Re: Help.. Build error about missing processdeps.awk under Windows7

2014-09-02 Thread Steve Yin
Hi Hung,

The command make clean is for the folder main or module which is
changed to gbuild one. You can refer this wiki for more information.
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO

I think you cygwin version is OK.

Here is my configure parameters for your reference

autoconf
./configure \
--with-ant-home=/cygdrive/d/Apache/BuildTools/apache-ant-1.8.4 \
--with-cl-home=/cygdrive/d/Program\ Files\ \(x86\)/Microsoft\ Visual\
Studio\ 9.0/VC \
--with-mspdb-path=/cygdrive/d/Program\ Files\ \(x86\)/Microsoft\ Visual\
Studio\ 9.0/Common7/IDE \
--with-psdk-home=/cygdrive/d/Apache/BuildTools/MSSDK_v6.1 \
--with-directx-home=/cygdrive/d/Apache/BuildTools/directx \
--with-nsis-path=/cygdrive/d/Program\ Files\ \(x86\)/NSIS \
--with-frame-home=/cygdrive/d/Apache/BuildTools/MSSDK_v6.1 \
--with-midl-path=/cygdrive/d/Apache/BuildTools/MSSDK_v6.1/Bin \
--with-csc-path=/cygdrive/c/Windows/Microsoft.NET/Framework/v3.5 \
--with-asm-home=/cygdrive/d/Program\ Files\ \(x86\)/Microsoft\ Visual\
Studio\ 9.0/VC/Bin \
--with-jdk-home=/cygdrive/d/Program\ Files\ \(x86\)/Java/jdk1.7.0_25 \
--with-dmake-url=
http://dmake.apache-extras.org.codespot.com/files/dmake-4.12.tar.bz2 \
--with-epm-url=
http://ftp.funet.fi/pub/mirrors/ftp.easysw.com/pub/epm/3.7/epm-3.7-source.tar.gz
\
--without-junit --without-stlport --enable-verbose --enable-category-b
--enable-bundled-dictionaries --with-dict --disable-nss-module
./bootstrap
source ./winenv.set.sh
cd instsetoo_native/
build --all -P4



On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 8:42 AM, Hung Mark mark...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Steve,

 How to run make clean under solenv?
 Do you mean build --prepare --from solenv ?

 I rebuild by  removing evrything not in original repository, except
 main/external  extra_source.
 But it still doesn't work.

 Is it related to cygwin ?
 I'm using 1.7.32

 or Make  autoconf ?
 Here are my versions:
 $ make -v
 GNU Make 4.0
 Built for i686-pc-cygwin
 Copyright (C) 1988-2013 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
 License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later 
 http://gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html
 
 This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it.
 There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law.

 mh@Aoodev-Win7 ~/aoo/main
 $ autoconf -h
 Usage: /usr/bin/autoconf-2.69 [OPTION]... [TEMPLATE-FILE]

 Sincerely.





 2014-09-01 10:51 GMT+08:00 Steve Yin steve.yin@gmail.com:

  I have never seen this problem before, but you can try to run make
 clean
  under the folder solenv and rebuild it to check if the problem still
  exists.
 
 
  On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 12:58 PM, Hung Mark mark...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   I'm bulding latest OpenOffice source code under Windows 7 (64-bit).
  
   It complaint about missing processdeps.awk in gtest module (complete
  error
   message in the attached file):
  
   awk: fatal: can't open source file
   `C:/cygwinc:/cygwin/home/mh/aoo/main/solenv/gbuild/processdeps.awk' for
   reading (No such file or directory)
  
   I found a similar post when searching the mailing list archive,   it
 said
   that the error message disappear after changing from source release to
   subversion repository. I tried, but building code with subversion repos
   does not solve the problem
  
  
   Here is how I configure it:
  
   export SourceMain=`pwd`
   export SDK_PATH=/cygdrive/c/Program Files/Microsoft SDKs/Windows/v7.0
   autoconf  \
   ./configure \
--with-frame-home=$SDK_PATH \
--with-psdk-home=$SDK_PATH \
--with-midl-path=$SDK_PATH/bin \
--disable-directx  \
--enable-dbgutil \
--with-ant-home=/cygdrive/c/apache-ant-1.9.4 \
--with-cl-home=/cygdrive/c/PROGRA~2/MICROS~1.0/VC \
--with-java-home=/cygdrive/c/Program Files (x86)/Java/jdk1.7.0_67/ \
--with-dmake-url=
   http://dmake.apache-extras.org.codespot.com/files/dmake-4.12.tar.bz2;
 \
--with-epm-url=
   http://www.msweet.org/files/project2/epm-3.7-source.tar.gz; \
--enable-pch \
--disable-atl \
--disable-activex \
--disable-binfilter \
--without-junit \
--with-lang=en-US zh-TW
  
  
   When I check winenv.set.sh , there is still lots of environment
 variable
   begin with C:\,
   I'm not sure if it is the cause of the problem. Could any one suggest
 how
   to build it properly? Thanks.
  
  
  
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Re: Help.. Build error about missing processdeps.awk under Windows7

2014-08-31 Thread Steve Yin
I have never seen this problem before, but you can try to run make clean
under the folder solenv and rebuild it to check if the problem still
exists.


On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 12:58 PM, Hung Mark mark...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm bulding latest OpenOffice source code under Windows 7 (64-bit).

 It complaint about missing processdeps.awk in gtest module (complete error
 message in the attached file):

 awk: fatal: can't open source file
 `C:/cygwinc:/cygwin/home/mh/aoo/main/solenv/gbuild/processdeps.awk' for
 reading (No such file or directory)

 I found a similar post when searching the mailing list archive,   it said
 that the error message disappear after changing from source release to
 subversion repository. I tried, but building code with subversion repos
 does not solve the problem


 Here is how I configure it:

 export SourceMain=`pwd`
 export SDK_PATH=/cygdrive/c/Program Files/Microsoft SDKs/Windows/v7.0
 autoconf  \
 ./configure \
  --with-frame-home=$SDK_PATH \
  --with-psdk-home=$SDK_PATH \
  --with-midl-path=$SDK_PATH/bin \
  --disable-directx  \
  --enable-dbgutil \
  --with-ant-home=/cygdrive/c/apache-ant-1.9.4 \
  --with-cl-home=/cygdrive/c/PROGRA~2/MICROS~1.0/VC \
  --with-java-home=/cygdrive/c/Program Files (x86)/Java/jdk1.7.0_67/ \
  --with-dmake-url=
 http://dmake.apache-extras.org.codespot.com/files/dmake-4.12.tar.bz2; \
  --with-epm-url=
 http://www.msweet.org/files/project2/epm-3.7-source.tar.gz; \
  --enable-pch \
  --disable-atl \
  --disable-activex \
  --disable-binfilter \
  --without-junit \
  --with-lang=en-US zh-TW


 When I check winenv.set.sh , there is still lots of environment variable
 begin with C:\,
 I'm not sure if it is the cause of the problem. Could any one suggest how
 to build it properly? Thanks.



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Re: [VOTE]: Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.1 (RC3)

2014-08-17 Thread Steve Yin
+1 No critical issue found on Windows and Mac.


On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 10:08 AM, Jose R R jose@metztli.com wrote:

 
 http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/milestones/4.1.1-rc3-r1617669/binaries/en-US/Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.1_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US.tar.gz
 

 
 http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/milestones/4.1.1-rc3-r1617669/binaries/en-US/Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.1_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US.tar.gz.asc
 

 
 http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/milestones/4.1.1-rc3-r1617669/binaries/en-US/Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.1_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US.tar.gz.sha256
 

 -1 Sorry to disagree. I downloaded once more the relevant files:
 checksum and gpg --verify fail

  https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BvSRw_VCMAIezN2.png:large 

 On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 5:35 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 12:15 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  Hi all,
 
  this is a call for vote on releasing the available release candidate
  (RC3) as Apache OpenOffice 4.1.1.
 
  Apache OpenOffice 4.1.1 is mainly a bugfix release with some important
  bugfixes. And we can provide again more complete UI translations and
  have now support for 41 languages. New languages for this release
  compared to 4.1.0 are Catalan, Catalan (Valencia AVL) and Catalan
  (Valencia RACV).
 
  Apache OpenOffice 4.1.1 is the continuation of high quality software
  releases.
 
  An overview of the integrated release issues can be found under:
 
 
 
 http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/milestones/4.1.1-rc3-r1617669/AOO4.1.1_fixes.html
 
  The release candidate artifacts (source release, as well as binary
  releases for 41 languages) and further information how to verify and
  review Apache OpenOffice 4.1.1 can be found on the following wiki page:
 
 
 
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds
 
  (alternative directly via
  http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/milestones/4.1.1-rc3-r1617669)
 
  *.dmg files are still not recognized as binaries and have to be
  saved manually (save link as ...).
 
  The RC is based on the release branch AOO410, revision 1617669! And a
  fresh and clean RAT scan output of this revision can be found under
 
 
 
 http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/milestones/4.1.1-rc3-r1617669/AOO4.1.1_RAT_Scan.html
 
  Please vote on releasing this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.1.1
 
  The vote starts now and will be open until:
 
 Tuesday, 19 August: 2014-08-19 12:00am UTC+2.
 
  We invite all people to vote (non binding) on this RC. We would like
  to provide a release that is supported by the majority of our project
  members.
 
 [ ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.1.1
 [ ]  0 Don't care
 [ ] -1 Do not release this package because...
 
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  +1  Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.1.1
 
  Downloaded and tested Linux-32 binary. Verified all checksums for this
  version.
  Randomly verified checksums for other versions and languages.
 
  Rechecked all release blocker items that pertained to Linux or general as
  fixed.
 
  Tested with test area documents and my own.
 
 
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Re: [FEATURE][DISCUSS] The values of upper and lower spacing for default paragraph did the complete opposite

2014-06-23 Thread Steve Yin
Hi Juergen,

Sorry for the late reply.

I tested some cases and confirmed that the change does not affect existing
documents. The new default spacing value merely applies on new created
slides. Thanks.


On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 4:30 PM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com
wrote:

 On 13/06/14 11:43, Shenfeng Liu wrote:
  2014-06-13 15:16 GMT+08:00 Steve Yin steve.yin@gmail.com:
 
  Hi,
 
  The spacing size between lines is inconspicuous. But in some cases, it
  becomes a disturbing problem. This bug shows the problem:
  https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=125090. In the
 attachment, I
  put 2 screenshots to illustrate the issue.
 
  The patch is ready.
 
  Should we change it?
 
 
  +1 to change the default line space from bottom to top, which will make
 the
  layout align more to the content logic.
  Currently I spent a lot of time to change the default line space in my
  presentations.
 
  While currently we are working on 4.1.1. I think this change should
 belong
  to a big release, e.g. 4.2.

 yes definitely nothing for 4.1.1

 But I have a further question because changing default is always tricky.
 Have you tested to open existing documents with this new default. Do
 they still work and looking good or has the new default any impact on
 older documents? The question is often if such defaults are written to
 files or not.

 But in general the change sounds reasonable to me.

 Juergen

 
 
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[FEATURE][DISCUSS] The values of upper and lower spacing for default paragraph did the complete opposite

2014-06-13 Thread Steve Yin
Hi,

The spacing size between lines is inconspicuous. But in some cases, it
becomes a disturbing problem. This bug shows the problem:
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=125090. In the attachment, I
put 2 screenshots to illustrate the issue.

The patch is ready.

Should we change it?

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Re: [VOTE]: Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 (RC4)

2014-04-28 Thread Steve Yin
+1. No critical issue has been found in RC4 until now.


On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 11:11 PM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi all,

 this is a call for vote on releasing the available release candidate
 (RC4) as Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0.

 Apache OpenOffice 4.1 is a minor update with many bugfixes and at least
 2 major improvements. It's the first version where we have the
 iAccessibility2 support integrated and available. A very huge step
 forward to reach and better support disabled users especially on
 Windows. The second improvement is the switch to 64 bit on MacOS. A long
 and overdue must do shift forward to support newer APIs (replace
 deprecated APIs)  and platforms on MacOS.
 And we can provide again more complete UI translations and have now
 support for 38 languages. New languages for this release compared to
 4.0.1 are Bulgarian, Danish, Hebrew, Hindi, Norwegian Bokmal and Thai.

 Apache OpenOffice 4.1 will be a further key milestone to continue the
 success of OpenOffice.

 An overview of the integrated release issues can be found under:

 http://people.apache.org/~jsc/milestones/4.1.0-rc4/AOO4.1.0_RC4_fixes.html

 The RC4 fixed 2 further problems:
 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124682
 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124701

 RC3:
 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124617
 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124639

 RC2:
 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124599
 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124607
 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124509
 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124394


 The release candidate artifacts (source release, as well as binary
 releases for 38 languages) and further information how to verify and
 review Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 can be found on the following wiki page:


 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds

 (alternative directly via
 http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/milestones/4.1.0-rc4)

 *.dmg files are currently not recognized as binaries and have to be
 saved manually (save link as ...).

 The RC is based on the release branch AOO410, revision 1589052! And a
 fresh and clean RAT scan output of this revision can be found under

 http://people.apache.org/~jsc/milestones/4.1.0-rc4/AOO4.1.0_RAT_Scan.html

 Please vote on releasing this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0

 The vote starts now and will be open until:

Monday, 28 April: 2014-04-28 10:00pm UTC+2.

 But we invite all people to vote (non binding) on this RC. We would like
 to provide a release that is supported by the majority of our project
 members.

[ ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0
[ ]  0 Don't care
[ ] -1 Do not release this package because...




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Re: Re:Re: Re: Display About OpenOffice

2014-04-23 Thread Steve Yin
Hi Osimeno,

I installed the AOO 4.1 RC3 Chinese version on my RHEL 6.5 (64bit English
version). But I cannot reproduce your problem. Because all UI strings use
Unicode for encoding, I think it should not be related to locale settings.
And if possible you can try to change it back to Chinese and see if the
issue can be solved.


