.openoffice.org/ too!)

 Regards,
   Andrea.

 Nice!  Is there a pointer to an easy and complete description of how to
 swap out the 18MB masters/background for Nick's improved version?  I'm
 still lost when it comes to bulk formatting changes in Impress.


The command line way is simple/direct:

1) Unzip the ODP file to disk

2) Look for any large image files

3) Load the large image files into an editor and reduce
resolution/color depth, increase compression, whatever you need to do
to make it smaller.

4) Save image file back to same name/same directory.

5) Zip up the directory, renaming it to and *.odp extension if needed.

ODF files are just ZIP archives containing XML + binary resources like
images.  So they are very hackable from the command line, once you
unzip them.

Regards,

-Rob


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Re: OpenOffice folks: ApacheCon template?

2014-11-14 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On 11/14/14, Rob Weir r...@robweir.com wrote:
 On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 4:53 PM, Shane Curcuru a...@shanecurcuru.org
 wrote:
 On 11/10/14 6:27 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
 On 10/11/2014 Rony G. Flatscher wrote:
 On 24.10.2014 21:49, Rich Bowen wrote:
 Just received an e-mail pointing to the ApacheCon EU template at
 http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/apachecon-europe/program/speaker-guide
 which is a
 breathtaking 18 (eighteen) MB file!

 CCing the dev@community list again to say that Nick Burch provided a
 nicer (and smaller) template at
 http://people.apache.org/~nick/NickTemplateACEU14.odp

 (Nick, thank you and you can upload it to
 http://templates.openoffice.org/ too!)

 Regards,
   Andrea.

 Nice!  Is there a pointer to an easy and complete description of how to
 swap out the 18MB masters/background for Nick's improved version?  I'm
 still lost when it comes to bulk formatting changes in Impress.


 The command line way is simple/direct:

 1) Unzip the ODP file to disk

 2) Look for any large image files

 3) Load the large image files into an editor and reduce
 resolution/color depth, increase compression, whatever you need to do
 to make it smaller.

I would recommend using vectors like SVG or indexed PNG instead. If
you want to keep it ODF-like, maybe do the design on ODG.



 4) Save image file back to same name/same directory.

 5) Zip up the directory, renaming it to and *.odp extension if needed.

AFAIK there are issues with zipping an ODF file. I remember this was
reported on some ODF blog since the way WinZip ad other programs zip
by default is not 'standard' with ODF editors. Might need to google it
again, but it just jump into mind.


 ODF files are just ZIP archives containing XML + binary resources like
 images.  So they are very hackable from the command line, once you
 unzip them.

 Regards,

 -Rob


 - Shane


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Re: Very simple first patch

2014-11-14 Thread Kay Schenk
On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 12:08 AM, Herbert Duerr h...@apache.org wrote:

 On 14.11.2014 01:04, Kay Schenk wrote:

 On 11/13/2014 03:10 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

 On 13/11/2014 Michal Hriň wrote:
 [...]

 It is a update of external package :)


 And here is a problem, but it doesn't depend on you. Policy so far has
 been: we download build-time dependencies from the Extensions site and
 from Apache Extras.


 Can we get a memory refresher on why we can't use the svn versions of
 these external sources directly?


 David Fisher wrote in [1] that he removed them because fallback urls to
 svn are now removed as per Infra policy. I guess the revision control
 server that is so very critical to so many ASF projects should not be
 impeded by the download of such large third-party tarballs.

 [1] http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revisionrevision=r1377529

  [...]
 It seems like the testing from the new SourceForge are is going pretty
 well...

 http://markmail.org/message/4p3klhqkkvszmwav

 Maybe time for some additional testing from:
 http://sourceforge.net/projects/oooextras.mirror/files/

 I'll make local changes and test with this as new OOO_EXTRAS area.

 Who would have rights to update these files on SF?


 The sourceforge ooextras.mirror project currently has only one
 administrator [2].

 [2] https://sourceforge.net/u/sf-editor1/

 Herbert


Thanks for the info...




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Re: Apache Extras PoC

2014-11-14 Thread Kay Schenk
On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 4:49 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org
wrote:

 On 29/10/2014 Roberto Galoppini wrote:

 Here we go, the new lookfeel based on some of your earlier feedback:
 http://sourceforge.net/directory/apache_extras


 This is much improved, thanks Roberto! The landing page is now much
 cleaner.

 Some of the comments on the inner pages still apply, but maybe if it would
 be possible to remove the Code tab from the individual projects?

