Re: Any 4.1.4 RC for Windows available for testing?

2017-06-16 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Raphael Bircher wrote:

Ok, 4.1.4 has to be done otherwise, but for the 4.2 Release... it would
be a solution.


Yes, this is always the same discussion... Sure, when and if the 
buildbots are complete and usable they can be used. I wrote that this 
didn't happen "so far". And judging from the speed with which buildbots 
issues are fixed, it seems clear that discussing buildbots is useless 
for 4.1.4; after 4.1.4 we can restart the usual buildbots discussion and 
see if that time it will be different.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: Apache licence vs cc-by-sa

2017-06-16 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi Guy,

I see that you found that the Apache License 2.0 is very permissive.

If use of your images in Apache projects like OpenOffice are desired then you 
may want to see https://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html to understand how 
various other Open Source licenses may or may not be used within an Apache 
release.

Of course you are free to release your material under as many licenses as you 
wish which allows others to reuse under the license of their choice.

Best Regards,
Dave

> On Jun 16, 2017, at 1:39 PM, Guy Waterval  wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> I have decided since for a while, to publish only under an Apache license
> all the photos that I upload to Wikimedia Commons, because they are
> destinated to an uni which will select those to integrate to its internal
> photographic collection. For this reason, I wish delivery the material with
> a maximum reusability, without any problem..
> For instance, I want to avoid that if some of my images shoud be inserted
> in a document (thesis or other works), they couldn't influence the
> conditions of use of the created document. I want to allow the author of
> the final document to choose whether to publish his document under a free
> license or not. Of course the internal parts under ALV2.0 are to be
> announced by a notice in the global document.
> Others tell me that it's also possible to do that with internal parts
> (texts or images) licenced under a cc-by-sa. But for me, a composite
> document integrating parts (images or texts) under a cc-by-sa license has
> to be licensed globally under cc-by-sa only, because this licence is not a
> permissive one. To be OK, a cc-by and not a cc-by-sa should be used in this
> case.
> 
> Thanks for your advices
> gw
> 
> 
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> sans virus. www.avast.com
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Apache licence vs cc-by-sa

2017-06-16 Thread Guy Waterval
Hello all,

I have decided since for a while, to publish only under an Apache license
all the photos that I upload to Wikimedia Commons, because they are
destinated to an uni which will select those to integrate to its internal
photographic collection. For this reason, I wish delivery the material with
a maximum reusability, without any problem..
For instance, I want to avoid that if some of my images shoud be inserted
in a document (thesis or other works), they couldn't influence the
conditions of use of the created document. I want to allow the author of
the final document to choose whether to publish his document under a free
license or not. Of course the internal parts under ALV2.0 are to be
announced by a notice in the global document.
Others tell me that it's also possible to do that with internal parts
(texts or images) licenced under a cc-by-sa. But for me, a composite
document integrating parts (images or texts) under a cc-by-sa license has
to be licensed globally under cc-by-sa only, because this licence is not a
permissive one. To be OK, a cc-by and not a cc-by-sa should be used in this
case.

Thanks for your advices
gw


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Re: Any 4.1.4 RC for Windows available for testing?

2017-06-16 Thread Peter Kovacs
+1

Am 16. Juni 2017 20:03:39 MESZ schrieb Raphael Bircher 
:
>Hello Andrea, *
>
>Am .06.2017, 18:53 Uhr, schrieb Andrea Pescetti :
>
>> Kay Schenk wrote:
>>> the philosophy behind building on Windows 10 (the ASF buildbots),
>>> and having the output product work on all Windows platforms.
>>
>> I wrote this many times already, but just to be sure nobody  
>> misunderstands, we never released anything that was built by the  
>> buildbots. So far, buildbots are only a way to ensure that the build 
>
>> process can be successful in different environments. But the builds
>they  
>> produce were never used as RCs or final builds.
>
>Yea, that's the situation at the moment. But I really would like to see
>a  
>change there. If the buildbot doew build for the release, we have no  
>longer to to search for builder who does the "official" build. Also you
> 
>would have more consistence in the builds.
>
>Only because we never did it before is not a reason to not do it,
>right?
>
>Ok, 4.1.4 has to be done otherwise, but for the 4.2 Release... it would
>be  
>a solution.
>
>Regards, Raphael

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Re: Any 4.1.4 RC for Windows available for testing?

2017-06-16 Thread Raphael Bircher

Hello Andrea, *

Am .06.2017, 18:53 Uhr, schrieb Andrea Pescetti :


Kay Schenk wrote:

the philosophy behind building on Windows 10 (the ASF buildbots),
and having the output product work on all Windows platforms.


I wrote this many times already, but just to be sure nobody  
misunderstands, we never released anything that was built by the  
buildbots. So far, buildbots are only a way to ensure that the build  
process can be successful in different environments. But the builds they  
produce were never used as RCs or final builds.


Yea, that's the situation at the moment. But I really would like to see a  
change there. If the buildbot doew build for the release, we have no  
longer to to search for builder who does the "official" build. Also you  
would have more consistence in the builds.


Only because we never did it before is not a reason to not do it, right?

Ok, 4.1.4 has to be done otherwise, but for the 4.2 Release... it would be  
a solution.


Regards, Raphael




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Re: Any 4.1.4 RC for Windows available for testing?

2017-06-16 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Kay Schenk wrote:

the philosophy behind building on Windows 10 (the ASF buildbots),
and having the output product work on all Windows platforms.


I wrote this many times already, but just to be sure nobody 
misunderstands, we never released anything that was built by the 
buildbots. So far, buildbots are only a way to ensure that the build 
process can be successful in different environments. But the builds they 
produce were never used as RCs or final builds.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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