On Sat, Apr 19, 2014 at 12:08 PM, osimeno osim...@163.com wrote:

 hi,
   Do you need some other infomation ? I had reintasll the software,but
 it can't resolve the problem.

  Thank You!
 在 2014-04-16 20:20:08,osimeno osim...@163.com 写道:

  Hi :
  I used chinese on redhat,but i had changed the language to
 english,the problem always be there。





 At 2014-04-16 14:16:53,Yuzhen Fan fanyuz...@gmail.com wrote:

  Dear osimeno,

 What's the locale in your Redhat?

 Steve, could you please have a look at this problem? Thanks!


 On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 3:36 PM, osimeno osim...@163.com wrote:


 Dear Yuzhen Fan,Marcus:

  Here is the pirture.The attachment.
  Thanks~





 At 2014-04-15 03:39:04,Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote:
 Am 04/14/2014 12:26 PM, schrieb Yuzhen Fan:
  Hi
 
  Please send the picture you mentioned as attachment, I guess you just
  pasted it as RTF in your original email which is not displayed.
 
  On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 9:46 AM, osimenoosim...@163.com  wrote:
 
 
  Thanks dear Marcus,
I send a picture on last mail,maybe you can't see
  that.The problem is there are some characters display like box,some
  characters display chinese very well.I want to show chinese all,but i 
  don't
  know how to do.
 
 I'm sorry but I'm not familiar with Chinese. Please send your question
 to the Users mailing list. I'm sure there are much more people with
 Chinese skills who can help you. See here:
 
 http://openoffice.apache.org/mailing-lists.html#users-mailing-list-public

 
 Thanks
 
 Marcus
 
 
 
  At 2014-04-12 03:16:45,Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de  wrote:
  Am 04/11/2014 07:38 AM, schrieb osimeno:
  Hi,
  I had installed the openoffice 4,there are some problems maybe you can
  help me.
  My system is rhel6.3_X64 and use chinese .
  My first step : tar -xvf openoffice -C /usr/src/
  My second step : cd /usr/src/zh-CN/RPMS
  rpm - ivh openoffice-*
  My third step : cd desktop*
  rpm -ivh openoffice4.0-redhat*
  And i had reboot the system.
  the problem is that:
 
  so can you help me?
 
  Unfortunately, you don't have mentioned the actual problem or error
  message. Nevertheless I would recommend you to use the users mailing
  list for discussing problems:
 
  http://openoffice.apache.org/mailing-lists.html#users-mailing-list-public
 
  Marcus






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Re: ApacheCon Denver, genLang and buildsystem talk.

2014-04-10 Thread Steve Yin
What a prospect for AOO building system this opens!


On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 11:40 AM, jan i j...@apache.org wrote:

 Hi

 For those interested, my presentations around AOO can be found at
 http://people.apache.org/~jani/genlang.pdf
 http://people.apache.org/~jani/buildSysAOO.pdf

 There is a chance that I will present an updated version November in
 Budapest (ApacheCon Europe).

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Re: [RELEASE]: propose AOO 4.1.0 RC

2014-04-04 Thread Steve Yin
No problem found.


On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Steve Yin steve.yin@gmail.com wrote:

 It's great to hear that. I am going to try the new package now.


 On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 12:31 PM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.comwrote:

 On 4/3/14 6:06 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
  On 4/3/14 5:43 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
  On 4/3/14 5:34 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
  ATTENTION: we have to repackage the windows builds, the vote will
  continue because we change nothing, just repackage the install
 packages
 
  I have built with the release=t flag to be prepared for future patches
  that will allow us for example to upgrade a 4.1 or 4.2 to an 4.3. The
  whole mechanism is very complex and it seems that we have overseen a
  small detail. No big thing we just have to rebuild for now and have to
  test the patch mechanism a little bit more.
 
  That means also that the msp have to be used even more careful. They
  work to upgrade a 4.0.1 to a 4.1 but the next msp for a potential 4.2
 or
  4.1.1 can't be applied to a patched 4.0.1.
 
  The current problem is that the new full install sets can't be
 installed
  over an existing 4.0.1 this. Something that we don't want for now ;-)
 
  I will delete the full install sets now to avoid further confusion. Stay
  tuned probably tomorrow the new builds are available.

 Ok, Windows full install sets are replaced. I wish you all happy testing
 and voting and will be back on Monday.

 We have only repackaged that means the about dialog will contain the
 same values as before.

 Juergen


 
  Juergen
 
 
  Juergen
 
 
  Juergen
 
 
  On 4/2/14 3:16 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
  Hi,
 
  FOLLOW UP discussion please on the dev list!!!
 
  Last week I proposed a final schedule for our upcoming AOO 4.1
 release.
  We are a little bit behind because the fact that we had to fix some
  further critical issues. Nevertheless I would like to propose a
 first RC
  based on revision 1583666 from the AOO410 branch. We spend a lot of
 time
  in preparing the RC in time and the upload is ongoing. The MacOS and
  Windows versions are already available and the Linux upload is still
  ongoing. But keep in mind the binaries are for convenience and the
  release relevant bits are the source release.
 
  The RC builds can be found as always under
 
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds
 
  An overview of the fixes issues, enhancements and tasks going into
 this
  release can be found under
 
 http://people.apache.org/~jsc/milestones/4.1.0-rc/AOO4.1.0_RC_fixes.html.
  I invite all volunteers to help with the verification of the fixed
  issues. Especially the issues related to translation updates/fixes
  should be verified by native speakers.
 
  A related RAT scan can be found under
 
 http://people.apache.org/~jsc/milestones/4.1.0-rc/AOO4.1.0_RAT_Scan.html
 
  I have also prepared patches (msp) for Windows and for the languages
 we
  have released with AOO 4.0.1. The patches are intended for private
 use
  only and of course for testing but not for the release. It's the
 first
  time that we prepared a complete set of patches and we have to test
 the
  functionality a little bit more. The related full install sets are
  prepared for patches in the future and can release patches in the
 future
  as well if they work as expected. By the way I have upgraded AOO
 4.0.1
  (en-US) on my Windows laptop with the msp to AOO 4.1 ;-)
 
  I plan to start a vote for this RC later today and let it run until
  Sunday night, means enough time to test and evaluate the bits
 careful.
  Linux binaries will be available tomorrow latest.
 
  We have not fixed and integrated all requested showstoppers because
 they
  were not all showstoppers from my perspective and we should take into
  account that we have limited resources in the project able to fix
  issues. We focused on issues that are obviously showstoppers and on
  those who are relevant for most of our users.
 
 
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Re: [RELEASE]: propose AOO 4.1.0 RC

2014-04-04 Thread Steve Yin
Same symptom. And the shortcut named OpenOffice 4.0.1 is still on the
desktop. But these old version stuffs can be removed manually.


On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Yuzhen Fan fanyuz...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Pedro,

 Could you please report it in bugzilla and help to confirm if it has the
 same problem when install 4.0.1 over an existing 4.0.0? Thanks!


 On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 3:13 PM, Pedro Lino pedl...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi all
 
  First of all I would like to say that I'm *really* happy that update
  patches have arrived for the Windows OS. I was almost sure that I would
  never see this in a StarOffice derivative. Kudos to the AOO developers!
 
  I have installed scenario 2 (- Upgrade install 4.1.0 over an existing
  4.0.1) with en_US and PT under Windows XP Pro x86 SP3 en_US.
 
  Overall everything seems to be working perfectly but there is a small
  quirk: the Startup Group for 4.0.1 is not removed so you end up with two
  startup groups with different names pointing at the same folder.
 
  In addition the OpenOffice logo shows on the 4.0.1 group but not on the
  4.1.0.
 
  I know these are small cosmetic problems but could be confusing for
 users.
 
  I can create a bugzilla report if necessary.
 
  Regards,
  Pedro
 
 
  On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 7:43 AM, Yuzhen Fan fanyuz...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   Thanks Steve for your verification on installation of new package on
  en_US.
  
   From testing perspective:
   1. The repackage changes nothing on functions, so previous and ongoing
   tests are still valid and there is no need for retesting.
   2. But we need to retest the installation for below two typical
 scenarios
   on all language packages
   - Clean install 4.1.0 with no existing versions(e.g. 4.0.1)
   - Upgrade install 4.1.0 over an existing 4.0.1
  
  
  
   On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 2:09 PM, Steve Yin steve.yin@gmail.com
  wrote:
  
No problem found.
   
   
On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Steve Yin steve.yin@gmail.com
   wrote:
   
 It's great to hear that. I am going to try the new package now.


 On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 12:31 PM, Jürgen Schmidt 
  jogischm...@gmail.com
wrote:

 On 4/3/14 6:06 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
  On 4/3/14 5:43 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
  On 4/3/14 5:34 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
  ATTENTION: we have to repackage the windows builds, the vote
  will
  continue because we change nothing, just repackage the install
 packages
 
  I have built with the release=t flag to be prepared for future
patches
  that will allow us for example to upgrade a 4.1 or 4.2 to an
  4.3.
The
  whole mechanism is very complex and it seems that we have
   overseen a
  small detail. No big thing we just have to rebuild for now and
   have
to
  test the patch mechanism a little bit more.
 
  That means also that the msp have to be used even more
 careful.
   They
  work to upgrade a 4.0.1 to a 4.1 but the next msp for a
  potential
4.2
 or
  4.1.1 can't be applied to a patched 4.0.1.
 
  The current problem is that the new full install sets can't be
 installed
  over an existing 4.0.1 this. Something that we don't want for
 now
   ;-)
 
  I will delete the full install sets now to avoid further
  confusion.
Stay
  tuned probably tomorrow the new builds are available.

 Ok, Windows full install sets are replaced. I wish you all happy
   testing
 and voting and will be back on Monday.

 We have only repackaged that means the about dialog will contain
 the
 same values as before.

 Juergen


 
  Juergen
 
 
  Juergen
 
 
  Juergen
 
 
  On 4/2/14 3:16 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
  Hi,
 
  FOLLOW UP discussion please on the dev list!!!
 
  Last week I proposed a final schedule for our upcoming AOO
 4.1
 release.
  We are a little bit behind because the fact that we had to
 fix
   some
  further critical issues. Nevertheless I would like to
 propose a
 first RC
  based on revision 1583666 from the AOO410 branch. We spend a
  lot
   of
 time
  in preparing the RC in time and the upload is ongoing. The
  MacOS
and
  Windows versions are already available and the Linux upload
 is
still
  ongoing. But keep in mind the binaries are for convenience
 and
   the
  release relevant bits are the source release.
 
  The RC builds can be found as always under
 

   
  
 
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds
 
  An overview of the fixes issues, enhancements and tasks going
   into
 this
  release can be found under
 

   
  http://people.apache.org/~jsc/milestones/4.1.0-rc/AOO4.1.0_RC_fixes.html
   .
  I invite all volunteers to help with the verification of the
   fixed
  issues. Especially the issues related

Re: [VOTE]: Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 (RC)

2014-04-03 Thread Steve Yin
+1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0

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Re: [RELEASE]: propose AOO 4.1.0 RC

2014-04-03 Thread Steve Yin
It's great to hear that. I am going to try the new package now.


On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 12:31 PM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.comwrote:

 On 4/3/14 6:06 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
  On 4/3/14 5:43 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
  On 4/3/14 5:34 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
  ATTENTION: we have to repackage the windows builds, the vote will
  continue because we change nothing, just repackage the install packages
 
  I have built with the release=t flag to be prepared for future patches
  that will allow us for example to upgrade a 4.1 or 4.2 to an 4.3. The
  whole mechanism is very complex and it seems that we have overseen a
  small detail. No big thing we just have to rebuild for now and have to
  test the patch mechanism a little bit more.
 
  That means also that the msp have to be used even more careful. They
  work to upgrade a 4.0.1 to a 4.1 but the next msp for a potential 4.2
 or
  4.1.1 can't be applied to a patched 4.0.1.
 
  The current problem is that the new full install sets can't be installed
  over an existing 4.0.1 this. Something that we don't want for now ;-)
 
  I will delete the full install sets now to avoid further confusion. Stay
  tuned probably tomorrow the new builds are available.

 Ok, Windows full install sets are replaced. I wish you all happy testing
 and voting and will be back on Monday.

 We have only repackaged that means the about dialog will contain the
 same values as before.

 Juergen


 
  Juergen
 
 
  Juergen
 
 
  Juergen
 
 
  On 4/2/14 3:16 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
  Hi,
 
  FOLLOW UP discussion please on the dev list!!!
 
  Last week I proposed a final schedule for our upcoming AOO 4.1
 release.
  We are a little bit behind because the fact that we had to fix some
  further critical issues. Nevertheless I would like to propose a first
 RC
  based on revision 1583666 from the AOO410 branch. We spend a lot of
 time
  in preparing the RC in time and the upload is ongoing. The MacOS and
  Windows versions are already available and the Linux upload is still
  ongoing. But keep in mind the binaries are for convenience and the
  release relevant bits are the source release.
 
  The RC builds can be found as always under
 
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds
 
  An overview of the fixes issues, enhancements and tasks going into
 this
  release can be found under
 
 http://people.apache.org/~jsc/milestones/4.1.0-rc/AOO4.1.0_RC_fixes.html.
  I invite all volunteers to help with the verification of the fixed
  issues. Especially the issues related to translation updates/fixes
  should be verified by native speakers.
 