 Or, on the contrary, using the Code function instead of the File
 function for the file repository? (Here we should really check what other
 projects do; for OpenOffice, Extras is just a file repository). It seems
 that a look and feel like
 http://sourceforge.net/mirror/oooextras/code/HEAD/tree/trunk/
 could be better for our case than something like
 http://sourceforge.net/projects/oooextras.mirror/files/
 (which assumes, more or less, that those files are actually releases;
 but they aren't and this has a number of unintended consequences).

 Regards,
   Andrea.


Two questions --

Are we ready to go ahead with these changes to /main/external_deps.lst --

-- Andrea's earlier post --
 I can say I managed to build OpenOffice trunk by replacing (and I'm not
suggesting that anyone commits this, it is just a proof of concept!)

-OOO_EXTRAS=http://ooo-extras.apache-extras.org.codespot.com/files/
+OOO_EXTRAS=http://sourceforge.net/projects/oooextras.mirror/files/
http://ooo-extras.apache-extras.org.codespot.com/files/+OOO_EXTRAS=http://sourceforge.net/projects/oooextras.mirror/files/

and
-URL2 = $(OOO_EXTRAS)$(MD5)-$(name)
+URL2 = $(OOO_EXTRAS)$(MD5)-$(name)/download
in external_deps.lst after deleting all third-party packages. So the
archive seems complete and working.

-- end Andrea --

and since this is mirroring, I'm assuming we still put changes in our
local  svn tree and SF will grab them from there. Correct?


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Re: Apache Extras PoC

2014-11-14 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Kay Schenk wrote:

Two questions --
Are we ready to go ahead with these changes to /main/external_deps.lst --


No we aren't! Roberto sent us a proof of concept, but he wrote that even 
the URL will change, so it is definitely not OK to change the location 
for Extras from Google Code to SourceForge yet.


On the other hand, I just tried to create a new download at
https://code.google.com/a/apache-extras.org/p/ooo-extras/downloads/list
(i.e., I tried to add the updated fonts package recently discussed on 
the OpenOffice dev list) and I confirm I can't add it. So the current 
service at Google Code cannot be used any longer to add new packages, 
which means that an alternative must be found (this has been known for 
months, but now this is really preventing us from getting things done).



and since this is mirroring, I'm assuming we still put changes in our
local  svn tree and SF will grab them from there. Correct?


The (remote or local) SVN tree has nothing to do with this. OpenOffice 
Extras is a section of Apache Extras which in turn is part of Google 
Code, and files to be mirrored are those at the link above.


Apache Extras in itself is foundation-wide, but only a few projects so 
far have expressed concerns about the policy change that is making it 
useless for OpenOffice in future.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: Build source from svn repository errors

2014-11-14 Thread jupiter
Thanks Alexandro, yes I did follow the build guides.

Anyway, I had a quick look at the code packimages.pl and found following
invalid path passed to $zip-addFile, the file
/Build2/aoo/main/default_images/res/helpimg|/area1.png was fine, but
following path was wrong. My gut felling is at least the packimages.pl
should check the path before passing to the $zip-addFile. I added a check
statement next unless (-e $path); which completed the build process, but
did not fix the issue why an invalid path was generated.

/Build2/aoo/main/default_images/res/|-dir=/Build2/aoo/main/default_images/res/helpimg|/area1.png'

Thank you.

- hce

On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 11:30 PM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote:

 Have you followed the Build Guide with the notes for your distro?

 This notes might be outdated, any updates are appreciated:
 https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Fedora_Build_Instructions

 On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 1:57 AM, jupiter jupiter@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi,
 
  I have just fetched source code from svn, but failed to build it in
  CentOS 6 where I installed Archive::Zip version 1.39. See following
  error:
 
  /usr/bin/perl /Build2/aoo/main/solenv/bin/packimages.pl  -g
  /Build2/OPENOFFICE/aoo/main/default_images -m
  /Build2/aoo/main/default_images -c .. -l
  /Build2/aoo/main/solver/350/unxlngx6.pro/res/img -s
  ../unxlngx6.pro/res/img/sorted.lst -l ../unxlngx6.pro/res/img -o
  ../unxlngx6.pro/bin/images.zip
  packimages -- version: 1.17
 
  Can't call method desiredCompressionLevel on an undefined value at
  /usr/local/share/perl5/Archive/Zip/Archive.pm line 257.
 
  1 module(s):
  packimages
  need(s) to be rebuilt
 
  Reason(s):
 
  ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making /Build2/aoo/main/packimages/pack
 
  Is the source broken or is the perl issue? Any workaround to fix it?
 
  Thank you.
 
  - hce
 
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Re: Build source from svn repository errors

2014-11-14 Thread Kay Schenk


On 11/14/2014 03:32 PM, jupiter wrote:
 Thanks Alexandro, yes I did follow the build guides.
 
