Re: Request for Bugzilla karma

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 19/01/2021 Peter Kovacs wrote:

On 18.01.21 21:24, Arrigo Marchiori wrote:

I am subscribed with my own e-mail address and I would like to assign
bug 128424 to myself.

Is it possible to keep iss...@openoffice.apache.org in the loop? ...
If you just assig the issue to you I think we will not receive any 
notifications


You are right, and this should be fixed.

I believe that the issues mailing list is meant to receive notifications 
for any bug changes. But it seems the latest changes to

https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126369
(which was assigned to me even if Matthias did the work... thank you!)
were not sent to the issues list:
https://lists.apache.org/list.html?iss...@openoffice.apache.org:2020-12

If I recall correctly, we relied on a "trick" that would set the "QA 
contact" field for any new issues to the issues mailing list. Even if 
the assignee is changed, the "QA contact" is not reset and this meant 
the issues list received all notifications.


But I don't see it set even for issues recently created such as
https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=128420

Is there any Bugzilla configuration that must be fixed?

Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: High Priority Issues

[Arrigo Marchiori]

Hello Peter, All,

I am trying to give my opinion, from the pure perspective of a
newcome developer.

On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 09:40:47AM +0100, Peter Kovacs wrote:

> There is feedback from Jon Ha ojn Issues that are important from the support
> Forum perspective.
> 
> Please look into the following Issues:
> 
> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126846
> 
> (additional Info:
> https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7=1532 )

I understand that this meta-bug is about frequent bad and frustrating
behavior of OpenOffice, but from a developer point of view, I would
need some information to replicate such a data loss, so I could
inspect the software in the moment the problem is happening. I could
not find this kind of information in the above report and in the other
reports its first comments refer to.

Is there anyone more knowledgeable about this problem, who could help
track this bit down?

> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=128356

Reproduced with 4.1.9 and trunk. I can look into this one.

> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126927

I think that this issue can be generalized as a "lack of logging and
error reporting in AOO". This is one of my own pet peeves.

> plus Data loss on different occations see tutorials to:
> 
> https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=71=85038

This is really TL;DR -- can you help me understand if it is worth
reading all? It does not seem to be an error report, but rather a
``trick'' to restore lost information from leftover temporary files.

> https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=71=87180

This seem to be a ``surgical'' (quoted) way to recover from certain
data corruption, again not an error report; am I right?

> Hopoe that sums it up. You can read the detailed statement with some
> critical feedback here:
> 
> https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=49=104234=505002#p505009
> 
> (hope the link works)

Yes, it does. But it is another very long form thread, with many links
to bug reports.

I believe you have got a better picture of the overall situation;
could you please help us split it into smaller problems?

>From my humble point of view, bug 128356 shall be solved while working
on enhancing logging and error reporting at the same time; that would
be a great step towards solution of 126927.

I will start looking into the above, until someone with a better
overall picture will tell me otherwise.

Best regards,
-- 
Arrigo

http://rigo.altervista.org

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Re: OS2 code

[Marcus]

Am 23.01.21 um 23:46 schrieb Steve Lubbs:

How about something along the lines of:

 Begin Verbiage 
The following list of third-party ports and distributions is made 
available as a service to the community.The Apache OpenOffice project 
does not officially endorse or maintain these packages. If you have a 
port or distribution that you want to be listed here please send the 
details to our public mailing list .


In some cases the Apache OpenOffice project may be able to cooperate 
with the a porting project. If you wish to discuss how the Apache 
OpenOffice project may be able to help with your port please check here: 
.


 End Verbiage 


OK, I'll change the text. In a few days there will be a new release, so 
I'll put both together on the public website.


Thanks

Marcus




On 1/23/21 2:51 AM, Marcus wrote:

Am 22.01.21 um 20:22 schrieb Steve Lubbs:

Thanks Andrea for the additional clarification. I understand better now.

As for gitbox link, I don't have visibility yet beyond the HEAD which 
is completely understandable. But I can see the list is long!


Steve, after all this discussion, do you still see a need to improve 
the text on the webpage [1]? If so, do have maybe a suggestion what 
should be changed or added?


[1] https://www.openoffice.org/porting/index.html




On 1/20/21 3:49 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

On 18/01/2021 Steve Lubbs wrote:

So it seems that OS2 is not supported by the AOO project.


Correct.


I assume that the AOO project is not updating the OS2 code.


Wrong (well, kind of...). Yuri Dario is an Apache committer too; and 
we did incorporate the last changes he did into our source code; and 
if he contributes further changes, we will probably incorporate them 
again.


Still, OS/2 is "unsupported" because we cannot guarantee official 
releases and testing coverage. There are other situations where this 
could happen. For example, we release ~40 languages but we have 
partial translations for many more, see
https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf?p=openoffice.git;a=tree;f=extras/l10n/source;hb=HEAD 

and one might want to build and distribute OpenOffice in an 
"unsupported" language, which eventually can become "supported" if 
the person contributes back and helps complete the translation.



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