  A related RAT scan can be found under
 
 http://people.apache.org/~jsc/milestones/4.1.0-rc/AOO4.1.0_RAT_Scan.html
 
  I have also prepared patches (msp) for Windows and for the languages
 we
  have released with AOO 4.0.1. The patches are intended for private use
  only and of course for testing but not for the release. It's the first
  time that we prepared a complete set of patches and we have to test
 the
  functionality a little bit more. The related full install sets are
  prepared for patches in the future and can release patches in the
 future
  as well if they work as expected. By the way I have upgraded AOO 4.0.1
  (en-US) on my Windows laptop with the msp to AOO 4.1 ;-)
 
  I plan to start a vote for this RC later today and let it run until
  Sunday night, means enough time to test and evaluate the bits careful.
  Linux binaries will be available tomorrow latest.
 
  We have not fixed and integrated all requested showstoppers because
 they
  were not all showstoppers from my perspective and we should take into
  account that we have limited resources in the project able to fix
  issues. We focused on issues that are obviously showstoppers and on
  those who are relevant for most of our users.
 
 
  Juergen
 
 
 
 


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Re: volunteer

2014-04-02 Thread Steve Yin
Hi Tiago,

Welcome to AOO community!
Could you also subscribe the Localization Mailing
Listhttp://openoffice.apache.org/mailing-lists.html#localization-mailing-list-public?
Thank you.


On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 5:22 AM, Tiago Leichsenring tiagolei...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi,
 my name is Tiago and I am Brazilian. I would like to work with you as a
 translator, I can translate into Portuguese and help you to create a
 grammar and spelling corrector.

 Best regards

 --
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Re: Comments on IAccessible2 Implementation with Screen Readers

2014-03-24 Thread Steve Yin
 attempted to convey this in my reply and later spoke with
  John Carson in their escalation department about this, who told me that
 he
  would report it to the appropriate people in product development.  I
 don't
  necessarily think that what I'm finding are OpenOffice bugs, which is
 why I
  haven't filed any tickets as bug reports.  I just wanted to give those
  interested on the list a report about my initial findings.
  If there are specific things you'd like me to test or play with, please
  let me know as I'd be happy and honored to assist.
 
  David Goldfield
  http://davidgoldfield.wordpress.com
 
 
 
  *David Goldfield*
  *Computer Technology Instructor*
  *919 Walnut Street*
  *4th Floor*
  *Philadelphia, PA  19107*
 
  *215-627-0600 ext 3277 215-627-0600%20ext%203277*
  *FAX:  215-922-0692 215-922-0692*
 
  *dgold...@asb.org* dgold...@asb.org
  *www.asb.org* http://www.asb.org
 
 
  Serving Philadelphia's and the nation's blind and visually impaired
  population since 1874.
 
   www.asb.org
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Re: [VOTE]: Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 Beta (RC)

2014-03-06 Thread Steve Yin
+1


On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 12:43 AM, Sandhya Sivakumar sans...@gmail.comwrote:

 +1


 On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 12:55 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Hi all,
 
  this is a call for vote on releasing the available release candidate
  (RC) as Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 Beta. The Beta release is intended to
  reach more early adopters and to receive more valuable feedback to
  improve potentially critical areas for the final release.
 
  Apache OpenOffice 4.1 is a minor update with many bugfixes and at least
  2 major improvements. It's the first version where we have the
  iAccessibility2 support integrated and available. A very huge step
  forward to reach and better support disabled users especially on
  Windows. The second improvement is the switch to 64 bit on MacOS. A long
  and overdue must do shift forward to support newer APIs (replace
  deprecated APIs)  and platforms on MacOS.
  And we can provide again more complete UI translations and have now
  support for 37 languages. New languages for this release compared to
  4.0.1 are Bulgarian, Danish, Hindi, Norwegian Bokmal and Thai.
 
  Apache OpenOffice 4.1 will be a further key milestone to continue the
  success of OpenOffice.
 
  An overview of release issues can be found under:
 
 
 
 http://people.apache.org/~jsc/developer-snapshots/snapshot/AOO4.1.0_Beta_fixes.html
 
  The release candidate artifacts (1) (source release, as well as binary
  releases for 37 languages) and further information how to verify and
  review Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 Beta can be found on the following wiki
  page:
 
 
 
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds
 
  The RC is based on the release branch AOO410, revision 1573601! And a
  fresh and clean RAT scan output of this revision can be found under
 
 
 
 http://people.apache.org/~jsc/developer-snapshots/snapshot/AOO4.1.0_RAT_Scan.html
 
  Please vote on releasing this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 Beta
 
  The vote starts now and will be open until:
 
 Sunday evening, 9 March: 2014-03-09 11:00pm UTC.
 
  But we invite all people to vote (non binding) on this RC. We would like
  to provide a release that is supported by the majority of our project
  members.
 
 [ ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 Beta
 [ ]  0 Don't care
 [ ] -1 Do not release this package because...
 
 
 
  (1) the upload for the Linux 32 bit artifacts is still ongoing, but 64
  bit is already available.
 
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Re: New committer: Clarence Guo (clarence_guo)

2014-02-15 Thread Steve Yin
Clarence is an experienced developer. He has ten years development
experience on Symphony and AOO. Now he is focusing on OOXML export.

Congratulations!


On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 5:42 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:

 The Project Management Committee (PMC) for Apache OpenOffice has asked
 Clarence Guo to become a committer and we are pleased to announce that
 he has accepted and taken the ID clarence_guo.

 A warm welcome to Clarence!

 Regards,

 Rob, on behalf of the Apache OpenOffice PMC

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Welcome!

2014-02-12 Thread Steve Yin
Hi Andre,

Welcome to join accessibility testing of AOO!

AOO introduces IAccessible2 and will ship with its 4.1 Windows version.
Both JAWS and NVDA support IA2. And IA2 will be automatically enabled in
AOO.

Stuart already created a meta issue for tracking IA2 issues. The link is
here https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121767. You can create
new IA2 issues and add dependency on issue 121767.

If you have any questions please do not hesitate to contact us. Thanks.

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Call for testing on mail merge

2014-02-11 Thread Steve Yin
Hi,

I found I cannot connect to any smtp server with any correct settings. Does
anyone use mail merge successfully on the latest version? I'm not sure it
is a bug on this function. Let's start to test on it now.

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Re: Contribute code for OOXML export

2014-01-22 Thread Steve Yin
Great news!


On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 3:25 PM, Clarence GUO clarence.guo...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi~ All,
 Since Office 2007 Microsoft has defaulted to saving files in OOXML format.
 And soon, in April, Microsoft will stop supporting Office 2003, the last
 version of Office to write the binary format by default. So it becomes more
 and more important for AOO to have capability to support OOXML file format
 in order to help these users who need to work with OOXML files. AOO already
 has some capabilities for OOXML file import, but it needs many
 improvements. We have some pilot code for enabling OOXML export, developed
 by De Bin, Jian Yuan, Sun Ying, Jin Long... Although it still has some ways
 to go before ready for production, we'd like to contribute it first to AOO
 for further development so that more developers can work on the framework
 and continuously contribute their works. Since it still has many feature
 gaps, we propose to put it on a branch firstly, and continue to enhance it,
 and integrate it into a release only when we see it ready.

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Re: Building on Windows 7

2014-01-16 Thread Steve Yin
Hi Jonas,

It seems like a privilege issue. Maybe it was caused by cygwin. I think you
can run cygwin as administrator again and try.


On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 12:05 AM, jonasalfreds...@gmail.com 
jonasalfreds...@gmail.com wrote:

 Running build a second time produce the following:

 jonasalfredsson@TOMMY-TUMULT
 /cygdrive/c/source/aoo-trunk/main/instsetoo_native
 $ build --all:jpeg
 build -- version: 275224

 =
 Building module jpeg
 =

 Entering /cygdrive/c/source/aoo-trunk/main/jpeg

 mkdir: cannot create directory `./wntmsci12.pro/misc/build/jpeg-8d/': File
 exists
 /usr/bin/bash: line 1:  9236 Segmentation fault  (core dumped) dmake
 dmake:  Error code 139, while making
 './wntmsci12.pro/misc/build/so_built_jpeg'

 1 module(s): jpeg need(s) to be rebuilt

 Reason(s): ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making
 /cygdrive/c/source/aoo-trunk/main/jpeg

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Re: Interest in Volunteering With the OpenOffice Project

2014-01-08 Thread Steve Yin
Welcome Tyler!

For MSAA/IA2 bugs, please check the ia2 meta
issuehttps://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121767
 firstly, and please feel free to ask anything that you interested.



On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 5:00 PM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi Tyler,

 that sounds good and welcome at Apache OpenOffice. This is a mailing
 list and if you are interested in more information you can subscribe to
 this list by sending an email to dev-subscr...@openoffice.apache.org
 (you are currently not subscribed).

 More interesting for you is potentially the q...@openoffice.apache.org
 mailing list where QA relevant topics are discussed and where is less
 traffic. But you are welcome on all list.

 You can try our latest snapshot build for Windows and en-US which have
 integrated all the IAccessible2 enhancements from

 http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/install/winsnap/Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.0_Win_x86_install_en-US.exe_1554003.exe
 .


 Try to install and check out the IAccessible 2 support. For more
 detailed question I recommend the qa mailing list.

 Again welcome at OpenOffice and thanks for your interest to help us with
 the accessibility testing to make AOO available to even more people.
 Your help is highly appreciated.

 Kind regards

 Juergen

 On 1/6/14 3:09 AM, Tyler Kavanaugh wrote:
  Hello all:
 
  My name is Tyler Kavanaugh, and I am from Kansas, in the United States.
  I would very much like to be a part of the OpenOffice project, with a
  focus on QA/accessibility, as I am a blind user who uses screen-access
  software to accomplish everyday tasks on the computer. I am aware that
  the product recently (as of November or December 2013) finished its
  implementation of MSAA/IAccessible2, and this has piqued my interest.
  Where would you all suggest that I start?
 
  Thanks,
  -Tyler
 
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Re: Low vision

2013-12-17 Thread Steve Yin
Hi Wlada,

No new functionality for low vision users in the latest version. As for
other respects of accessibility, AOO gets IAccessible2 support now. I hope
this is helpful for you.


On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 5:00 AM, Vladislav Stevanovic 
stevanovicvladis...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello,
 I do not tracked discusion about that: does AOO get some new functionality
 for those persons with low vision?
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Re: Low vision

2013-12-17 Thread Steve Yin
Hi Wlada,

For IAccessible2 introduction, you can refer to the web page at
herehttp://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/accessibility/iaccessible2.
AOO gets IA2 support by migrating IAccessible2 feature from IBM Lotus
Symphony. You can use JAWS or NVDA for reading.


On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 4:47 AM, Vladislav Stevanovic 
stevanovicvladis...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yin,  IAccessible2 support - can you tell me more about that?

 Regards,
 Wlada


 2013/12/17 Steve Yin steve.yin@gmail.com

  Hi Wlada,
 
  No new functionality for low vision users in the latest version. As for
  other respects of accessibility, AOO gets IAccessible2 support now. I
 hope
  this is helpful for you.
 
 
  On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 5:00 AM, Vladislav Stevanovic 
  stevanovicvladis...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   Hello,
   I do not tracked discusion about that: does AOO get some new
  functionality
   for those persons with low vision?
   Wlada
  
 
 
 
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Re: [code] build breaker on Linux 64bit in introduced ia2 code

2013-11-15 Thread Steve Yin
Hi Oliver and Herbert,

Sorry for the break. Thank you all for fixing it so quickly!


On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 7:13 PM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann 
orwittm...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 kudos to Herbert.

 While I have written the below message Herbert has already provided the
 fix - see revision 1542228

 Steve, may be you can have an additional look at the unused parameters.

 Best regards, Oliver.


 On 15.11.2013 12:09, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:

 Hi Steve,

 can you please have look at the build breaker on Linux 64bit, found by
 our corresponding Linux 64bit build bot.

 The build breaks in module accessibility.
 The relevante build output is:
 build output
 ...
 Compiling: accessibility/source/standard/vclxaccessiblelist.cxx
 ...
 /home/buildslave19/slave19/openofficeorg-nightly/build/
 main/accessibility/source/standard/vclxaccessiblelist.cxx:
 In member function 'virtual void
 VCLXAccessibleList::ProcessWindowEvent(const VclWindowEvent, bool)':
 /home/buildslave19/slave19/openofficeorg-nightly/build/
 main/accessibility/source/standard/vclxaccessiblelist.cxx:372:
 error: cast from 'void*' to 'sal_uInt32' loses precision
 /home/buildslave19/slave19/openofficeorg-nightly/build/
 main/accessibility/source/standard/vclxaccessiblelist.cxx:
 At global scope:
 /home/buildslave19/slave19/openofficeorg-nightly/build/
 main/accessibility/source/standard/vclxaccessiblelist.cxx:606:
 warning: unused parameter 'bItemInserted'
 /home/buildslave19/slave19/openofficeorg-nightly/build/
 main/accessibility/source/standard/vclxaccessiblelist.cxx:606:
 warning: unused parameter 'nIndex'
 dmake:  Error code 1, while making
 '../../unxlngx6.pro/slo/vclxaccessiblelist.obj'
 /build output

 Until the next Linux 64bit build bot is started, the complete build
 output can be found at [1].

 [1]
 http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/buildlogs/linux64/
 main/accessibility/unxlngx6.pro/misc/logs/source.standard.txt



 Thanks in advance.

 Best regards, Oliver.


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Re: draft blog post: Apache OpenOffice 4.1 to Bring Enhanced Accessibility Support

2013-11-14 Thread Steve Yin
That reads better. : )


On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:

 On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 6:42 PM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de
 wrote:
  Am 11/13/2013 09:12 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
 
  On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Donald Whytockdwhyt...@apache.org
  wrote:
 
  On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 2:28 PM, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org  wrote:
 
  This will be something to post after Steve merges the code intro the
  trunk, which I understand will be soon:
 
 
 
 https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=apache_openoffice_4_1_to
 
  Does anyone have anything else to add?  A quote from an assistive
  technology vendor or accessibility expert would be good.
 
