Re: Concerns about the AOO community

2014-10-22 Thread Mateusz Zasuwik
2014-10-22 9:56 GMT+02:00 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com:

 On 21/10/14 18:00, Mateusz Zasuwik wrote:
  For instance, here:
 
  In other words, for some reason, development of OpenOffice has all but
  stalled, while LibreOffice remains an active project.
 
  Much of OpenOffice's recent decline may be due to IBM's withdrawal from
 the
  project. OpenOffice 4.1.1. An anonymous informant alleges -- and web
  searches appear to confirm -- that IBM did nothing to publicize
 OpenOffice
  4.1.1 when it was released on August 21, and that, since then, IBM
  developers have disappeared from the OpenOffice mailing lists.

 well I see still IBM developers here on the list frequently but of
 course less. It is simply because we do less but it does not mean
 anything else.

 But the question is of course more why does it matter. If we do to much
 people say we control the project,if do to less people say OpenOffice is
 dead. Really strange and people should think about Apache and how Apache
 works. It is potentially a harder time for OpenOffice if we do less but
 it is up to the community to keep the project alive together with us.
 Nobody should rely on our resources and expect that we will do it.

 OpenOffice is and remains a powerful brand even if the projects runs
 slower. Important is the quality and if it solves the daily tasks of our
 users.



Hey Juergen.

Thank you for answer. So, for me, the most important question is why IBM
minimize its involvement?.

The part about controlling project is irrelevant for me, because every
project has its own carriage horse. For OO it was Sun/Oracle/IBM, for
LibreOffice it's SUSE, Collabora, Lanedo. The role of community is hype for
me. I am just a little surprised with speed of AOO development, especially
when we recall from memory IBM's announcements about Lotus Symphony's end
of life and when we recall their promises about release IBM OpenOffice
Edition. I thought this company will do their best to renew code,
interface and it will undertake tries to monetize this project what should
let OpenOffice thrive. Lotus contained many nice solutions i.g. tabs system
and now everything seems to be going down.

People (users) are worrying about OpenOffice status so I would like to just
rectify some opinions floating around. Many says that IBM alone stop
believing in OpenOffice. You confirm that IBM is doing less. Wiki is not
updated for a long time. So this symptoms are showing... what exactly?


Re: Concerns about the AOO community

2014-10-21 Thread Mateusz Zasuwik
For instance, here:

In other words, for some reason, development of OpenOffice has all but
stalled, while LibreOffice remains an active project.

Much of OpenOffice's recent decline may be due to IBM's withdrawal from the
project. OpenOffice 4.1.1. An anonymous informant alleges -- and web
searches appear to confirm -- that IBM did nothing to publicize OpenOffice
4.1.1 when it was released on August 21, and that, since then, IBM
developers have disappeared from the OpenOffice mailing lists.

http://www.linuxpromagazine.com/Online/Blogs/Off-the-Beat-Bruce-Byfield-s-Blog/LibreOffice-OpenOffice-and-rumors-of-unification

So if everything is ok, can someone reveal list of planned features for AOO
5.0 and answer for my other questions?