Re: "[CWiki] Account Whitelisting"

2015-09-11 Thread Andrea Pescetti 

Bilal Coleman wrote:

My name is Bilal Coleman, I'm writing this in order to request that my wiki
account be activated. My User name is Nightwriter.


Welcome! Account whitelisted.

Andrea.

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Re: Maintenance of AOO Wiki and Forum

2015-09-11 Thread Andrea Pescetti 

On 14/08/2015 jan i wrote:

this might be a good time for a new maintainer to step up.
The actual maintenance is  about 1 hour pr month.


Coming back to this, it is likely to be easier to find someone if we 
define this "ordinary maintenance" better. I mean, updating the 
application takes surely more than 1 hour but that is "extraordinary 
maintenance".


What falls in the "ordinary maintenance"? Login to the VM, say, every 
few days, apt-get upgrade, taking a look at the logs and basic system 
health indicators? If these are the tasks then expanding the team with 
one extra volunteer will look less daunting than upgrading the forum to 
the latest version, which is made very complex by the extremely 
complicated setup we inherited from the pre-Apache era.


Note: I did read the companion thread too, but still it didn't get into 
concrete maintenance tasks.


By the way, Jan let me thank you in public for the infrastructure work: 
unfortunately, like all sysadmin tasks, if one does a good job it 
doesn't show since everything just keeps working and people forget that 
this is due to someone properly administering them.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: Maintenance of AOO Wiki and Forum

2015-09-11 Thread jan i 
I see this mail goes public on dev@ which seems to have changed a lot into
a single person deciding what happens (or at least what is
communicated outside the project). This is of course only my opinon as one
who do not follow the project closely, but I respond accordingly.

If the AOO project finds it easier to define "ordinary maintenance" then
please do so, there are lots of references in the archives as to what that
means, written by myself and other PMC members. If you have specific
questions I am happy to help.

Your description sounds ok (at least for a sales brochure), reality might
be a bit more complicated but not that much. However you avoid the real
problem, the upgrade, in my private opinion the servers need an makeover
for security reasons, but that is my personal opinion (to any hackers: the
servers are currently well protected from the outside due to the https
structure that infra prefers to use)

I understand from other lists, which I cannot refer to, that the AOO chair
(I have not seen it confirmed anywhere from the PMC) is talking with infra,
so I do not understand the background for your question, nor do I want to
interfere in talks between the AOO chair and Infra.

As I have said many times I am part of Infra and part of apache, so
naturally I am available for help when needed, but please do not use me as
a go-between infra and the project.

rgds
jan i




On Friday, September 11, 2015, Andrea Pescetti  wrote:

> On 14/08/2015 jan i wrote:
>
>> this might be a good time for a new maintainer to step up.
>> The actual maintenance is  about 1 hour pr month.
>>
>
> Coming back to this, it is likely to be easier to find someone if we
> define this "ordinary maintenance" better. I mean, updating the application
> takes surely more than 1 hour but that is "extraordinary maintenance".


>
> What falls in the "ordinary maintenance"? Login to the VM, say, every few
> days, apt-get upgrade, taking a look at the logs and basic system health
> indicators? If these are the tasks then expanding the team with one extra
> volunteer will look less daunting than upgrading the forum to the latest
> version, which is made very complex by the extremely complicated setup we
> inherited from the pre-Apache era.
>
> Note: I did read the companion thread too, but still it didn't get into
> concrete maintenance tasks.
>
> By the way, Jan let me thank you in public for the infrastructure work:
> unfortunately, like all sysadmin tasks, if one does a good job it doesn't
> show since everything just keeps working and people forget that this is due
> to someone properly administering them.
>
> Regards,
>   Andrea.
>


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Re: SQLite ODBC driver for Libra and OpenOffice

2015-09-11 Thread FR web forum 
This is a commercial offer with a trial version (30 days).
The driver is costly 150 USD.