 
Looks good in general.  How does vision-impaired compare to blind
 or
  low-sight?
 
 
  Honestly, I'm not absolutely certain what the preferred term is these
  days.  I certainly don't want to cause offense by using the wrong
  words.  But I did see the term blind or low-sight on a website
  discussing assistive technologies.  If anyone (Stuart, maybe?) knows
  better, let me know.
 
 
  I had a remarkable experience when I wrote something about sound in
  StarOffice (yes, years ago) and how deaf people could work with it. The
 way
  of how to explain it was wrong with the wording I used, I had to correct
 it
  in in a policitcal correct way and give an apology to the group who
 wrote a
  mail to point me to the error.
 
  Therefore I would say it's better to spend more time than you think
 first to
  use the correct wordings.
 

 I searched for answers and found this, from the American Foundation
 for the Blind:

 When you speak about someone with a disability, refer to the person
 and then to the disability. For example, refer to a person who is
 blind rather than to a blind person.

 http://www.afb.org/section.aspx?SectionID=36TopicID=163DocumentID=2263

 Given those guidelines maybe we change the current:

 Support for these interfaces enables screen readers and other
 assistive technologies to work with Apache OpenOffice, which in turn
 enables more productive use of OpenOffice by blind and low-vision
 users.

 to

 Support for these interfaces enables screen readers and other
 assistive technologies to work with Apache OpenOffice, which in turn
 enables more productive use of OpenOffice users who are blind or have
 low-vision. ???

 Regards,

 -Rob

  I'm sure Steve can lend a helping hand here.
 
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Re: [Accessibility] IA2 should be enabled automatically

2013-11-14 Thread Steve Yin
Hi Juergen,

Yes. This option will be automatically checked only when AOO (Windows
version) detects screen reader or other ATs running.


On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 4:06 PM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.comwrote:

 On 11/14/13 7:16 AM, Liu Ping wrote:
  +1
  I agree that IA2 feature can be enabled automatically as default option
  ,which enable screen readers and other
  assistive technologies to work at beginning and convenient to most
  people who be eager to need this feature
 

 we should really differentiate, if AOO can detect a running screen
 reader or other assistive tools we can and should enable it. But only
 then and not by default.

 Juergen


 
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 wrote:
 
  Hi all,
 
  Based on this issue 
 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123643
  ,
  IA2 feature and the status of the option about accessibility check box
  should be enabled automatically when AOO detects screen reader running.
 Do
  you agree with that? Thanks.
 
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Re: [Accessibility] IA2 should be enabled automatically

2013-11-14 Thread Steve Yin
Agree with you. For AT detection, we use WM_GETOBJECT and
SPI_GETSCREENREADER flag. The check box is usefulness now and can be
removed from AOO Windows version.


On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 4:53 PM, Andre Fischer awf@gmail.com wrote:

 On 14.11.2013 04:34, Steve Yin wrote:

 Hi all,

 Based on this issue https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123643
 ,

 IA2 feature and the status of the option about accessibility check box
 should be enabled automatically when AOO detects screen reader running. Do
 you agree with that? Thanks.


 I don't think that we should change the check box.  If we can detect
 accessibility support easily (without loading large libraries or starting
 Java) then I would prefer the Linux way (did not check Mac).  On Linux
 there is no accessibility check box.  You activate or deactivate
 accessibility via the system.  If we can do that on Windows then we should
 do it and remove the checkbox.

 I looked at issue 123643.  The comments describe more than one way to
 detect accessibility support.  Which one is used by the commit (rev.
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Re: Re : RE: Re: [Accessibility] IA2 Integration proposal

2013-11-14 Thread Steve Yin
Hi Jean,

Maybe due to this issuehttps://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123643.
I made a temp fix for the branch and integrated with the branch into the
trunk. You can try the next trunk build. Thanks.


On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 6:20 PM, mengualjean...@free.fr wrote:

 Hi,

 My user is in the group named administrator. It likely explains why I
 don't have a run as admin command in the context menu.

 The command you suggest works. But after a reboot, nothing changes. OOO
 stays inaccessible for NVDA. I don't understand, all the more since it has
 been worked a few months ago.

 An idea?

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 Sujet:

 Re: [Accessibility] IA2 Integration proposal

 Date :

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 dev@openoffice.apache.org

 Pour :

 dev@openoffice.apache.org



 Hi Jean,

 You can run the console with administrator privilege and type regsvr32
 oleacc.dll then press Enter key.


 On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 6:26 PM, MENGUAL Jean-Philippe 
 mengualjean...@free.fr wrote:

  Hi,
 
  I use Windows XP Pro, and now I am working on r1540658.
 
  regsvr2.exe /U UAccCOM.dl says: module not found.
 
  How should I register
 
 
  oleacc.dll and oleaut32.dll? Is it relevant on XP (the bug you mention
  seems to be on W7).
 
  Regards,
 
 
 
  Le 11/11/2013 14:43, V Stuart Foote a écrit :
 
  Jean-Phillipe,
 
  Removal of earlier revisions of the ia2 branch may have corrupted the
 MSAA
  libraries.
 
  Have you unregistered UAccCOM.dll with a regsvr2.exe /U command, and
  have
 
  you tried re-registering the oleacc.dll and oleaut32.dll?
 
  Additional notes in issue  aoo#123640
  
 
 
   https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123640  .
 
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[Accessibility] IA2 should be enabled automatically

2013-11-13 Thread Steve Yin
Hi all,

Based on this issue https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123643,
IA2 feature and the status of the option about accessibility check box
should be enabled automatically when AOO detects screen reader running. Do
you agree with that? Thanks.

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Re: [Accessibility] IA2 Integration proposal

2013-11-13 Thread Steve Yin
Hi Jean,

You can run the console with administrator privilege and type regsvr32
oleacc.dll then press Enter key.


On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 6:26 PM, MENGUAL Jean-Philippe 
mengualjean...@free.fr wrote:

 Hi,

 I use Windows XP Pro, and now I am working on r1540658.

 regsvr2.exe /U UAccCOM.dl says: module not found.

 How should I register


 oleacc.dll and oleaut32.dll? Is it relevant on XP (the bug you mention
 seems to be on W7).

 Regards,



 Le 11/11/2013 14:43, V Stuart Foote a écrit :

 Jean-Phillipe,

 Removal of earlier revisions of the ia2 branch may have corrupted the MSAA
 libraries.

 Have you unregistered UAccCOM.dll with a regsvr2.exe /U command, and  have

 you tried re-registering the oleacc.dll and oleaut32.dll?

 Additional notes in issue  aoo#123640
 


  https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123640  .

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Re: [Accessibility] IA2 Integration proposal

2013-11-11 Thread Steve Yin
Hi all,

Bug 123619 (https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123619) was
fixed. I think there is no critical bug in the current version. So I think
I can start the integration work soon. For any concern about the branch
ia2, It would be great if you could reply the mail with your comments.
Thanks.


On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Steve Yin steve.yin@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Jean,

 Could you tell us more detail about your configuration? Such as your
 operating system, the version number of the IA2 branch build? Thanks.


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 mengualjean...@free.fr wrote:

 Hi,

 I thought it was temporary or due to my conf, but what are conditions to
 make the IA2 binary work? I've tested it for 2-3 binaries and it doesn't
 work anymore on my computer. My user has aanin permissions. But when I open
 OOo, I have as if they wouldn't be IA2, it stays really inaccessible. Some
 ideas?

 Regards,

 Le 08/11/2013 19:14, Andrew Rist a écrit :


 On 11/7/2013 11:42 PM, Steve Yin wrote:

 Hi all,

 The main development work for IA2 feature is finished on the branch ia2.

 That's great news!

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Re: ia2 Buildbot needs attention

2013-11-11 Thread Steve Yin
Based on Herbert suggestion, I will synchronize the branch with the latest
trunk. And the build issue will go away. :)


On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Steve Yin steve.yin@gmail.com wrote:

 It shows configure: error: Building SeaMonkey is supported with
 Microsoft Visual Studio .NET 2005 only.

 Was the build bot env changed?


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 Steve, Herbert

 We've got another hang-up on the ia2 branch--3 days with no build of
 r1539225.

 Looks like this might be related to  removal of SeaMonkey
 
 http://openoffice.2283327.n4.nabble.com/the-Seamonkey-has-left-the-building-tt4655461.html
 
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Re: [Accessibility] IA2 Integration proposal

2013-11-11 Thread Steve Yin
Hi Rob,

For the defects introduced by IA2 feature, I think the possible areas that
will be impacted are UI, document editing area, graphic objects. And no
visible changes will be made to dialogs. Another possible area will be
affected is stability. But the most issues will show up only when the IA2
feature is activated. Thanks.


On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 1:12 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:

 On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 2:42 AM, Steve Yin steve.yin@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  The main development work for IA2 feature is finished on the branch ia2.
  Although there are some bugs in the current revision, I propose to merge
  the branch to the trunk for involving more volunteers.
 

 Hi Steve,

 This is excellent news.  It sounds like you've made great progress in
 this big task.

 I'll start on a blog post to describe the work, based on your
 information.  We can use the blog post to let users know that this
 capability is coming in AOO 4.1 and maybe to call for more volunteers
 to help test.

 A question for you:  Is there a possibility of these changes
 introducing new defects in other areas of the product?  If so it would
 be good to get your opinion on what areas we should re-test to find
 any defects earlier.   For example, I assume parsing of documents is
 not effect by these changes.  But should we look for visible changes
 to dialogs?  If there are new bugs, what is your best guess for where
 they would show up?

 Regards,

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Re: ia2 Buildbot needs attention

2013-11-10 Thread Steve Yin
It shows configure: error: Building SeaMonkey is supported with Microsoft
Visual Studio .NET 2005 only.

Was the build bot env changed?


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 Steve, Herbert

 We've got another hang-up on the ia2 branch--3 days with no build of
 r1539225.

 Looks like this might be related to  removal of SeaMonkey
 
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Re: [Accessibility] IA2 Integration proposal

2013-11-10 Thread Steve Yin
Hi Jean,

Could you tell us more detail about your configuration? Such as your
operating system, the version number of the IA2 branch build? Thanks.


On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 12:23 PM, MENGUAL Jean-Philippe 
mengualjean...@free.fr wrote:

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 I thought it was temporary or due to my conf, but what are conditions to
 make the IA2 binary work? I've tested it for 2-3 binaries and it doesn't
 work anymore on my computer. My user has aanin permissions. But when I open
 OOo, I have as if they wouldn't be IA2, it stays really inaccessible. Some
 ideas?

 Regards,

 Le 08/11/2013 19:14, Andrew Rist a écrit :


 On 11/7/2013 11:42 PM, Steve Yin wrote:

 Hi all,

 The main development work for IA2 feature is finished on the branch ia2.

 That's great news!

 Although there are some bugs in the current revision, I propose to merge
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[Accessibility] IA2 Integration proposal

2013-11-07 Thread Steve Yin
Hi all,

The main development work for IA2 feature is finished on the branch ia2.
Although there are some bugs in the current revision, I propose to merge
the branch to the trunk for involving more volunteers.

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Re: [Call For QA Volunteers][Accessibility] AOO IAccessible2 testing work

2013-11-04 Thread Steve Yin
Hi Jamie,

The produce ui is under the General product. Please check it.


On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 4:20 PM, James Teh ja...@nvaccess.org wrote:

 I can't file bugs under the UI product now: Sorry, entering a bug into
 the product ui has been disabled. For now, I've just entered bugs into the
 UI component of the relevant application product. However, is there
 somewhere else I should be entering these that is more specific to
 accessibility?

 For reference, I've just filed bugs 123619, 123620 and 123622. I have more
 to file in the coming days.


 Jamie

 On 14/10/2013 6:24 PM, Steve Yin wrote:

 Hi all,

 The AOO IAccessible2 migration dev work will be done in a few days. We
 need
 QA volunteers to join the testing work and ensure the migration quality.

 The source can be get from here:
 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/branches/ia2
 The Windows build can be get from here:
 http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/#w7ia2

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Re: [Call For QA Volunteers][Accessibility] AOO IAccessible2 testing work

2013-11-04 Thread Steve Yin
Copy to aoo bugzilla admin for more help.

On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 6:01 PM, James Teh ja...@nvaccess.org wrote:

 Hi Steve,


 On 4/11/2013 7:32 PM, Steve Yin wrote:

 The produce ui is under the General product. Please check it.

 Right, but there's an AccessBridge component under the UI product which
 seems more specific than just General - UI or Calc/Writer - UI. The [ia2]
 prefix helps to distinguish the bugs I'm filing, but it still seems odd for
 them to just be in a component as broad as UI.

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Re: [Call For QA Volunteers][Accessibility] AOO IAccessible2 testing work

2013-11-03 Thread Steve Yin
Hi Jamie,

I will focus on this issue later.


On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 2:37 PM, James Teh ja...@nvaccess.org wrote:

 Hi Steve,

 Unfortunately, I'm again seeing the problem with Writer being invisible if
 started via swriter.exe. Specifically:

 When Writer starts, the main
 window is invisible and isn't in the alt+tab task switcher or the
 running applications bar. Furthermore, I can't see any text in the
 document when I look at the object hierarchy. I can access the menus,
 though.

 This doesn't happen if I start Writer by opening soffice.exe and selecting
 Text document. It also doesn't happen for scalc.exe.

 I'm still seeing this crash on exiting Writer:
 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121761
 I've found other issues as well, but will file separate bugs for those.

 Jamie


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 The AOO IAccessible2 migration dev work will be done in a few days. We
 need
 QA volunteers to join the testing work and ensure the migration quality.

 The source can be get from here:
 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/branches/ia2
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Deadlock issue in sal module

2013-10-29 Thread Steve Yin
Hi all,

I found a deadlock issue on Windows in sal module during IA2 development.
And there is a bug opened by Stephan nearly 4 years ago.
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=107562

After my investigation, it seems there is no need to call WaitForSingleObject
at all events. If you have any concerns about it, please let me know. If
there is no problem, I will fix it later.


