Re: Ian Lynch information needed

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 13/09/2015 Kay Schenk wrote:

Thank you. And it seems I mis-typed the year.in the memorial page. New
revision attached.


Thank you Kay. This final version is now published at
http://www.apache.org/memorials/

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[CWiki] Account Whitelisting

[OO Bugs]

Hello,

My name is Lalith Ramesh, and I would like to request an account on the
Confluence Wiki with the username "openofficebugs".  I would like to add
myself to the Directory of Volunteers.

Re: aOO-4.1.1//configure script// ant-1.9.2//openjdk-1.7.0-7u6

[Damjan Jovanovic]

Hi

Try adding
--with-ant-home=/opt/ant-1.9.2
instead of the ENVVAR or link in /usr/bin/ant.

Also please attach your config.log.

Damjan

On Sat, Sep 19, 2015 at 12:03 PM, sibu  wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> I am attempting to compile apache-openoffice.  My computer has these:
> --cpu amd64   2 cores
> --os-blfs linux, (linux-4.2, gcc-4.8.1, openjdk-1.7.0-7u6, ant-1.9.2 ( ant is
> in /opt/ant-1.9.2
>  and the latter is set as the ENVAR ${ANT_HOME})
> openjdk-1.7.0-7u6 is in /opt/openJDK and the llatter set as $JAVA_HOME
>
> my configure options have these:-
>
>
> --without-java \
> --without-system-jars \
> --with-vba-package-format="builtin" \
> --enable-wiki-publisher \
> --with-junit=/opt/java \
>
>
> when I run ./configure --variousOptions ...  it ends like so:-
> #--
> checking whether to trigger rat scan... no
> checking whether ant is >= 1.6.0... ./configure: line 22577: -version: command
> not found
> ./configure: line 22583: test: : integer expression expected
> configure: error: no, you need at least ant >= 1.6.0
> #--
>
> I tried the following versions of apache openoffice:-
> --A--apache-openoffice-4.1.1-r1617669
> --B--openoffice-trunk_GIT180915 (fetched as a zipped file from github 18th
> September 2015)
>
> both gave the same result.
>
> I also symlinked  /opt/ant/1.9.2/bin/ant  to /usr/bin/ant
>
> and this gave the same result too.
>
> The offending line 22577 in the configure script is this:-
> #---
> ant_version=`$ANT -version | $AWK '{ print $4; }'`
> #---
>
> I changed and tested it like so
>
> sibu [ ~ ]$ ant_version=$( /usr/bin/ant -version | /usr/bin/awk '{ print $4;
> }' )
> sibu [ ~ ]$ echo $ant_version
> 1.9.2
>
>
> I then ran configure again and this results:-
>
> #---
> checking whether ant is >= 1.6.0... ./configure: line 22583: test: not
> NO_JAVA_HOME/bin/java: integer expression expected
> configure: error: no, you need at least ant >= 1.6.0
> #---
>
> but line 22583 of the configue script  reads:-
> #---
> if test "$ant_version_major" -ge "2"; then
> #---
>
> there is no mention of of "NO_JAVA_HOME/bin/java"
>
> Help/advice will be appreciated.
>
> Sincerely
> Sibu
>
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Re: Ian Lynch information needed

[JZA]

Hi Andrea, I didn't get the chance to read the memorial until now, I most
say is a great piece. However they omit a big part of his life which was
his professional one. As his linkedin page says (
https://uk.linkedin.com/pub/ian-lynch/0/a88/bb2) he was a Registered
Inspector of schools accredited by Office for Standards in Education, and a
lifetime educator in the British school system.

I can understand that maybe the goal is not to be too acurate, and on a
lighter note, he was a very good Ruby player and missed going to the 2010
OpenOffice.org Conference in Slovenia due to a broken leg.
https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/12036502_10154197872421978_233667787073901200_n.jpg?oh=3ab5dbcd8f1895bce374dc466e62d7bb=565FCDB2

On Sat, Sep 19, 2015 at 2:56 PM, Andrea Pescetti 
wrote:

> On 13/09/2015 Kay Schenk wrote:
>
>> Thank you. And it seems I mis-typed the year.in the memorial page. New
>> revision attached.
>>
>
> Thank you Kay. This final version is now published at
> http://www.apache.org/memorials/
>
> Regards,
>   Andrea.
>
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Re: 32-bit Xubuntu 14.04 build broken

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 13/09/2015 Damjan Jovanovic wrote:

=
1. CoinMP cannot be downloaded
=

No Ubuntu package (or is there?) so it has to be downloaded during
./bootstrap, but it seems the website has been down for a few days
now. This prevents the use of --enable-category-b, but we can proceed
by leaving that option out.