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De: "Kay Schenk" 
À: d...@openoffice.apache.org, "OOo Apache" 
Envoyé: Vendredi 11 Septembre 2015 02:36:31
Objet: Re: SQLite ODBC driver for Libra and OpenOffice

On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 5:07 AM, Denis Yanov  wrote:

> Hi, my name is Denis I just wanted to share some info with you which you
> might include in documentation.
>
> I found some info about  SQLite ODBC driver for OpenOffice in your wiki
> http://www.openoffice.org/dba/drivers/sqlite/index.html
>
> My team managed to develop a new SQLite ODBC driver which is perfectly
> working with Libra and OpenOffice. Here it is
> https://www.devart.com/odbc/sqlite/
>
> Could you please add a link or at least a sentence to the relevant wiki
> page about our SQLite ODBC driver? We improving it and releasing new
> versions every 1-2 months. I think it will be important to let OpenOffice
> users to know about this alternative SQLite ODBC driver.
>
> Waiting for your reply...
>

Hi Denis,

I've copied our "dev" list on this reply. Hopefully we'll get some testing
on your new driver soon, and after that, we can likely add a link to your
information page.

Thank you for contacting AOO.


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Re: Wrongful information on the Wikipedia

2015-09-11 Thread Andrea Pescetti 

On 10/09/2015 Max Merbald wrote:

If people read on the Wikipedia that AOO is "dormant"


OpenOffice is not dormant, as of today. A link that can dispel the myth is

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.2

(and blog posts that will come, but this is enough for the time being).

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Re: Wrongful information on the Wikipedia

2015-09-11 Thread Phillip Rhodes 
Sorry, I missed the infobox when I looked at the page.  You're right,
having "Dormant" there is flat out wrong and very misleading.

I changed it to "Active" just now and added a ref pointer to the 4.1.2
release schedule that Andrea just provided.  I just hope there aren't
certain parties with a vested interest in denigrating AOO sitting around
planning to start a revert war over this.   :-(


Phil


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On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 10:08 AM, Max Merbald  wrote:

> Hi Phil,
>
> what I meant was the infobox at the top right. In that box it says that
> AOO is dormat, which is not correct and which is not in the citations. The
> presence of a citation does not necessry mean that the claimed info is in
> the citation. If people read on the Wikipedia that AOO is "dormant" they'll
> start looking for different office software.
>
> Max
>
>
>
> Am 03.09.2015 um 23:12 schrieb Phillip Rhodes:
>
>> I just looked at the Wikipedia page and don't see anything that's -
>> strictly speaking - incorrect, or lacking citations.  IOW, I don't see any
>> supportable rationale for removing anything that's there, although one
>> could question the motives of whoever made it a point to call out some
>> concerns about lack of activity in the first paragaph of the article.
>> Nonetheless, I think any attempt to modify that will face opposition.
>>
>> In a related vein, The Guardian recently ran this article titled "Should I
>> Switch From Apache OpenOffice to LibreOffice or Microsoft Office".
>>
>> http://www.theguardian.com/technology/askjack/2015/sep/03/switch-openoffice-libreoffice-or-microsoft-office
>>
>> I don't know if there's any easy way to counter this narrative that's
>> spreading through the press, about AOO being dead/dormant/whatever, or how
>> LO is clearly "the winner", but it's definitely unfortunate to see this
>> kind of stuff spread around so widely.  :-(
>>
>>
>> Phil
>>
>>
>> This message optimized for indexing by NSA PRISM
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 4:55 PM, Louis Suárez-Potts 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Max,
>>>
>>> On 03 Sep 15, at 16:31, Max Merbald  wrote:

 Hi there,

 the Engish Wikipedia claims that AOO is dormant. I can't see where they

>>> have the information from. The sources they use don't say so. I think
>>> it's
>>> definitely bad for OpenOffice when people think no more is done about it.
>>> The problem is also that LibreOffice has just published its version 5.0
>>> and
>>> is getting ahead of us.
>>>
>>> thanks for the alert.
>>>
>>> Wikipedia is composed by a crowd of editors, and you can change the entry
>>> to reflect the facts.
>>>
>>> So can anyone on this list. Becoming an editor at Wikipedia is not
>>> arduous.
>>>
>>> Louis
>>>
 Max


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Re: 4.1.2_release_blocker granted: [Issue 125501] Spellcheck does not work, category B modules are missing (OS/2)

2015-09-11 Thread Andrea Pescetti 

On 10/09/2015 bugzilla wrote:

Andrea Pescetti has granted Kay's
request for 4.1.2_release_blocker:
Issue 125501: Spellcheck does not work, category B modules are missing (OS/2)
https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=125501


As clarified with Yuri Dario (see issue): the commits in this specific 
issue are part of a bigger set of commits that are already in trunk and 
that Yuri can port to the AOO410 branch so that OpenOffice 4.1.2 will 
build on OS/2.