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Re: [Call for review]123515 - Import the sample PPTX(with one slide) to AOO, the shape in slide is applied a default color incorrectly ( should be transparent)

2013-10-24 Thread Steve Yin
Hi Clarence,

After checking the feature in MSO and comparing with your patch, I found
that the fill with background cannot simply map to no fill. Is there a
way to implement a real fill with background feature in AOO? Thanks.


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 Hi~
 I submitted a path for 123515
 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123515.
 Root cause analysis and solution description please see my comment in above
 URL
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Re: Re[2]: [CWiki] new default access rights active

2013-10-18 Thread Steve Yin
Hi Andrea,

I was hoping that if you could count me in. Thanks.

Full name: Steve Yin


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[Call For QA Volunteers][Accessibility] AOO IAccessible2 testing work

2013-10-14 Thread Steve Yin
Hi all,

The AOO IAccessible2 migration dev work will be done in a few days. We need
QA volunteers to join the testing work and ensure the migration quality.

The source can be get from here:
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/branches/ia2
The Windows build can be get from here:
http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/#w7ia2

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Re: Re : [Call For QA Volunteers][Accessibility] AOO IAccessible2 testing work

2013-10-14 Thread Steve Yin
Hi Jean-Philippe,

Thank you for joining us! There are specific checklists for the
accessibility. Their rules will be integrated into specific QA tasks which
will be assigned to QA volunteers.


On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 4:44 PM, mengualjean...@free.fr wrote:

 Hi,

 accelibreinfo (organization) and myself are interested in testing this
 evolution. Are there some precise criteria for QA? Some reference point?
 Anyway I will do tests and do feedbacks but do not hesitate to tell me if
 the feedback should have a particular form and method so that I forget
 nothing.

 I am so available, do not hesitate to tell me if you need particular tests
 and feedbacks.

 Sincerely,

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Re: [Accessibility] Calc and Impress got complete ia2 support -- (aoo-w7ia2) Buildbot currently failing

2013-09-29 Thread Steve Yin
The compile errors of the branch ia2 were fixed. And the branch was
synchronized with the latest trunk.


On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 11:17 PM, Steve Yin steve.yin@gmail.com wrote:

 An error occurred in the editeng module. I will check it soon.


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 On 9/27/2013 6:44 AM, V Stuart Foote wrote:

 Steve,

 Great news!  Once we have a useable build...

 I just checked and the current r1526782 based ia2 branch is failing
 snapshot
 Buildbot for svn under cygwin

 So the (aoo-w7ia2) Buildbot for the ia2 branch again needs some
 attention.

 just gave it some attention and it is running now...

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Re: [Accessibility] Calc and Impress got complete ia2 support -- looking forware to an (aoo-w7ia2) Buildbot build of r1527279

2013-09-29 Thread Steve Yin
Hi Stuart,

r1527279 is building normally until now. Hope we can get a valid build
soon. : )




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 Steve Yin wrote
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 Wow, excellent that for your r1527279 build of the branch you've again
 synchronized with AOO trunk! With any luck we'll have a clean and current
 ia2 build to start IAccessibile2 QA with.

 So, we'll never get a buildbot run of r1526782, where the last nights
 attempt for 29 September again failed.

 Also, for the genearl QA and Devlopment community--is it too soon to start
 spinning Linux and OS X buildbot builds of the ia2 branch to start
 assessing
 impact implementing IAccessible2 framework may have on the other UAA
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Re: [Accessibility] Calc and Impress got complete ia2 support -- (aoo-w7ia2) Buildbot currently failing

2013-09-28 Thread Steve Yin
An error occurred in the editeng module. I will check it soon.


On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 1:34 AM, Andrew Rist andrew.r...@oracle.com wrote:


 On 9/27/2013 6:44 AM, V Stuart Foote wrote:

 Steve,

 Great news!  Once we have a useable build...

 I just checked and the current r1526782 based ia2 branch is failing
 snapshot
 Buildbot for svn under cygwin

 So the (aoo-w7ia2) Buildbot for the ia2 branch again needs some attention.

 just gave it some attention and it is running now...

 A.


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[Accessibility] Calc and Impress got complete ia2 support.

2013-09-27 Thread Steve Yin
Hi all,

The branch ia2 was updated to rev 1519412. From this rev, the calc and
Impress got complete ia2 support. Please try it and give feedback here.
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Re: IA2 Branch r1519381 IAccessible2 testing - failed Buildbot

2013-09-12 Thread Steve Yin
Thank you all!


On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 4:35 PM, Herbert Duerr h...@apache.org wrote:

 On 12.09.2013 05:21, V Stuart Foote wrote:

 Look to again have a clean and installable build of the IA2 branch --
 r1519381 (wef 2013-09-02)-- to start working against.


 The latest builds #232 (forced by Andrew) and #233 (regular nightly build)
 were both successful [1] and built rev 1519381.

 [1] 
 http://ci.apache.org/projects/**openoffice/http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/

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Re: IA2 Branch r1519381 IAccessible2 testing - failed Buildbot

2013-09-10 Thread Steve Yin
Hi all,

I just synchronized the branch with the trunk. Now I am just working on SC
and SD modules.

Copy this mail to Oliver for more help on the build bot. : )  Oliver,
please help to look at the build bot, thanks.



On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 7:38 AM, Andrew Rist andrew.r...@oracle.com wrote:

 Looking at this now - we should be able to get this bot healthy again.
 A.


 On 9/8/2013 10:13 AM, V Stuart Foote wrote:

 Steve Y. has merged the AOO TRUNK into the IA2 branch SVN as r1519381.

 Anxious to resume QA work on IAccessibile2 implementation.

 Unfortunately, while it looks like the IA2 Buildbot job picked up the
 change, it is failing with this error:

 2 module(s):
 apr
 curl
 need(s) to be rebuilt

 Reason(s):

 ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making
 /cygdrive/e/slave14/aoo-w7ia2/**build/main/curl
 ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making
 /cygdrive/e/slave14/aoo-w7ia2/**build/ext_libraries/apr

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Fwd: AOO numbering problem

2013-09-05 Thread Steve Yin
Hi all,

We found an issue in AOO numbering support when opening OOXML format.
Please help to look at it and welcome to provide more detail information or
technical support. Thanks.


-- Forwarded message --
From: Steve Yin steve.yin@gmail.com
Date: Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 1:51 PM
Subject: Re: AOO numbering problem
To: 張仁瀚 yohey03...@gmail.com


Hi Yohey,

You are Welcome.
I am from China. We are compatriots. : )
I tested your sample file and got the same wrong result. But I found that
the numbering type of 一、二、三 in your sample file is from document number
formats, not from numbering library. There must be some differences between
these two categories in MSO. So I think it should be an incomplete support
issue for the OOXML in the current AOO version. You can file a bug for this
issue here. https://issues.apache.org/ooo/

I sent this mail to the AOO dev mail list for more help. So I kept to reply
you in English. And I think we can contact each other in Chinese from now
on.

My sample file is in the attachment. It can be read by AOO correctly.
Please try it.

On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 1:43 AM, 張仁瀚 yohey03...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello Steve.

 Thanks for your help and sorry for that disturbing you in privacy.
 In fact, I cannot transform the numbers 一二三 successfully, but the others
 like 壹貳參 or 甲乙丙 is okay. About the language settings, I have done it
 completely by modifying every queer way into Chinese (Simplified). I also
 tried AOO English version and  Chinese (Simplified) version. But I got the
 same result just like what I described above.

 The attachment is my test file. It seems nothing wrong but maybe you could
 check whether the numbers also be transformed completely on your PC.  .
 Also maybe I can try your file to see if I will get the same error.

 By the way, I come from Taiwan. It seems that your might know Chinese. If
 you do, maybe we can send mail in Chinese next time. I think I could
 express much well :) .

 Thanks.

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Re: AOO 4.0 Release notes problem in numbering

2013-09-04 Thread Steve Yin
Hi Yohey,

My MSO version is 2010 64bit. The numbering 一、二、三、 was inserted from the
popup menu -numbering library. Then the document was saved into the doc
and docx format.

Please make sure that the language settings of the AOO is correct. My
locale setting and the Asian language setting for document are Chinese
(Simplified).



On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 11:58 AM, 張仁瀚 yohey03...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello Steve,

 well, what's your version of MS office? I use the version 2010. But in fact
 the problem still existed as I tested it. Only the number 一二三 cannot be
 transformed correctly.
 I would like to know how you test it in detail. Just like how you enter or
 insert your numbers.
 Thanks for your help, this really disturbed me a lot.

 Regards,
   Yohey.


 2013/9/3 Steve Yin steve.yin@gmail.com

  Hi Yohey,
 
  I got the same wrong result on MS doc format. But using MS docx is OK.
 That
  is consistent with the AOO 4.0 release notes Support more
 Numberingbullet
  types in docx. Please check it.
 
 
  On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 1:02 PM, 張仁瀚 yohey03...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   Hello everyone,
  
   Recent days I have tried some improvement in the version 4.0 from
 release
   notes [1] . But I got a problem in my implementation.
   The item Support more Numberingbullet types in docx  is under the
  index
   OOXML general. And that is where my question is.
  
   I use the function which is numbering to enter the following words in
  MS
   office:
  
   一. some words
  
   二.  some words
  
   三.  some words
  
  
  
   壹、some words
  
   貳、some words
  
   參、some words
  
  
  
   甲、some words
  
   乙、some words
  
   丙、some words
  
  
   And I saved it as docx. In fact, whatever I used doc or docx, I got the
   same result as I opened the doc or docx file with AOO:
  
   1. some words
  
   2.  some words
  
   3.  some words
  
  
  
   壹、some words
  
   貳、some words
  
   參、some words
  
  
  
   甲、some words
  
   乙、some words
  
   丙、some words
  
   The problem is that Chinese number (一二三 is equal to 123) cannot be
  convert
   completely in AOO.
   Does I got wrong understanding in this improvement or there is
 something
   wrong?
  
   Also, if this improvement is not talking about what I did above, how
 can
  I
   contribute and improve my problem?
  
  
   [1]
  
 
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+Release+Notes
  
  
   Thanks.
  Yohey.
  
 
 
 
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Re: AOO 4.0 Release notes problem in numbering

2013-09-03 Thread Steve Yin
Hi Yohey,

I got the same wrong result on MS doc format. But using MS docx is OK. That
is consistent with the AOO 4.0 release notes Support more Numberingbullet
types in docx. Please check it.


On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 1:02 PM, 張仁瀚 yohey03...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello everyone,

 Recent days I have tried some improvement in the version 4.0 from release
 notes [1] . But I got a problem in my implementation.
 The item Support more Numberingbullet types in docx  is under the index
 OOXML general. And that is where my question is.

 I use the function which is numbering to enter the following words in MS
 office:

 一. some words

 二.  some words

 三.  some words



 壹、some words

 貳、some words

 參、some words



 甲、some words

 乙、some words

 丙、some words


 And I saved it as docx. In fact, whatever I used doc or docx, I got the
 same result as I opened the doc or docx file with AOO:

 1. some words

 2.  some words

 3.  some words



 壹、some words

 貳、some words

 參、some words



 甲、some words

 乙、some words

 丙、some words

 The problem is that Chinese number (一二三 is equal to 123) cannot be convert
 completely in AOO.
 Does I got wrong understanding in this improvement or there is something
 wrong?

 Also, if this improvement is not talking about what I did above, how can I
 contribute and improve my problem?


 [1]
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+Release+Notes


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Re: IA2 branch testing of r1484083 merege with trunk

2013-08-06 Thread Steve Yin
Hi,

Thanks for paying close attention to IA2 work! I will resume the IA2
development at the beginning of September.


On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 10:41 PM, V Stuart Foote vstuart.fo...@utsa.eduwrote:

 Jamie,


 James Teh wrote
  I've since discovered that I can only reproduce this if I run Writer
  directly; i.e. via the icon named OpenOffice Writer in the Start Menu
  or by running swriter.exe. If I run the main OpenOffice application
  (i.e. the icon named OpenOffice in the Start Menu or soffice.exe),
  everything works as it should, even after I select to open a new text
  document. If I open a file associated with OpenOffice, everything works
  correctly also.
 
  Can you reproduce this by running Writer directly?

 Yes I get exactly the same result with this r1484083 based ia2 branch
 build.

 Except for the swriter.exe launcher, all the other components launch
 without
 issue as does the Start Center.  And like you, when Writer is launched from
 the start center, it comes up cleanly.

 On an initial launch from the Writer shortcut, or if running the writer.exe
 directly--the swriter.exe, soffice.exe, and soffice.bin will all run--but
 the writer session hangs.  Have to manually end the writer process from
 task
 manager.  A relaunch of any OpenOffice launcher or the start center panel
 results in a recovery panel that will not complete.

 A reset of user profile (i.e. delete %AppData%\Openffice ) is the clean way
 to return function, as edit of the XML recovery stanzas in the OpenOffice
 registrymodifications.xcu configuration file is not worth the hassle.  The
 user profile will rebuild to default, and just reactivate the Tools --
 Options -- Accessibility -- Support assistive technology tools.

 This issue with the writer.exe launcher is not a problem on the AOO 4.0.0
 release, so should resolve when Steve Y. rebases the ia2 branch.
  Meanwhile,
 best to simply not use the writer.exe launcher in working with the ia2
 branch.

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Re: IA2 branch testing of r1484083 merege with trunk

2013-07-09 Thread Steve Yin
Jamie and Stuart,

Sorry for the slowness of the IA2 development in the current phase. And I
will continue to push the IA2 dev work after the AOO 4.0 release. The
Presentation and Spreadsheet IA2 support were proposed in the next release
(AOO 4.1). Thanks a lot for your understanding. : )


On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 1:53 PM, V Stuart Foote vstuart.fo...@utsa.eduwrote:

 Jamie,

 Steve Yin and folks do not push their ia2 branch dev work out very
 frequently. But I am sure they've been moving it along.  Just wish it were
 more transparent so we could catch any IAccessible2 or A11y standards
 issues
 earlier in the rework.