 Anyway, I had a quick look at the code packimages.pl and found following
 invalid path passed to $zip-addFile, the file
 /Build2/aoo/main/default_images/res/helpimg|/area1.png was fine, but
 following path was wrong. My gut felling is at least the packimages.pl
 should check the path before passing to the $zip-addFile. I added a check
 statement next unless (-e $path); which completed the build process, but
 did not fix the issue why an invalid path was generated.
 
 /Build2/aoo/main/default_images/res/|-dir=/Build2/aoo/main/default_images/res/helpimg|/area1.png'
 
 Thank you.
 
 - hce

You could try adding --

VERBOSE_PACKIMG=TRUE

to your environment script (the one sourced before building), also
include this in the export set at the bottom of that script.

Then try a rebuild (clean build) -- see Build Cleanup
(https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO#Build_Cleanup)

When you review output for packimages, you should then see output
messages of the images that are to be archived along with their paths.

This would help us determine what paths are checked and why this happened.

To my knowledge, I don't think this has been reported before.

 
 On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 11:30 PM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote:
 
 Have you followed the Build Guide with the notes for your distro?

 This notes might be outdated, any updates are appreciated:
 https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Fedora_Build_Instructions

 On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 1:57 AM, jupiter jupiter@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 I have just fetched source code from svn, but failed to build it in
 CentOS 6 where I installed Archive::Zip version 1.39. See following
 error:

 /usr/bin/perl /Build2/aoo/main/solenv/bin/packimages.pl  -g
 /Build2/OPENOFFICE/aoo/main/default_images -m
 /Build2/aoo/main/default_images -c .. -l
 /Build2/aoo/main/solver/350/unxlngx6.pro/res/img -s
 ../unxlngx6.pro/res/img/sorted.lst -l ../unxlngx6.pro/res/img -o
 ../unxlngx6.pro/bin/images.zip
 packimages -- version: 1.17

 Can't call method desiredCompressionLevel on an undefined value at
 /usr/local/share/perl5/Archive/Zip/Archive.pm line 257.

 1 module(s):
 packimages
 need(s) to be rebuilt

 Reason(s):

 ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making /Build2/aoo/main/packimages/pack

 Is the source broken or is the perl issue? Any workaround to fix it?

 Thank you.

 - hce

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Re: Build source from svn repository errors

2014-11-14 Thread jupiter
On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 11:06 AM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote:



 On 11/14/2014 03:32 PM, jupiter wrote:
  Thanks Alexandro, yes I did follow the build guides.
 
  Anyway, I had a quick look at the code packimages.pl and found following
  invalid path passed to $zip-addFile, the file
  /Build2/aoo/main/default_images/res/helpimg|/area1.png was fine, but
  following path was wrong. My gut felling is at least the packimages.pl
  should check the path before passing to the $zip-addFile. I added a
 check
  statement next unless (-e $path); which completed the build process, but
  did not fix the issue why an invalid path was generated.
 
 
 /Build2/aoo/main/default_images/res/|-dir=/Build2/aoo/main/default_images/res/helpimg|/area1.png'
 
  Thank you.
 
  - hce

 You could try adding --

 VERBOSE_PACKIMG=TRUE

 to your environment script (the one sourced before building), also
 include this in the export set at the bottom of that script.

 Then try a rebuild (clean build) -- see Build Cleanup
 (
 https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO#Build_Cleanup
 )

 When you review output for packimages, you should then see output
 messages of the images that are to be archived along with their paths.

 This would help us determine what paths are checked and why this happened.

 To my knowledge, I don't think this has been reported before.

 Will do it.

Sorry for a dumb question, it is my first time to build the open office. I
guess the binary executable file is openoffice.org, but I could not find
it..

$ ls aoo/main/instsetoo_native/
unxlngx6.pro/OpenOffice/installed/install/en-US/openoffice.org
basis3.5  ure

- hce


Re: Build source from svn repository errors

2014-11-14 Thread Andrea Pescetti

jupiter wrote:

Sorry for a dumb question, it is my first time to build the open office. I
guess the binary executable file is openoffice.org, but I could not find
it..
$ ls aoo/main/instsetoo_native/
unxlngx6.pro/OpenOffice/installed/install/en-US/openoffice.org
basis3.5  ure


The executable is
main/instsetoo_native/unxlngx6.pro/Apache_OpenOffice/installed/install/en/openoffice4/program/soffice
(if you configured with --with-package-format=installed ).

but the above seems to show that you are possibly building the wrong 
thing (and maybe this explains the errors you got too). Can you run svn 
info and give us the URL? Does it contain incubator? Where did you 
find it? We may need to update some documentation. Here 
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO you 
should find the right URLs to use.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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