I bumped into this too, last week, but I didn't have time to check and 
analyze back at the time. It is a bug in the sense that we do not want 
to depend on third-party sites for a successful build. So when we 
include an external library we copy it either to our SVN tree in

http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/trunk/ext_sources/
(rare; licensing concerns apply too, since we prefer to avoid 
restrictive licensing there)

or to OOO_EXTRAS, a repository controlled by the project.

This is why you see URL1 and URL2 in
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/trunk/main/external_deps.lst?view=markup

There should always be a URL linking to $(OOO_EXTRAS)$(MD5)-$(name) to 
avoid the situation that just happened.


Note that OOO_EXTRAS changed URL since we were using Google Code but the 
service was shut down. Trunk has the right URL now.


I opened two issues to clean up stuff on trunk and AOO410 (we have 
different external libraries):

https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126540
https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126541

I'll come back to your other (mostly unrelated) issues when this is 
fixed and when I have an Ubuntu 14.04 system available (I'll try to get 
a 32-bit one).


Regards,
  Andrea.

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4.1.2_release_blocker granted: [Issue 126541] Remove dependency on Google Code for 4.1.2 builds

[bugzilla]

Andrea Pescetti  has granted  4.1.2_release_blocker:
Issue 126541: Remove dependency on Google Code for 4.1.2 builds
https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126541



--- Description ---
As discussed on the dev list, OpenOffice 4.1.2 (not trunk) still depends on the
now officially deprecated (by Google) Google Code service.

Google Code is now in read-only mode
https://code.google.com/p/support/wiki/ReadOnlyTransition so for any updates we
have to switch to the new repository, which has been used by trunk for a while.

This has no impact on the build process itself, just on the bootstrap phase
where we will no longer depend on Google Code (aka "Apache Extras") being
available.

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aOO-4.1.1//configure script// ant-1.9.2//openjdk-1.7.0-7u6

[sibu]

Greetings,

I am attempting to compile apache-openoffice.  My computer has these:
--cpu amd64   2 cores
--os-blfs linux, (linux-4.2, gcc-4.8.1, openjdk-1.7.0-7u6, ant-1.9.2 ( ant is 
in /opt/ant-1.9.2
 and the latter is set as the ENVAR ${ANT_HOME})
openjdk-1.7.0-7u6 is in /opt/openJDK and the llatter set as $JAVA_HOME

my configure options have these:-


--without-java \
--without-system-jars \
--with-vba-package-format="builtin" \
--enable-wiki-publisher \
--with-junit=/opt/java \


when I run ./configure --variousOptions ...  it ends like so:-
#--
checking whether to trigger rat scan... no
checking whether ant is >= 1.6.0... ./configure: line 22577: -version: command 
not found
./configure: line 22583: test: : integer expression expected
configure: error: no, you need at least ant >= 1.6.0
#--

I tried the following versions of apache openoffice:-
--A--apache-openoffice-4.1.1-r1617669
--B--openoffice-trunk_GIT180915 (fetched as a zipped file from github 18th 
September 2015)

both gave the same result.

I also symlinked  /opt/ant/1.9.2/bin/ant  to /usr/bin/ant 

and this gave the same result too.

The offending line 22577 in the configure script is this:-
#---
ant_version=`$ANT -version | $AWK '{ print $4; }'`
#---

I changed and tested it like so

sibu [ ~ ]$ ant_version=$( /usr/bin/ant -version | /usr/bin/awk '{ print $4; 
}' )
sibu [ ~ ]$ echo $ant_version
1.9.2


I then ran configure again and this results:-

#---
checking whether ant is >= 1.6.0... ./configure: line 22583: test: not 
NO_JAVA_HOME/bin/java: integer expression expected
configure: error: no, you need at least ant >= 1.6.0
#---

but line 22583 of the configue script  reads:-
#---
if test "$ant_version_major" -ge "2"; then
#---

there is no mention of of "NO_JAVA_HOME/bin/java"

Help/advice will be appreciated.