 Anyhow, the last build we had to work against was against r1484083 from May
 18th--you have not missed anything.

 Simply, nothing newer has been checked back into SVN even if the buildbot
 was running to completion instead of erroring out as its done for quite
 some
 time.

 You can view the check-in status of the ia2 branch SVN at:

 http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/branches/ia2/

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Re: IA2 branch testing of r1484083 merege with trunk

2013-05-20 Thread Steve Yin
Hi Stuart,

Fortunately, a new build of the ia2 branch was ready. : )
The wiki was updated, and more detail actions were added. Thanks.


On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 5:47 AM, V Stuart Foote vstuart.fo...@utsa.eduwrote:

 Sorry, horrible typo, make that

 ... it should have all of the work done on Sidebar through r1483767 so
 _THERE IS NO_ wasted effort there...

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Re: svn commit: r1476721 - /openoffice/branches/ia2/main/editeng/prj/build.lst

2013-04-28 Thread Steve Yin
Hi Ariel,

You are right!

The original intention of introducing these two headers is for exporting
the spelling check status in Symphony. But there is no need to merge these
lines into AOO. I will update the branch ASAP. Thanks!



On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 5:20 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile
arie...@apache.orgwrote:

 Hi

 On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 3:22 AM,  stev...@apache.org wrote:
  Author: steve_y
  Date: Sun Apr 28 06:22:18 2013
  New Revision: 1476721
 
  URL: http://svn.apache.org/r1476721
  Log:
  Fix a build dependency issue in editeng
 
  Modified:
  openoffice/branches/ia2/main/editeng/prj/build.lst
 
  Modified: openoffice/branches/ia2/main/editeng/prj/build.lst
  URL:
 http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/branches/ia2/main/editeng/prj/build.lst?rev=1476721r1=1476720r2=1476721view=diff
 
 ==
  --- openoffice/branches/ia2/main/editeng/prj/build.lst (original)
  +++ openoffice/branches/ia2/main/editeng/prj/build.lst Sun Apr 28
 06:22:18 2013
  @@ -1,3 +1,3 @@
  -ed editeng :   L10N:l10n svtools xmloff linguistic NULL
  +ed editeng :   L10N:l10n svtools sfx2 xmloff linguistic NULL
   ed editeng\prj
 nmake   -   all ed_prj NULL

 adding a dependency on sfx2 to editeng doesn't sound like a good idea.
 Even more when the errors:


 c:/build/ia2/main/editeng/source/accessibility/AccessibleEditableTextPara.cxx(87)
 : fatal error C1083: Cannot open include file: 'sfx2/viewfrm.hxx': No
 such file or directory
 make: ***
 [/cygdrive/c/build/ia2/main/solver/400/wntmsci12/workdir/CxxObject/editeng/source/accessibility/AccessibleEditableTextPara.o]
 Error 2


 c:/build/ia2/main/editeng/source/accessibility/AccessibleEditableTextPara.cxx(88)
 : fatal error C1083: Cannot open include file: 'sfx2/viewsh.hxx': No
 such file or directory
 make: ***
 [/cygdrive/c/build/ia2/main/solver/400/wntmsci12/workdir/CxxObject/editeng/source/accessibility/AccessibleEditableTextPara.o]
 Error 2


 are due to a copypaste of two unused and unneedded headers.

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[Accessibility] Can someone help to check the ia2 branch build?

2013-04-25 Thread Steve Yin
Hi,

I found that the branch build is broken by an error. It points out that the
error is in the file named TaskPanelFactory.cxx. But the file was deleted
and cannot be found on the current svn repository of the branch. Can
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[Accessibility] AOO Writer gets a better IA2 support now

2013-04-24 Thread Steve Yin
Hi all,

The IA2 migration work for AOO is ongoing. We just finished a draft version
which can let Writer get a better IA2 support. Now the branch build is
ready for downloading. http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/#w7ia2

Please try it! And if you found issues or bugs, please send mails to the
aoo dev mail list or file them in AOO bugzilla.
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/

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Re: Blind Accessibility

2013-04-19 Thread Steve Yin
Hi Jean,

As far as I know, this issue is not a known one. The latest AOO still
requires the JBA to work with on the Windows system. I suggest the user to
install the latest Symphony and NVDA until after the integration of the
branch ia2 to replace the Symphony with the AOO.

I hope this will help you.


On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 4:32 AM, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL 
mengualjean...@free.fr wrote:

 Hi,

 We've just had a feedback about the latest snapshot of OOo. It seems that
 the
 user has a problem using with Windows 8 and NVDA beta. Is that a known
 situation?
 The user doesn't has Symphony installed on his computer and not JBA. He
 tried
 running as admin.

 Thanks for your answer.

 Regards,

 JPM

 On mercredi 03 avril 2013 à 11:17:29 (+0800), Steve Yin wrote:
  Hi Jean,
 
  Thanks for your work!
 
  The current build of the branch ia2 is a developing version and ready
 for
  UI testing only. So all the issues you found will be fixed gradually in
 the
  future versions. Now we are working on the document level and will update
  the branch periodically. And we plan to finished the main work of the
  IAccessible2 migration before November. Then the branch will be
 integrated
  into the trunk. I think the localization work is in the scope of the
 trunk.
  So you will not have to localize it by yourself. Thanks.
 
 
 
  On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 2:21 AM, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL 
  mengualjean...@free.fr wrote:
 
   Hf,
  
   I did my 1st test today. Indeed it works fine. 2 categories of
 questions:
   is it possible to localize such release or not yet? Besides, the fact
 that
   the
   characters formatting isn't recognized, the navigating in the tables is
   not yet
   perfect: are they issues related to assistive technologies? Or could
 OOo
   make
   progress such features?
  
   Thanks anyway for this great work. If I can localize, I think I'm
 going to
   use
   OOo on Windows more often. So far I only use it on Linux.
  
   Regards,
  
   JPM
  
   On samedi 30 mars 2013 à 22:05:18 (+0800), Steve Yin wrote:
Jean,
   
Welcome! It is very nice that you can join testing work and
provide feedback. There is a branch named ia2 which is for AOO
   IAccessible2
development use. The development work is still in progress. You can
download the branch install package (binary for Windows) from
http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/#w7ia2 and see what we have
   done
from
   
  
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+IAccessible2.
   
Thanks for your support!
   
   
On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL 
mengualjean...@free.fr wrote:
   
 Hi,

 I'm very happy to know that people like Steve and Jennifer plan to
 deal
 with
 accessibility in OOo. I had submitted the fssue 1,5 year ago; it's
 very
 cool if
 things are in progress. Thanks!

 For me, I especially can help you by testing and doing feedbacks.
 Is
   there
 some
 URL to download the release in test? This URL will involve and be
   updated
 at
 this link? Is that a binary?

 Well. I'd be happy to support this work. Thanks again Steve to
 code for
 this
 issue!

 Best regards,

 JPM

 On samedi 23 mars 2013 à 22:17:04 (+0800), Steve Yin wrote:
  Thanks Andrea! You are a considerate person : )
 
 
  On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 9:55 PM, Andrea Pescetti 
   pesce...@apache.org
 wrote:
 
   Forwarding the answer below to Jennifer, who may have missed
 the
   answer
   since it seems she's not subscribed to the list. Andrea
  
  
   On 22/03/2013 Steve Yin wrote:
  
   Hi Jennifer,
  
   Welcome!
  
   My name is Steve Yin. I am working on the IAccessible2
 migration
   for
 AOO
   Windows version. You can read our plan and get some useful
   information
   here:
   https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/**
   AOO+4.0+IAccessible2

  
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+IAccessible2
   .
   Thanks.
  
  
   On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 8:36 AM, Doitblind Jennifer McKinley
   j...@doitblind.com  wrote:
  
Hi,
  
   My name is Jennifer McKinley.  I am the co-founder of Do It
   Blind.
  My
   business partner, John Martyn, and I would like to work with
 Open
 Office
   to
   make it blind accessible.  We have already developed scripts
 for
 other
   very
   popular programs like iTunes, Rhapsody, and Spotify.  Please
   visit
   doitblind.com for more information on them.  Who can we
 speak
   with
 in
   regards to making Open Office blind accessible?
   Please email me or call me.  We appreciate your time.
  
   Thank you!
  
   Jennifer McKinley
   Co-Founder, Do It Blind, LLC
   doitblind.com
   505-382-2641

Re: Sidebar merged into trunk

2013-04-11 Thread Steve Yin
Hi Andre,

Thanks for your quick response. I definitely would like to provide
accessibility help on the sidebar. : )


On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 3:11 PM, Andre Fischer awf@gmail.com wrote:

 On 11.04.2013 08:50, Steve Yin wrote:

 Hi Andre,

 Should we add a new thing - accessibility? I suggest to evaluate or test
 the sidebar's accessibility and do bug fix on the branch ia2 after
 finishing the IA2 migration.


 Hi Steve,

 We definitely have to take care of accessibility for the sidebar.  I
 started to take care of two aspects, keyboard focus traveling and high
 contrast mode but both need more work.  Regarding the support of the
 accessibility API I would gladly accept any help that you can offer.  Most
 panels should have accessibility support. but I don't know if that has been
 properly migrated.  The visible controls of the actual sidebar (tab bar,
 buttons, decks, panel containers) do not yet support the UAA but adding
 that should not be too hard.  If have worked on accessibility support for
 Impress before and have some experience.  But again, any help is
 appreciated.

 -Andre



 On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 5:48 PM, Andre Fischer awf@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi community,

 the first phase of the sidebar development is complete.  The sidebar
 is now feature complete, ie all panels that are planned for the 4.0
 release are now available.

 More importantly: we have just merged the sidebar branch into trunk.
 That means that from now on, every build of trunk will contain the
 sidebar.  It is active by default and ready for use.

 The next phase will concentrate on two things:

 - Improving usability and appearance.

 - Finding and fixing bugs.


 Everyone of you can help with both points: please try out the sidebar
 and tell us about everything that does not work or that you don't
 like.  If you find an error then please look at [1] to see if
 something like this is already known.  If not, please write a new
 issue for it.
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Re: Blind Accessibility

2013-04-03 Thread Steve Yin
Hi Reina,

We tested the build of the branch ia2 only on Windows 7, Vista and XP. So
I cannot ensure that the build can run successfully on Windows 8. And the
current build is still only ready for IA2 UI testing. Please do not run
testing on the object level or the other document content. Thanks.



On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 3:15 AM, Waldorf PC waldor...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi:

 It is a relief that I am not the only one who has concerns about
 accessibility. Jennifer, thank you for jumping on board with this, as
 I have been swamped with my own work and all.

 I tried downloading Symphony, and it was a disaster. I never got the
 program to work, and it ended up causing registry problems. I could
 not even delete the program in the regular fashion by going through
 the control panel. I had to manually delete it and take it out of the
 registry. I have decided not to revisit Symphony and wait for the new
 release of Open Office. Since this test version is now available, I
 wish to test it out on my own machine. I am running Windows 8. Please
 let me know if it will work on this machine or if I will have to use
 another machine with an older operating system. I will run this
 release through a rigorous testing protocol and will be able to let
 you know if it is an assistive technology issue or a program issue,
 and I will provide you with a fix to bridge the gap.

 I am so glad we can all work together on this.

 Warm regards,
 Reina Grosvalet



 On 4/2/13, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL mengualjean...@free.fr wrote:
  Hf,
 
  I did my 1st test today. Indeed it works fine. 2 categories of questions:
  is it possible to localize such release or not yet? Besides, the fact
 that
  the
  characters formatting isn't recognized, the navigating in the tables is
 not
  yet
  perfect: are they issues related to assistive technologies? Or could OOo
  make
  progress such features?
 
  Thanks anyway for this great work. If I can localize, I think I'm going
 to
  use
  OOo on Windows more often. So far I only use it on Linux.
 
  Regards,
 
  JPM
 
  On samedi 30 mars 2013 à 22:05:18 (+0800), Steve Yin wrote:
  Jean,
 
  Welcome! It is very nice that you can join testing work and
  provide feedback. There is a branch named ia2 which is for AOO
  IAccessible2
  development use. The development work is still in progress. You can
  download the branch install package (binary for Windows) from
  http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/#w7ia2 and see what we have
 done
  from
 
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+IAccessible2.
 
  Thanks for your support!
 
 
  On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL 
  mengualjean...@free.fr wrote:
 
   Hi,
  
   I'm very happy to know that people like Steve and Jennifer plan to
 deal
   with
   accessibility in OOo. I had submitted the fssue 1,5 year ago; it's
 very
   cool if
   things are in progress. Thanks!
  
   For me, I especially can help you by testing and doing feedbacks. Is
   there
   some
   URL to download the release in test? This URL will involve and be
   updated
   at
   this link? Is that a binary?
  
   Well. I'd be happy to support this work. Thanks again Steve to code
 for
   this
   issue!
  
   Best regards,
  
   JPM
  
   On samedi 23 mars 2013 à 22:17:04 (+0800), Steve Yin wrote:
Thanks Andrea! You are a considerate person : )
   
   
On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 9:55 PM, Andrea Pescetti 
 pesce...@apache.org
   wrote:
   
 Forwarding the answer below to Jennifer, who may have missed the
 answer
 since it seems she's not subscribed to the list. Andrea


 On 22/03/2013 Steve Yin wrote:

 Hi Jennifer,

 Welcome!