All patches are OS/2 specific. The "blocker" flag is to be considered 
automatically extended to related issues and patches. Yuri Dario will 
personally pick the right ones and commit them to the AOO410 branch.


Regards,
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Re: Release Notes page for version 4.1.2 creates

2015-09-11 Thread Marco A.G.Pinto 

Hello Keith,

On 12/09/2015 00:53, Keith N. McKenna wrote:

The Release Notes page for version 4.1.2 has been created and the
template text added to it. The page is located at
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.2+Release+Notes.
Anyone with a white-listed Cwiki account can edit it.

Regards
Keith



The following information is wrong:
*"Note: The extension contains multiple variants. Only the en-GB 
dictionary has been updated."*


en-US and en-CA have also been updated several times by Kevin Atkinson, 
but the one with around 15'000 new words is the en-GB which I am 
maintaining.



Kind regards from your friend,
   >Marco A.G.Pinto
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Release Notes page for version 4.1.2 creates

2015-09-11 Thread Keith N. McKenna 
The Release Notes page for version 4.1.2 has been created and the
template text added to it. The page is located at
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.2+Release+Notes.
Anyone with a white-listed Cwiki account can edit it.

Regards
Keith



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Re: SQLite ODBC driver for Libra and OpenOffice

2015-09-11 Thread Kay Schenk 
ah. Thanks for this info. I did not actually go to the link. I will be
back in contact with Denis concerning this.

On 09/11/2015 12:47 AM, FR web forum wrote:
> This is a commercial offer with a trial version (30 days).
> The driver is costly 150 USD.
> 
> - Mail original -
> De: "Kay Schenk" 
> À: d...@openoffice.apache.org, "OOo Apache" 
> Envoyé: Vendredi 11 Septembre 2015 02:36:31
> Objet: Re: SQLite ODBC driver for Libra and OpenOffice
> 
> On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 5:07 AM, Denis Yanov  wrote:
> 
>> Hi, my name is Denis I just wanted to share some info with you which you
>> might include in documentation.
>>
>> I found some info about  SQLite ODBC driver for OpenOffice in your wiki
>> http://www.openoffice.org/dba/drivers/sqlite/index.html
>>
>> My team managed to develop a new SQLite ODBC driver which is perfectly
>> working with Libra and OpenOffice. Here it is
>> https://www.devart.com/odbc/sqlite/
>>
>> Could you please add a link or at least a sentence to the relevant wiki
>> page about our SQLite ODBC driver? We improving it and releasing new
>> versions every 1-2 months. I think it will be important to let OpenOffice
>> users to know about this alternative SQLite ODBC driver.
>>
>> Waiting for your reply...
>>
> 
> Hi Denis,
> 
> I've copied our "dev" list on this reply. Hopefully we'll get some testing
> on your new driver soon, and after that, we can likely add a link to your
> information page.
> 
> Thank you for contacting AOO.
> 
> 
>>
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Re: Maintenance of AOO Wiki and Forum

2015-09-11 Thread jan i 
On Friday, September 11, 2015, Andrea Pescetti  wrote:

> On 14/08/2015 jan i wrote:
>
>> this might be a good time for a new maintainer to step up.
>> The actual maintenance is  about 1 hour pr month.
>>
>
> Coming back to this, it is likely to be easier to find someone if we
> define this "ordinary maintenance" better. I mean, updating the application
> takes surely more than 1 hour but that is "extraordinary maintenance".
>
> What falls in the "ordinary maintenance"? Login to the VM, say, every few
> days, apt-get upgrade, taking a look at the logs and basic system health
> indicators? If these are the tasks then expanding the team with one extra
> volunteer will look less daunting than upgrading the forum to the latest
> version, which is made very complex by the extremely complicated setup we
> inherited from the pre-Apache era.
>
> Note: I did read the companion thread too, but still it didn't get into
> concrete maintenance tasks.
>
> By the way, Jan let me thank you in public for the infrastructure work:
> unfortunately, like all sysadmin tasks, if one does a good job it doesn't
> show since everything just keeps working and people forget that this is due
> to someone properly administering them.
>
> Regards,
>   Andrea.
>


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