Sincerely
Sibu

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Re: help how to create a patch

[Carl Marcum]

On 09/17/2015 07:24 PM, John D'Orazio wrote:

I believe I have found what can be considered a bug, or at least not
intended behaviour, in the way the OpenOffice API takes values from Java
when setting certain text properties (in this case "CharBackColor") using
the XPropertySet interface. I have been discussing this on a forum thread (
https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=44=79294=364347)
and have opened an issue for it on the bugzilla tracker (
https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126531).

I would be willing to look into it and work on a patch for this, if anyone
can point me in the right direction of where exactly to look in the Open
Office source code... I have been skimming over it in the svn repo (
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/trunk/), but for a newcomer
it's hard to know where to look (I'm guessing it might have to do with the
XPropertySet interface, or wherever the Text Properties supported by the
interface are defined). If anyone can point me in the right direction I can
try to look into it...


Hi John,

I'm actually just beginning to look into how the java jars are built so 
I may need corrected by someone.


I think the java files are "Built" from IDL files and packaged into the 
jar files during a build process.


I have only svn checked out the AOO code last night and begun looking.

For instance if you search the codebase for XPropertySet the only java 
files I have found are in QA type directories.


Have you tried to additionally set the CharBackTransparent boolean 
property as well [1].


[1] 
https://www.openoffice.org/api/docs/common/ref/com/sun/star/style/CharacterProperties.html#CharBackColor


Thanks,
Carl



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The "right way" to Ship Software

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

This is an appealing article for developers mainly.  I think it is accessible 
to others on this list as well.

The TLDR; 

   "As a rule of thumb, expensive software means 
Predictability is key while shipping.  Customers
*need* your product.  If you have a lower (or no)
Price tag, focus on [User Experience] UX.  Users
Who don't need your product have to *want* it."

The question for us is, where in that range are we?  We're clearly toward the 
no pricetag side, but not entirely.  There is a need basis also, especially 
around the fact that predictability is a big deal with regard to the handling 
of digital documents across platforms.

Look at the whole article.  Where are we?  And then how does management of risk 
fit?

 -- Dennis E. Hamilton
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Re: help how to create a patch

[John D'Orazio]

Yes I tried setting the CharBackTransparent boolean also, it had no effect.
>From my latest "research" I believe that it's not the case that transparent
and opaque values are being exchange, it's simply that OpenOffice doesn't
support transparency for background colors and because of this seems to use
"0x00" for the alpha bit (which would normally mean transparent rather than
opaque!).
The problem is that the Java Color Object and any other kind of Color
handling such as with JColorChooser, always set the alpha bit. So I'm
having to explicitly unset the alpha bit / set it to 0x00 before trying to
set the background color.
I believe this is something that can / should be handled behind the scenes,
by the OpenOffice API. If it doesn't support transparency it should however
check for the alpha bit and set it to whatever it likes it to be. So anyone
trying to set transparency will simply get opaque, rather than get nothing.


On Sat, Sep 19, 2015 at 4:31 PM, Carl Marcum  wrote:

> On 09/17/2015 07:24 PM, John D'Orazio wrote:
>
>> I believe I have found what can be considered a bug, or at least not
>> intended behaviour, in the way the OpenOffice API takes values from Java
>> when setting certain text properties (in this case "CharBackColor") using
>> the XPropertySet interface. I have been discussing this on a forum thread
>> (
>> https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=44=79294=364347
>> )
>> and have opened an issue for it on the bugzilla tracker (
>> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126531).
>>
>> I would be willing to look into it and work on a patch for this, if anyone
>> can point me in the right direction of where exactly to look in the Open
>> Office source code... I have been skimming over it in the svn repo (
>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/trunk/), but for a newcomer
>> it's hard to know where to look (I'm guessing it might have to do with the
>> XPropertySet interface, or wherever the Text Properties supported by the
>> interface are defined). If anyone can point me in the right direction I
>> can
>> try to look into it...
>>
>> Hi John,
>
> I'm actually just beginning to look into how the java jars are built so I
> may need corrected by someone.
>
> I think the java files are "Built" from IDL files and packaged into the
> jar files during a build process.
>
> I have only svn checked out the AOO code last night and begun looking.
>
> For instance if you search the codebase for XPropertySet the only java
> files I have found are in QA type directories.
>
> Have you tried to additionally set the CharBackTransparent boolean
> property as well [1].
>
> [1]
> https://www.openoffice.org/api/docs/common/ref/com/sun/star/style/CharacterProperties.html#CharBackColor
>
> Thanks,
> Carl
>
>
>
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