 My name is Steve Yin. I am working on the IAccessible2 migration
 for
   AOO
 Windows version. You can read our plan and get some useful
 information
 here:
 https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/**
 AOO+4.0+IAccessible2
  
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+IAccessible2
 .
 Thanks.


 On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 8:36 AM, Doitblind Jennifer McKinley
 j...@doitblind.com  wrote:

  Hi,

 My name is Jennifer McKinley.  I am the co-founder of Do It
 Blind.
My
 business partner, John Martyn, and I would like to work with
 Open
   Office
 to
 make it blind accessible.  We have already developed scripts for
   other
 very
 popular programs like iTunes, Rhapsody, and Spotify.  Please
 visit
 doitblind.com for more information on them.  Who can we speak
 with
   in
 regards to making Open Office blind accessible?
 Please email me or call me.  We appreciate your time.

 Thank you!

 Jennifer McKinley
 Co-Founder, Do It Blind, LLC
 doitblind.com
 505-382-2641







  
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Re: Blind Accessibility

2013-03-30 Thread Steve Yin
Jean,

Welcome! It is very nice that you can join testing work and
provide feedback. There is a branch named ia2 which is for AOO IAccessible2
development use. The development work is still in progress. You can
download the branch install package (binary for Windows) from
http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/#w7ia2 and see what we have done
from
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+IAccessible2.

Thanks for your support!


On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL 
mengualjean...@free.fr wrote:

 Hi,

 I'm very happy to know that people like Steve and Jennifer plan to deal
 with
 accessibility in OOo. I had submitted the fssue 1,5 year ago; it's very
 cool if
 things are in progress. Thanks!

 For me, I especially can help you by testing and doing feedbacks. Is there
 some
 URL to download the release in test? This URL will involve and be updated
 at
 this link? Is that a binary?

 Well. I'd be happy to support this work. Thanks again Steve to code for
 this
 issue!

 Best regards,

 JPM

 On samedi 23 mars 2013 à 22:17:04 (+0800), Steve Yin wrote:
  Thanks Andrea! You are a considerate person : )
 
 
  On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 9:55 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org
 wrote:
 
   Forwarding the answer below to Jennifer, who may have missed the answer
   since it seems she's not subscribed to the list. Andrea
  
  
   On 22/03/2013 Steve Yin wrote:
  
   Hi Jennifer,
  
   Welcome!
  
   My name is Steve Yin. I am working on the IAccessible2 migration for
 AOO
   Windows version. You can read our plan and get some useful information
   here:
   https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/**
   AOO+4.0+IAccessible2
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+IAccessible2
   .
   Thanks.
  
  
   On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 8:36 AM, Doitblind Jennifer McKinley
   j...@doitblind.com  wrote:
  
Hi,
  
   My name is Jennifer McKinley.  I am the co-founder of Do It Blind.
  My
   business partner, John Martyn, and I would like to work with Open
 Office
   to
   make it blind accessible.  We have already developed scripts for
 other
   very
   popular programs like iTunes, Rhapsody, and Spotify.  Please visit
   doitblind.com for more information on them.  Who can we speak with
 in
   regards to making Open Office blind accessible?
   Please email me or call me.  We appreciate your time.
  
   Thank you!
  
   Jennifer McKinley
   Co-Founder, Do It Blind, LLC
   doitblind.com
   505-382-2641
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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Re: Problems with Accessibility in Open Office

2013-03-26 Thread Steve Yin
Hi Jennifer,

I am working on the IAccessible2 migration for AOO. If possible, you can
download and evaluate the Windows version Symphony's accessibility firstly.
The download link:
http://www-03.ibm.com/software/lotus/symphony/home.nsf/home. Thanks.


On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 2:05 AM, Doitblind Jennifer McKinley 
j...@doitblind.com wrote:

   Good Morning,

 Thank you for including us on this list.

 John and I started Do It Blind because of the lack of accessibility for
 blind and visually impaired people for the majority of programs.  Although
 many programs say they are accessible, we have found they are minimally
 accessible and do not make things very easy or friendly for blind users.
 John is 100% blind and I am fully sighted.  We are a 2 person team taking
 on the world of accessibility.
 When we launched doitblind.com, we immediately started receiving requests
 to script many different programs.  We script programs that are most
 commonly requested and able to be scripted for blind accessibility.  When
 you visit doitblind.com, you will see where you are able to download the
 different scripts.  We currently charge a one time minimal fee for the
 different programs.
 We have had requests to make Open Office blind accessible and decided to
 look into it.  What we would like to do is write the scripts to make Open
 Office accessible.  We would then put the scripts on our website and allow
 people to purchase the scripts which would make Open Office more accessible
 than it currently is.
 As far as programing languages are concerned, we do JAWS scripting.  As
 far as 508 compliance goes, we can aid programmers in making screen readers
 natively supported.  If there is currently someone working on
 accessibility, we would love to be in touch with them.  Thank you!  We hope
 everyone has a wonderful afternoon!

 Jennifer McKinley
 Co-Founder, Do It Blind, LLC
 j...@doitblind.com
 doitblind.com
 505-382-2641

  *From:* Steve Yin steve.yin@gmail.com
 *Sent:* Sunday, March 24, 2013 11:30 PM
 *To:* dev@openoffice.apache.org ; orc...@apache.org
 *Cc:* Waldorf PC waldor...@gmail.com ; j...@doitblind.com
 *Subject:* Re: Problems with Accessibility in Open Office

  Hi Reina,

 Did you install the Symphony successfully? If not, please try to remove
 the Symphony work space firstly. The path of it is like this: C:\Documents
 and Settings\username\IBM\Lotus\Symphony. Thanks.


 On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 1:00 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.orgwrote:

 Hello Reina,

 I trust you are well.

 It would be useful to have the rplauncher.og that is left when your
 install of Symphony fails to open.

 Another person has expressed interest in accessibility for blind users.
 I have included Jennifer on this note. I don't know how much the work of
 Do It Blind is tied to 508 Compliance.

 Regards,

 - Dennis

  My name is Jennifer McKinley.  I am the co-founder of Do It Blind.  My
  business partner, John Martyn, and I would like to work with Open
 Office to
  make it blind accessible.  We have already developed scripts for other
 very
  popular programs like iTunes, Rhapsody, and Spotify.  Please visit
  doitblind.com for more information on them.  Who can we speak with in
  regards to making Open Office blind accessible?
  Please email me or call me.  We appreciate your time.
 
  Thank you!
 
  Jennifer McKinley
  Co-Founder, Do It Blind, LLC
  doitblind.com
  505-382-2641

 -Original Message-
 From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org]
 Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2013 13:09
 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
 Cc: 'Waldorf PC'
 Subject: RE: Problems with Accessibility in Open Office

 A. I was able to install Symphony 3.0.1 and the Fix Pack 2.  I also
 have obtained the rcplauncher.log, which is rather interesting.

 B. When you are able to get Symphony operating, there is a feature
 that will be interesting to understand the accessibility of.  There is
 a sidebar on the right of the Symphony window that includes a variety
 of dialogs and a way to select among them.  This is also a feature that
 is being worked up for Apache OpenOffice 4.x.

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Re: Problems with Accessibility in Open Office

2013-03-24 Thread Steve Yin
Hi Reina,

Did you install the Symphony successfully? If not, please try to remove the
Symphony work space firstly. The path of it is like this: C:\Documents and
Settings\username\IBM\Lotus\Symphony. Thanks.


On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 1:00 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.orgwrote:

 Hello Reina,

 I trust you are well.

 It would be useful to have the rplauncher.og that is left when your
 install of Symphony fails to open.

 Another person has expressed interest in accessibility for blind users.  I
 have included Jennifer on this note. I don't know how much the work of Do
 It Blind is tied to 508 Compliance.

 Regards,

  - Dennis

  My name is Jennifer McKinley.  I am the co-founder of Do It Blind.  My
  business partner, John Martyn, and I would like to work with Open Office
 to
  make it blind accessible.  We have already developed scripts for other
 very
  popular programs like iTunes, Rhapsody, and Spotify.  Please visit
  doitblind.com for more information on them.  Who can we speak with in
  regards to making Open Office blind accessible?
  Please email me or call me.  We appreciate your time.
 
  Thank you!
 
  Jennifer McKinley
  Co-Founder, Do It Blind, LLC
  doitblind.com
  505-382-2641

 -Original Message-
 From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org]
 Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2013 13:09
 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
 Cc: 'Waldorf PC'
 Subject: RE: Problems with Accessibility in Open Office

 A. I was able to install Symphony 3.0.1 and the Fix Pack 2.  I also
 have obtained the rcplauncher.log, which is rather interesting.

 B. When you are able to get Symphony operating, there is a feature
 that will be interesting to understand the accessibility of.  There is
 a sidebar on the right of the Symphony window that includes a variety
 of dialogs and a way to select among them.  This is also a feature that
 is being worked up for Apache OpenOffice 4.x.

 [ ... ]


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Re: Blind Accessibility

2013-03-23 Thread Steve Yin
Thanks Andrea! You are a considerate person : )


On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 9:55 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.orgwrote:

 Forwarding the answer below to Jennifer, who may have missed the answer
 since it seems she's not subscribed to the list. Andrea


 On 22/03/2013 Steve Yin wrote:

 Hi Jennifer,

 Welcome!

 My name is Steve Yin. I am working on the IAccessible2 migration for AOO
 Windows version. You can read our plan and get some useful information
 here:
 https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/**
 AOO+4.0+IAccessible2https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+IAccessible2
 .
 Thanks.


 On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 8:36 AM, Doitblind Jennifer McKinley
 j...@doitblind.com  wrote:

  Hi,

 My name is Jennifer McKinley.  I am the co-founder of Do It Blind.  My
 business partner, John Martyn, and I would like to work with Open Office
 to
 make it blind accessible.  We have already developed scripts for other
 very
 popular programs like iTunes, Rhapsody, and Spotify.  Please visit
 doitblind.com for more information on them.  Who can we speak with in
 regards to making Open Office blind accessible?
 Please email me or call me.  We appreciate your time.

 Thank you!

 Jennifer McKinley
 Co-Founder, Do It Blind, LLC
 doitblind.com
 505-382-2641






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Re: Blind Accessibility

2013-03-21 Thread Steve Yin
Hi Jennifer,

Welcome!

My name is Steve Yin. I am working on the IAccessible2 migration for AOO
Windows version. You can read our plan and get some useful information
here:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+IAccessible2.
Thanks.


On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 8:36 AM, Doitblind Jennifer McKinley 
j...@doitblind.com wrote:

 Hi,

 My name is Jennifer McKinley.  I am the co-founder of Do It Blind.  My
 business partner, John Martyn, and I would like to work with Open Office to
 make it blind accessible.  We have already developed scripts for other very
 popular programs like iTunes, Rhapsody, and Spotify.  Please visit
 doitblind.com for more information on them.  Who can we speak with in
 regards to making Open Office blind accessible?
 Please email me or call me.  We appreciate your time.

 Thank you!

 Jennifer McKinley
 Co-Founder, Do It Blind, LLC
 doitblind.com
 505-382-2641




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Re: [Accessibility] IA2 migration status

2013-03-18 Thread Steve Yin
Hi Simon,

Thanks for you response.

We planed to deliver the first ia2 ready for QA version at the end of
June. As what you mentioned, Writer will be the first part to support IA2.



On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Shenfeng Liu liush...@gmail.com wrote:

 Steve,
   Thanks for your update for good progress!
   When do you expect that we can start testing on the branch?
   I understand that it will take long time to finish the migration and
 enablement,  but I think maybe we can do early testing for the implemented
 parts. e.g. for Writer, when you finished it.

 - Shenfeng (Simon)


 2013/3/6 Steve Yin steve.yin@gmail.com

  Hi all,
 
  THe AOO IAccessible2 migration work is ongoing. Now we have finished
 about
  15% in the phase 3.
 
  The IA2 migration work for Writer will have the highest priority. Once we
  finished the UT, we will update the branch.
 
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Re: [Call For QA Volunteers] AOO UI IAccessible2 testing work

2013-02-15 Thread Steve Yin
Hi Stuart,

I am back from the Spring Festival. Sorry for the late reply.

On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 2:05 AM, V Stuart Foote vstuart.fo...@utsa.eduwrote:

 Steve,

 Nothing substantive yet in working through the Windows build of the ia2
 branch. Should we build against Linux and OSX and be testing for impact on
 ATK/AT-SPI and NSAccessibility User Interface?


Agreed. Testing the branch on Linux and OSX is necessary.



 And, with QA and testing of the ia2 branch proceeding what mechanism
 should folks use for reporting and tracking issues on the ia2 branch
 builds?


 Should we stay with PM and ML exchanges, or start to use Bugzilla at
 issues.apache.org/ooo?  I believe that starting with BZ tracking now
  provides continuity upon merge of branch back into AOO4.00.


Bugzilla may be the best choice.


 And, if into Bugzilla, would suggest a note in your AOO 4.0 IAccessible2
 release planning wiki that  QA participants and casual users report in
 Bugzilla categorized for consistency as against:

Product: UI
Component: AccessBridge
Version: AOO4.00-dev


Good suggestion. Thanks.



 Stuart

 =-=-=

 Sidebar--the legacy IAccessible2 enhancement bug could probably be revised
 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=107914

 And here is a generic BZ search for accessibility issues

 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?query_format=advancedresolution=---short_desc=msaa%20accessible%20iaccessible%20iaccessible2%20accessibilityshort_desc_type=anywordssubstrorder=component%2Cpriority%2Cbug_severityquery_based_on=




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Re: [Call For QA Volunteers] AOO UI IAccessible2 testing work

2013-02-05 Thread Steve Yin
Hi Ariel,

Well done! Thanks!


On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 3:48 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.orgwrote:

 Hi Steve,

 On Tue, Feb 05, 2013 at 03:36:05PM +0800, Steve Yin wrote:
  Hi Ariel,
 
  Can you try to run it as administrator? I am afraid that the user
 privilege
  cannot modify the registry on Windows 7. The AOO branch build need to
  register the UaccCom.dll as a COM component.
 
  I tried NVDA under Win 7 x64 and Win XP as administrator. It works fine.

 You were right, now it works, even toolbar icons are read now, nice work!


 Regards
 --
 Ariel Constenla-Haile
 La Plata, Argentina




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Re: [Call For QA Volunteers] AOO UI IAccessible2 testing work

2013-02-04 Thread Steve Yin
Hi Stuart,

Welcome!

The configuration of the ia2 branch is same with the trunk.
http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide/Building_on_Windows

But we need Visual C++ 2008 Professional with parameters--enable-activex
and--enable-atl to compile the branch. And I plan to upload the
developer-snapshots to a space for QA.

Inspect and AccEvent can only show the MSAA stuff. AccProbe can fully show
MSAA and IA2 information.

Yes, NVDA is a recommend screen reader for IA2 testing. If Jamie can
provide utilities to community, it couldn't be better.

Thanks!


On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 7:36 AM, V Stuart Foote vstuart.fo...@utsa.eduwrote:

 Steve,

 Great work!  Hope to be able to get to work on QA of the ia2 branch soon.

 From: Steve Yin [mailto:steve.yin@gmail.com]
 Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 7:10 PM
 snip
 Yes, the branch ia2 is ready for QA now. The earlier the
 power users involve, the faster project progress we can expect.

 Since we are a while out from a nightly build incorporating the ia2
 branch, we'll
 need to roll our own. Any particular configuration controls you'd
 recommend to
 have in place for QA for builds of the ia2 branch for Windows OS?
 Something
 similar to  the Software requirements you'd posted for doing a Symphony
 build
 (
 http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/How_to_build_Symphony%27s_source_code#Building_Symphony_on_Windows
 )

 Any chance of having Oliver-orw at apache.org--or one of your IBM Beijing
 team,
 cobble together  and post a Windows build of the ia2 branch to standardize
 any QA work.

 Finally, noted your exchange with Simon Liu

 From: Steve Yin [mailto:steve.yin@gmail.com]
 Sent: Friday Jan 25, 2013 6:03 AM
 snip
 For the AOO IAccessible2 testing tools, I think a screen reader which can
 support IA2 is required. We recommand JAWS for IA2 testing. And for the
 IA2
 attributes or events information testing, AccProbe is preferred.

 Of course those only cover Linux testing. For IAccessibility2 testing of
 ia2 in
 Windows, the QA and testers would probably need Inspect.exe and
 AccEvent.exe from  the Microsoft Windows SDK as those are the best tools
 for monitoring MSAA/IAccessible and UI Automation.

 Also,  in addition to JAWS, a current build of NVDA would be helpful. And
 I'm sure
 Jamie Teh at NV Access has some solid Python utilities for use with
 exposing
 events in Windows

 Stuart Foote




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Re: [Call For QA Volunteers] AOO UI IAccessible2 testing work

2013-02-04 Thread Steve Yin
Hi Ariel,

Thanks for your build!
The bug you mentioned is about a JAB issue of JAVA 1.7. The IAccessible2
bridge does not relate to JAVA. You can simple enable ia2 on the branch AOO
build by running a AT tool such JAWS, NVDA or AccProbe. AOO
will automatically enable the IA2 bridge.


On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 12:36 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile
arie...@apache.orgwrote:

 On Mon, Feb 04, 2013 at 11:36:39PM +, V Stuart Foote wrote:
  Steve,
 
  Great work!  Hope to be able to get to work on QA of the ia2 branch soon.
 
  From: Steve Yin [mailto:steve.yin@gmail.com]
  Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 7:10 PM
  snip
  Yes, the branch ia2 is ready for QA now. The earlier the
  power users involve, the faster project progress we can expect.
 
  Since we are a while out from a nightly build incorporating the ia2
 branch, we'll
  need to roll our own. Any particular configuration controls you'd
 recommend to
  have in place for QA for builds of the ia2 branch for Windows OS?
 Something
  similar to  the Software requirements you'd posted for doing a Symphony
 build
  (
 http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/How_to_build_Symphony%27s_source_code#Building_Symphony_on_Windows
 )
 
  Any chance of having Oliver-orw at apache.org--or one of your IBM
 Beijing team,
  cobble together  and post a Windows build of the ia2 branch to
 standardize any QA work.


 I uploaded my build to http://people.apache.org/~arielch/packages/ia2/

 I've played with https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121510
 and still find it broken, but as I don't know much about accessibility,
 I leave it to you to find out :)


 Regards
 --
 Ariel Constenla-Haile
 La Plata, Argentina




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Re: [Call For QA Volunteers] AOO UI IAccessible2 testing work

2013-02-04 Thread Steve Yin
Hi Ariel,

Checking support assistive technology tools is unnecessary for the branch
build. Did you run the AOO build with administrator privilege?


On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.orgwrote:

 Hi Steve,

 On Tue, Feb 05, 2013 at 01:35:04PM +0800, Steve Yin wrote:
  Hi Ariel,
 
  Thanks for your build!
  The bug you mentioned is about a JAB issue of JAVA 1.7. The IAccessible2
  bridge does not relate to JAVA. You can simple enable ia2 on the branch
 AOO
  build by running a AT tool such JAWS, NVDA or AccProbe. AOO
  will automatically enable the IA2 bridge.

 I tried it with NVDA version 2012.3.1 (looks like a date, I took it from
 their About dialog).

 What I wanted to mean is that the behaviour described in the bug is
 reproducible with ia2:

 - create a new Writer document
 - select Edit - Find  Replace...

 NVDA reads the controls in the Find  Replace... dialog when
 I position the mouse over the control, but if a travel the dialog using
 the TAB key, NVDA does not read any control. On the other Windows
 applications, when a control gets the focus traveling with the TAB key,
 NVDA reads it.

 I attached the VS2008 debugger to the soffice.bin process,
 winaccesibility.dll and UAccCOM.dll are not listed among the loaded
 modules. IAccesible2Proxy.dll, minHook.dll and nvdaHelperRemote.dll,
 from NVDA, are loaded.

 May I missed something in the NVDA set up, or is there something we have
 to configure on AOO at runtime? I already checked Tools - Options...
 - AOO - Accessibility - Miscellaneous options - Support assistive
 technology tools (program restart required)


 Regards
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 Ariel Constenla-Haile
 La Plata, Argentina




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Re: [Call For QA Volunteers] AOO UI IAccessible2 testing work

2013-02-04 Thread Steve Yin
Hi Ariel,

Can you try to run it as administrator? I am afraid that the user privilege
cannot modify the registry on Windows 7. The AOO branch build need to
register the UaccCom.dll as a COM component.

I tried NVDA under Win 7 x64 and Win XP as administrator. It works fine.

Thanks.


On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.orgwrote:

 Hi Steve,

 On Tue, Feb 05, 2013 at 02:54:19PM +0800, Steve Yin wrote:
  Hi Ariel,
 
  Checking support assistive technology tools is unnecessary for the branch
  build. Did you run the AOO build with administrator privilege?

 No, I launched it from the start menu on Windows 7, as normal user.


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Re: [Call For QA Volunteers] AOO UI IAccessible2 testing work

2013-02-03 Thread Steve Yin
Hi Steve,

Yes, the branch ia2 is ready for QA now. The earlier the power users
involve, the faster project progress we can expect.

Good idea! I hope NVDA dev team can join AOO IA2 dev work now. NVDA and
Symphony had ever corroborated for a while in 2010, they are very
professional and enthusiastic.

Your initial testing is welcome. It will be helpful for IA2 QA work.

I am sorry that I did not attend the event. I hope we can meet in the near
future. : )

Thanks.


On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 11:34 PM, Steve Lee st...@opendirective.com wrote:

 Hi Steve, thanks Don

 It's good to hear you have progressed so far already.

 Is the work in a state ready for testing by some screen reader users
 who are very technical?

 If you have binaries or they are easy enough create I suggest we bring
 in the NVDA dev team in now or very soon. They have been wanting IA2
 in [A]OO for a long time, but in it's absence have been recommending
 Symphony to their users; the Java Access Bridge is a real pain for
 their users to install. They will obviously give a very thorough
 testing and should engage well at a deep technical level. One of the
 NVDA contributors has provided the Arabic support so we'd get broad
 extra testing of IA2 with i18n and RTL languages. If you feel you are
 ready then let me know and I will make the introductions.

 http://www.nvda-project.org/

 Otherwise how can I help? I have restricted cycles for the next week
 or 2. I could do some initial 'gorilla testing'.

 PS Steve did we meet in Boston at a Mozilla/GNOME a11y event?

 Steve Lee
 Programme Leader (Open Accessibility)
 OpenDirective http://opendirective.com


 On 1 February 2013 14:29, Steve Yin steve.yin@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi Steve and Don,
 
  Thanks Don. Welcome Steve Lee! Now we can do more on AOO accessibility
  testing, not only IA2. : )
 
 
 
  On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 8:46 PM, Donald Harbison dpharbi...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  Hi Steve Yin,
 
  Steve Lee from OpenDirectives is keen to help get the testing started.
  He's
  new to AOO, but an old hand with A11Y work. He's very well connected to
  the
  accessibility community and will be able to help us connect with experts
  for the testing process.
 
  Take it away Steve (Lee),
 
  /don
 
  On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 1:46 AM, Steve Yin steve.yin@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
   Hi Diego Valle,
  
   Welcome to join AOO IAccessible2 QA work.
   We will prepare QA cases and assign some of them to you. And I hope we
   can
   work together at the beginning.
  
  
   On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 6:44 AM, Diego Valle Rosado 
   diegogvalleros...@gmail.com wrote:
  
Hello
   
My name is diego valle.At the moment I study the career IT in
 Quintana
   Roo,
Mexico.
   
I'm interested in AOO IAccessible2 testing work and I'd like to be a
QA
volunteer. Would be a great way to learn how to get started
programming
OpenOffice and to help bring the benefits of OpenOffice to my
 country
and
the region where I live.
   
Regards
   
Diego Valle
   
   
2013/1/25 Steve Yin steve.yin@gmail.com
   
 Hi all,

 The UI part of the AOO IAccessible2 migration dev work will be
 done
 in
   a
 few days. We need QA volunteers to join the testing work and
 ensure
 the
 migration quality. This work will be started on the branch ia2.
 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/branches/ia2

 If you are interested in AOO IAccessible2 testing work, please
 reply
   this
 mail. Thanks.

 --
 Best Regards,

 Steve Yin

   
  
  
  
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Re: [Accessibility] IA2 bridge and UI related changes were submitted on the branch ia2

2013-02-03 Thread Steve Yin
Hi Pedro,

Yes, the sidebar should support not only IA2 but the whole ACC feature. But
I think it is not a dependency, sidebar and its ACC support work are
parallel.

Thanks!


On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 2:34 AM, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote:

 Just curious ...


 - Messaggio originale -
  Da: Andre Fischer

 
  Am 01.02.2013 16:20, schrieb Shenfeng Liu:
   Steve,
  Great work!
 
  Yes, great work.  I was not expecting this phase to be completed so soon.
 
  -Andre
 


 I guess in Symphony, and now in AOO, the sidebar is somehow
 related (a dependency perhaps) to the IA2 UI work?

 I am really impressed on how the pieces are starting to fit
 together. You guys are great!

 Pedro.




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Re: [Call For QA Volunteers] AOO UI IAccessible2 testing work

2013-01-27 Thread Steve Yin
Hi Diego Valle,

Welcome to join AOO IAccessible2 QA work.
We will prepare QA cases and assign some of them to you. And I hope we can
work together at the beginning.


On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 6:44 AM, Diego Valle Rosado 
diegogvalleros...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello

 My name is diego valle.At the moment I study the career IT in Quintana Roo,
 Mexico.

 I'm interested in AOO IAccessible2 testing work and I'd like to be a QA
 volunteer. Would be a great way to learn how to get started programming
 OpenOffice and to help bring the benefits of OpenOffice to my country and
 the region where I live.

 Regards

 Diego Valle


 2013/1/25 Steve Yin steve.yin@gmail.com

  Hi all,
 
  The UI part of the AOO IAccessible2 migration dev work will be done in a
  few days. We need QA volunteers to join the testing work and ensure the
  migration quality. This work will be started on the branch ia2.
  https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/branches/ia2
 
  If you are interested in AOO IAccessible2 testing work, please reply this
  mail. Thanks.
 
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  Steve Yin
 




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IAccessible2

2012-12-05 Thread Steve Yin
Hi,

A branch named ia2 was created for AOO IAccessible2 development.

The development plan can be found here:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+IAccessible2

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Re: IAccessible2 integration for AOO 4.0

2012-11-26 Thread Steve Yin
Thanks for both of your suggestions. The time table will be provided later.


On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.comwrote:

 On 11/26/12 6:59 AM, Steve Yin wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I propose to integrate IAccessible2 as an accessibility feature for AOO
  4.0. A wiki for the effort estimation can be found here:
 
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+IAccessible2
  Here is my question. Should I create a feature in AOO Bugzilla and a
 branch
  for development?
 

 Hi Steve,

 this is good news. I would suggest that you give some details what do
 you expect to implement when. The integration of IAccessible2 is a
 bigger task and I don't see it all integrated in the next 4 month or so.
 Creating a new feature task in bugzilla would be the normal procedure
 and a new branch is a must from my perspective for this huge piece of work.

 Good to see progress on this important integration.

 Juergen




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IAccessible2 integration for AOO 4.0

2012-11-25 Thread Steve Yin
Hi,

I propose to integrate IAccessible2 as an accessibility feature for AOO
4.0. A wiki for the effort estimation can be found here:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+IAccessible2
Here is my question. Should I create a feature in AOO Bugzilla and a branch
for development?

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